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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:34:32 No.21832546 View View Reply Original Report

Why did they flop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:35:47 No.21832615 Report

Quoted By: >>21847626 >>21850565 >>21851804

Mika's doing well for herself, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:36:21 No.21832651 Report

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>>21832546
Not enough marketing didn't even know they existed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:36:23 No.21832653 Report

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>>21832546
too many "livers" with too little marketing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:36:42 No.21832670 Report

Quoted By: >>21832765

>>21832546
look at those designs and compare them hololive's

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:38:22 No.21832765 Report

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>>21832670
A lot of their designs are really good. There's still shit that makes Sana look good there though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:49:19 No.21833369 Report

Quoted By: >>21834609

>Spam threads are back
>Check SEA time
>10 AM
Rangeban SEAnigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:50:02 No.21833403 Report

Quoted By: >>21833565 >>21833630

Who is the pink-haired Angra Mainyu to the left of Hana?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:51:54 No.21833493 Report

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>>21832546
Who?

oh >who?

Now you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:53:11 No.21833565 Report

Quoted By: >>21833699

>>21833403
that's one of the ID girls, i think her name is Derem or something.
and that's not even her hair

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:54:03 No.21833630 Report

Quoted By: >>21833699

>>21833403
you mean this pussy hunter Derem?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:54:33 No.21833663 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:55:12 No.21833699 Report

Quoted By: >>21833805 >>21834567

>>21833565
>>21833630
Is she still around and does she EOP-pander?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 03:57:09 No.21833805 Report

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>>21833699
i'm not sure? didn't watch that much of nijiID except for mika and bonni

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:07:24 No.21834339 Report

Quoted By: >>21834837 >>21835974

>>21832546
Is that korean fubuki

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:09:22 No.21834453 Report

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>>21832546
>siu in the image
>on in the image

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:11:08 No.21834567 Report

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>>21833699
Derem is still around, but she's really ESL. Her view numbers are pretty low though so if you chat at her she'll almost definitely see it.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMzVa7B8UEdrvUGsPmSgyjA

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:11:45 No.21834604 Report

Quoted By: >>21836079 >>21836238

>>21832546
The guy in the bottom right has the most pathetic voice i've ever heard from a vtuber. You can tell how he's a scrawny, malnourished ugly SEAcreature

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:11:47 No.21834609 Report

Quoted By: >>21835122

>>21833369
it's not like you'll drop the "it's SEA TIME" if it's on 10 PM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:12:20 No.21834637 Report

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>>21832546
Imperial Japan's annexation of korea and Indonesia, colorized

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:15:59 No.21834837 Report

Quoted By: >>21834949

>>21834339
Yes, Lee Siu shares a parent with Fubuki. She graduated last month, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:17:45 No.21834949 Report

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>>21834837
She's still streaming, just not as a part of nijisanji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:19:53 No.21835070 Report

Quoted By: >>21835271

Can someone explain to me why KR is suddenly hemorrhaging livers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:20:58 No.21835122 Report

Quoted By: >>21835586

>>21834609
No.
It's EVERYTIME.
The catalog is peaceful for hours upon hours, until these cookiecut spam threads start to pop up

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:23:44 No.21835271 Report

Quoted By: >>21835615

>>21835070
>suddenly
There have been more former KR livers than current KR livers for a long time. It's REALLY hard for them to get any views if they don't know japanese or english and they've had really atrociously bad management ever since the branch was formed.
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/NIJISANJI#NIJISANJI_KR

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:29:41 No.21835586 Report

Quoted By: >>21835898

>>21835122
>The catalog is peaceful for hours upon hours
chinks and kangaroos also share their timezone tho, and some of them even admit the act.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:30:12 No.21835615 Report

Quoted By: >>21835791

>>21835271
I'm aware that they've been struggling, but isn't five livers (or maybe more, I've been gone for a while and only recently checked back in) all announcing retirement within a three month period abnormal even for them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:31:35 No.21835680 Report

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>>21832765
>There's still shit that makes Sana look good there though.
like Sana because Sana looks good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:33:43 No.21835791 Report

Quoted By: >>21836380

>>21835615
maybe because they already had something better to do rather than being a 2views niji? and the merge was just the right moment to do that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:35:37 No.21835898 Report

Quoted By: >>21836024 >>21836101

>>21835586
Would still be funny to see how sane this place seems if we range banned SEA for a week

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:36:48 No.21835974 Report

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>>21834339
You mean dead Fubuki right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:37:42 No.21836024 Report

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>>21835898
they did range ban SEA from September through November last year, and nothing changed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:38:30 No.21836061 Report

Quoted By: >>21836101

>>21832546
who is the brunette next to the girl on the top right, her design is cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:38:56 No.21836079 Report

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>>21834604
Wow he's just like >me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:39:15 No.21836101 Report

Quoted By: >>21836172 >>21836185

>>21835898
Nothing would happen because VPNs exist.
>>21836061
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCClwIqTUn5LDpFucHyaAhHg She streams a lot on twitch also

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:39:31 No.21836116 Report

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>>21832546
Didn't we have a thread about this already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:40:40 No.21836172 Report

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>>21836101
ty

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:40:53 No.21836185 Report

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>>21836101
Fair point

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:41:55 No.21836238 Report

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>>21834604
kinda funny since he's the only male that reaches the 100k milestone in this group

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:44:47 No.21836380 Report

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>>21835791
That would actually make sense, since the last time they had this many consecutive losses was during the last merger. Thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:46:59 No.21836485 Report

Quoted By: >>21836772

>>21832546
Hololive had a large EOP/ESL following when they launched ID, Niji on the other hand...Layla has interesting streams about random things but that's not going to pull in big numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:48:20 No.21836543 Report

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>>21832546
ID:
- They don't want to get out from comfort zone (except: Mika and arguably Bonni)
- It's really hard to get into their fandom or circle
KR:
- Bad management
- Bad liver(it's not about talent but personality)
- Bad culture (bullying culture, that made them close their Maro)
All of Niji:
- Tazumi didn't have many good karma like Yagoo and debuting his liver in the wrong time, in ID & KR case, it's too early.
- Stupid decision where they keep debuting too many liver(didn't happen to ID)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:48:21 No.21836545 Report

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>>21832546
>Saturated Market
>Poor Exposure
>Debuff of being anything other than EN or JP
>Competition is more favored by the vast majority (for NijiID)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:48:52 No.21836569 Report

Quoted By: >>21836715 >>21836926

Vtubers in Korea just seems pretty fucked in general. I'm pretty sure the only vtuber group doing well are just straight up an idol group.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:52:07 No.21836715 Report

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>>21836569
but then korean gosling are not uncommon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:53:50 No.21836772 Report

Quoted By: >>21836966 >>21850963

>>21836485
Hana Macchia literally was one of THE English Vtubers when no EN was around, they just didn't take advantage of it properly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:53:55 No.21836774 Report

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>>21832546
I wanna fuck hana macchia so bad, i wanna do a mating press on her while her father watches a video of the sexual encounter

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:57:30 No.21836926 Report

Quoted By: >>21837099 >>21837131 >>21848562

>>21836569
>Vtubers in Korea just seems pretty fucked in general.
That's not true at all, most of Isegye Idol average 4k+ every stream, and KR indies are starting to get 1k views max on a good day, and 500 viewers average.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 04:58:46 No.21836966 Report

Quoted By: >>21837235 >>21838395

>>21836772
Wasn't it more that she sabotaged herself? desu i only watched 2 streams of her back in 2020

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 05:02:10 No.21837099 Report

Quoted By: >>21838796

>>21836926
That's the group I was talking about, they're the pink name in 2nd to last column. There's a pretty big gap between them and the next group, the black name, in median and peak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 05:02:52 No.21837131 Report

Quoted By: >>21838554 >>21838796

>>21836926
>the same as ID, new holoID breakthrough into the local market
is this a bad decision of niji management or simply just assortment of bad luck...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 05:05:49 No.21837235 Report

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>>21836966
Not really sabotage, as much as it's that she doesn't seem to want to become the big bridge and face of ID in the way that they needed. Mika seems like a more likely candidate to that end but I can't stand her in comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 05:14:47 No.21837624 Report

Quoted By: >>21838796 >>21857550

>>21832546
KR has dogshit management and their two most popular members graduated
Nari and Ha Yun are inclining at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 05:30:04 No.21838205 Report

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>>21832546
Why are Haruto and ERU ERUFU there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 05:34:51 No.21838395 Report

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>>21836966
I guess it's a combination of both. I wouldn't say she actively sabotaged herself as she's just doing what she wants but the end result was her reclining and her branch not benefitting from the attention as she did. But then again, it's the fault of their members too for not stepping up. Well, they have Mika now, and normally I would say there's a chance but they have TOO many members as opposed to their direct competition in Hololive. HoloID has been experiencing an incline lately with Moona and Risu's holofes performance being a complete hit among viewers and their 3rd generation blowing it out of the park (in the ID sphere) which resulted in ALL of them seeing an incline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 05:38:54 No.21838554 Report

Quoted By: >>21838725 >>21838796

>>21837131
Ironically it's bad luck, lol. Hololive can release KR now, and they will succeed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 05:43:33 No.21838725 Report

Quoted By: >>21838963

>>21838554
not bad luck, more not able to look at market trends since the ID scene has been rising for months.
the older a brand exists in a market the better it does when the market rises so to pull out now is basically pulling out after thrusting a few times and giving up because you didnt cum from the attempt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 05:45:41 No.21838796 Report

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>>21837131
mostly >>21838554 and >>21837624
but also bad timing. On the chart here >>21837099 NijiKR is actually holds the 31, 32, and 47 spot with Hada, Roha, and Nari respectively. Getting rid of the branch altogether means doing away with a lot of those gains, which is a shame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 05:50:29 No.21838963 Report

Quoted By: >>21839045

>>21838725
But let's be real here, do you really think that even if they took the ID and KR in their name, they won't be labeled as such? They're already recognized as members of that demographic, it's gonna be hard for people to forget that they are ID and KR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 05:53:07 No.21839045 Report

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>>21838963
correct but it also means those demos that are unaware will continue to be unaware that nijisanji has ID streamers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 07:38:18 No.21841926 Report

Quoted By: >>21844604 >>21851740

NijiIndia = Dead
NijiKorea = Dead
NijiIndonesia = Dead
NijiChina = Dying
NijiJP = Stagnate
NijiEN = Okay

I hope they fucking do something to recover. Because monopoly is never a good thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 09:05:12 No.21844604 Report

Quoted By: >>21858938

>>21841926
What's going on with the Chinese branch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 10:49:23 No.21847491 Report

Quoted By:

>>21832546
I don't think I've seen any content, clip, collab, guest on a call-in, anything, from anyone on the top row.
I've seen Ban Hada stuff, not-FBK and the guy next to her must have appeared in something.
Next row is much better, only blue hair, blue hat and red ribbon is unknown to me.
The two faggots on the front ring a bell and I've seen the Taka guy interacting with the retarded cat.

It's a sample size of 1 but I just don't think the algorithm is picking up anything they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 10:53:23 No.21847626 Report

Quoted By:

>>21832615
one out of 40 people is not exactly saving the group

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 11:24:21 No.21848562 Report

Quoted By: >>21850943

>>21836926
Interestingly, they are not allowed to mention in traditional korean vtuber communities.
isegye idol is originated from viewer group of one of the biggest korean twitch streamer 'Woowakgood'
However because of notorious spammer shilling his content in vtuber board made him permanently banned from being posted, and so his vtuber projects including isegye idol
However, youtube streaming and vtubing is basically dead in korea anyway, box pushing solely with Woowakgood's viewers are enough to make them top vtuber in korea

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 11:25:36 No.21848597 Report

Quoted By:

>>21832546
The clue is in the name, it says "Nijisanji" lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 12:26:55 No.21850363 Report

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Taka has good voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dir6-2jrwJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV16IXgwfVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsU4t4sWqak

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 12:34:29 No.21850565 Report

Quoted By: >>21850794 >>21850875 >>21867191

>>21832615
That's because she's a leech. She took advantage of the fact that she knows english well enough and constantly invades Luxiem's streams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 12:41:36 No.21850755 Report

Quoted By: >>21850882 >>21851289

>>21832546
I feel bad for Hyona and Xia ngl. They debuted back in August/September(?) and barely got any growth since their debut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 12:42:53 No.21850794 Report

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>>21850565
>she's a leech. She took advantage of the fact that she knows english well enough and constantly invades
It worked for HoloID

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 12:46:37 No.21850875 Report

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>>21850565
you just describing every nijiEN female in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 12:47:03 No.21850882 Report

Quoted By: >>21851248

>>21850755
hyonas break killed her momentum, and ever since stuff keeps coming up which keeps breaking the momentum.
xia is super niche with her tastes and isnt english friendly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 12:49:13 No.21850943 Report

Quoted By:

>>21848562
>Woowakgood
Is this real? Wtf is that name?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 12:50:07 No.21850963 Report

Quoted By: >>21852518

>>21836772
Basically her case was similar with HoloID but with treerrat. The only difference they have is that in HoloID Mooner took the baton from her while no one did that for Hana in NijiID

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:00:03 No.21851248 Report

Quoted By: >>21851529

>>21850882
Yeah, that makes wonder if NijiID management debuted gen 7 back then (male only irc). They would suffer so much from not having an audience. That's the silver lining from this merger i guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:01:08 No.21851289 Report

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>>21850755
Hyona might get a big boost when the teased Niji EN-ID D&D happens, her RP is very nice and her english is basically native level
Xia might be able to hook a big ID normie audience like Siska once she figures out how to wrangle a normie chat, or maybe she should grind out more songs and covers
Mika's the EN-lite anomaly of 6th wave, Hyona and Xia's numbers feel like the par for ID

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:07:00 No.21851529 Report

Quoted By: >>21852092

>>21851248
Who knows, one of them might pull a Mika and become EN-lite and help prop the branch up.
But yeah, don't think too much about hypothetical alternate timelines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:11:56 No.21851740 Report

Quoted By: >>21851835

>>21841926
>NijiChina = Dying
Yeah, dying when they keep being the biggest vtuber corpo and earning the most money as a whole in Chinese vtuber communities for years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:13:21 No.21851804 Report

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>>21832615
>Leeches off her roommate
>Leeches off her co-workers
Indog ghost leeches...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:14:12 No.21851835 Report

Quoted By: >>21852215

>>21851740
lmao virtualreal was never that big, even before a-soul came around and dominated the scene

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:20:34 No.21852092 Report

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>>21851529
2 person can't carry that many members. If they do like hololive did (3d, promo event, etc) they might have a chance.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:23:34 No.21852215 Report

Quoted By: >>21853442

>>21851835
>virtualreal was never that big
https://vup.darkflame.ga/ranking/month/2022/3?groupby=organization&sortby=income
Just check by yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:30:37 No.21852518 Report

Quoted By: >>21852736 >>21853745

>>21850963
The only reason Moona even got a chance to touch the baton is that she got lucky. HoloID got really fucking lucky if you look at it now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:35:47 No.21852736 Report

Quoted By: >>21853506 >>21853745

>>21852518
being lucky is holoID perk then. Since they got a lot of lucky moment, even with chain reaction sometimes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:50:51 No.21853442 Report

Quoted By: >>21853924

>>21852215
Whatever a million yuan is in real money
getting 4.4 for 4.9k hours is less impressive than getting 4.3 for 47 hours

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:52:17 No.21853506 Report

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>>21852736
luck is also a skill

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:57:41 No.21853745 Report

Quoted By: >>21862356

2bh if you want to understand NijiID, not only you must watch all of their livers but you must also keep in touch with all of their tweets or else you won't know what they're talking about when they stream so...
>>21852518
>>21852736
Hololive in general is really lucky if you think about it. Their incline is started from christmas miracle that basically happened because Sora was streaming that day. They also had fair share of yabs that even one of them would surely put any agency out of business.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:59:16 No.21853825 Report

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>>21832546
>40 fucking members
Here's your answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 13:59:48 No.21853865 Report

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Same reason majority of nijis flop. Too many chuubas in too little time so it gets overcrowded. It's easier to stick with what you know than to crawl through dozens of people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 14:00:59 No.21853924 Report

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>>21853442
>less impressive
Nice cope.
A-soul is impressive, but that doesn't change the fact that virtuareal earns a shitton of money. And they get 4.3 only in this month as maybe some kind of anniversary or birthday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 14:06:04 No.21854167 Report

Quoted By: >>21855238

>>21832546
They didn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 14:28:30 No.21855238 Report

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>>21854167
>Getting shut down
>Barely able to break 3 digits most days
>Losing talents left and right
>Their ace gets 1k on a really good day
Good one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 15:19:49 No.21857550 Report

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>>21837624
the female one inclined and at least kept some audience
the male gook has leeched multiple times now and never kept his momentum
he makes everything he's in boring to watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 15:50:50 No.21858938 Report

Quoted By:

>>21844604
The usual chinese internet drama stuff, but because it's china it blows up more often

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 16:51:47 No.21861778 Report

Quoted By:

>>21832546
nijisanji and flopping name a more iconic duo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 17:04:55 No.21862356 Report

Quoted By: >>21872215

>>21853745
yeah that's why being a NijiID fans is such an ass to do. i've been one, but bailed out after they released the 3rd wave.
their group names are also dumb, but that's what i think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 18:31:27 No.21867191 Report

Quoted By:

>>21850565
So she's basically doing her part? I see nothing wrong here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Apr 2022 20:19:04 No.21872215 Report

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>>21862356
Funny when people keep saying box-pushing everywhere without mentioning NijiID... and yeah that's ass to do but
unironically they keep on choosing names that is hard to memorize for their waves which from marketing perspective is bad

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