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/#/ - Numbers

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:24:17 No.22255480 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:24:40 No.22255490 Report

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>>22255480
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:24:44 No.22255495 Report

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:25:51 No.22255531 Report

Quoted By: >>22255563 >>22257601 >>22258548 >>22259072

>>22255480
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

Here it goes
>62,239: Aqua (Hololive)
>40,178: Pekora (Hololive)
>37,222: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>28,491: Pekora (Hololive)
>25,635: Hal (Neo Porte)
>19,247: Miko (Hololive)
>17,765: Miko (Hololive)
>13,403: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,927: Mumei (Hololive)
>12,332: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>12,219: Mio (Hololive)
>12,100: Suisei (Hololive)
>11,347: Toko (Nijisanji)
>11,203: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,459: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,341: Towa (Hololive)
>10,091: IRyS (Hololive)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:26:48 No.22255556 Report

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>>22249038
VSPO is doing it with some amount of success
"Hololive - but with X" seems to be a good strategy in general to find a niche audience.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:26:58 No.22255563 Report

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>>22255531
APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom

> PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
1x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
4x: Aqua
2x: Okayu, Pekora
1x: Hal, Calli, Subaru

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:29:00 No.22255634 Report

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>>22255480
*FINAL TW TALLY OF THE DAY *

>565: Lutralutra (Rescute)
>526: Margaret Winters (Cloud Horizon)
>340: HaiZ (Monstar)
>332: Amrzs (Monstar)
>262: Chilla Behemes (Storia)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:29:49 No.22255665 Report

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>>22255480
>NijiEn don't have anything special today
>Gura is streaming in a few hours
>Nijinnigers make bait posting early
poetry

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:30:13 No.22255683 Report

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>>22255480
*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY*

>8016: Moona (HololiveID)
>5707: Moona (HololiveID)
>5159: Moona (HololiveID)
>1292: Anya (HololiveID)
>1267: Mythia (Indie)
>1039: Chloe (Re:Memories)
>975: Bonnivier (Nijisanji ID)
>901: Mika (Nijisanji ID)
>866: Rai (Nijisanji ID)
>446: Andi (MAHA5)
>377: Nekoyama (Yume Reality)
>365: Nekoyama (Yume Reality)
>312: Tsuyu (Yume Reality)
>363: Siska (Nijisanji ID)
>270: Zen (MAHA5)
>224: Etna (Nijisanji ID)
>204: Xia (Nijisanji ID)

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:30:33 No.22255700 Report

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>>22255051
>??? where's this narrative coming from?
>Hololive was always modeled to be a virtual idol group, a.la
>> AKB8 mitai ni
>from Yagoo that got memed to death.
Anon, don't fall for the memes and paint yourself as a reddit clipwatcher.

If you can find the subtitled interview or the transcript you'll realize what was being talked about in the context.
The whole talk was about how Hololive would be different from the Kizuna AI project in particular and other similar projects in that time, like the Akai Mirai project and even the Sakura Miko Project
>all "soloist" projects
with a whole company geared up to provide for a single talent.

He then used AKB48 as an example of what would be his angle, to create a company with no "protagonist" so he could have a whole ensemble of girls being provided by a single company with a single structure behind them.

He was not saying
>Hololive will be an idol company
but
>Hololive will be modeled on a multi talent company instead of on a solo talent company

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:31:25 No.22255743 Report

Quoted By: >>22255851 >>22255878 >>22255952

NijiEN has the biggest potential to have million subscribers because they are popular on highly populated countries . China, Philippines and Taiwan

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:32:50 No.22255792 Report

Quoted By: >>22255880 >>22255890 >>22256219 >>22257369

How much for Gura Vampire Survivors? 20k? 25k?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:33:03 No.22255813 Report

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HoloEN has the biggest potential to have millionS of subscribers because they are popular on highly populated countries. Every single EN speaking country

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:33:47 No.22255844 Report

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>>22255665
Nijiniggers have a severe case of small dog syndrome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:33:51 No.22255851 Report

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>>22255743
>Taiwan
>countries

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:34:34 No.22255878 Report

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>>22255743
Not everyone in those countries are fujos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:34:35 No.22255880 Report

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>>22255792
>How much for Gura Vampire Survivors?
Depends on overlap.
>25k?
I wish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:34:47 No.22255889 Report

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You now i find it kind of funny had the Council girls no gotten their subs culled the only Council girl that Vox would have passed by in subs would be Sana

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:34:47 No.22255890 Report

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>>22255792
18-22k if there isn't any other stream in her timeslot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:35:37 No.22255918 Report

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>>22255700
Again, that wasn't the only point, the idol thing was set up long before 2020.
First fest was in Jan 2020, and even then most of the talents were there performing on stage.
It was always slated to be an "idol group" (just with the definition an idol could be being a lot wider in scope).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:36:01 No.22255929 Report

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/#/ is declining.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:36:40 No.22255952 Report

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>>22255743

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:37:25 No.22255985 Report

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>>22255929
Hey, man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:38:33 No.22256030 Report

Quoted By: >>22256084 >>22256122

>>22255844
Their only salvation is vox first karaoke but if Aqua , Kuzuha, pekora or someone else do something big that day. Then goodbye until his 3d debut in 2025. Truly i don't care about that but I don't want the stupid spam from them like the last time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:40:00 No.22256084 Report

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>>22256030
>Their only salvation is vox first karaoke but if Aqua , Kuzuha, pekora

Kuzuha and Aqua have scrims all week, it really depends on if Aqua decides to actually stream that day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:41:09 No.22256122 Report

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>>22256030
They'll just spam regardless. Chinks are shameless.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:42:06 No.22256154 Report

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>>22255186
>It's organic and changing, and I agree that it's not a perfect metric, but it's a hell of a lot better than anything else i've seen.
Some hubris you've got there, I'll assume what you did is "better than anything else" you saw because you never seen anything else at all.

What you are doing is exactly what Social blade does, see for instance
https://socialblade.com/youtube/compare/UCckdfYDGrjojJM28n5SHYrA/UCHsx4Hqa-1ORjQTh9TYDhww
for the Kiara / Vox comparison.

Look at pic related and understand why you are being called a retard: you spent an inordinate time to reinvent SocialBlade subs comparison, and it shares the same flaw
>it uses a linear extrapolation
when, in reality, the growth tapers off after a while.

The thing is: you are not even wrong, despite not being right. Maybe Vox will catch up to Kiara in October, maybe he will catch up with her even earlier, maybe he will take longer but a linear extrapolation of his current growth means fuck all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:42:28 No.22256164 Report

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>>22255634
That's one cute island chink
>>22255683
>all Moona podium
S-sugoi

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:42:43 No.22256171 Report

Quoted By: >>22256424

>>22255665
where are these "bait posts" again

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:43:59 No.22256219 Report

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>>22255792
14k, but 400k vod.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:47:18 No.22256332 Report

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>>22255918
>that wasn't the only point
It was the most salient point, and wrong to boot

>First fest was in Jan 2020
The events I was talking about were mostly about what happened before Coco debuted and in her first few months.

There was no expectation in 2019 that every girl would have to sing and dance or do anything other than stream the required time, that's exactly why it caught Okayu by surprise.

Some, like Sora, would of course be expected to sing and dance, others, like Gamers and, presumably, Coco, not necessarily.
Even during Gen 5 debut there was not that expectation set in stone.

But specially after the chinkout it became clear that there was immense potential in getting the majority of the girls singing, dancing and releasing covers and originals, and in the end of 2020 with that "a new song every week leading to Bloom" it was obvious that this was the new roadmap for the company

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:47:39 No.22256348 Report

Quoted By: >>22256527 >>22256638

>>22255480
* NIJISANJI TALLY OF THE DAY *

>37.524: Kuzuha
>12.402: Yuki Chihiro
>11.459: Inui Toko
>8.980: Tsukino Mito
>8.844: Ibrahim
>8.797: Vox Akuma (Nijisanji EN)
>7.756: Furen E Lustario
>7.537: Hayato Kagami
>7.450: Fuwa Minato
>7.123: Kanae
>6.317: Sasaki Saku
>5.380: Shu Yamino (Nijisanji EN)
>5.173: Amamiya Kokoro
>5.137: Ars Almal
>5.106: Shu Yamino (Nijisanji EN)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:48:31 No.22256384 Report

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>>22256154
Anon, just let her be with the Vox subs. It's pure grudge post material

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:49:05 No.22256401 Report

Quoted By: >>22256471

The benefits of absolute dead hours like right now is we can at least see the numbers of lower tier NijiENs when they aren't slaughtered by overlap, and it's honestly not much better than when they are.
It's not like Nina is a 5k streamer that's constantly overlapped to being sub-3k.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:49:39 No.22256424 Report

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>>22256171

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:50:21 No.22256462 Report

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>>22251768
Cabaret Gen was influential throughout hololive even if you couldnt say any single one of them had the impact of FBK, Aqua or Coco. They refashioned the company into the idol cabaret it became, before them the holos would collab a lot more with nijis and didnt run scared from males etc. and after it became a lot more "dating the audience" type of stuff
Marine might qualify since she is influential throughout the company and did outside stuff before her throat gave out but putting it all on her shoulders isnt fair, the thing is Peko and Rushia pretty much do (did) nothing out of streams but their strong results made waves and changed behavior of the other girls

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:50:34 No.22256471 Report

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>>22256401
And it's even worse because people expect the boys to jump onto her minecraft streams so you can't even say "well she brought them on her own"

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:52:04 No.22256527 Report

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>>22256348
Cease this faggotry immediately

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:53:16 No.22256576 Report

Quoted By: >>22256647 >>22256665 >>22256677 >>22257147

What degenarate niche brings the most numbers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:54:38 No.22256638 Report

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>>22256348
This is the content I come here for. Can we get a VOMS gold?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:54:44 No.22256647 Report

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>>22256576
Whatever Vox did apparently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:55:07 No.22256665 Report

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>>22256576
drama farming, but no chuuba is shameless enough for that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:55:28 No.22256677 Report

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>>22256576
I've seen foot fetish ASMR doing pretty well

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:55:51 No.22256691 Report

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>>22256665
Kek. Pomu and nina did

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:56:04 No.22256706 Report

Quoted By: >>22256818

That Elden Ring Tree Sentinel race is going to have some interesting overlap since it's on Saturday night at 8 PM PST. So far there is Ina, Mori, IRyS, and Kronii confirmed but a number of JPs will also likely be doing normal Elden Ring streams around that time, so we could end up with 7-8 Elden Ring streams overlapping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:58:47 No.22256818 Report

Quoted By: >>22256911 >>22257463 >>22257606 >>22258770

>>22256706
Wait what's the race going to be, starting over as a level 1 wretch and then first to kill tree sentinel?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 19:59:05 No.22256833 Report

Quoted By: >>22256871 >>22256896 >>22257032

Good showing for NijiEN at these hours, relatively speaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:00:10 No.22256869 Report

Quoted By: >>22256948

>>22256691
i thought it was just a gag?

i meant more like n*rukami, although his ass is gettin sued into oblivion

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:00:14 No.22256871 Report

Quoted By: >>22256926 >>22260703

>>22256833
>no talking
She needs to stop this shit if she ever wants to get anywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:00:44 No.22256896 Report

Quoted By: >>22256982 >>22257131

>>22256833
> Dead hours
Can't really fake it. lmao. If you're here millie I want you to know that you can't save dead hours. lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:00:48 No.22256900 Report

Quoted By: >>22257159 >>22257482

>>22256332
Hold up, are all holos actually required to perform a 3D live? Haven't some skipped theirs recently or used it on something other than a concert?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:01:03 No.22256911 Report

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>>22256818
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:01:17 No.22256926 Report

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>>22256871
She's talking

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:01:46 No.22256948 Report

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>>22256869
It's fake drama made for the views yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:02:18 No.22256982 Report

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>>22256896
Sorry she's not doing more Tagalog streams for you, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:03:20 No.22257032 Report

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>>22256833
Fatgur even losing to girls now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:05:43 No.22257131 Report

Quoted By: >>22257465

>>22256896
It's interesting how in vtubing the dead hours are basically the opposite of what I'm used to in the euroamerican online sphere. Right now is by far the most active for online game activity, esports and game streamers in general. In about nine more hours is the normal euroamerican dead zone but in vtubing it's exactly when Japan starts ramping up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:06:16 No.22257147 Report

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>>22256576
Feet and piss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:06:41 No.22257159 Report

Quoted By: >>22257482

>>22256900
>Hold up, are all holos actually required to perform a 3D live?
HoloFes, to the best of my knowledge, is mandatory for all Holos with 3D models.

Not necessarily having a sololive or a bday live or an anniversary live or a just because live but, if it is not a hard requirement for every girl to sing and dance (outside of Holofes), any girl not doing it will put herself into a compettiive disadvantage.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:08:31 No.22257226 Report

Quoted By: >>22257264

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>13,067: Mumei (Hololive)
>10,143: IRyS (Hololive)
>9,419: Amelia (Hololive)
>9,097: Kiara (Hololive)
>8,797: Vox (Nijisanji)
>8,376: Amelia (Hololive)
>7,821: Mori (Hololive)
>6,021: Mori (Hololive)
>5,380: Shu (Nijisanji)
>5,106: Shu (Nijisanji)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:09:32 No.22257264 Report

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>>22257226
EN Gold so far for April

1. Kronii (Hololive) - 25,476 (April Fools model swap featuring IRyS as Kronii)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 39,453 (April Fools 3DVR Variety Show)
3. Mori (Hololive) - 28,119 (Birthday Countdown and Call-ins)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 79,372 (Birthday 3D Live)
5. Gura (Hololive) - 40,764 (Unarchived Karaoke)
6. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 28,375 (Unarchived Karaoke)
7. Gura (Hololive) - 14,677 (Kirby and the Forgotten Land)
8. Amelia (Hololive) - 10,640 (Elden Ring)
9. Mumei (Hololive) - 15,767 (Food Review w/Baelz)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 19,169 (Overwatch w/Ina, IRyS, Mumei, Kronii, and Amelia)
11. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,067 (Vampire Survivors)

Hololive - 10
Nijisanji - 1
Others - 0

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:10:56 No.22257305 Report

Quoted By: >>22257392 >>22262330

OH MAN, Moona is surely setting up Kronii for a good Minecraft return arc
>if Kronii is smart enough to take advantage of it

Long story short, Moona showed up at Bunkeronii and, by being ten times more OCD than the clockgirl, fixed lots of stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VR8GJxJbEM

And, here is the thing: Moona is doing that with 100% confidence it will generate an arc as long as Kronii plays her role properly.
Didn't both had a Minecraft collab that got postponed because Moona got the coof or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:12:43 No.22257369 Report

Quoted By: >>22257451

>>22255792
The 2 times Gura played VS they did really well, though the 2nd time was definitely much weaker. But that was because Gura was actually good at it compared to the others and it looked like a cakewalk so I think she peaked at like 18k the second time around.

She hadn’t played since so, new maps new characters will at least entice some to come watch. If mumei can get 13k uncontested I have no doubt Gura can get at least 16k, but my heart says 18k is her peak. Though I hope I’m proven wrong and a 19k-20k comes out of it. Kirby ccv aside, it looks like she’s inclined a bit as of late

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:13:19 No.22257390 Report

Quoted By: >>22257634 >>22257752 >>22257767 >>22257812 >>22257902 >>22258108 >>22260707

What path is left in front of Anycolor for a potential incline back to being at least a competitive rival to Cover?
They're in the awkward place of not being able to support talents unless they're already big (e.g. Kuzuha, Kanae, Lize, Sanbaka etc.).
If they want to polish some new recruit/languishing talent among their ranks, it would immediately reek of favoritism since only they are getting management level support despite others with similar numbers not getting it.
I feel like Edengumi was their swan song in some ways, since after that they just seem resigned to their fate...
Their next big potential stars (Ranunculus) got 50k each on debut just on the sheer name recognition, but they were given the dogshit 1.0 models, weren't really given any "training" in the so-called "Academy", and were just thrown into the crab bucket of "Nijisanji" without much fanfare.
Is it even possible to break this death spiral and recover? Or have the management just given up, and are just collecting paychecks with minimal work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:13:23 No.22257392 Report

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>>22257305
>Kronii
>doing anything
All she had to do was shitpost back at Fauna and she didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:15:03 No.22257451 Report

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>>22257369
She got 27k the first time and 18k the second time.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:15:31 No.22257463 Report

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>>22256818
>starting over as a level 1 wretch and then first to kill tree sentinel?
I tried this when I saw Luca do it and it's kinda fun?
Like you die in like 1-2 hits in phase 1 and literally everything one-shots in phase 2 so you basically need to play like Botan and bait out the charging move for chip damage 30 times.
Took me 5 hours because it's so tempting to play aggressively since Tree Sentinel has openings, but you die if you trade hits. In comparison, it took me less than an hour as lv 1 Samurai since bleed is OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:15:36 No.22257465 Report

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>>22257131
Euroamerican Twitch meta is roughly the PC Esports meta (that flips said audience into the React meta), catering mostly to males. Is the problem that "males looking for stream entertainment" were already snapped up by existing Twitch streamers in these timeslots, or is there instead a lack of content that appeals to whatever the majority of Europe is looking for? Or is there just a need to ACCELERATE so someone actually taps into a yet unserved audience?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:16:11 No.22257482 Report

Quoted By: >>22257643 >>22257814

>>22256900
During the bigger "all holos included" festivals, yeah. They can get away with doing the absolute minimum of 1 solo + 1 group song though.

>>22257159
>any girl not doing it will put herself into a competitive disadvantage
Botan exists mate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:19:20 No.22257589 Report

Quoted By: >>22257771 >>22257786

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIX8hBvVuY
Isn't 167k views in around 1.5 days really good for something on AZKi's channel?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:19:36 No.22257601 Report

Quoted By: >>22257942

>>22255480
I'm not reposting the Twitch tally.
>>22255531
Have a masked Aqua instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:19:49 No.22257606 Report

Quoted By:

>>22256818
Miko did a no damage run of the tree sentinal so Miko might win if she plays. Go Miko Go!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:20:39 No.22257634 Report

Quoted By: >>22257887

>>22257390
There is pretty much nothing they can do, no one can replicate the sheer amount of luck Hololive fell into and Anycolor would still find a way to fuck it up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:20:47 No.22257643 Report

Quoted By: >>22258620

>>22257482
Botan is strong as fuck at her streaming abilities (even more than at her gaming skills), she doesn't really need to sing and dance.
Notice that gen 5 only got their "idol outfits" last month

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:23:30 No.22257750 Report

Quoted By:

you guys don't get numbers go to your head right? you still watch cute indies and 2views being cute right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:23:33 No.22257752 Report

Quoted By: >>22257887 >>22257921 >>22258387

>>22257390
This is like asking how can the newer Hololive gens match Myth's 2020 and Luxiem's current subgrowth.
Sometimes you just get lucky and go viral in the right places. Trying to go viral might backfire instead and it's not like Nijisanji is close to struggling anyways because the stars are still there to pay the bills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:23:51 No.22257767 Report

Quoted By: >>22257880

>>22257390
No idea, has any company ever risen from the dead once it's fallen into irrelevancy? I know a lot of them hang around forever without completely folding but getting the spotlight back again seems almost impossible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:23:57 No.22257771 Report

Quoted By:

>>22257589
Incredibly good. Way better than her originals and covers got beforehand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:24:20 No.22257786 Report

Quoted By:

>>22257589
Yeah, it's fine.
Should have ~250-300k by next weekend, take ~3 months to reach a million unless it gets a new wind, witch would be only Azki's 4th million + video by that point.
Since Fake Fake Fake should get there soon-ish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:25:10 No.22257812 Report

Quoted By:

>>22257390
I don't think they can debut their way out of this, it's already been widely discussed how hololive are struggling to get big hits with new debuts, and the problem is only going to be worse for niji. On the other hand, it's very difficult to restart a stalled chuuba that has already lost their steam. I think slow decline is their future, but they're still going to be top tier for a good while yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:25:13 No.22257814 Report

Quoted By: >>22257897 >>22258620

>>22257482
Botan still does and joins 3D lives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:27:06 No.22257880 Report

Quoted By: >>22257944

>>22257767
Only case I can really think of is Love Live vs Im@s.
During the u's era, Love Live was the hottest shit and im@s was becoming irrelevant.
Fast forward 10 years and now it feels like Love Live is completely overshadowed by im@s.
I still don't know how they revived the im@s franchise as more and more clones pop up and saturated the market.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:27:22 No.22257887 Report

Quoted By: >>22258490

>>22257634
>>22257752
> luck
No luck is ever going to come to those who don't create opportunities for themselves though...
That's what's confusing me about Ranunculus, they had eyes on them, but all they got was the absolute bare minimum resources...
Is there ANY reason why the 2.0 Live2D models weren't given to them? Did Edengumi also debut with 1.0?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:27:33 No.22257897 Report

Quoted By: >>22257955 >>22258620

>>22257814
Botan fucking loves the singing and dancing part of Hololive. She's having the time of her life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:27:43 No.22257902 Report

Quoted By: >>22258150 >>22258306 >>22258509

>>22257390
Relegate 2/3rds of the roster into a "Legacy" Division and let them quietly live out their lives as they please. Take your best 1/3rd and start having them group with each other closely, do collabs frequently, do big events as a group ect. Start doing crossover collabs with Niji EN as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:28:12 No.22257921 Report

Quoted By: >>22257964 >>22257981 >>22257983

>>22257752
>Luxiem's current subgrowth
thats easy just pandering celebration, ASMR and special events like a retard or like Twitch. but don't ask why your subs don't growth any longer after a few months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:28:33 No.22257934 Report

Quoted By: >>22258016 >>22258019

>>22255556
>Hololive - but with X
How is VSPO Hololive? They roll their eyes at being considered idols just like how CR members roll their eyes at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:28:48 No.22257942 Report

Quoted By:

>>22255480
>>22257601
Thank you NWO for giving me a new fetish over the last two years

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:28:48 No.22257944 Report

Quoted By:

>>22257880
Love Live killed their golden gen for no apparent reason

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:29:04 No.22257955 Report

Quoted By:

>>22257897
love her performance on fes 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:29:16 No.22257964 Report

Quoted By: >>22258051

>>22257921
Isn't Vox constantly doing sub endurance shit as well? That's how Kiara managed to pump up her sub growth when she was below 1m.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:29:35 No.22257981 Report

Quoted By: >>22258214

>>22257921
>don't ask why your subs don't growth any longer after a few months.
I mean, everyone hits a wall eventually with or without pandering.
Look at HoloX's current subgrowth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:29:44 No.22257983 Report

Quoted By: >>22258256

>>22257921
Well its not like councils growing much sub wise regardless after their hololive debut instant sub dump so whats the difference

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:30:32 No.22258016 Report

Quoted By: >>22258079 >>22258355

>>22257934
> "box" of cute girls with cute interactions with each other, including comfy off-collabs (no males allowed here btw kek)
> but playing FPS at a high skill level instead of being idols who sing and dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:30:36 No.22258019 Report

Quoted By: >>22258113

>>22257934
The only part that makes them hololive is that they are female only. They are much closer to Niji females in terms of content/attitude/fanbase (I honestly think VSPO has taken some fans away from some Niji female streamers)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:31:22 No.22258051 Report

Quoted By: >>22258262

>>22257964
Luca does it more successfully. Vox's last "endurance" sub stream he hit it in like an hour but kept going to 5:22 for chuuni reasons. I think endurance streams are a meme and at most net a couple thousand more subs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:32:01 No.22258079 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258016
Sanbaka and Selejo have more in common with Hololive than VSPO does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:32:48 No.22258108 Report

Quoted By: >>22258509

>>22257390
>What path is left in front of Anycolor for a potential incline back to being at least a competitive rival to Cover?
Pick the popular talents and redebut them with a new brand, since the nijibrand is too devaluated right now because every shitter can get in
Then try to create a multimedia project like hololive alternative, holoearth and hope hololive messes up and goes under

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:32:56 No.22258113 Report

Quoted By: >>22258254 >>22258264 >>22258315 >>22258554

>>22258019
It's interesting when you think about it.
Hololive found its niche in idolfaggotry but Nijisanji's model of having a little bit of everything is starting to get pecked away at by other agencies specializing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:33:49 No.22258150 Report

Quoted By: >>22258224

>>22257902
>Take your best 1/3rd and start having them group with each other closely, do collabs frequently, do big events as a group ect.
Unironically this is kind of what NijiEn is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:35:10 No.22258214 Report

Quoted By:

>>22257981
> HoloX
I mean... they utilized their debut buff to the fullest extent possible I'd say.
Orca has 800k, Laplus is at 750k, and even the supposed "runt" Lui is closing in on 500k.
500 fucking k mate.
Barely 3 months after debut.
And all of them have a solid enough floor of people who will watch them and them alone. They also brought in a HUGE new audience, since none of the holos CCVs really showed much of a recline before vs after HoloX debuted (despite concerns from some holomem).

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:35:19 No.22258224 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258150
Yeah but they're gonna accelerate it into a brick wall just like they always do. Out of greed or just not knowing how to do anything differently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:36:14 No.22258254 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258113
>Nijisanji's model of having a little bit of everything is starting to get pecked away at by other agencies specializing
This. Nijisanji has the most variety of everyone, but, as you said, corpos that specialize in some field eat their viewer base. Without taking into account the ones that are there for the chuuba themselves, the tourists looking for the genre/game are gonna go to the corpo that focuses on that stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:36:16 No.22258256 Report

Quoted By: >>22258363 >>22258364

>>22257983
council aren't pandering like retards and that a good thing. Like holox. Pandering to much is bad eventually

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:36:21 No.22258262 Report

Quoted By: >>22258499 >>22263744

>>22258051
NTA, but endurance streams definitely work if you're somewhat popular.
There are Holos who have gotten like 6-8k subs in a day with it when their normal numbers are <1000. Think of Flare's endurance karaokes where she sets a 6k goal and sings for 6 hours.
If you're Roboco or Matsuri, then yeah it'll be rough.

Most EN vtubers set realistic goals that they would hit anyways, like Vox knows he gets around 5k a day so he knows he'll get it for sure without needing to kill himself.
HoloEN endurance streams are fucking memes tho (endurance for 2k subs that they get instantly) but they should do it more often imo. It's free numbers.
Council's bad subgrowth could be related to how most of them don't bring attention to it at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:36:23 No.22258264 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258113
reminds me of how MMOs died... all the small things they were good at got picked away by other genres like MOBAs, Survival games, and Crafting games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:37:25 No.22258306 Report

Quoted By: >>22258418

>>22257902
Won't work because they don't know eachother and after 4 years they're way too comfortable in their own little groups..
Nijisanji (like any group) has openly had management requested collabs in the past and people interacting outside of their circles just do it like co-workers would.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:37:43 No.22258315 Report

Quoted By: >>22258546

>>22258113
This is why I think retards doomposting about homostarsEN turning hololive into nijisanji 2.0 are dumb. Cover would have to be suicidal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:38:54 No.22258355 Report

Quoted By: >>22258408

>>22258016
>no males allowed here btw kek
>he doesn't know
They literally have rotating shows on nnd with fps guys, hal too, they did a shopping one where they dressed up a man

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:39:07 No.22258363 Report

Quoted By: >>22258487

>>22258256
We're talking about numbers here so no, it's not really a good thing if it doesn't lead to good numbers.
Council is infamous for being self-sabotaging.

No one in HoloX even panders except for Chloe, and that's a stretch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:39:07 No.22258364 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258256
I guess its bad for other reasons but its not bad for sub growth, which is what the dicussion was. Not pandering doesn't mean you don't hit the wall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:39:52 No.22258387 Report

Quoted By: >>22258459 >>22258482 >>22258518 >>22258578

>>22257752
>Luxiem's subgrowth
Anon... A fucking indog brat that debuted less than a month ago is projected to pass over them this year. And not only that but said indog brat is mogging 17/20 of the NijiEns and is veerrry competitive with the last three. Luxiem is a success by Nijisanji standards, but as graphanon has shown they can't even beat council and aren't even holding off the star of ID3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:40:31 No.22258408 Report

Quoted By: >>22258511 >>22258843 >>22258890

>>22258355
> off-collabs
read mate
or are you telling me that VSPO girls would not get in trouble for offcollabs with males on stream?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:40:44 No.22258418 Report

Quoted By: >>22258588

>>22258306
>Won't work because they don't know eachother and after 4 years they're way too comfortable in their own little groups..
Yep. Trying to create a "dream team" is exactly how
>UMISEA
was formed and, despite not being as bad as this board puts, it is not as good as the organic groups that arise among Holos

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:41:44 No.22258459 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258387
> A fucking indog brat that debuted less than a month ago is projected to pass over them this year
She is slowing though. Shes down to Vox's subgrowth now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:42:22 No.22258482 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258387
In terms of daily subs, Kobo is still hot right now, but Zeta and Kaela have fallen off already. Vox actually got more subs today than Kobo actually, believe it or not.
>And not only that but said indog brat is mogging 17/20 of the NijiEns and is veerrry competitive with the last three.
>graphanon has shown they can't even beat council and aren't even holding off the star of ID3.
We're talking about sub growth, not CCV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:42:25 No.22258487 Report

Quoted By: >>22258592

>>22258363
We love stinky orca, pls understand. Also if you wanting pandering numbers it would be Koyory and her 500k in a month complex

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:42:36 No.22258490 Report

Quoted By: >>22258656

>>22257887
yeah Edengumi debuted with 1.0, oliver's was especially stiff
putting them through a test and making them stream for a while before getting a technologically current model just feels like they have no confidence in who they hired

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:42:58 No.22258499 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258262
Council's "bad" subgrowth is just their -200k cull at their start and the natural subgrowth for western vtubers post-2020 peak. IRyS and all the Myth girls now have the same relative growth except Gura/Mori.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:43:14 No.22258509 Report

Quoted By: >>22258663 >>22258786

>>22257902
>>22258108
That just sounds like "become hololive" but with extra steps. Dunno if that's going to save them because their audience is somewhat different and might genuinely freak out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:43:20 No.22258511 Report

Quoted By: >>22259335

>>22258408
anon.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:43:32 No.22258518 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258387
Lmao. Lets see her sub growth in 2 months. Shes still getting the hololive sub dump from her debut

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:44:18 No.22258546 Report

Quoted By: >>22258688 >>22258955

>>22258315
Just to entertain the idea, Yagoo is pretty fucking desperate to make the Homos big.
No one would be surprised if Omega tried to force the two branches to interact (which won't happen since he'd get his ass lit on fire) or at least incentivize it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:44:19 No.22258548 Report

Quoted By: >>22258601 >>22258654

>>22255531
Isn't Kuzuha supposed to be the king of apex or some shit why is he being mogged by Aqua

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:44:35 No.22258554 Report

Quoted By: >>22258717

>>22258113
As soon as some corpo nails the Japanese TV variety show thing but without the incredibly convoluted cast of characters Niji is over

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:45:08 No.22258578 Report

Quoted By: >>22258598 >>22258763

>>22258387
you forgot the most important part
the brat doesn't even speak EN
a pure indog audience is beating the biggest foreign branch of Nijisanji

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:45:30 No.22258588 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258418
Having "good, organic" groups ain't doing anything for them. Umisea is just some throwaway luxury thing they did to sell some merch. Niji JP finding some way to reinvent itself and capture some of the market back isn't just a luxury, it's sort of essential long term.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:45:39 No.22258592 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258487
>Koyory and her 500k in a month complex
I actually think Koyori is punching way above her weight class by being a complete numberfag.
Like she's already ditched Iroha and is closer to Chloe's numbers now, which isn't what people would expect during debut week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:45:50 No.22258597 Report

Quoted By: >>22258671 >>22258706 >>22258959 >>22259396

I tried watching the other team's perspective aside from aqua and holy shit are they boring. i watched 4 diff perspectives and all they do is camp. like literally just camp and poke. Aside from one game from aqua, at least they've went out and tried to go HAM on some shitters

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:45:51 No.22258598 Report

Quoted By: >>22258750

>>22258578
Shes also beating a lot of HoloEn...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:45:54 No.22258601 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258548
It's Aqua first tournament, she is buffed as hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:46:24 No.22258620 Report

Quoted By: >>22258988

>>22257814
>>22257643
>>22257897

Idk if it's just me or her age is definitely showing but she seems awkward at the lives, not outrigh in the singing/dancing part but more in the aftermath parts when she's fucking around the other Holos, as if she doesn't know what to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:47:33 No.22258654 Report

Quoted By: >>22258796

>>22258548
Hype for Aqua is off the charts because she's known as the solo master girl and it's her first and last tournament.
If she doesn't join the next Vsaikyou, it'll be Kuzuha winning golds from scrims again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:47:35 No.22258656 Report

Quoted By: >>22258799

>>22258490
I do wonder if it's them avoiding favoritism though... considering that they still have absolute shitters in their roster with 1+ years of experience (who I assume still have their 1.0 model) it might cause bad feelings if the "hot new thing" also got the new versions of the model denied to you for so long.
This is just me assuming that there is a hypothetical old Niji liver still using 1.0 though... do they actually exist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:47:47 No.22258663 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258509
They need to specialize in something instead of being a jack of all trades, before they get devoured completely by hololive, vspo and other vtubing companies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:47:56 No.22258671 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258597
Thats because they want to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:48:23 No.22258688 Report

Quoted By: >>22258858 >>22258977

>>22258546
People would be surprised. I would be surprised. It's very clear the majority of EN girls are actively avoiding Holostars. Only 3 to my knowledge have even appeared on stream with them. Only one has done a one on one collab. For them to just roll over and collab with Holostars EN without a fight seems unlikely.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:49:01 No.22258705 Report

Quoted By: >>22258733 >>22258977

Why do we care about subs all of the sudden

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:49:03 No.22258706 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258597
That's how you actually win in JP Apex. Everyone just turtles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:49:20 No.22258717 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258554
... Joshiraku as VTubers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:49:44 No.22258733 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258705
we care about everyones subs except gura, fuck you gura

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:50:00 No.22258750 Report

Quoted By: >>22258816 >>22258872

>>22258598
She's beating Sana (just fucking stream woman), Kiara, and the debuff quenn Ame. But aside from those three, she's still a tier below the others. Don't get me wrong though, the fact that we're even having this conversation for someone who doesn't pander to EOPs is crazy in itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:50:33 No.22258763 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258578
If you watch her streams she can and does speak English. Her audience is for sure not 100% Indogs. It's probably 60% Indogs and 40% Japs, EOPs, and other ESL SEAfolk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:50:43 No.22258770 Report

Quoted By: >>22258943

>>22256818
we don't know the rules yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:51:05 No.22258786 Report

Quoted By: >>22258898

>>22258509
I don't know enough about the nijiJP fanbase, but surely no matter what the freak-out caused by this would just kill the company. I know they aren't the same, but imagine hololive culling their underperforming chuubas and sending them off to fade away in obscurity, the outrage would be catastrophic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:51:21 No.22258796 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258654
There would be no Apex tourney next time without Aqua. Aqua literally invigorated the Apex scene.
The next Vsaikyou would be LoL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:51:23 No.22258799 Report

Quoted By: >>22259205 >>22261455

>>22258656
>who I assume still have their 1.0 model
2.0 is by debut order. Edengumi were the last JPs to get 2.0. Fucking selejo has 3.0 now. 3.0 is by raffle, Kuzuha won it but doesn't give a shit, Kanae doesn't have it yet, Hajime has had it for months as well as several other whos, meanwhile many popular people haven't won the raffle yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:52:00 No.22258816 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258750
I'm just saying I think its doing a disservice to Kobo to pretend that shes doing so well because her competition is falling (which we know its not- all of Niji, hell most of EN, inclined last month), rather than because shes doing so much better than expected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:52:03 No.22258819 Report

Quoted By:

Who triggered aqua schizo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:52:46 No.22258843 Report

Quoted By: >>22259335

>>22258408
You are really retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:53:10 No.22258858 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258688
Mori is the only one from Myth I can see collab with them and that's only if they're successful (Even though she paid lip service to JP stars, she never really helped them outside of Spiral Tones).
From Council I can see Bae actively collab with them (unless it starts to hurt her, she actively avoids mentioning Roberu to avoid being shipped with him) and maybe Mumei if Bae asks for backup.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:53:43 No.22258872 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258750
Beats Bae pretty handily too. Kobo probably beats everyone in NijiEN except for Mysta and Vox.
And she does have EOP viewers even with her minimal english.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:54:02 No.22258890 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258408
Vspo is Nijisanji done right.
Nijisanji literally doesn't know what to do with their female talents. They have now resorted to leeching off of Vspo girls just to stay relevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:54:12 No.22258898 Report

Quoted By: >>22259022 >>22259153

>>22258786
Hololive doesn't have 200 people and hasn't actively cultivated a culture of ignoring most of the roster to focus on a few people. They could still occasionally collab with their friends but the idea is to direct all promotional resources to a core group of people and mold them into an environment people want to join and be a part of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:55:18 No.22258943 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258770
Ah, well, it's definitely something that needs rules. Like even just getting Torrent makes that fight much easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:55:37 No.22258955 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258546
You're fucking retarded.
Hololive and Holostars are managed by different staff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:55:38 No.22258959 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258597
always been like that, except for a few players

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:55:49 No.22258968 Report

Quoted By: >>22259001 >>22259084 >>22259125 >>22259244

Anyone else keep getting random 2views in their recommended? I never saw it until around a month ago now it's every single time I open up Youtube

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:56:05 No.22258977 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258688
Out of the three, Mori is the one to do a one-on-one collab, Bae actively avoids those, and Mumei got dragged in because Bae didn’t want to be the only EN there. Mumei didn’t even retweet the StarsEN audition announcement, while tweeting Happy Birthday to Miko that same day.
>>22258705
Luxiem Special Olympics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:56:26 No.22258988 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258620
watch the last Watame live she was in, she was pretty energetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:56:53 No.22259001 Report

Quoted By: >>22259576

>>22258968
They want you to save her anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:57:03 No.22259005 Report

Quoted By: >>22259059

Ina waiting room 5k. Definitely another 10k stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:57:41 No.22259022 Report

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>>22258898
Their brand image is already set in stone. Unless they want to rebrand Nijisanji, any attempts to change their culture is futile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:58:47 No.22259059 Report

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>>22259005
First solo stream in more than a week

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:59:02 No.22259072 Report

Quoted By: >>22259102

>>22255531
I'm slightly surprised Laplus Gartic Phone didn't get more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:59:25 No.22259084 Report

Quoted By: >>22259576

>>22258968
its your fate, anon. your calling, you're destined as The Messiah of 2Views

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 20:59:49 No.22259102 Report

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>>22259072
Wasn't it viewers only?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:00:04 No.22259112 Report

Quoted By: >>22259332

Vspo has truly surpassed more than half of Nijisanji members. They are now able to compete with NijiEN at their strongest time slots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:00:19 No.22259125 Report

Quoted By: >>22259576

>>22258968
If it makes you feel any better, her last name (Takanashi) is spelt the same way that Kiara's is.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:00:27 No.22259133 Report

Quoted By: >>22259365 >>22259370 >>22259402 >>22259422 >>22260475

Nature is healing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:00:49 No.22259153 Report

Quoted By: >>22259212 >>22259302

>>22258898
>mold them into an environment people want to join and be a part of.
I thought the problem was they were accepting too many shitters?
Hololive and Nijisanji aren't struggling to find people to apply.

Don't believe the bullshit in these threads about the brand being devalued. It's not devalued because people don't care about the shitters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:02:09 No.22259205 Report

Quoted By: >>22259328 >>22259370 >>22259444

>>22258799
> Edengumi were the last JPs to get 2.0
Okay now I REALLY want to know why Ranunculus didn't get 2.0 models right off the bat.
If every single Niji already had the 2.0, the "favoritism" rrat doesn't fly, so what the fuck is their excuse?
> raffle for 3.0
oh god... I kinda get that it's to avoid favoritism again but jesus christ at least do it with the talents who voluntarily want to try the 3.0...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:02:26 No.22259212 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259153
By people I mean the audience. The feeling of wanting to be a part of the "nijisanji family" rather than just "I watch Kuzuha". If someone isn't streaming you watch someone else rather than fucking off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:02:35 No.22259219 Report

Quoted By:

Honestly ID3 as shown us how insane post debut un culled sub growth is in Hololive if EN 3 is not culled then i could easily see them catching to up to Mysta and Vox

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:03:22 No.22259244 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258968
I get these types of recommendations all the time. I actually feel kind of bad that I never click on them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:03:54 No.22259302 Report

Quoted By: >>22259368 >>22259374 >>22259470 >>22260447

>>22259153
Hololive, at least based on Stars EN, are struggling to find quality applicants.
Nijisanji never had this problem though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:04:26 No.22259328 Report

Quoted By: >>22259429 >>22259813

>>22259205
Because EVERYONE begins with 1.0. Every single person. Edengumi did. They recently got 2.0. Next is Ranunununu.
>jesus christ at least do it with the talents who voluntarily want to try the 3.0
Kuzuha is an exception, he's had outfit reveals that were over a year overdue because he simply didn't feel like doing it. Everyone else showcased their 3.0 when they got it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:04:29 No.22259332 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259112
? 7k > 2,5k

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:04:33 No.22259335 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258511
>>22258843
... wait seriously? did the VSPO girls manage to get away with having sleepovers with males? god damn, has Japan really changed that much?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:05:10 No.22259365 Report

Quoted By: >>22259402

>>22259133
the bully won in the end...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:05:18 No.22259368 Report

Quoted By: >>22259459

>>22259302
Their level of standard is different, anon.
Don't forget Nijisanji hired Nina.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:05:19 No.22259370 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259133
I don’t know what’s more pathetic, thinking you got bullied by a retarded onion, or actually being weak enough to get bullied by her.
>>22259205
Probably some “they haven’t earned it yet” horseshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:05:23 No.22259374 Report

Quoted By: >>22259420

>>22259302
Seeing as NijiEN needed to hire a woman to round up their 10 man roster, I think the EN male pool just kinda sucks.
Holostars is also a cursed brand lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:06:02 No.22259396 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258597
Aqua being aggressive as hell and having good chatter/bants with her teammates makes her perspective very entertaining. Camping and having literally 1 minute of action every 30 minutes is why most of the participants ccv are crap.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:06:06 No.22259402 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259133
>>22259365
I can't believe she got away with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:06:28 No.22259420 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259374
The success of Hololive needs to be offset somehow. Stars are the necessary sacrifice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:06:29 No.22259422 Report

Quoted By: >>22259543

>>22259133
This is sort of interesting. Some people will probably keep her forever out of nostalgia or loyalty but a lot of people should unsub after say, a year, just from regular sub maintenance. We'll get too see how many "dead subs" she has. My guess is almost all of them. Maybe there's 100k active youtube users amongst that. The rest are bots, abandoned accounts ect, the kind of detritus any big youtuber tends to pick up the larger they get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:06:36 No.22259429 Report

Quoted By: >>22259541

>>22259328
Imagine if hololive debuted the new talents with this 1.0 version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHvjCZZ3xL8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:06:50 No.22259444 Report

Quoted By: >>22259496 >>22259575 >>22259650 >>22260273

>>22259205
Because
>muh tradition and seniority shit.
Nijisanji is a fucking hypocrite, they expect new livers to test their might against the raid boss known as Hololive right out of the bat yet doesn't give them many buff at all.
In fact Ranunculus was saddled with debuff after debuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:07:18 No.22259459 Report

Quoted By: >>22259656

>>22259368
>Their level of standard is different, anon.
> Looks at HolostarsJP
> Looks at Manjisanji
Honestly, looks like Nijisanji has higher standards for males because most of Holostars is boring as fuck. Can't even say they were hired for singing either since half of them don't sing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:07:33 No.22259470 Report

Quoted By: >>22259511

>>22259302
Njji just takes whatever, they don't really have a quality "floor" so to speak. If they need 5 people, and 5 people apply, they're good to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:08:03 No.22259496 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259444
I feel bad for the girls mainly because Anycolor thought it was a good idea to debut them during Holofes.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:08:11 No.22259506 Report

Quoted By: >>22263681

Hololive and friends is just too strong.
I think it was a huge mistake for Nijisanji management to soft ban Hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:08:18 No.22259511 Report

Quoted By: >>22259585 >>22259651 >>22259660

>>22259470
I still can't believe that Noctyx is literally a Luxiem reject.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:08:55 No.22259541 Report

Quoted By: >>22259702

>>22259429
No wonder she was blowing random dudes for extra streaming gear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:08:57 No.22259543 Report

Quoted By: >>22259704

>>22259422
>just from regular sub maintenance.
Anon, that is just straight up not a thing.
There is literally 0 incentive to unsub from a dead channel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:09:44 No.22259575 Report

Quoted By: >>22259654

>>22259444
>Ranunculus
how are they doing these days?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:09:44 No.22259576 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259001
>>22259084
Okay fine I opened it and she's actually pretty damn good, time to groom her and with all of /#/'s patented techniques she'll incline to the moon
>>22259125
She's been going since before Kiara debuted though (and still only has 1.6k subs ouch)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:09:54 No.22259585 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259511
And Covid got the hand me down model from LAM (who also did Vox's design)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:10:19 No.22259614 Report

Quoted By:

I'm going to FUCK vspo schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:11:03 No.22259650 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259444
Nijisanji prioritized one upping Holofes instead of helping their new recruits grow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:11:04 No.22259651 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259511
You can think of it that way, or call them the runners up. Someone had to get 6th-9th in the auditions. Or maybe even lower, if some of the others didn't accept Nijis callbacks after they already got turned down or bailed after seeing the models they were supposed to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:11:04 No.22259654 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259575
Yotsuha is a 1k, Amagase 700, and Ponto with 500

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:11:06 No.22259656 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259459
Comparing anyone to holostars is a moot point when even kanae's dance teacher made a better vtuber than guys who applied to be idols (blue guy in neoporte)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:11:10 No.22259660 Report

Quoted By: >>22259799 >>22259837

>>22259511
Luxiem and Noctyx are all from the same batch of applicants.
It's more like luck that all the good ones ended up in Luxiem and the shitters got assigned to Noctyx.
Altho with Noctyx's aggressive anti-numberfag tendencies, even if they got Luxiem's skin, they might have never blown up with the Zhangs and EN horse race doesn't even exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:12:13 No.22259702 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259541
that's the life of an indie

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:12:15 No.22259704 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259543
I do it occasionally, I don't need to have like 200 subs or whatever. Not everyone is ok with clutter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:14:27 No.22259799 Report

Quoted By: >>22259925 >>22260044

>>22259660
>EN horse race doesn't even exist.
Does it really exist even now? April EN gold isn't much of a race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:14:39 No.22259813 Report

Quoted By: >>22259903 >>22259911 >>22260086

>>22259328
NTA but debuting talents with 1.0 live2d is such a fucking dumbass move. Seriously. FBK and the rest of Gen 1 didn't give a fuck that Gen 5 debuted with better rigging. Are you saying that Nijis OG wave would throw a hissy fit if every new recruit didn't start out with a 1.0 avatar

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:14:57 No.22259829 Report

Quoted By: >>22260345

Vspo girls like Lisa has considerably inclined in the past few months. I still remember when she was a 1k view shitter but now she could easily dominate the strongest NijiEN members.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:15:05 No.22259837 Report

Quoted By: >>22259968

>>22259660
It's not luck, they only planned 1 immediate wave and those were Luxiem. That's why they're the best and most successful and have good models. Noctyx is a cash grab they made after Luxiem blew up. Called back the rejects and gave them some quick and dirty models and hoped for the best.

With Lazulight and Obsydia, hired from the same auditions, they mixed strong and weak streamers between the waves to keep it balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:16:25 No.22259903 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259813
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:16:35 No.22259911 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259813
Nijisanji is riddled with these kinds of stupid "rules" and formalities.
rather ironic given that they're know for their freedom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:17:01 No.22259925 Report

Quoted By: >>22260003

>>22259799
Just because HoloEN wins most days doesn't mean it's not a race.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:17:56 No.22259968 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259837
>they mixed strong and weak streamers between the waves to keep it balanced
all of them are shitter tho?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:18:23 No.22259995 Report

Quoted By:

Ah, peace

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:18:38 No.22260003 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259925
The only ones who could challenge HoloEN are on a different platform.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:19:32 No.22260044 Report

Quoted By: >>22260136 >>22260139 >>22260257 >>22261529

>>22259799
The EN gold faggotry was started by a cumbud who wanted Gura to win something every day and now it's permanently fucked the thread by giving massively undeserved attention to the Luxiem faggots, (You) too anon can save /#/ but only by not discussing EN gold and telling anyone who does to kill themselves!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:20:36 No.22260086 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259813
Nijisanji will never be able to develop new stars because the cliques there is very prevalent. After all, reducing competition is paramount for the old guards to secure their financial stability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:21:54 No.22260136 Report

Quoted By: >>22260331

>>22260044
no matter how many times you post this, the first mention of "EN gold" won't change to be about gura
>>14365087

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:21:56 No.22260139 Report

Quoted By: >>22260331

>>22260044
you keep trying to push this angle, it wasn't true then and still isn't true now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:23:48 No.22260208 Report

Quoted By:

Ina 10k

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:24:04 No.22260215 Report

Quoted By: >>22260252 >>22260516

Has any nijiEN sang Virtual to Live yet? That's one of the sad thing about them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:24:27 No.22260229 Report

Quoted By:

Ina easy 10k without overlap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:24:53 No.22260252 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260215
I don't think so?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:24:55 No.22260257 Report

Quoted By: >>22260332 >>22260337

>>22260044
Cumbud here, I wanted Likes Gold because Gura always wins that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:25:16 No.22260273 Report

Quoted By: >>22260425 >>22260646

>>22259444
How the fuck do they have all the burdens of the "traditional Japanese company" bureaucracy but at the same time give out that tone-deaf apology with Lauren?
It just doesn't compute.
I don't think it's all tradition (have never heard of livers talking about 1.0 vs 2.0 models), there has to be something else.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:26:25 No.22260331 Report

Quoted By: >>22260442 >>22260454 >>22260565

>>22260136
>>22260139
Yeah I'm sure he's a nijinigger, what a nice picture of Vox he posted!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:26:28 No.22260332 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260257
Imagine getting 65k likes on non-3D live lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r12ApuXBpPM

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:26:33 No.22260337 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260257
Anons won't be able to accept how dominant our oshi is. They will crumble when they see 20k+ likes every stream. The kneeling WILL happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:26:41 No.22260345 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259829
>strongest NijiEN members
>Females

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:28:23 No.22260411 Report

Quoted By: >>22260597

Friend....

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:28:41 No.22260425 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260273
The burden is not with the corporate itsself but to the fans. Like with VtL, Anycolor doesn't give a fuck but the fans absolutely lost their shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:28:51 No.22260434 Report

Quoted By:

>ctrl+f "Elden" for Holos
>1/22
>ctrl+f "Elden" for Nijis
>1/4
Roru rumao

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:29:00 No.22260442 Report

Quoted By: >>22260596

>>22260331
i mean...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:29:10 No.22260447 Report

Quoted By: >>22260507 >>22260534 >>22260586

>>22259302
Yagoo just need to scout and dig the SoundCloud for animu rappers, or some utaite who's also into streaming. Should they test the market with StarsID first?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:29:21 No.22260454 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260331
>by a cumbud who wanted Gura to win something every day
>Gura completely absent
Strange

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:29:56 No.22260475 Report

Quoted By: >>22260554

>>22259133
crazy how they were able to cut her off so cleanly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:30:31 No.22260507 Report

Quoted By: >>22260621

>>22260447
It's too late, Stars EN is coming already, there is no time for testing anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:30:50 No.22260516 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260215
they obviously aren't worthy of singing the great Niji anthem just yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:31:03 No.22260534 Report

Quoted By: >>22260686

>>22260447
>rapper
you want another wigger? one is enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:31:12 No.22260539 Report

Quoted By: >>22260616 >>22261066 >>22261316

I think the real reason why Nijisanji has declined a lot is because of clips like these that are readily available to the masses. Most of Nijisanji's talents just ain't pretty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM3JeFLCJzQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:31:32 No.22260554 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260475
She did her best to make it super easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:31:45 No.22260565 Report

Quoted By: >>22260724 >>22260747

>>22260331
Didn't they literally fudge one of the days so Gura wouldn't get a gold?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:32:14 No.22260586 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260447
maybe he can get that one Calvin dude into StarsEN, his songs were pretty nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:32:34 No.22260596 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260442
I could not believe that was real at the time. I thought it was a shitpost

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:32:34 No.22260597 Report

Quoted By: >>22260699

>>22260411
Yeah she's went back to mediocrity. Mind you, FBK hit 100k subs/month in that month of December, and now she's sitting at a nice, comfy, extra small 10k/month. And the numbers clearly reflect that also.

But if I'm to be honest, I think a lot of HoloJP is reclining. The upper tier are still going strong (Pekora/Aqua/Marine/Korone/Subaru) but the rest? I feel like apart from maybe Mio, everyone else is just super fucking inconsistent. So many lukewarm streams that happen out of people recently

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:32:57 No.22260616 Report

Quoted By: >>22260855

>>22260539
can you fuck off, when did this thread become a nijisanji gossip thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:32:58 No.22260618 Report

Quoted By: >>22260719

This game Ina's is playing seems incredibly boring, and this is from someone who will play a map painter strategy game for like 8 hours straight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:33:02 No.22260621 Report

Quoted By: >>22260743

>>22260507
What taking them so long? I don't think they should go only for big names and big numbers because see: Reimu's PL. It doesn't translate. Better dig for rough diamonds. Search a rapper who's better than Mori

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:33:05 No.22260623 Report

Quoted By: >>22260761

I can't believe Ina is getting 10k with this game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:33:26 No.22260646 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260273
It's to dissuade certain liver's usually a senior fans from feeling discriminated
>My oshi debuted with 1.0 yet these newcomers get 2.0 for free
or something like that.
Niji fans while more diverse and normies than the standard otakus that makes majority of Holo fans, but they are also more rabid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:33:34 No.22260654 Report

Quoted By:

This game is autism prime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:33:36 No.22260655 Report

Quoted By: >>22260954

>doxnigger videos posted
/#/ keeps sinking to new lows

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:34:23 No.22260686 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260534
Her music sucks with rap or no rap

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:34:39 No.22260699 Report

Quoted By: >>22260742

>>22260597
I agree sister. They should cut the dead weight and accelerate so we get Gen 7 and 8 by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:34:42 No.22260703 Report

Quoted By:

>>22256871
Maybe watch it because she's been talking almost the entire time despite saying she wouldn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:34:46 No.22260707 Report

Quoted By:

>>22257390
Find underserved niches, and cater to them, it worked for VSPO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:35:03 No.22260719 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260618
To be fair, she's spread about 3 mins of gameplay over 35 minutes. This is a zatsu with shit in the background

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:35:11 No.22260724 Report

Quoted By: >>22260865

>>22260565
No the opposite, he fudged it so Gura beat whichever one of the faggots it was

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:35:43 No.22260742 Report

Quoted By: >>22260853

>>22260699
The Niji special... We'll finally have idols that even the Niji females can compete with!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:35:44 No.22260743 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260621
Seems like not enough qualified people applied. If they don't get any this round they probably will have to give in and lower their standards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:35:45 No.22260747 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260565
no. the only thing like that was when there was confusion on the cut off point

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:35:56 No.22260761 Report

Quoted By: >>22260825 >>22260840 >>22260956

>>22260623
11K actually. Her core fanbase would listen to her organize her closet on stream after a week break

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:37:35 No.22260825 Report

Quoted By: >>22260881 >>22260884 >>22260899

>>22260761
>Her core fanbase would listen to her organize her closet on stream after a week break
This is true for most Holos.
Random shit like this gives better numbers than playing debuff games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:37:54 No.22260840 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260761
>Ina gets 10k no matter the game she plays
>Vox audience never gives him the time of the day when he just wants to play games
Milord....

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:38:05 No.22260853 Report

Quoted By: >>22260939 >>22261001

>>22260742
How many gens would hololive have to churn out, and how fast, to actually hit nijifemale averages?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:38:08 No.22260855 Report

Quoted By: >>22261007

>>22260616
It always was

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:38:20 No.22260865 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260724
Nah, they changed the cut off to deny Gura a gold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:38:45 No.22260881 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260825
>Random shit like this gives better numbers
Never forget Gura kept gaining viewers while silently doing autism vaccuuming on Luigi's Mansion 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:38:48 No.22260884 Report

Quoted By: >>22260918

>>22260825
I would argue Potion Craft is a huge debuff game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:39:19 No.22260899 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260825
Chloe got above her average viewers cleaning her room in the middle of the night

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:39:27 No.22260907 Report

Quoted By:

wow thanks youtube

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:39:45 No.22260918 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260884
it's new (to vtubers at least) so it's not as big of a debuff as it could be

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:39:59 No.22260925 Report

Quoted By:

2k gone in 30 seconds

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:40:23 No.22260939 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260853
If they did like +20 in 2 years it would probably push a decent amount of them down into Choco/Aki/Mel territory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:40:43 No.22260954 Report

Quoted By: >>22261106

>>22260655
/#/ is a containment thread for the worst fucking people on this board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:40:45 No.22260956 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260761
you jinxed it, susanwhore must have heard you and crashed her numbers out of sudden

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:41:28 No.22260986 Report

Quoted By: >>22261030

Susan really hates vtubers huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:41:46 No.22261001 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260853
Gens is a weird quantifier, but if Holo does what Niji did in 2020, as in debuting 25+ chuubas they sure as shit would see their ccv hit rock bottom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:42:01 No.22261004 Report

Quoted By: >>22261039 >>22261325

Man thank god Susan identified a new batch of spam viewers

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:42:05 No.22261007 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260855
nah it was never this bad, this thread always had a mixture of topics but now everytime i come here anons always seem to be talking about nijien and some random faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:42:30 No.22261030 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260986
Too mad that cute anime girls beat her boytoy everytime

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:42:45 No.22261039 Report

Quoted By:

>>22261004
lel, gachis tuning it to their oshi streams count as bots for Susan

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:43:16 No.22261066 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260539
>Seanig looking creatura
Is that kuzuha's real face? Wtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:43:55 No.22261106 Report

Quoted By: >>22261507

>>22260954
Feels like every day we keep picking up new and worse schizos, I just want to stare at charts all day I never asked for this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:45:12 No.22261170 Report

Quoted By: >>22261216 >>22261221 >>22261244

This Ina potion stream is doing way better than the first ~45 minutes of her Elden Ring streams go viewer wise. Interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:46:23 No.22261216 Report

Quoted By: >>22261288

>>22261170
Return buff, if this was ER it would probably be 12-13k.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:46:34 No.22261221 Report

Quoted By: >>22261333

>>22261170
Back up over 11k? The hell was that dip? Nothing on stream to explain it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:46:58 No.22261244 Report

Quoted By:

>>22261170
New and lore-related

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:47:56 No.22261288 Report

Quoted By:

>>22261216
>12-13k
not off the table yet, she returned to 11k pretty fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:48:24 No.22261316 Report

Quoted By:

>>22260539
>iinchou
dios mío, el abominación

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:48:27 No.22261318 Report

Quoted By:

Dudul already past 111K views on Twitter, 40K Youtube on his last animation. Nice. The cycle of algorithm dominance continues

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:48:36 No.22261325 Report

Quoted By:

>>22261004
Rope status?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:48:49 No.22261333 Report

Quoted By:

>>22261221
susan'd

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:51:11 No.22261455 Report

Quoted By: >>22261612

>>22258799
>3.0 is by raffle
kek, WTF!?

Is 3.0 even expensive now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:52:32 No.22261507 Report

Quoted By:

>>22261106
The key is to remember that literally none of this matters. The charts here are a small fraction of relevant data that can mean a hundred different things. CCV is no more important than other metrics of success even though people like to most lists of it here. All of it is ultimately just a distraction for some of the most obnoxious schizos on /vt/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:52:57 No.22261529 Report

Quoted By: >>22261653

>>22260044
EN gold is fine and you faggots constantly complaining about it is more annoying than the tally could ever be. This isn't your fucking hug box. If you onlh want to discuss your precious grorious nippon chuubas /hlg/ is still active on /jp/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:53:32 No.22261556 Report

Quoted By: >>22261700 >>22261834

after losing to a girl talking about fruits Luxiem will lose to another girl talking about potions

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:54:53 No.22261612 Report

Quoted By: >>22261742

>>22261455
At least 7k

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:55:56 No.22261653 Report

Quoted By: >>22261703

>>22261529
>This isn't your fucking hug box
He says while celebrating giving out consolation trophies to 13k shitters lmfao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:57:21 No.22261700 Report

Quoted By:

>>22261556
this is just pitiful.. if I were them, I'd do a karaoke or another off-collab to snag a gold

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:57:23 No.22261703 Report

Quoted By: >>22261873

>>22261653
Yeah and? It's numbers so its on topic. You just don't like it because you worship Japan like a sad weeb. Like I said, /jp/ still exists.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:58:48 No.22261742 Report

Quoted By: >>22261781

>>22261612
Come on Anycolor! Half the boys will pay a multiple of that on their bday superchat 35% cut alone!

Stop being cheapskates, bite the bullet and give it to everyone above a subs threshold (let’s say, 250k) and raffle for the rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 21:59:56 No.22261781 Report

Quoted By: >>22261860

>>22261742
The problem lies with fans, not with ANycolor itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:01:12 No.22261834 Report

Quoted By:

>>22261556
These potions… they’re simply too strong for these homos…

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:01:47 No.22261860 Report

Quoted By: >>22262559

>>22261781
The 3.0? 100% with Anycolor.

I get that for 3D and 2.0 there is the seniority tradition but a raffle that gives Hajime before Kanae is dumb as fuck as opposed to “everyone gets it on reaching 250k subs” and “even if you’re below you can get it on a raffle

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:02:08 No.22261873 Report

Quoted By:

>>22261703

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:14:40 No.22262322 Report

Quoted By: >>22262374 >>22262549 >>22263201 >>22263816

>Toko 10k
I'm starting to think that schizo that says
>Niji shouldn't have isolated themselves from Holo after the chinkout
has a point, I don't know...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:15:07 No.22262330 Report

Quoted By:

>>22257305
People really want Minecraft arc to return huh? The thing is, there is nothing left to do in the server.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:15:56 No.22262361 Report

Quoted By: >>22262468 >>22262528 >>22262587 >>22262641 >>22262716 >>22262757 >>22262817

Decided to monitor Pekora’s ER streams and was quite surprised from the numbers of her latest stream. We’ve reached the slowdown point of processing already and with 330k views over a 5 hour long stream, we can surmise that the series, despite having high CCV, is actually not attracting any outsiders. This is one of the weirdest cases since you’d think Pekora would have a sizable fanbase that’s been waiting for this, but this is almost Subaru-esque where you have this devoted fanbase ready to watch in an instant, but crumble on the outside with no one to show for.

To sort of understand, compare to Mori’s Elden Ring that was streamed at the same time as her:
https://youtu.be/QM1Y_9zXGAo
Pekora currently has double the views as Mori, but here’s the catch: Pekora had TRIPLE the average ccv and TRIPLE the peak. And yet, despite that, Mori is actually putting up solid numbers. (Mori averaged 6.8k ccv for the stream, so you know)

I’m curious as to where this series ends up, but it’s actually pretty disappointing to see. It felt like a pretty hyped up series for Pekora but this is starting to trend down to “ccv and nothing else”

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:16:17 No.22262371 Report

Quoted By: >>22262416 >>22262418

>12 minutes without a post
Finally we had peace...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:16:24 No.22262374 Report

Quoted By: >>22262616

>>22262322
Toko morning streams are really strong. They have been consistent as fuck just like AsaMio is for Holo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:17:25 No.22262416 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262371
/#/ is declining...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:17:28 No.22262418 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262371
Now we have piss

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:18:34 No.22262468 Report

Quoted By: >>22262531

>>22262361
yes anon, peko sucks cause her vods don't get your random standard and she should graduate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:20:12 No.22262528 Report

Quoted By: >>22262795 >>22262970

>>22262361
>Over 300k vod is disappointing for a game that by now has been played to hell

the numberrot never ceases to impress me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:20:15 No.22262531 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262468
?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:20:40 No.22262549 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262322
he's just as right as the eldenschizo was right

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:20:50 No.22262559 Report

Quoted By:

>>22261860
Maybe to them it is not all about the numbers. Also why shouldn't they support their smaller streamers so they can do better? There simply is no solution that makes everyone happy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:21:16 No.22262583 Report

Quoted By: >>22262803

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvnQJZnnXXo
Prediction ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:21:23 No.22262587 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262361
Why haven't you killed yourself already
Also learn to summarize you schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:21:57 No.22262616 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262374
But Toko is actually entertaining. Mio gets her viewers because of hag sex design and holobuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:22:30 No.22262641 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262361
Lmfao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:22:44 No.22262649 Report

Quoted By: >>22262703

Oh hey it's the guy who writes paragraphs about Gura's VODs, now he's shitting on Pekora now there's a surprise...

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:24:10 No.22262703 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262649
no, you see, he's just honestly interested about numbers and just posting them, just because, without any intention or implication whatsoever, and you have to believe him when he tells you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:24:26 No.22262716 Report

Quoted By: >>22262771 >>22262840 >>22263065

>>22262361
Meanwhile Gura's Elden Ring VOD is at 800k views. There is no way that Pekora is even close to Gura, lets be honest here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:25:35 No.22262757 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262361
anon you're multiple levels of retarded today

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:25:56 No.22262771 Report

Quoted By: >>22262840 >>22262935

>>22262716
I mean its well known that Gura is the VOD queen of vtubers, there is no one who comes close to her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:26:36 No.22262795 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262528
For an over 5 hour stream that had 25k+ viewers for a lot of the time? Yeah, that's fairly low anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:26:48 No.22262803 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262583
Hee, Holos don't really have a good track record covering Cinderella, the best cover out there is Pekora with 2.5M views, then Aqua with 1.5M views, then the sub 1M cover with Polka, Matsuri and Reine, and none are sounding particularly great. Now, it's probably getting to 1M in a month at worse, because Kiara's cover have been consistantly hitting at least that, and she went for the remix instead of the original version, so she may perform better than the rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:27:01 No.22262817 Report

Quoted By: >>22263007

>>22262361
>but it’s actually pretty disappointing to see
Considering her constant recline, it's actually great. No one should put high expectations on her anymore, Aqua is the one carrying JP now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:27:28 No.22262840 Report

Quoted By: >>22262964

there you go vod schizo, what you wanted

>>22262716
>>22262771

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:30:07 No.22262935 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262771
Makes sense since JP fans are all in the same time zone, so they can watch together. Meanwhile, EN fans are spread around the world, EU and SEA fans can't really catch Gooba's streams live during their night time and have to watch the VOD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:30:50 No.22262964 Report

Quoted By: >>22262996

>>22262840
No that particular schizo but that chart that tracks 1M streams is pretty straightforwards. Take out music and shorts and it's basically Gura as Mount Everest and a bunch of hills

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:30:56 No.22262970 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262528
That’s extremely low, anon. A little over 300k for a 5 hour long stream from the most popular holo on JP is low. We’ve already seen this very same trend with Sekiro and Ark. Pekora’s insistence on spamming a game down, for whatever reason, has a deeply glaring effect on her views that isn’t replicated nearly as much by anyone else.

And for Elden Ring, everyone who’s played it in Holo has already shown pretty consistent views throughout. I’m sorry anon but views don’t lie. If they don’t fall in places you expect, especially when you have knowledge of other cases already, it’s pretty easy to point it out.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:31:18 No.22262981 Report

Quoted By:

potion seller, im heading into battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:31:43 No.22262996 Report

Quoted By: >>22263093

>>22262964
no, what i mean is that he posted it entirely so people would shit on peko and suck gura's dick, his contributions are fucking useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:32:01 No.22263007 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262817
Shitposts aside the fact that top Holos can recline and another can pick up the slack is a point of strength, not weakness. If Kuzeha ever takes time off Niji will barely chart. Pekora, Marine, Fubuki, Aqua, Subaru can all get on a hot streak at any given time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:33:32 No.22263065 Report

Quoted By: >>22263241

>>22262716
I don't think anyone would argue with that. At this point, only Aqua can be compared to Gura.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:34:23 No.22263093 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262996
This thread really loves to timeloop, no surprise he is doing this because it's always works

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:37:28 No.22263201 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262322
She managed to find time slot for herself and started to stream regularly there. Such regular streaming is not something she done before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:38:23 No.22263239 Report

Quoted By: >>22263401 >>22263439 >>22263564

Is VOD views over 24 hours a better metric than CCV? EN can never deploy their entire fanbase at the same time the way JP does every day. CCV is biased towards one time zone, one language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:38:28 No.22263241 Report

Quoted By: >>22263436

>>22263065
Aqua at this point for sure can be comparable to Gura in vods. No matter if it’s apex, the numbers don’t lie. She’s getting great ccv everywhere and her apex vods are huge. Someone else is Marine. This could be due to the scarcity of her streaming habits but she tends to have both great viewership and a lot of fans who catch up on watching her vods. I’d say these 3 have it the best right now, everyone else is either too inconsistent (Pekora) or flat out just out of the picture entirely.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:38:54 No.22263260 Report

it's over holobros. time for the actual MC incline

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:40:51 No.22263347 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
The final yab

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:41:07 No.22263355 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
Tribalfags, don't look!

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:42:19 No.22263401 Report

Quoted By: >>22263436

>>22263239
You don’t even have to go so far as 24 hours. It definitely helps ENs case, but processing views seem to be incredibly exaggerated by anons. If it was confirmed by youtube in the past that it’s supposed to finish up in 24-48 hours, I’d be confident in saying that they stealth fixed those issues because out of the months of manual tracking I’ve done, “processed” views tend to finish within the first 8-12 hours, and I’m honestly pushing it. JP vods are typically done in 4-6 hours from what I’ve seen, where someone like Gura/Mori finish up by 6-8. But the extra hours do help in getting the extra views

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:42:36 No.22263419 Report

Quoted By: >>22263702

>>22263260
but did it affect her numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:42:59 No.22263433 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
Friend is a friend of everyone, out of curiosity did that tweet bring any viewers to the stream?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:43:02 No.22263436 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263241
>>22263401
kys

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:43:04 No.22263439 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263239
Eh they represent different things and both have their uses. It's worth remembering, though, Youtube only pays you for one of them.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:43:13 No.22263442 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
lolwut

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:43:32 No.22263457 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
isn't holojp colab a lot with niji, that's not even surprising news, if the one that;ll be collabing is holoen now that spicy news

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:44:49 No.22263511 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
Tribalfags quick! Tweet the discord leak!

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:44:57 No.22263522 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
Nijibros, Friend doesn't even see us as a threat... she's laughing at us and throwing us table scraps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:45:17 No.22263540 Report

Quoted By: >>22263595

>>22263260
is she fucking stupid

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:45:35 No.22263554 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
FBK also retweeted Fauna kareoke the other day, seems she likes to watch EN vtubers around this time of day.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:45:51 No.22263564 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263239
>Is VOD views over 24 hours a better metric than CCV?
If you could consistently measure the VOD views at the exact 24 hours after the start of the stream, it wouldn't be better or worse but a very good new metric to numberfag.

Funnily enough I already have the tools to do it but without a third party site measuring it, it wouldn't be independently verifiable and, hence, not really a good thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:46:21 No.22263583 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
huh, weird, i guess she really just tweets whatever she's watching and watches anything she sees.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:46:32 No.22263589 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
she probably saw the difference in numbers and felt a little pity

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:46:40 No.22263595 Report

Quoted By: >>22263717

>>22263540
kys tribalnigger

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:46:53 No.22263609 Report

Quoted By: >>22263662 >>22263686

btw, for the fbk tweet, she’s just tweeting out streams happening in EN right now she shared Koyori and Ina’s stream right afterwards.

But also fuck her

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:47:22 No.22263630 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
SHOW ME THE NUMBERS GRAPH NOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:47:59 No.22263662 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263609
why are globalfags like this, stop embarrassing yourself

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:48:16 No.22263681 Report

Quoted By:

>>22259506
Damn, Hololive is very strong.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:48:21 No.22263686 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263609
Picrel for anyone not on twitter

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:48:23 No.22263688 Report

Quoted By: >>22264768 >>22264772

>>22263260
Heh feels like noblesse oblige. Somehow I don't see Kanae tweeting about Fauna's streams but who knows?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:48:39 No.22263702 Report

Quoted By: >>22263784 >>22263840 >>22264038

>>22263419
No. Worth noting she did the same with Koyori and Ina streams.

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:48:40 No.22263707 Report

Quoted By: >>22263977 >>22264407

WELLLLL NUMBERFAGS!?!
>why are Chloe and Roberu the most patrician pickers of the whole bunch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:48:50 No.22263717 Report

Quoted By: >>22263929

>>22263595
there's not infinite vtuber watchers, it's a fucking niche, don't advertise your fucking competition

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:49:17 No.22263740 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
Dropped

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:49:29 No.22263744 Report

Quoted By:

>>22258262
I think Matsuri got 1k a hour a her last endurance stream in January

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:50:12 No.22263784 Report

Quoted By: >>22263870 >>22263875

>>22263702
why are ina's graphs always so freakishly flat

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:50:51 No.22263815 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
either drunk or retarded

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:50:51 No.22263816 Report

Quoted By:

>>22262322
It's also a good stream at the right time.
Not information or story heavy like many of the other morning streams now.
Just a light zatau with a lot of banter and giggles to greet people 'good morning ' or 'take care' on their way to work.

But i don't think it would have gotten this many viewers if she hasn't already started att attracting NA folk, both with the Holo and NijiEN interactions.

Pretty sure none of the others that regularly stream at this hour have lost a significant number of viewers since Toko started.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:51:17 No.22263840 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263702
Good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:51:54 No.22263870 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263784
>Ina is flat
>Graph is flat
>Ass is giant
God that’s hot…

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:51:57 No.22263875 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263784
The ultimate pun

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:53:03 No.22263929 Report

Quoted By: >>22264005 >>22264434

>>22263717
Friend collabs with Nijis from time to time still, it's only EN subhumans that have this retarded console war mentality

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:54:04 No.22263977 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263707
>Polka didn't list Chainsaw Man after pimping it for 2 years
The fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:54:51 No.22264005 Report

Quoted By: >>22264511

>>22263929
It feels like an all out war right now
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:55:42 No.22264038 Report

Quoted By: >>22264150

>>22263702
don't know if the changes to asakoyo were good, sometimes she got her peak during the last 10 mins and now that the show lasts like 40 mins it doesn't get there and now she's tanking her average with separate sc streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:58:27 No.22264150 Report

Quoted By:

>>22264038
Average doesn't exist outside of here so who cares

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:59:31 No.22264192 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263260
FRIEND, NOOOOO!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 22:59:38 No.22264198 Report

Quoted By: >>22264296 >>22264385

Are Ina's numbers like this because it's her first solo stream in a while, or are they always like this for just ordinary streams?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:01:58 No.22264296 Report

Quoted By: >>22264661

>>22264198
Ever since Elden Ring, Ina’s been on a noticeable incline. I’ve showed stats here before, but the general gist is that she’s managed to turn essentially any stream into a 11k+ affair. Even her drawing streams have inclined from the typical 9-10k up to 11-12k. She’s just been a really great, consistent streamer.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:03:53 No.22264384 Report

Quoted By: >>22264652 >>22264974 >>22265062

So would it be worth it for Millie to try something new like pre-recorded asmr? Some of her ASMR vods are on par with some of her game streams. Even her current 3 hour stream only got 17k~ views total.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:03:54 No.22264385 Report

Quoted By:

>>22264198
Ina and to a certain degree Fauna seems to have both established and insanely high and consistent floor of people who will watch them do anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:04:19 No.22264407 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263707
Based shonenchad Shion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:04:59 No.22264434 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263929
Yes, NijiENs are sub-humans. Why is friend collabing with sub-humans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:06:43 No.22264511 Report

Quoted By:

>>22264005
Meanwhile Holo and Niji JP collabed literally hours ago lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:09:51 No.22264650 Report

Quoted By:

Fubuki retweeted Finana kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:09:52 No.22264652 Report

Quoted By:

>>22264384
Fuck off niji interns. Do your own homework.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:10:14 No.22264661 Report

Quoted By:

>>22264296
She's not streaming any games by Platinum (for now), so that's a positive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:12:37 No.22264768 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263688
which niji will friend demand prima nocta from

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:12:39 No.22264772 Report

Quoted By:

>>22263688
kanae is a narcissistic prick who only cares about himself anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:12:41 No.22264776 Report

Quoted By: >>22264858

Finana is doing a conduit grind, no wonder Fubuki's gacha autism is activated

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:14:35 No.22264858 Report

Quoted By:

>>22264776
Dammit you gambling addict fox

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:15:00 No.22264868 Report

Quoted By: >>22264903 >>22265005

the chinks were right about fubuki

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:15:36 No.22264903 Report

Quoted By:

>>22264868
In what sense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:16:19 No.22264937 Report

Quoted By: >>22264989

>>22263260
Welp, time to become a Fubuki anti. I'm actually pissed off and cracked the screen of my phone spiking it into the ground out of anger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:17:06 No.22264974 Report

Quoted By:

>>22264384
that would require preparation and editing and millie just rolls with the flow

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:17:32 No.22264989 Report

Quoted By:

>>22264937
>time to become a Fubuki anti.
I'm with you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:17:36 No.22264994 Report

Quoted By:

You EN niggers have gone too fucking far now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:17:53 No.22265005 Report

Quoted By: >>22265094 >>22265189

>>22264868
No, Fubuki is not aware of the #vent.
No one telling her about it.
The screenshot is even translated to JP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:18:03 No.22265019 Report

Quoted By:

quit arguing with yourself, schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:18:44 No.22265062 Report

Quoted By: >>22265724

>>22264384
Unless Millie can write her own scripts, record, and edit the audio like Fauna does it's probably not worth the effort because pawning that stuff off to other people will cost a bunch of money, let alone finding people to do it in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:19:23 No.22265094 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265005
Eh it leaves the fish in the position of either ignoring it or gushing about Fubuki, reinforcing the natural order of things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:21:19 No.22265189 Report

Quoted By: >>22265257 >>22265354

>>22265005
she wasn't even in that screenshot though, was she?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:21:38 No.22265201 Report

Quoted By:

OH NO OH NO OH NO
HOLOBROS????
IS FUBUKI KNEELING TO LUXIEM COCK?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:22:54 No.22265257 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265189
Finana is the one comparing NijiEN to HoloJP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:23:57 No.22265308 Report

Quoted By: >>22265356 >>22265461 >>22265469

>>22263260
Did shw tweet out Ina's stream? Will she tweet out Gura's stream tonight? Fubuki os a fucking snake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:23:58 No.22265309 Report

Quoted By:

>22265201
this is the kind of post that reminds people of why trying to help small indies isnt alwasy a good idea.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:24:44 No.22265342 Report

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King number 1 on trending with less vods and ccv than aqua, kek

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:24:56 No.22265354 Report

Quoted By: >>22265416

>>22265189

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:24:59 No.22265356 Report

Quoted By: >>22265477

>>22265308
>Did shw tweet out Ina's stream?
Yes. Koyori's as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:26:18 No.22265416 Report

Quoted By: >>22265441

>>22265354
Do you have the JP translation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:26:37 No.22265432 Report

Quoted By: >>22265485 >>22265529 >>22265549

>>22263260
The people hating are missing the 4D chess move by Fubuki here. Fubuki knows that most of NijiEN's fans are chinks. Chinks fucking hate Fubuki. She is trying to sink the branch by attaching herself to it to drive the chinks away.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:26:54 No.22265441 Report

Quoted By: >>22265716

>>22265416

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:27:14 No.22265461 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265308
You ENiggers are as bad as chinks

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:27:25 No.22265469 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265308
RORU RUMAO
Even Fubuki knows HoloEN has reclined and is a lost cause
Based Fubuki for knowing who the real faces of Western Vtubing are
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Yagoo who told them to cozy up to Nijis especially after their back-to-back flops; Yagoo must really be desperate for money and he knows associating with Nijis is the only way to stay relevant

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:27:38 No.22265477 Report

Quoted By: >>22265651

>>22265356
Fuck off Nigger

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:27:43 No.22265485 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265432

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:28:29 No.22265529 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265432
Anon, feesh viewership is mostly SEA. Chink only watch Luxiem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:28:31 No.22265531 Report

Quoted By: >>22265608 >>22265644

>Fubuki tweets Finana's stream
>This is somehow bad
>The thread needs to be completely about it for the next hour

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:28:58 No.22265549 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265432
That's a weird cope. But NijiEN does have a fucking Zhang as one of it's directors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:29:29 No.22265586 Report

Quoted By: >>22265649 >>22265683

>>22263260
This tweet is exactly how you go from one of the most respected Holos to one of the most hated. I hope she dies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:29:49 No.22265608 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265531
Eh, it's rather surprising but we know how FBK feels about gacha.
Also wtf feesh? Not even a thank you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:30:01 No.22265615 Report

Quoted By:

>Aqua 19 kills 8,112 total dmg 3.2 kills/avg 1,352 avg dmg
>Towa 3 kills 3,664 total dmg 0.5 kills/avg 610.7 avg dmg
>Suisei 3 kills 6,53 total dmg 0.5 kills/avg 108.8 avg dmg

how do we save startend?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:30:46 No.22265644 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265531
EN newfaggots are fucking retards and have degraded this thread so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:30:50 No.22265649 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265586
kys zhang, FBK right or wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:30:54 No.22265651 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265477
So answering a question now triggers schizo? Lmao you're pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:31:28 No.22265683 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265586
t. insect

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:32:13 No.22265716 Report

Quoted By: >>22265776

>>22265441
Maybe someone should reply to FBK's tweet with this screenshot so she can make an informed decision.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:32:19 No.22265722 Report

Quoted By:

>anon samefagging as hysteric hololive fan and as cocky nijisanji EN fan
Very conspicuous.
>Now he'll screencap it and make a bait thread or post to some other threads as proof of the evil numbers thread

Joke is on him, that just makes the JunGang more feared and respected

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:32:24 No.22265724 Report

Quoted By: >>22265763 >>22265776 >>22265832 >>22265833 >>22265857 >>22265897 >>22265916 >>22265928

>>22265062
Literally anything Millie shits out would be better than whatever Fauna has considering Fauna's ASMR is garbage. She can adlib it while recording off stream and upload that without editing and it'll be fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:33:12 No.22265763 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265724
>THIS IS WHAT NIJIKEKS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:33:28 No.22265776 Report

Quoted By: >>22265816 >>22265837

>>22265716
Anon, she knows, trust me.

>>22265724
DYRBI

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:34:14 No.22265816 Report

Quoted By: >>22265880 >>22265949

>>22265776
The only thing Fauna has over Millie is gear

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:34:42 No.22265832 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265724
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:34:47 No.22265833 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265724
>Fallenshadow, I....

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:34:54 No.22265837 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265776
>trust me
Uh huh, and my dad works at Cover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:35:21 No.22265857 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265724
Millie is overrated. It's always the flips pushing her into any circle even after being criticized on how bad Millie is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:35:44 No.22265880 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265816
The absolute state of nijiniggers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:36:08 No.22265897 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265724
meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:36:32 No.22265916 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265724
when will nijis understand that the ''NIJIS ARE BETTER AT DOING THAT'' strategy will never work?

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:36:48 No.22265928 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265724

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:37:17 No.22265949 Report

Quoted By:

>>22265816
Millie asmr is...repetitive.
There's nothing wrong with that of course, it's just rather boring. Also the constant kiss sounds is really distracting sometimes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:37:21 No.22265953 Report

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>>22263260
Does she not know that she is retweeting the scumbags that insulted her co-workers?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 11 Apr 2022 23:38:01 No.22265981 Report

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How much do you think she's regretting not applying for holoID now?

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