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Anonymous Tue 23 Mar 2021 22:56:09 No.1835172 View View Reply Original Report

Have you ever considered becoming a vtuber, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Mar 2021 23:42:09 No.1836239 Report

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>>1835172
If I can capture my face on my smartphone, maybe I could. But as for what, I'm not sure. Maybe chatting streams or 20 questions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Mar 2021 23:43:31 No.1836267 Report

Quoted By: >>1851347

>>1835172
Yes but I'm doing everything myself so it's going to be a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Mar 2021 23:48:02 No.1836362 Report

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>>1835172
No I already have a career but I’ve humored it as a hypothetical situation but nothing more then a simple thought expert for entertainment

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Mar 2021 23:48:56 No.1836379 Report

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>>1835172
I am not, not can I pass as, female.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Mar 2021 23:50:35 No.1836407 Report

Quoted By: >>1845523 >>1887435

why, so i can reinforce how unentertaining I am even with a fancy avatar?
only females get viewers and sometimes not even that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:31:42 No.1845523 Report

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>>1836407
I mean an entertaining or talented Male would still have to work hard, for sure. If you're not either of those things, chances are slim to none for sure. I've considered it, sure. Had original ideas, but i feel like I'd be wasting my fucking time, and only disappoint myself with how cringe and awful I'd be at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:35:53 No.1845642 Report

Quoted By: >>1845734

fuck it bro. i'm gonna do it. i'm gonna just lay into how weird I am and look cute at the same time I guess heh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:38:23 No.1845711 Report

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i have considered making a v-tuber on Live2D but never becoming one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:39:31 No.1845734 Report

Quoted By: >>1845859

>>1845642
I mean don't get me wrong, I still might try it, but I've been very slow at getting everything set up, I'm not an artist, nor do i know any that can help with backgrounds etc. So that would be all generic. Getting all the streamlabs stuff set up, proper tools, all very important. Most of it I have. I kind of just don't want to be a cringe ass loser streamer (I don't think anything is going to stop that though)

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Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:40:37 No.1845763 Report

Quoted By: >>1845785

Instead of enjoying my oshi(s) like a normal person I daydream delusions where I am also a vtuber from the same company and so it goes. The live2d is made by Aya Shobon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:41:28 No.1845785 Report

Quoted By: >>1845920

>>1845763
that's actually depressing anon, its depressing because i daydream about being a cool kid too... Shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:42:53 No.1845829 Report

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I cant entertain people

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:43:54 No.1845859 Report

Quoted By: >>1846081

>>1845734
thats fine. if you really really watch vtubers you'll see they're all cringe. at least all the EN ones are. Horny, lonely, cringey, idiots. but they're still loved as long as they aren't actual unironically shit people irl. that's what im trying to bank on anyways! I don't mind being a babiniku cause i've been wanting to do this since 2018 and im tired of it burning a hole in my gut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:44:10 No.1845865 Report

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>>1835172
I'm looking at getting Art/model Commissioned but I want to learn to Rig it myself. The look i'm going for is tan adult librarian, maybe something vaguely magic related.

Vtuber Focus: Lore, and just ramble chatting. I like to randomly deep dive into various lore pits, be it LoL, Warhammer, Runescape, or anything else really.

Main Reason I haven't done it yet, I'm concerned my IRL job would pretty much ensure I never get to stream. Seeing as I have to vanish from the internet for up to 5 months at a time every so often.

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Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:46:43 No.1845920 Report

Quoted By: >>1846130

>>1845785
anon... I just wish I could just watch one stream, laugh and have fun. I do... but half my brain is busy constructing an alternative reality with strong internal logic. Back in june it was way worse, I couldn't even sleep, being half-awake with my brain overclocking. Thankfully it has gotten very mild, just like my interest for vtubers

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Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:51:12 No.1846040 Report

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I have Autism so I already have my homegrown mask and puppeteer it to survive in society. I think I'd be qualified for it but I don't have the time for jokes and ventures, I'm 22, collecting damage from negative experiences for 6+ years now and time is running out to become financially independent before I collect enough damage to devolve into a stuck hikineet.

If I were to make an avatar it'd probably be something Folk Metal themed, like some slavic Cossacks 3 looking motherfucker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:52:42 No.1846081 Report

Quoted By: >>1846944

>>1845859
I mean yeah, but I'm also a dude. The cringe weirdo girls do just fine. I've got a couple ideas to make it work though. Big brain am winning again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:54:30 No.1846130 Report

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>>1845920
I mean I dunno about you, but i think I just want some damned friends hahaha. We sad people baby

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 04:56:30 No.1846185 Report

Quoted By: >>1846309

>>1835172
Yes, but my computer is too shitty for it.
And once my computer is upgraded, I would need to get internet that doesn't blow dick, so RIP the dream until I move out (ETA a year MAX).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:01:28 No.1846309 Report

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>>1846185
Yeah, Im about to upgrade to 1Gig internet service for faster VPN speeds (I'd suggest you get use to using one if you're going to be streaming). As far as the other stuff, i think I'm set.... just a lot of technical shit to work out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:03:46 No.1846368 Report

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>>1835172
I will be one soon anon. As soon as I can quit my job of working on certifying all of the CoV vaccines. May the Vtuber boom never end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:04:12 No.1846380 Report

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>/auds/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:06:55 No.1846451 Report

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>>1835172
Yeah but I don't have
-money
-time
-charisma or anything that would make me interesting to watch
so tough luck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:09:01 No.1846501 Report

Quoted By: >>1846654

>>1835172
yes, few months ago. i even prepared a decent model and setup. but then i realized i don't have a good personality, and all i do is just playing games or drawing silently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:14:05 No.1846654 Report

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>>1846501
You ever watch Froot? She's really quiet and stuff, but she does fine. If you can draw, that is another plus as well. Don't defeat yourself before you even start. Sometimes it takes a while to really find your voice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:17:23 No.1846748 Report

Quoted By: >>1846829

>>1835172
Fuck no. I have a well-paying day job I like. I'm here to watch anime girl shenanigans. Not to be one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:21:07 No.1846829 Report

Quoted By: >>1846848 >>1846922 >>1847089

>>1846748
>not wanting to be an anime boy
>not wanting fujos drooling over you 24/7
>not wanting simpbux
I don't care how much your day job pays, imagine being able to easily monetize your downtime (if you play vidya) and not wanting to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:21:44 No.1846848 Report

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>>1846829
outside of japan, fujos and simpettes don't exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:24:35 No.1846922 Report

Quoted By: >>1851388

>>1846829
I mean it can be a lot of work, and the market is pretty flooded. You have to stand out. No one simps for dudes, well gay dudes might, but i dont think there's a huge market for that, unless you're like Twink lord supreme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:25:26 No.1846944 Report

Quoted By: >>1847049

>>1846081
theres quite a few cute femboy avatars and boys in general but I understand the apprehension. i'm gonna do it anyways cause fuck it. I only get to live once and like I said since the end of 2017 i've tried to suppress this desire. im tired of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:29:02 No.1847049 Report

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>>1846944
Yeah... i got a different idea for it though. Maybe we'll see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:30:43 No.1847089 Report

Quoted By: >>1847169

>>1846829
The most popular males in the English market were all famous before they began vtubing and they don’t even make much money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:32:38 No.1847139 Report

Quoted By: >>1847218 >>1847981

I already am a Vtuber

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:33:29 No.1847169 Report

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>>1847089
That's very true. That's why you have to be creative, or shit ain't gonna fly. Also, if your main goal is making money, you're going to be disappointed really fast. Women get simps by being funny and relatable, it's not rocket science obviously, but even some of them fail if they aren't good at it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:35:08 No.1847218 Report

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>>1847139
Look, were in here trying to talk about how timid and cringey we are Sir or Madam. You go be successful somewhere else! hahah im just fucking around, good for you. Hope everything is going well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:38:59 No.1847333 Report

Quoted By: >>1847428

I can't speak for anyone other than myself but yea if you aren't like willing to spend money for this hobby I have serious doubts you'll have the drive to last if you don't get the immediate success which you most likely won't. cause very talented singers and streamers can go months or years with little uptick in viewer retention. I don't think theres much of a guarantee of success if you aren't already successful before you even start.

I'm probably gonna spend like near 2.5k just to barely get a 2d avatar and lots of gear!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:42:51 No.1847425 Report

Quoted By: >>1847472

I have but I don’t think I’m up for the work, I don’t think I’m cut out to be an entertainer. I’ve always found recording videos hard, but I am interested in the concept of replacing our bodies with avatars. It’s the same idea as vrchat in a way. I think humans don’t look overly good and our art both 2d and 3d tends to look better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:42:56 No.1847428 Report

Quoted By: >>1847505

>>1847333
Damn brohime, that's a lot to spend. I already have most of the gear i need just from being a gaymer for so many years, and the other stuff I've picked up over time. I need a more detailed 2D avatar, but im fine with just using a shitty free one until later in to it. For what im planning, It'll work fine anyway. Price tags on 2dmodels don't like too bad anyway for basic shit, so we'll see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:44:30 No.1847472 Report

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>>1847425
I've done webcam streaming, but I always tell myself "Ain't no one wanna look at yo ugly ass face!" hahah so yeah, 2d model it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:45:44 No.1847505 Report

Quoted By: >>1847688

>>1847428
yea but for me its more of a passion thing. money doesn't matter. if I make it or not it don't matter. even if I end up having to pngtube it don't matter. If anything my friends can say they have a vtuber as a personal friend! i'm actually super excited to start soon. this is like a rare thing for me to feel so intensely fixated on something but I think come what may i'll be satisfied!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:51:09 No.1847688 Report

Quoted By: >>1847802

>>1847505
I mean thats great dude, just stay positive about it, and put the work in. I hope it works out for you. I don't have friends to say they're friends with a vtuber hahaha (im exaggerating, but i keep a very small circle)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:54:53 No.1847797 Report

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>>1835172
Maybe when I'm a lot older. If the medium is still alive when I hit 50-60, I'll probably do it for kicks. With a loli model of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:54:58 No.1847802 Report

Quoted By: >>1847867

>>1847688
thanks. I hope for you to find fulfillment and joy in however you wish to tackle it! secretly I hope I can be marginally successful cause I wanna be friends with lots of the cute boy and girl vtubers.

also its a little selfish but my end goal would just be like to have my character on a mug, a shirt, a towel, or a hoodie and someone actually buys it even just one thing!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:56:02 No.1847836 Report

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Yes. I thought about a simracing/racing game character, but realized dudes don't get the same bonuses from being a vtuber as women do

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:57:08 No.1847867 Report

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>>1847802
I mean of course dude, that shit is normal, and yeah, my main goal would be making friends, and meeting cool people. Obviously I'm tempering all expectation, but hey, who knows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 05:58:17 No.1847901 Report

Quoted By: >>1847963

I'm not entertaining and I have an annoying (male) voice. My Vtuber career is over before it started

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:00:11 No.1847963 Report

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>>1847901
I feel the same way a lot of the time dude, you *can* work on that. I've seen a ton of youtubers and shit that go back and look at their early videos and talk shit about how whiny and awful they sound. Actors too, it just takes time to find your voice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:01:01 No.1847981 Report

Quoted By: >>1848284

>>1847139
Hi Risu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:02:23 No.1848023 Report

Quoted By: >>1848095

I was thinking about it but not sure what my character would be. Any ideas of what I should draw as my vtuber avatar? Doesn't matter how stupid it is because it would be a joke character anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:04:25 No.1848095 Report

Quoted By: >>1848264

>>1848023
how good is your voice acting? pick a character from genshin impact and just change the colors a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:04:25 No.1848097 Report

Quoted By: >>1848218 >>1848230

i've been thinking. do we even have a need for a debut stream specifically? can't we just make like a ton of small vids and upload them to get our personalities out and just stream and not make a big deal about the first time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:08:24 No.1848218 Report

Quoted By: >>1848351

>>1848097
the idea of a "debut" is goofy. Don't even worry about that shit. Get everything together, create a schedule, post it, stick to it, and be consistent. That's it. Just get everything ready, and start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:09:00 No.1848230 Report

Quoted By: >>1848351

>>1848097
Having an intro video after having a few normal videos is a good idea, multiple channels make intro vids after they've already settled in

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:10:40 No.1848264 Report

Quoted By: >>1848323

>>1848095
>how good is your voice acting?
non existent. I'm not sure if I want my character to be a twink though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:11:21 No.1848284 Report

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>>1847981
I see a lot of people do this, and i wonder to myself how they know, then i get sort of creeped out, and im like, never mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:12:39 No.1848323 Report

Quoted By: >>1848484 >>1849064

>>1848264
if you vtube, your character design (might) be a hook, but your charisma and voice is what will carry. case in point: Artemis of the Blue. amazing model, comfy voice, but shit content, of the people who watch, most relegate her to background noise.

you can work on both voice and charisma, the only way is to put in the reps though and start streaming, even if you're just gonna use a placeholder png doodle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:13:30 No.1848351 Report

Quoted By: >>1848421

>>1848230
>>1848218
yea yea glad im seeing some similar opinions on the matter. I kinda feel like debuts are really for corp stuff or old fashioned like the 10 minute edited down gameplay vids of '17 and '18

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:16:08 No.1848421 Report

Quoted By: >>1848466

>>1848351
you have to remember that idol-style vtubers are in the minority and unless you're coming into the scene as part of a major company, you're just a regular ol streamer that happens to have a virtual avatar. No need to adopt the agency stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:18:41 No.1848466 Report

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>>1848421
yea it seems like too much of a pain in the ass to set up a character for your debut you're just gonna break in a week. anyways its good to just hear I guess. now its just figuring out how to get people to come see in the first place now. hmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:19:24 No.1848484 Report

Quoted By: >>1848551 >>1848585 >>1850353

>>1848323
I was thinking streaming could maybe help with getting over social anxiety.
I just need a simple and quick character idea that I can doodle in 10 minutes. I can't think of any good ideas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:19:46 No.1848488 Report

Quoted By: >>1848564 >>1848801

Im gonna try it. Ill be a guy with a very obviously female avatar for the hell of it. A buddy of mine is rigging something in Live2d for me and we've been talking back and forth in regards to design stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:22:58 No.1848551 Report

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>>1848484
Off the top of my head, a ghost the possess a human body to stream, that was an old idea of mine, and it leaves a lot of wiggle room for the avatar. Just add some anime ass ghost flames, red glowing eyes etc. Meh. You can even say the "ghost" is female, possessing a male body to speak, and have a sexy lady ghost for the mascot. There, Big brain advice for free, just this once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:23:51 No.1848564 Report

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>>1848488
well yea dude theres plenty of babiniku vtubers. a lot of them play up the fact. just have fun and the viewers will too. fuck look at sean vr.

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Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:24:48 No.1848585 Report

Quoted By: >>1848801

don't fucking debut. just start streaming. clip some highlights and put out a trailer video that's like 2 minutes long that's edited well to give new viewers a taste of what you do.

>>1848484
- food themed, pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:37:04 No.1848801 Report

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>>1848488
>>1848585
thanks for the ideas anons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 06:54:34 No.1849064 Report

Quoted By: >>1849153

>>1848323
well, i might be fucked on some fronts there, but i think that's just terrible self confidence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 07:02:59 No.1849153 Report

Quoted By: >>1849300

>>1849064
both charisma and voice can be trained
for charisma, improv classes (whenever it's safe to do so in your area)

for voice, voice coaches are top tier, but if all you want to do is vtube, you can get by with simple enunciation practice (pencil between teeth) and just lots of practice. if you're trying for a voice, get (1) a sample of the voice you want to emulate (VA from a game, actor from a movie, host from a radio show, etc.), and (2) a recording app on your phone. practice saying a line your target says over and over again, experiment, find out how your vocal muscles work, and just keep doing it. 10 minute exercises like 5-6 times throughout the day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 07:12:54 No.1849300 Report

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>>1849153
That actually is top tier advice, it's all about how much drive you have in the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 07:26:49 No.1849476 Report

Quoted By: >>1849490 >>1849685

A friend said I may want to look into it b/c i'm good with voices and characters from DND. The big issue for me is that Vtubers are supposed to make people happy and laugh.

While i'm sure i could stay in character at all times I'm too depressed and full of hate. I know that it would bleed through and end up making people sad.

Being a Vtuber is about building an emotional connection with people. last thing i'd want is to make that toxic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 07:27:52 No.1849490 Report

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>>1849476
Oh also, i'm horribly untalented when it comes to singing/drawing/learning languages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 07:29:12 No.1849509 Report

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I'm honestly thinking about it. I'll have to commission a model but I think that I could easily cover my weaknesses by playing a character. I have a bit of a stutter but if I play a nervous character people might find it endearing. I've been told by several people that I have a good voice and I have no idea what they hear in it but I'll take the compliment.
Though I do have a problem with needing interaction to be compelling. So building up from a small audience might be extremly difficult because I have a hard time playing off myself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 07:43:53 No.1849685 Report

Quoted By: >>1849734

>>1849476
>Being a Vtuber is about building an emotional connection with people
it's not, and whoever told you this is a fucking moron. please tell them to never talk about something that they have zero knowledge of, ever again.

vtubers are literally nothing more than streamers. that's it. it's not a streamer's job to "build an emotional connection with people", that's a therapist. a streamer is an entertainer and they entertain. that's it. anything else is fucking dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 07:47:12 No.1849734 Report

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>>1849685
Damn homie, i mean you're right, but god damn. Reel it back in, you'd think we were on channel 4 or something... wait...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 08:21:37 No.1850165 Report

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>>1835172
I have, and to a degree still am.
Male debuff, low self esteem, fear of failure and knowing the market's already saturated to shit holds me back.

Plus it still kinda stings that Ichikara wouldn't even look at my audition video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 08:43:03 No.1850353 Report

Quoted By: >>1850508

>>1848484

this is false.
am vtuber with substantial viewerbase.

talking to viewers and talking one on one with someone is a very different experience. when you're talking to your viewers, you know for sure that they're there to watch you. outside of that bubble, you're thrown into the wild again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 08:48:47 No.1850412 Report

Quoted By: >>1850427

>>1835172
I'm not a f*male with a cute voice so even if I wanted to I can't.
But if I was I'd probably have one of the most interesting streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 08:50:26 No.1850427 Report

Quoted By: >>1850472

>>1850412
statistically, men perform extremely better compared to females
don't be a fucking incel whining about biology when it literally actually helps you more

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 08:55:21 No.1850471 Report

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I'm working on it. Just need to hear back from my artist.
A bunch of us actually got together and made some discords for aspiring chuubas from /vt/
One for girls: https://discord.gg/xvBEHs7Hqb
And one for guys: https://discord.gg/bbR4RDFZfv

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 08:55:25 No.1850472 Report

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>>1850427
this though, fucking this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 08:58:32 No.1850508 Report

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>>1850353
Unfortunately, can't really count talking in chat and having people watch you as a social interaction hehe, but, i guess it could help to some degree. Doesn't seem to though. A lot of them still talk about being anxious as fuck, even though they've done it for a year or more.

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Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:02:39 No.1850543 Report

Quoted By: >>1850564 >>1850568

>>1835172
The problem is that there are no face tracking software for PC. Everything requires a fucking iphone for face tracking and I hate iphones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:04:56 No.1850561 Report

Quoted By: >>1850579 >>1850583 >>1850693

Where does one even commission art for male characters? A quick google search gives me really shitty artists on etsy and fiver. I thought about requesting artists through pixiv, but the pixiv request feature isn't really made for this use case, the artwork is owned by the artist, and I don't even follow artists who draw men. I was thinking about checking through twitter but I get the same problem of all the artists either drawing girls, or they don't look like they take commissions. I guess the issue of discovery cuts both ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:05:28 No.1850564 Report

Quoted By: >>1850635

>>1850543
???
webcams?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:05:37 No.1850568 Report

Quoted By: >>1850591 >>1850635

>>1850543
Actually, Vtube Studio now only needs a webcam; it used to require an iPhone but not anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:06:30 No.1850579 Report

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>>1850561
look at male vtubers and see if they credit their artist in their bios

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:06:40 No.1850583 Report

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>>1850561
Iron Vertex, if you're looking for top quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:07:36 No.1850591 Report

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>>1850568
Yeah, but unless you have a REALLY good webcam, it's gonna track like trash, and by the time you pay that much for a webcam, you might as well have bought a fucking iphone haha. Newer Iphones actually have remarkably good facial recognition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:10:11 No.1850614 Report

Quoted By: >>1850637

>>1835172
No, why do i have to entertain you autist?
Fuck you all

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:11:36 No.1850635 Report

Quoted By: >>1850670 >>1850709

>>1850564
>>1850568
The tracking in vtube studio is dogshit without an iphone since it uses Face ID for the face tracking. Seriously the quality is night and day compared to android or webcam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:11:54 No.1850637 Report

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>>1850614
channel 4 at its finest ladies and gentlemen

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:13:40 No.1850657 Report

Quoted By: >>1850672

>>1835172
Yeah actually. I wanted to try it just so there would be an indie alternative to toilet humour coomer bait. Also I'm a guy so there's that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:14:58 No.1850670 Report

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>>1850635
Use the old facerig since it has a live2D plugin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:15:05 No.1850672 Report

Quoted By: >>1850715

>>1850657
heheh, my idea is actually a subversive play on that shit. I've had tons of ideas for it, if i can work up the balls to do it, i think it could be god damned hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:16:47 No.1850693 Report

Quoted By:

>>1850561
I really want to commission As109 or White Datura for a male character even though they specialize in lolicon. I just really like their art style and they could pull off a cool design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:18:08 No.1850709 Report

Quoted By: >>1850725

>>1850635
I started with dogshit webcam tracking until I could afford an iphone through twitch payouts, you don't need q u a l i t y at the start, especially when you don't even know if you're going to do it for a long time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:18:08 No.1850710 Report

Quoted By:

>>1835172
I am a guy and I can't entertain people for long

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:18:40 No.1850715 Report

Quoted By:

>>1850672
WooHooLad is that you?

Too bad we're broke

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:18:49 No.1850717 Report

Quoted By: >>1850738

>>1835172
I have but because of my age i can only really try for something like aniki/chad type similar to Roberu or Belmont sadly i'm not a great conversationalist or have chad energy also ESL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:19:57 No.1850725 Report

Quoted By: >>1850753 >>1850871

>>1850709
I think a lot of people get to hung up on everything being perfect right at the start. Like the best model, the best tracking blah blah blah, yeah, you can afford to hold off for sure. Most vtubers who are successful would probably agree with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:21:17 No.1850738 Report

Quoted By:

>>1850717
Counterpoint no 1. Arurandeisu
Counterpoint no 2. You don't have to stream long
Counterpoint no 3. PLAY THAT ACCENT SHIT UP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:22:36 No.1850753 Report

Quoted By: >>1850775

>>1850725
Hell, Ironmouse started with a live2D workshop model

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:23:21 No.1850763 Report

Quoted By: >>1850870

>>1835172
I've thought about becoming a vtuber that does comedy in the style of those old Adult Swim shows like Space Ghost but live and playing off of the chat.

https://youtu.be/6L8maqTEaj4

I'm not sure how I'd pull it off as a one man job though. I guess I could try to do multiple characters and different voices but that would get exhausting really fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:23:57 No.1850775 Report

Quoted By: >>1850846

>>1850753
And Nyanners was doing actual cam stuff, then cheap live2d stuff too, i believe, and look at her now. People always hung up on shit like that, and then just talk themselves out of it, because they can't start at the top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:30:12 No.1850846 Report

Quoted By: >>1850872

>>1850775
Though to be fair, a proper model on fucking fiverr is like a 100 bucks just the base

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:31:49 No.1850866 Report

Quoted By:

>>1835172
Im actually planning to be a vtuber just so I have people to talk to, maybe that will help with my autismo that is Aqua level

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:32:15 No.1850870 Report

Quoted By:

>>1850763
I actually knew a guy who streams with a cartoon avatar and he uses Adobe Character Animator

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIeLvOu3DgwAvy8AbwS0Qdw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:32:14 No.1850871 Report

Quoted By: >>1850881 >>1850893

>>1850725
I've seen way too many debuts where the new vtuber has a top of the line model or equipment only to scuff it all because they didn't have any prior streaming experience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:32:49 No.1850872 Report

Quoted By:

>>1850846
Yeah, it's really not that much, it just won't be fantastic at first, but even the bigger streamers don't upgrade for a long time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:33:33 No.1850879 Report

Quoted By:

>>1835172
I'm already learning an instrument, I'm taking singing lessons, I know as a male I'm going to have to put in twice the work for half the reward but I'm still going to try and I don't want to half ass it and only be some random dude that can only play video games and barely hold a conversation with strangers on the internet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:33:46 No.1850881 Report

Quoted By:

>>1850871
Or nobody coming in because they're just plain boring or don't have consistency.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:34:21 No.1850893 Report

Quoted By: >>1851093

>>1850871
That's kind of really sad, but doesn't discount them completely unless they give up. Like, you're never gonna get experience without fucking it up first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:49:45 No.1851082 Report

Quoted By:

If I became a vtuber I'd probably make it about learning languages and maths, having comfy discussions about books and shit, playing games sometimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:50:42 No.1851093 Report

Quoted By: >>1851148

>>1850893
It's good if they keep going but some easily lose confidence and quit or rebrand in only just a few months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:57:19 No.1851148 Report

Quoted By:

>>1851093
Never. I'll just keep slamming my dick in the proverbial kitchen drawer until somebody loves me. (actually if i literally did, that, someone would probably want to watch.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 09:58:54 No.1851163 Report

Quoted By: >>1851219 >>1851240

Would you stream on youtube or twitch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:04:06 No.1851219 Report

Quoted By: >>1851292

>>1851163
are you asking someone specifically, or for advice? My two cents is stream on twitch, clips, memes, and archives on youtube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:06:23 No.1851240 Report

Quoted By: >>1851273

>>1851163
There's literally no reason not to simulcast. Hell stream on Dlive too if you can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:10:17 No.1851273 Report

Quoted By:

>>1851240
I feel like there's probably a reason people don't do that. Wouldn't that eat up your fucking bandwidth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:11:52 No.1851292 Report

Quoted By: >>1851367

>>1851219
Just intrested in what the future chuubas of /vt/ preferences are. That does sound like the most efficient way, since I'm guessing it's easier to be noticed on twitch if you're new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:16:38 No.1851347 Report

Quoted By:

>>1836267
Same with this guy but kinda already stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:18:05 No.1851367 Report

Quoted By:

>>1851292
Eh, i learn from watching what works. The biggest obstacle is art, and editing. Slick editing makes a huge difference for clips or youtube videos in general, and starting out, you definitely don't want to be paying someone to do that shit. So you at least need some rudimentary editing knowledge. As far as art, backgrounds, channel art etc. I'm still out on that one, not sure what you'd do there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:20:02 No.1851388 Report

Quoted By: >>1851424

>>1846922
theres a VERY small twitch streamer I follow, peaks about 30 views, and still has about a hundred subs, I got gifted a sub. If that's not simpery, I don't know what is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:23:16 No.1851424 Report

Quoted By: >>1851443

>>1851388
I mean I'm happy to be proven wrong, but that is a little odd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:24:53 No.1851443 Report

Quoted By: >>1851463

>>1851424
Yeah, it's anecdotal evidence, but I think some people are just pathological paypigs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:26:41 No.1851463 Report

Quoted By:

>>1851443
Like "Oh god Daddy, take this hot load of gifted subs mmmmmmm" I'm sorry...
>I'm not sorry.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:31:29 No.1851522 Report

Quoted By: >>1851564 >>1851801 >>1852701 >>1852722

>>1835172
Made a cute model, made a background and intro an all that, then remembered I'm a 22 year old man.
Tried hitting it off with the Twitter crowd but after a few months of posting and engaging, still had zero followers. Got annoyed at those people who get affiliated before they even stream, let alone reveal their model, so I quit Twitter. Planning on uploading through YouTube since Twitch isn't so hot right now.
Pic related is my model, feel free to shout horrible words at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:36:07 No.1851564 Report

Quoted By: >>1851587

>>1851522
not bad looking for a vroid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:38:09 No.1851587 Report

Quoted By:

>>1851564
Thanks anon, I know the facial features are painfully similar to other vroids but i've grown so used to seeing it this way that, if I change it now, it would look odd to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 10:40:50 No.1851613 Report

Quoted By:

I’ve thought about it, I live alone, and have a decent amount of money saved up that I can use for equipment, but I have the personality of a sock, and don’t know how to socialize properly. I would even be happy with like, 1k subs and 30 people watching my stream because it would be the most friends I’ve ever had

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 11:01:33 No.1851801 Report

Quoted By: >>1852650 >>1857726

>>1851522
Listen, it's more about charisma than anything else.
Also, the market is inflated already and it's exponentially harder for anyone to get a following from zero. You have to become a virus. And fot the virus to survive it has to be ahead of the game, not limping behind. You're not going to magically get followers if you don't generate content, which doesn't really have to be unique, it has to have your soul attached to it.
Englando not native. Gomennasai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 11:24:39 No.1852008 Report

Quoted By:

>>1835172
No. I'm a boring old man and have a social anxiety.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 11:27:48 No.1852034 Report

Quoted By: >>1865685

>>1835172
Yes but when I found out that being a mute Vtuber wouldn't work I gave up.
Even if I did the smart thing and got a voice changer my speech patterns would still be so awkward to listen to

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 11:36:42 No.1852121 Report

Quoted By: >>1857355

>>1835172
I am one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 12:24:49 No.1852650 Report

Quoted By: >>1857726

>>1851801
I mean treat it like any other type of streamer, and realize, the market has been inflated long before vtubers were a thing. You've always had to be unique and consistent to survive. If you can't, then you won't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 12:29:10 No.1852701 Report

Quoted By: >>1857726

>>1851522
also, zero followers is insane dude, really? I streamed patchy on and off for fun for like 2 months tops? Not even as a vtuber, just my ugly ass on webcam and I have 12 followers on my twitch lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 12:30:38 No.1852722 Report

Quoted By: >>1852757 >>1857726

>>1851522
If you really wanna get followers, network on Discords rather than just Twitter
Some Vtuber fan Discords will help you like... connect with other Vtubers and have Vtuber help channels

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 12:33:59 No.1852757 Report

Quoted By: >>1857726

>>1852722
That, and make youtube clips. You can get a ton of clips out of like one good 3-4 hours stream (hopefully, if not, work on that...), and advertise your youtube, add links to twitch on it as well. You gotta follow one big ass circle jerk, and keep selling yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 13:55:37 No.1853896 Report

Quoted By:

I would love to try it even despite the monetary cost but I have a really deep voice and not in a sexy way
maybe in some years when voice changer technology lets me pretend to be a cute girl convincingly or at least a cute femboy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 15:56:29 No.1856880 Report

Quoted By:

I've thought about it, but due to the pandemic I'm at home and... my mum is strangely needy and has no respect for privacy. I can be on a call with friends and she just walks in and starts talking to me or expects me to jump up and do something immediately. I really could not deal with that bullshit on-stream, it'd be a fucking disaster. I'm pretty fortunate though, my dad bought me a place and we're currently renovating it, but I don't want to leave my mum alone when she can't see anyone.

I've got a friend in a similar situation who's waiting to move into their own house.

Anyway, me and 3-4 of my friends. Mixed sex bunch of people are considering forming a unit and I know a few streamers who will want to join too, one's a pngtuber already. Hopefully when the stars align later this year we'll be A-Go

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 16:11:49 No.1857204 Report

Quoted By:

I and my friends did we were going to be a cow vtuber but we couldn't find a women to work for free for us

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 16:19:47 No.1857355 Report

Quoted By: >>1865908

>>1852121
Get the FUCK out of here Kiara, it's not good for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 16:27:32 No.1857513 Report

Quoted By:

>>1835172
way too much work, especially if you go corporate

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 16:37:20 No.1857726 Report

Quoted By:

Sorry for the late replies, I was shleeping

>>1851801
>>1852650
For sure. I'm a long long LONG time lurker so even writing "hi" in a streamers chat shivers me bones. Twitter showed me that you really gotta project yourself and weed your way into groups and shit. I'm still not a fan of that type of system but it's not 2009 anymore, parasitic behavior is honestly the only way to go, I completely agree.

>>1852701
Obtained zero followers and actually zero viewers too. Albeit, those streams weren't anything special but still... Shit hurts when you stream for 2-5 hours, glance at the viewer count and it's a fat 0.

>>1852722
Oh shit!! Can't believe Discord never crossed my mind, that's a pretty good idea. Would be nice to actually make some vtuber friends while I'm at it.

>>1852757
Actually, for now, I'm taking a wildly different approach to YouTube clips; blending reviews with Vtubing. Think if Scott The Woz had an avatar instead. Don't wanna jerk myself off but I've never seen anyone else do it before and the ones that have avatars like Gooseboose are 2D slideshow esque, not true Vtubing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 16:38:07 No.1857740 Report

Quoted By: >>1859136

>>1835172
are there any vtubers who use female models but just a normal male voice?
could that be considered gap moe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 17:24:41 No.1858880 Report

Quoted By:

>>1835172
I did, but then I remembered that my personality is somewhere between boring and off-puting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 17:38:14 No.1859136 Report

Quoted By:

>>1857740
Loads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 18:04:16 No.1859663 Report

Quoted By:

Is there a way to voice chat with strangers online, i'm out with current society loop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 22:48:05 No.1865685 Report

Quoted By:

>>1852034
>Mute vtuber wouldn't work
>He doesn't know about Pink Gura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah5KuyyGFe0

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 22:56:05 No.1865867 Report

Quoted By: >>1866027 >>1866065

part of the appeal of becoming a chuber is interacting with people behind a mask but to obtain the mask you must interact with people to acquire the art and rigging
its not very useless autistic neet friendly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 22:58:01 No.1865908 Report

Quoted By: >>1866602

>>1857355
alright, I wanna know how people are doing this hahah, or are you just guessing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 23:02:34 No.1866027 Report

Quoted By:

>>1865867
The mask you wear serves its purpose well, but be careful not to lose yourself in it

haha just made me think of that. Watched a vtuber play that, and she got a little shocked for a second, like, "is this... targeted"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 23:04:06 No.1866065 Report

Quoted By: >>1866225

>>1865867
>you must interact with people to acquire the art and rigging
most artists and riggers are neets too, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 23:09:54 No.1866225 Report

Quoted By: >>1866296

>>1866065
I mean interact is a strong word. Messaging people over the internet isn't much of an interaction. That's why it works for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 23:12:31 No.1866296 Report

Quoted By:

>>1866225
it's actually pretty chill sending a commission sheet to an artist, maybe having 3 chat comments on twitter back and forth, and a month later, your comission is done. if you use Skeb, it's even simpler since you send a single message and never actually hear from the artist until they accept your work and give you the final product.

not as scary as a neet might think, just the novelty is the uncomfortable part. i'd recommend it for anyone who is curious about actually getting a character done for vtubing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 23:24:51 No.1866602 Report

Quoted By: >>1866687

>>1865908
It's a common haha hilarious classic epic 4chan(nel) culture thing to reply to a post as if they knew the person who wrote it was a public figure. A common example of this sort of thing is people replying to "andrew hussie" in undertale threads. That being said, kiara definitely sees some of these threads.
Tl;Dr: lurk moar

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 23:27:59 No.1866687 Report

Quoted By: >>1866714

>>1866602
so it's what i was figuring, they're just guessing and being weird. I honestly haven't been on 4chan since uhhhh 2012? God damn, its been that long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 23:29:13 No.1866714 Report

Quoted By: >>1866752

>>1866687
And you're back for /vt/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 23:30:59 No.1866752 Report

Quoted By: >>1867009

>>1866714
Don't you judge me anon! Don't you... *sobs in rage* hahah yeah dude, what the fuck? I use to spend so much time on this fucking site, now im old, and my brain don't work so good sonny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Mar 2021 23:41:31 No.1867009 Report

Quoted By: >>1867499

>>1866752
You didn't witness the fall, then.
neither did I, but it gets mentioned a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Mar 2021 00:04:13 No.1867499 Report

Quoted By: >>1868675 >>1878076

>>1867009
I high tailed it the fuck out for a lot of reasons, my sanity was one of them. Now I'm older, and I've learned to just fucking chill. This is an outlet for a lot of angry young men, let em'. They gonna do what they gonna do, don't let that fucking break your stride homie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Mar 2021 00:53:31 No.1868675 Report

Quoted By:

>>1867499
Moshi-moshi, basado departmento desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Mar 2021 06:23:38 No.1877529 Report

Quoted By:

>>1835172
God, I hate the cat so fucking much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Mar 2021 06:28:44 No.1877596 Report

Quoted By: >>1882124

what do you think are the best games to stream for vtubers just starting out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Mar 2021 07:02:01 No.1878076 Report

Quoted By:

>>1867499
Hold the front door is this actually Calli?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Mar 2021 07:17:06 No.1878267 Report

Quoted By: >>1882124

Where are you supposed to shill yourself when you're starting out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Mar 2021 12:40:17 No.1882124 Report

Quoted By:

>>1877596
>>1878267
go ask in /auds/ or /wvt/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Mar 2021 14:07:37 No.1883596 Report

Quoted By:

>>1835172
i was considering just making an avatar in ms paint like kano did and going for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Mar 2021 14:15:44 No.1883752 Report

Quoted By:

I tried to stream a MOBA game for 4 hours, my eyes were hurt, my throat was sore, my brain started rotting and I taked like I'm on drug. I think before waste money on one expensive model, you should try to stream without one first to see your limit and start building endurance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Mar 2021 14:31:59 No.1883981 Report

Quoted By:

I’ve been vtubing since november and i gotta say it’s one of the most rewarding pursuits i’ve ever had. i’m poor as hell so i did all my own art and rigging tho, i think the barrier for entrance i’d probably a lot steeper if youre not an artist.

I’m still a little baby viewership wise but im doing my best to grow! i stream, like uhhhh, 8 times a week for 2 hour bursts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Mar 2021 17:34:16 No.1887435 Report

Quoted By:

>>1836407
Just don't be humanoid at all, works for Debidebi

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Mar 2021 22:26:25 No.1894288 Report

Quoted By:

I already am

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