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Mr. Riku Please...

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 04:43:18 No.23023276 View View Reply Original Report

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where's the main branch buff...
where's the re-intro buff...
taskete kudasai...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 04:52:16 No.23023991 Report

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>>23023276
pee pee poo poo jokes could only get you so far

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 04:56:00 No.23024256 Report

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I like to shit on nijiniggers because is funny but this is actually sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 04:56:57 No.23024326 Report

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even the homos get more views

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 05:03:00 No.23024779 Report

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>>23023276
>zoomer haircut
Good riddance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 05:08:43 No.23025257 Report

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>SEAnig
lmao, either speak nihongo or fuck off

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:13:58 No.23029431 Report

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>>23023276

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:19:51 No.23029703 Report

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>>23023276
>playing valorant
He deserves those shit views

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:22:11 No.23029804 Report

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cok 2 digit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:24:36 No.23029913 Report

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>>23023276
>sea
>male but not very good fujo bait
>hard gay IIRC
>has zoomer broccoli hair

Some people can't catch a break, he fell down the debuff tree and hit every branch on the way down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:25:29 No.23029958 Report

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>>23023276
>that number is considered good 3 years ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:28:22 No.23030094 Report

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Crazy how a literal half of the KR branch has graduated but not a single one in ID has, I don't think they're getting the hint

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:31:29 No.23030244 Report

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>>23029913
>>male but not very good fujo bait
This. His voice acting stream was the cringiest shit I've seen a vtuber put out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqBVeekLpAs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:32:38 No.23030295 Report

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>>23030094
Indos are happy to stream as a hobby. Koreans are East Asian so they must forget about any "distractions" the moment they get a proper job or get into college.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:34:09 No.23030363 Report

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>>23023276
I feel damn bad for IDbros, they really don't deserve the niji slow death. They are better off being indies or form their own corpo desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:37:26 No.23030511 Report

Quoted By: >>23030696

who the fuck watches valorant though?
also its a collab stream of course less people are watching, less interactions with the chuuba and a shared fanbase means theyre probably watching others pov

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:40:44 No.23030618 Report

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>>23030363
>they really don't deserve the niji slow death.
they're free to graduate and join the popular indo groups anytime with the amount of experience they got, but truth is half of nijiID are mediocre streamers that couldn't get anywhere even with the initial niji buff they had. Their sizable initial audience moved over to maha5 or other indies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:42:30 No.23030696 Report

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>>23030511
Would it surprise you that this was one of his better streams number wise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:45:12 No.23030836 Report

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>>23030618
maha5 panders too much to the normies for anyone who were into niji id to move onto them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:46:57 No.23030917 Report

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>>23023276
I CAN FIX HIM if he lets me fuck Hana

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:49:17 No.23031027 Report

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>>23023276
Buff?
What are you talking about?
I'm sentencing you to a slow death, take a hint and graduate already before you put more strains in my company's finance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:56:21 No.23031337 Report

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>>23030363
It's because of the Nijisanji's bad decisions, mainly pumping 16 vtubers in the span of one year. The fanbase died before it began.

In a growing market you don't pump more vtubers, you make a brand first for the future competition of the market share when the market starts to show saturation. You should invest in the quality of the existing vtubers instead of investing in more vtubers. The ones in ID who did the former survives, the ones who did the latter became irrelevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 06:59:02 No.23031429 Report

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>>23029958
>3 years ago.
sadly it is 2020+2 now anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:04:20 No.23031604 Report

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>>23030618
Maha5? I don't think so. The same audiences shared by Niji ID is the Holo ID's. Maha5 shares audiences with other ID-only agencies and indies.
That's why Kobo is a special case, her audiences overlaps with the Maha5 one and normies outside of the usual vtubers watchers. Holo ID's future is looking bright if they can diversify their fanbase, but for sure the old fans especially the elitist ones will not like it.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:10:46 No.23031796 Report

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>>23023276
how do we save them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:12:48 No.23031862 Report

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>>23029431
Holokeks tire meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:13:53 No.23031897 Report

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>>23031796
they can play something other than raft
gamma gets really good peaks on his art streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:14:32 No.23031925 Report

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>>23031862
nijiseethe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:36:06 No.23032725 Report

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>>23023276
The market for male Vtubers doesn't exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:38:23 No.23032797 Report

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>>23023276
kek that is a buff, I remember watching Reza once or twice when EN only had Lazulight and he was getting like 10 viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:47:52 No.23033043 Report

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>>23032725
bruh Luxiem and niji jp did a pretty good job

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:49:10 No.23033079 Report

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>>23032725
vox mogs your oshi in numbers and supas on a bad day

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:49:32 No.23033093 Report

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>>23031796
>3 digits
They are saved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:50:29 No.23033120 Report

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>>23031796
3views are okay for stars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:55:53 No.23033278 Report

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>>23030094
SEAnigs are obnoxious just like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:57:24 No.23033329 Report

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>>23023276
don't worry anon, they're doing an introduction relay in a few hours and they're all going to pick up thousands of JOP viewers each

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:57:49 No.23033350 Report

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>>23031796
>Uproar

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:58:13 No.23033361 Report

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You lie to me anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:59:07 No.23033393 Report

Quoted By: >>23033688

So, they were forced to axe mentioning they were ID and KR in their channel name now? Kind of sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 08:01:33 No.23033477 Report

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>>23033361
>53
>156
Almost 3X the viewers!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 08:08:06 No.23033688 Report

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>>23033393
it's okay though, they have tons of benefits from the merger like... uh... the potential of being promoted alongside Mito, Chaika or Kuzuha if they are able to explode in popularity and escape from the bottom... or not having a management that cares about them and will help organize group projects like NIJISORE or the ID anniversary stuff...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 08:10:35 No.23033762 Report

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>>23024256
yeah i feel like bullying actual 2views is a bridge too far

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 08:12:53 No.23033837 Report

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>>23033688
Should've paid the bills if they liked projects so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 08:19:02 No.23034035 Report

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>>23030094
I guess the money they get from Niji even though they're a 2view is better than the average job they can get in a third world country.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 08:23:32 No.23034145 Report

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>>23031796
>The one that's LARPing as a woman/woman LARPing as a man has the lowest views
Seems like it's a bad idea to make that kind of character when most of your fanbase are women or actual homos, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 08:30:31 No.23034330 Report

Quoted By: >>23035152 >>23064168

last i heard they had a local office for niji id right? did they ever use it for something? and did they close it down now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UTwzLCQ4g0

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 08:57:56 No.23035066 Report

Quoted By: >>23035622 >>23035637 >>23038374

>>23031604
maha5 is overlapping with holoid gen 1 and reine + ollie because of their utaite circle
i literally never see a kobofag in maha5 streams
most kobofags i know are either windah's bocil kematian or nijiidniggers and nijienniggers who hates hololive. i saw some nijien fujos didn't even know she's part of hololive and assumed she's in nijiid.
t. maha5 fujo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 08:59:06 No.23035117 Report

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>>23033361
The thing is that despite looking retarded he has a good voice for an indog

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:00:34 No.23035152 Report

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>>23034330
The whole point of merger was that branches weren't making enough money to support rent for the said offices

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:16:07 No.23035575 Report

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>>23033361
He streamed at the time when none of the other Niji ID were streaming, that extra viewers are from the pool of Niji ID fans in general. Anyone from Niji ID can easily get 200 ccv if they streams at that particular time. The real number is when they streams at Indonesian prime time (7PM-12PM GMT+7) when everyone is streaming at the same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:18:06 No.23035622 Report

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>>23035066
To be fair, Kobo's chat is so crowded you can't really see who's who in there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:18:38 No.23035637 Report

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>>23035066
>maha5 fujo
you exist???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:22:09 No.23035711 Report

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>>23033477
the same ccv as Holostars! pretty awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:23:53 No.23035754 Report

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>>23035711
NOOOOOO YOU NEED TO COMPARE HIS CCV TO BECOLAAAAAAAAAAA
t. seanigs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:27:06 No.23035832 Report

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>>23035637
one of their talent is literally wrote a BL fanfic on stream...
what surprises me is that they know about /vt/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:29:21 No.23035891 Report

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>>23033361
>>23031796
It's funny that holobronies are quieter after this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:42:52 No.23036196 Report

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>>23035832
w-which one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:43:06 No.23036206 Report

Quoted By: >>23036481 >>23044319

>>23035622
i don't mean on chat
but in youtube Clip comments, twitter posts and facebook posts
for some reason, some of kobo's fans hate Hololive and its fans. i know some of them are NijiID fans cuz i remember their usernames, i had a tiny fight with them on valrius sinica's video. the one titled "why Nijisanji is better than Hololive" (now deleted and unlisted)
>>23035637
the one who posted kevin vangardo screenshot in /#/ and sent screenshots of moona's irresistible cute faces with red hair to iketog
yeah i existed
>>23035832
well i like maha5 and hololive, for uh bisexual reasons
>know about /vt/
of course i'm here, i'm a holofan too
i'm not here long enough to call myself an oldfag but i participated in /vt/ sings

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:45:39 No.23036267 Report

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>>23030917
You like fat chick huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:47:25 No.23036309 Report

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>>23031337
I said it again, them using the classic Nokia tactic was a huge mistake. They thought they can flood the market and overwhelm Holo by fielding more Vtubers. But they missing the point of offering entertainer to the audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:48:29 No.23036336 Report

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>>23031796
Add more weeb population.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:55:18 No.23036481 Report

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>>23036206
>had a tiny fight with them on valrius sinica's video
i didn't know valrius made a video about that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 09:57:13 No.23036532 Report

Quoted By: >>23037092

>>23034035
The lowest pay for employees in Japan is 130,000 Yen. Converted to Rupiah it's 14,500,000 Rupiah. The highest minimum pay in Indonesia is 4,700,000 rupiah. Getting basic salary is enough for them. So in summary, the big money makers in Nijisanji are indirectly supporting the smaller earners in Nijisanji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:01:56 No.23036657 Report

Quoted By: >>23037046 >>23037240 >>23037886

>>23036309
nijiID started long before holoID exists, holobrony

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:11:49 No.23036897 Report

Quoted By: >>23037700 >>23064168

>>23035152
I noticed they rent a place in the middle of Jakarta, in a high rise building. With rent that cost almost like first world country

Fucking idiot.

Here's better tips to rent a place to run as business in Indonesia
>Pick big city like Jakarta or Bandung
>Rent a big house annually (way cheaper and not much legal hassle), make sure the place has good internet service connection
>Convert rooms for offices
>Hire your own security from private security agency
>Hire a local maid or two. They will take care of cleaning and other house chores

Voila, no more excessive spending.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:15:25 No.23037003 Report

Quoted By: >>23044058

>>23031796
Easy. One POV only. Why they all insist to stream their POV?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:16:40 No.23037046 Report

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>>23036657
and?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:17:13 No.23037063 Report

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>>23031862
This was posted by a NijiID clipper, look up the image in the archives from yesterday

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:18:17 No.23037092 Report

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>>23036532
did any Niji streamer talk about having a salary? because i don't think its a standard thing in the streaming scene

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:23:51 No.23037240 Report

Quoted By: >>23038120 >>23054011

>>23036657
>Started longer than Hololive
>Still failed to conquer the market
>Even losing the branch office
Again, I'm talking about their business tactic, not how long they stay in the industry. I mean look at MacKintosh's Quality Street Chocolate. They exist way longery than Cadbury but the moment Cadbury came up with Cadbury Roses and its marketing tactic they became far more popular and surpass MacKintosh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:27:45 No.23037363 Report

Quoted By: >>23037724

No one talk shit about the homos anymore, even they don't do this badly. I like Reza so I hope things get better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:38:54 No.23037700 Report

Quoted By: >>23039140

>>23036897
Some houses around mine are rented by small shipping companies. Definitely cheaper than renting an office space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:39:37 No.23037724 Report

Quoted By: >>23051803

>>23037363
I have no hope anymore for Nijisanji and the way they run things. I hope ex Niji ID just left the company and continue as indies or form their own independent agency.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:44:59 No.23037886 Report

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>>23036657
Their shotgun tactics only works in Japan. Even you can see that Niji EN girls is starting to decline.
In the case of ID, first wave did a good job actually, it was by the time the 3rd wave debuted that the hype began to die, add Holo ID debut around that time and Niji ID's fate has been sealed, and they make it worse by debuting 4th and 5th wave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:52:56 No.23038120 Report

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>>23037240
There was only 2 years difference between quality street and roses coming out, also how fucking old are you if you remember them being mackintosh's

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 10:57:02 No.23038227 Report

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>>23023276
I'm pretty sure this move was the best way to kill both branches without risking a massive backlash especially from the EN fandom. I dunno if there's anyone in ID or KR that has a decent income, but they definitely wouldn't get away with graduating only the bad performers, or murdering all of them just like they did with IN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:01:43 No.23038374 Report

Quoted By: >>23040207

>>23035066
Who would've thought that the key to conquer local scene is just have someone like Kobo, I bet M-chan learned this from Sena

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:21:00 No.23039140 Report

Quoted By: >>23039323

>>23037700
Yep, high rise lot in Jakarta: 700,000,000 (seven hundred millions) to 3,000,000.000 (3 billions) rupiah per year.
A large mansion style house with 7+ rooms cost between 100,000,000 (a hundred million) to 300,000,000 (three hundred million) rupiah per year. Just add 100,000,000 (100 millions) per year for security guard and house maid and necessities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:24:35 No.23039274 Report

Quoted By: >>23039380

>>23037886
My guess is that they keep gobbling up new talents and hastily make new waves so Hololive run out of talents to audition.

And yet they don't find Kobo until it's too late.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:25:51 No.23039323 Report

Quoted By: >>23040010

>>23039140
is it legal though? some places can be anal about having residential spaces used for business purposes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:26:59 No.23039380 Report

Quoted By: >>23039930

>>23039274
I don't think Niji would even dare to get someone like Kobo, I sense that her style of chuuba was too risky to be in Niji's target list

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:29:52 No.23039516 Report

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lmao, no girls will unironically join niggers after nocsis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:33:04 No.23039686 Report

Quoted By: >>23040005 >>23040227

>>23037886
Bonni and Siska performed better than most of NijiID, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:34:37 No.23039788 Report

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>>23037886
Even in Japan shotgun tactic can cause brand fatigue.
I mean look at music industry, you never see them releasing new musics at the same time right? They usually paced their releases to ensure every singer have their time in the spotlight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:37:13 No.23039930 Report

Quoted By: >>23040296

>>23039380
>too risky to be in Niji.
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:38:40 No.23040005 Report

Quoted By: >>23040207

>>23039686
are bonni and siska non-nepotism hires?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:38:45 No.23040010 Report

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>>23039323
As long you keep quiet and not making a racket you will be golden. Also don't take too much parking space outside and be nice and friendly with neighbours. It's common for IT upstarts to do the same thing, even in smaller house and more cramped place. Especially in the city of Bandung where real estate is getting more rare as time goes by.

Also pay your taxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:42:22 No.23040207 Report

Quoted By: >>23040442

>>23040005
No idea, actually. But days ago we had a thread like this and someone said that the Keluarga Roti clique disliked Bonni, Siska, and Mika.
>>23038374
Unironically, Windah is a good benchmark to determine if an Indo VTuber is big enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:42:36 No.23040227 Report

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>>23039686
Bonni has his voice, charm and good English. He fit the "hunky and rugged handsome middle aged Ojiisan" while Siska filled several fetishes. She's pretty much Nijisanji's version of Noel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:43:43 No.23040296 Report

Quoted By: >>23040576

>>23039930
Too normalfag to be in Niji

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:46:18 No.23040442 Report

Quoted By: >>23040909 >>23043368

>>23040207
>someone said that the Keluarga Roti clique disliked Bonni, Siska, and Mika.
Trusting a dramafag? Really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:48:40 No.23040576 Report

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>>23040296
Can't be more normie than half of their girls. Kobo will be more unhinged if she's in Niji, but alas.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 11:55:23 No.23040909 Report

Quoted By: >>23045358

>>23040442
dunno, honestly. it sounds like bs but bonni is quite isolated and i believe that he's /here/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 12:52:22 No.23043368 Report

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>>23040442
bumping the thread but it's somewhat funny that we had an "event staff" in last thread. again, it's probably bs but i can't just ignore fresh rrats in this board

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 12:53:39 No.23043421 Report

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>>23033762
nah, bullying a random indie 2view is cruel, bullying a 2view from big corpo isnt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 13:00:58 No.23043694 Report

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>>23037886
But NijiEN girls are inclining, even Reimu and Millie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 13:09:27 No.23044058 Report

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>>23037003
That's just how games with multiple povs should be, if it is not some board/party game multiple povs means nothing will be missed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 13:15:34 No.23044319 Report

Quoted By: >>23045672 >>23048631

>>23036206
>self admitted indog SEAnigger
>/#/
Why am I not surprised

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 13:37:35 No.23045358 Report

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>>23040909
Or Bonniver knew creating faction in a company is not healthy in the long run. I fucking hate office politic. Happened to me once when I worked in a magazine publishing company. Not fun at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 13:43:10 No.23045672 Report

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>>23044319
? I'm not a regular though
Only when there's some celebration stuff, because hlgg dislike talking about it.
Well, the ID tally some Anon did recently kinda make me check that thread regularly now, because I'm not that familiar with indie and small corpos scene

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 14:41:49 No.23048631 Report

Quoted By: >>23050357 >>23058395

>>23044319
Ah the hate, you guys are too predictable.
Like it or not, the dogs will stay, and this is our territory
So enjoy the broken English fuckers. Not our fault your language is the lingua franca of the world right now.
Make you want to wish that everyone still speak latin eh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 14:42:49 No.23048684 Report

Quoted By: >>23049730 >>23064198

>>23033837
NTA but what bills should the talent pay anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 15:05:50 No.23049730 Report

Quoted By: >>23051100

>>23048684
Staff wages, rent, equipment, other expenses. Where do you think money come from? You don't get personal events if Kuzuha pays for everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 15:14:46 No.23050136 Report

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>>23034145
The rio schizo still is alive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 15:19:49 No.23050357 Report

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>>23048631
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 15:36:13 No.23051097 Report

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>>23034035
this, for example joining holoID put you at the top 10% earner in the country, moona been complaining about being put in the same tax bracket as a CEO of a company because of the amount of money she makes per month. holoID girls are filthy rich by indo standards and nijiID despite being 2view are probably fine too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 15:36:14 No.23051100 Report

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>>23049730
yeah, they won't alright. as much as they like the event and shit, paying anybody out of their pocket is almost impossible. just like the anniversary event when they crowdfund shit.
and they got $1.5k only. good thing the song was decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 15:37:22 No.23051156 Report

Quoted By: >>23052195 >>23052554

>>23023276
ID should have been merged into EN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 15:51:21 No.23051803 Report

Quoted By: >>23057296

>>23037724
I Prefer AnyColo/Nijisanjir getting Shutdown cause their own decisions like upd8

You can see how Gibara & Lulu choose to leave that Company rather than Stay there, despite the fact They're main faces of Nijisanji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 16:00:43 No.23052195 Report

Quoted By: >>23058571

>>23051156
Unironically this.
And I'm saying this as a holofan, holoID specifically. This was the result of my talk with my sister who is a nijiIDfan, and we concluded that Riku and Nijisanji management in general are dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 16:09:48 No.23052554 Report

Quoted By: >>23052862 >>23053695

>>23051156
The problem is, should NijiID get merged into NijiEN, I don't think EN management could handle the influx of new livers. Not to mention that not all NijiID members are proficient in English, so it won't be surprising if Anycolor only picks a bunch of them.

This could lead to envy and jealousy as only some will be chosen into EN. Mika, Hana, and Bonni is already EN-worthy. How about the rest? You can't save them all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 16:17:34 No.23052862 Report

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>>23052554
You got a point there, and that's why the shotgun method of flooding new vtubers every 6 months are really, really, really dumb. I can't stress that more than this.
But anyway, ID ESLs should still be acceptable in EN anon, see mooner, Anya, and probably ID KSGK and Hagsmith soon. They all got relatively bad English compared to Oil, Reiner, and Treerat. Might be wrong though, am holofan.
Did NijiID audition not require the talents to speak EN/JP? If so that's another dumb Niji management decision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 16:36:47 No.23053695 Report

Quoted By:

>>23052554
Could have at least offered the good ones the EN badge, and said ID streams can be done whenever like when Millie flips it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 16:43:17 No.23054011 Report

Quoted By: >>23054346 >>23054592 >>23064464

>>23037240
>>Still failed to conquer the market
dyrb holo conquered the market? holoID success came from having fans around the world like EN

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 16:51:27 No.23054346 Report

Quoted By: >>23055053

>>23054011
NTA but tell me anon, how big is the vtuber market in ID? no i'm not talking about the usual clip and short videos watcher nor the popular-music-cover-sung-in-japanese type of crap.
the livestream regular one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 16:51:40 No.23054360 Report

Quoted By: >>23054445

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvG5RwcIsiM
>The Benigging of Drakness
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 16:53:34 No.23054445 Report

Quoted By: >>23054746 >>23064582

>>23054360
>almost a full month of disgaea
this is retardation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 16:56:28 No.23054592 Report

Quoted By:

>>23054011
Technically, Holo did. Granted, their view counts aren't anywhere near the highs of 2020-early 2021, but they basically have nearly the entire Vtuber market under lock and key, save for males which is dominated by Luxium's Chinese fujos.
Its still at a point where most normalfags probably would think of Hololive when they think of vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:00:16 No.23054746 Report

Quoted By: >>23055011

>>23054445
No, it's extremely talented and hard working NijiID that could conquer the world if they got more support. Alas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:06:55 No.23055011 Report

Quoted By: >>23057143

>>23054746
nah at this point they don't even care what they are going to stream. maybe not for mika and few other, but riksa is definitely not one of them hard working "livers".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:07:58 No.23055053 Report

Quoted By: >>23055217 >>23055462 >>23055666 >>23055826

>>23054346
I would say it's the third biggest VTuber market after EN and JP. Main ID agencies are HoloID, Maha5, and (formerly) NijiID, although there's other up-and-coming agencies such as Yume Reality, Virtunix, Re:Memories, and etc.

Most Indo VTubers are 3views, barring few exceptions (HoloID, sometimes Maha5, Mika, Mythia afaik). The exciting thing is the fact that it's still growing and only started to gain traction quite recently. I don't see much drama in the Indonesian VTuber scene compared to the Western scene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:11:52 No.23055217 Report

Quoted By: >>23058871

>>23055053
*Few of them are 3views, most are still 2views, obviously. Contrary to popular beliefs, Indo does donate to VTubers. We can't donate as much as EOP, but at least we do donate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:17:46 No.23055462 Report

Quoted By:

>>23055053
then you can't ignore that HoloID still have the majority of ID fans within their fanbase. even moona has a bigger ID audience rather than EN or JP. for sure, at the first time EN really boost their popularity, but now they already breakthru the local market.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:22:58 No.23055666 Report

Quoted By: >>23055972 >>23056094

>>23055053
>Virtunix
>Luthfi Halimawan
I wouldn't count on a guy who doxxed his own talents....

>Miti
She's reclining these days, after the Valentine.

But the rest, yeah. Mika is amazing, I would add Bobon though, maybe Siska as well. HoloID is a jewel in ID Vtuber Industry, even more so after Kobo. Maha5 is still relatively strong, as well as Re:Memories (esp. Chloe) and Yume Reality (esp. Sena, sad about Shia though).

These days Hana and Taka's views are pitiful...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:27:02 No.23055826 Report

Quoted By: >>23059097 >>23064725

>>23055053
>I would say it's the third biggest VTuber market after EN and JP
You forgot the chinks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:31:04 No.23055972 Report

Quoted By: >>23056378

>>23055666
Mika is more EN than ID at this point. She's basically what most ID-based nijinigs accuse HoloID of being (EOP pandering elitist)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:34:19 No.23056094 Report

Quoted By: >>23056378

>>23055666
The only plausible explanation for that Virtunix posts were either to mess with doxfags or to prove that they don't hire ojisans. For Mythia, it's undeniable that she reclined, but I do think it's better for her mental state. I'm okay with the current Miti.

My mind didn't work well anymore, forgot to mention Bonni, Siska, and the others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:41:39 No.23056378 Report

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>>23055972
setujuh gan, doi basically EN skrg and I have no issue with that. I've been following HoloID for a long time, and always prefer HoloID. I also like Siska though.
If that's how Mika gonna save herself, good for her.

>>23056094
>Mess with doxxfags or prove no ojisans
Interesting. Never thought about it that way.
>Miti mental state
All the best for her then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:42:02 No.23056390 Report

Quoted By: >>23057016

>HoloID is a jewel in ID Vtuber Industry, even more so after Kobo
As a resident numberfag, I agree with this. Kobo regulary beats most of NijiEn except Luxiem and the only times that Noctyx and the NijiEN girls outrank her in the daily tally is due to them using buffs like unarchived karaoke's, celebration streams (the current nijiEN meta), or collabing with a luxiem member / having them on VC for the fujo buff. And this is just to beat her regular streams. I could easily see a scenario where kobo would outrank all of them in the daily tally if she did a karaoke again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:56:15 No.23057016 Report

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>>23056390
i'd love to watch Kobo karaoke without acoustic,
so that she can focus on singing rather than clumsily multi tasking with her child body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 17:59:19 No.23057143 Report

Quoted By: >>23057434 >>23057574

>>23055011
they stream what they want. is that supposed to be a bad thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:03:14 No.23057296 Report

Quoted By: >>23057638 >>23058285

>>23051803
You can say the same about coco

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:06:13 No.23057434 Report

Quoted By:

>>23057143
that laissez faire attitude is the reason why the ID branch got "merged" into the main branch. This is the same issue I have with Council and even Myth (specifically Ame). Your seniors spent their blood, sweat, and tears to create the current home that shelters you. The least that you can do is numberfag a bit so you can grow the brand and help pay it forward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:09:36 No.23057574 Report

Quoted By: >>23064168

>>23057143
if they are talented and hardworking streamers that could conquer the world, they shouldn't be doing that, at least plan what they are gonna do and not being a lazy "side job" streamer kinda thing. by saying "is that a bad thing?" you just counter your own statement above.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:11:02 No.23057638 Report

Quoted By: >>23057942

>>23057296
Coco post graduation did the following
>went after any clipper or drama channel that tried to paint Cover and Hololive in a bad light
>helped Haachama and even encouraged her to keep streaming as a Holo.
Despite all the rrats, Coco still loves Hololive and respects Yagoo a lot (I have a feeling that she got infected by Yagoos saviour autism hence why she keeps trying to help indies). Gibara and Lulu left and have all but abandoned their nijisanji roots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:19:11 No.23057942 Report

Quoted By:

>>23057638
hell, yesterday she sent her ~8k viewers on Twitch to Roboco who was streaming Valorant with ~1k viewers. Roboco's response was a very cute "Ksonすき"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:26:59 No.23058285 Report

Quoted By:

>>23057296
Do your Yakuza 6 's ending anon
> Kiryu Coco must be dead for whom she love.
> She said not angry or revenge to chinks for her. Her's life did not worth that much.
> She pround what she did for Hololive. That is matter.

Coco is grand saviour class now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:29:25 No.23058395 Report

Quoted By:

>>23048631
indochad right here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:33:52 No.23058571 Report

Quoted By: >>23058636

>>23052195
>Riku is dumb
Damn zoomer and their short sightedness, a CEO should be at least a middle aged man with wisdom and patient to make a big decision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:35:24 No.23058636 Report

Quoted By: >>23061176

>>23058571
Riku is a zoomer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:41:10 No.23058871 Report

Quoted By: >>23064977

>>23055217
The ID market is way poorer than EN and JP, but the real power of the ID is in the numbers. People might only donated in average of $3, but there are hundreds of them, so it adds up. Also ID can't superchat so the vtubers earns more per donation without that ridiculous 30% youtube cut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:46:59 No.23059097 Report

Quoted By: >>23060038 >>23065024

>>23055826
Just like their country, their market is too isolated. We don't really know their numbers, just subs number in bilibili doesn't show much as long as they're not included in the general numberfag sites.
So it's safe to assume that ID is the 3rd biggest market for now.

Even that Israeli agency included WIB as one of their schedule's timezone. Israeli pandering to Indonesian, the biggest muslim country and staunch Palestine supporter, can you imagine that? That says a lot about the ID scene as one of the major scene in the vtubers industry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 19:07:00 No.23060038 Report

Quoted By: >>23060889

>>23059097
I think TW is bigger, KR (twitch) too
But pandering to Indonesians provide algo-boost and sub boost for YouTubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 19:24:17 No.23060889 Report

Quoted By:

>>23060038
TW? Not really sure, do their vtubers included in the top vtubers category?

KR? Maybe for now.
But the thing with ID is the potential. If KR is bigger now, I think their numbers would still be around that a few years from now. With ID, it's kinda unpredictable but it's not impossible to have 5x bigger fanbase in the next few years, and it's still far from the oversaturation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 19:30:22 No.23061176 Report

Quoted By:

>>23058636
He’s like 25-26 or something. Not a zoomer but still young

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 20:27:15 No.23064001 Report

Quoted By:

good thread, people o7

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 20:30:43 No.23064168 Report

Quoted By: >>23064506

>>23034330
>>23035152
>>23036897
idiots, that video is shot in anycolor main japanese office. that retarded normie youtuber is in japan.

NIJI ID local office has never been confirmed anywhere

>>23057574
lazy is far from what EX-ID members are, man, at least for some of them. just look at nijisore right now. also I believe some said that they can't even continue making content without their "day job" so of course streaming got a "side job" debuffs.

i mean look at the retard OP used as bait here for example. Reza is known for not resting properly. lazy my ass. if only he doesnt look that stupid. god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 20:31:15 No.23064198 Report

Quoted By:

>>23048684
Internet. For streaming I guess they took one of the most expensive personal home internet that cost between $55 to $85 per month if their home is graced with shit tier Indihome or $120 to $200 if they're lucky and get First Media

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 20:36:35 No.23064464 Report

Quoted By:

>>23054011
Their merch sales shows, anon. Akasupa is great but merchandise is always the big earner.
Hell, Watame made one whole album from just one merchandise sales event. If each song cost at least $2,500 to produce (according what Moona said) then producing 8 to 12 songs will be quite costly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 20:37:43 No.23064506 Report

Quoted By:

>>23064168
Holo ID and Niji ID are full fledged Japanese companies, they've never had any office in Indonesia, nor do they pay corporate taxes to Indonesia except income taxes that the talents and management pays.

Maha5 is the only agency managed from Japan that has an office and a company in Indonesia and pay taxes to Indonesia. I don't really know about the ownerships, but I guess it's a joint venture between Japanese and Indonesian investors and managed by the Japanese.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 20:39:32 No.23064582 Report

Quoted By: >>23066171

>>23054445
>Vtuber play hyped game of the month once or twice before dumping it
>People: "Vtubers are just a bunch of trend chasers!"
>Vtuber play one game to completion for days
>People: "This is fucking retarded!"

There's nothing pleasing you eh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 20:42:49 No.23064725 Report

Quoted By:

>>23055826
Recently China made a new rule that you need to submit your real ID if you want to play online game.
This is from a country that limit gaming time for kids for only one hour during workdays.
You think foreign company want that kind of volative market?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 20:48:49 No.23064977 Report

Quoted By:

>>23058871
Yep. Just want to add that Indonesia has this culture called Saweran. This is pretty much ancient concept of simping but IRL.
So it's basically people go to local party where female musicians (of the Dangdut kind) or dancers (the sexy dance kind) and shower the girls with money while they dance or sing just to show off that they're rich.
Thus when online simping became a thing, people do actually give money. Not much but pretty constant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 20:49:50 No.23065024 Report

Quoted By:

>>23059097
I saw a thread that claim that the IDOL team from Israel was supposed to be a scam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 21:11:50 No.23066171 Report

Quoted By: >>23066454

>>23064582
at least play some new and entertaining game like elden ring. i will sit and watch them through just like Ina's and Reine's stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 21:17:16 No.23066454 Report

Quoted By: >>23066846

>>23066171
Game choice isn't always the best way to boost audience. Sure people like Hana might need it. But look at Korone, she jumped into Minecraft bandwagon very late but people still love her retro game runs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 21:24:24 No.23066846 Report

Quoted By:

>>23066454
of course some of them have niche content that their fans like. but he need it the most if he wanted to at least inclined a bit. game choice is crucial for 2views like him.

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