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Nijisanji IPO

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:07:39 No.23281370 View View Reply Original Report

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Nijisanji is going public THIS IS NOT A DRILL
https://twitter.com/hirokawa_style/status/1519562723440590848

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:08:45 No.23281392 Report

Quoted By: >>23286191

Imma gonna buy 5% of the company and have them shill my big cock

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:11:50 No.23281468 Report

Quoted By: >>23286002

So that’s why they didn’t want NijiEn to collab with Ollie or HoloEN. They didn’t want to scare away the big Chinese investors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:13:24 No.23281500 Report

Quoted By: >>23281535 >>23281573 >>23281695 >>23302325

But why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:13:56 No.23281512 Report

Quoted By: >>23281558

Anycolor retard. Nijisanji is just a project

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:14:53 No.23281535 Report

Quoted By: >>23286232

>>23281500
That's generally how startups go if they're successful, seed round funding, a few more rounds of investment and then an IPO. Cover will follow suit by this time next year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:15:05 No.23281545 Report

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>>23281370
/hirokawa_style
Who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:15:22 No.23281558 Report

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>>23281512
On this board anycolor and nijisanji are used interchangeably, and really ever since they closed down yumeographia what other projects does anycolor have that necessitates a distinction?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:15:44 No.23281573 Report

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>>23281500
More money to dominate the market.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:18:33 No.23281648 Report

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>>23281558
VTA?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:20:13 No.23281695 Report

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>>23281500
Half the point of a start up is so you can either cash out by going public or get bought out by google

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:21:50 No.23281738 Report

Quoted By: >>23281853 >>23282508 >>23282819 >>23285481

Oh hey, some numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:26:10 No.23281853 Report

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>>23281738
Interesting to get confirmation that merch makes the most money by far as expected.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:26:51 No.23281876 Report

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>>23281558
virtuareal

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:29:11 No.23281948 Report

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>>23281370
Yo 4 years to go public is fast as fuck, that's like literal insane breakneck speed. They haven't even finished one cycle of 5 years corporate plan, wtf is going on

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:30:38 No.23281983 Report

Quoted By: >>23282051 >>23282293

oh boy, shareholder meddling. that 100% won't have any disastrous unwanted consequences caused by stupid decisions made in search of short term profits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:31:25 No.23282001 Report

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>>23281948
Accelerate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:32:44 No.23282036 Report

Quoted By: >>23282081 >>23286001

Maybe it's just me but isn't this kind of a red flag. Maybe I'm biased since I tend to side eye private turned public companies because of all the bad shit that gets reported. Perfect example of this in recent times is CDproject with the cyberpunk debacle
>Game needed at least an extra year or 2 in the oven. Investors: Fuck you! Release it now because money!
>Needed to cut the OG PS4 and Xbone because they're too old. Investors: Fuck you! I want this shit to run on a fucking toaster because money!
Hell, I stopped buying NBA 2k games once they started focusing more on the gacha aspect of the game (team packs, etc) than the actual gameplay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:33:17 No.23282051 Report

Quoted By: >>23282909

>>23281983
anon they already have shareholders. private companies already have shareholder meddling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:34:33 No.23282081 Report

Quoted By: >>23282396 >>23283123

>>23282036
both public and private companies are behold to shareholders.
Your CDProject example is retarded considering the investors lawsuit into for lying to them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:36:59 No.23282155 Report

Quoted By: >>23282500

Are you all numberfags, how do you not know that Nijisanji has shareholders and investors already? Seriously?
How fucking retarded are you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:38:00 No.23282187 Report

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>>23281948
they're close with sony and tencent and those are 2 of the most valuable companies in the world so I imagine they were involved

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:41:21 No.23282293 Report

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>>23281983
They already closed down yumenographia and merged ID and KR to clean their financial report.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:41:31 No.23282295 Report

Quoted By: >>23282321

>>23281876
is part of nijisanji

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:42:29 No.23282317 Report

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>>23281370
Oh so this explains why Niji ID got axed together with KR out of nowhere. They want to keep the financial reports to be good for IPO so they kill an entire branch to hide the underperforming financial report in ID. By merging it with JP the profits or losses in ID are being merged with JP financial report, which of course it's in positive.
This explains alot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:42:43 No.23282321 Report

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>>23282295
no it isn't, but it's also a joint project with bilibili so I'm not sure whether they have to disclose it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:44:28 No.23282369 Report

Quoted By: >>23282476

>>23282317
and that's also why they shut down yumenographia out of nowhere despite investing alot into them just a few short months ago, because it looks bad to investors if they have a virtual prostitution club on thier roster

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:44:56 No.23282381 Report

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>>23282317
Talking about sending a statement eh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:45:37 No.23282396 Report

Quoted By: >>23282458

>>23282081
Wasn't the main reason why they released the game as it was due to the long Dev time and the investors getting antsy about returns? Lawsuit was more because they lied about the state of the game (them bullshitting the reviews to show PC gameplay only and controlled parts at that and trying to obfuscate PS4 and Xbox gameplay). And my 2k example stands. I fucking loathe what NBA 2k has become. If your gonna turn that shit into gacha then don't make me pay 60 for that shit in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:47:40 No.23282432 Report

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>>23281370
This is actually worrisome. Many companies trying to shed their bad parts when they want to attract investors but the whole management itself tend to stink to high heaven but they cover it up to make them look good for investors. When the money pouring in the CEO either bail with golden parachute leaving a huge mess behind or just run the company to the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:49:11 No.23282458 Report

Quoted By: >>23282700

>>23282396
not the guy you were talking with and I didn't follow that controversy very closely but regarding lawsuits you should know all the reviews, interviews, press events are irrelevant in the eyes of the court, they only look at what's on the box and what's on the steam page, if there are lies in those then they can get into legal trouble, if those don't state any lies then they haven't committed any crimes, the devs can lie their asses off in a press event, as long as the released product's description itself does not contain lies it's not a crime

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:49:40 No.23282476 Report

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>>23282369
They shut it down for the same reason as the id branch. Nobody cares if they were running a hostess club as long as it made money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:50:54 No.23282494 Report

Quoted By: >>23282514

>>23282317
You copy pasted this in multiple threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:50:57 No.23282500 Report

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>>23282155
The /#/ thread has like 5 dudes that just want to talk numbers and then every other IP is just consolewar tourists from 2019-2020

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:51:14 No.23282508 Report

Quoted By: >>23282555 >>23283311

>>23281738
If they IPO for anything less than 8Billion USD, I'm buying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:51:38 No.23282514 Report

Quoted By: >>23283205

>>23282494
because it's relevant

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:53:46 No.23282555 Report

Quoted By: >>23283311

>>23282508
nvm 800m, its in 1k yen units not 10k

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:54:11 No.23282570 Report

Quoted By: >>23282595

Nijisanji management is already a mess and now they want more outsiders involved.
it's a recipe for disaster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:55:13 No.23282595 Report

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>>23282570
Nijisanji gonna implode lezgooooooooo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:55:14 No.23282596 Report

Quoted By: >>23282621

Would such even affect their dynamic in any way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:56:38 No.23282621 Report

Quoted By: >>23282671

>>23282596
they;d be more beholden to chinks, for one

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:57:40 No.23282641 Report

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>>23281370
https://disclosure.edinet-fsa.go.jp/api/v1/documents/S100NYZL?type=2
168 pages goodluck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:58:54 No.23282671 Report

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>>23282621
That would be rather unfortunate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:59:16 No.23282678 Report

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>>23282317
that was obvious with the april merge date, reminder the japs fiscal year starts in april

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 08:59:54 No.23282694 Report

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>>23282641
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/news/zvwkpo9o5
https://www.jpx.co.jp/listing/stocks/new/index.html
https://www.jpx.co.jp/listing/stocks/new/nlsgeu000006da6d-att/06ANYCOLOR-1s.pdf
https://www.jpx.co.jp/listing/stocks/new/nlsgeu000006da6d-att/06ANYCOLOR-cg.pdf
Also more documents
how the fuck does /biz/ deal with this shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:00:09 No.23282700 Report

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>>23282458
Did a brief refresher and it looks like the lawsuit was because they lied about the state of the game and it being sold as a finished product despite being "unplayable". It goes back to what I'm saying though. They don't release that shit unless outside forces are pressuring them to do so. Is CDproject innocent in that regard? HELL NO! Mofos have been living off their Witcher rep since forever. They overestimated themselves and Cyberpunk is just as much a result of their hubris as it is possible investor pressure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:00:47 No.23282716 Report

Quoted By: >>23282881 >>23283108

>>23282317
Timeline doesn't match up, valuation for IPO happens roughly half a year to a year before a company goes public. ID finance was already reflected in their previous year statement

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:02:27 No.23282751 Report

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>>23282694
Never discount either dogged determination or the raw power of autism.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:02:33 No.23282754 Report

Quoted By: >>23287879 >>23288063 >>23300323

>>23282641
>We only have a few livers graduated from nijisanji before April 2021.
kek
That document also talked about how niji gonna face the other competitors and the inappropriate contents in their stream/video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:05:19 No.23282819 Report

Quoted By: >>23282879 >>23284553

>>23281738
total number of hours watched isn't increasing as fast as it did in 2021 and the live streaming profit numbers follow roughly the same trend. Seems like promotions and commerce is where they are growing the value.
I suspect promotional income still has a lot of room to grow as they become more "legitimate" in the eyes of other Japanese companies. Merchandise definitely has room to grow

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:07:50 No.23282879 Report

Quoted By: >>23282988

>>23282819
The 2022 Q3 only includes data from April 2021 to Jan 31st, 2022.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:08:02 No.23282881 Report

Quoted By: >>23302314

>>23282716
I am going to willingly ignore this post and continue to spread the other guy's rrat since it sounds better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:08:52 No.23282909 Report

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>>23282051
investors approached directly for a private enterprise are not the same thing as hedge funds and venture capitalist jackwads that think they're some kind of intellectual behemoths. it could turn out great, or it could be a disaster, but there's always a risk of publicly traded companies being pushed in strange directions by investors who don't actually give a fuck about the company or its long term health as long as number go up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:09:06 No.23282917 Report

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>>23282694
Half of /biz/ are braindead like their counterpart in r/wallstreetbet while the other half actually know what they doing but decided to just shit post.

captcha: HWOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:10:42 No.23282957 Report

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>>23281370
https://twitter.com/riku_tazumi/status/1519572752021172224
should've used this link bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:10:48 No.23282962 Report

Quoted By:

>>23281370
>Buy Share
>Supachat Liver
>”I own you.”

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:11:35 No.23282988 Report

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>>23282879
I know, I took that into account by multiplying the number by 1.33.
Number of hours watched would only have grown by 15%

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:11:47 No.23282994 Report

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>>23282694
Most of /biz/ are those retards who you happen to hear about eventually because they killed themselves after a dip

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:13:25 No.23283032 Report

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>>23282694
Eh I would willingly read the prospectus if it's in English, all this kanji is making my head spin

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:15:42 No.23283080 Report

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https://twitter.com/NamaraBoy/status/1519568297431248896

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:16:58 No.23283108 Report

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>>23282716
its for next year then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:17:33 No.23283123 Report

Quoted By: >>23283270

>>23282081
Not really, in private companies it depends on the agreements between the owner and the investors.
You can tell the shareholders to not meddle in your company's affair if they're the one who needs your shares.
In a public company you can't do that, board of directors is the supreme command of the company.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:20:46 No.23283196 Report

Quoted By: >>23283229

>>23282694
/biz/ don't actually read that shit most of them are just there to shill crypto/NFT's or dicksuck elon musk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:21:12 No.23283205 Report

Quoted By: >>23283336

>>23282514
Obsessed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:22:23 No.23283229 Report

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>>23283196
Nobody really reads all that shit, they pay someone to jump to the relevant numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:23:10 No.23283250 Report

Quoted By: >>23283387 >>23283413 >>23284069

In my opinion, it's a mixed bag.

If investors only look at the big picture then not much will change, but if people decide to micromanage the company we may see dumb shit like mass graduations of underpermorming livers in the future

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:24:02 No.23283270 Report

Quoted By: >>23283388

>>23283123
This is more pronounced in the US stock exchange. In Japan investors are more interested in stability and long-term growth because Japan has much fewer speculators. It's mostly retirement funds and pension plans rather than autistic daytraders.

This is still really fucking bad for Nijisanji and vtubing as a whole but it's not gonna go down the shitter quite as fast as American companies do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:24:42 No.23283293 Report

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>>23281370
This shit is going to get corrupt so fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:25:23 No.23283311 Report

Quoted By: >>23283351 >>23286708

>>23282555
>>23282508
They issue 30mil USD this time, go and own your oshi and sexual harass her if you're nijifan or destroy niji if you are holobrony

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:26:34 No.23283336 Report

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>>23283205
seethe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:27:33 No.23283351 Report

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>>23283311
The real numberfagging starts now
Put your money where your mouth is nijiantis. Short TSE.Anycolor

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:28:05 No.23283372 Report

Quoted By: >>23283440 >>23283509

>>23282694
"Even if a certain VTuber were to retire, the impact on our revenue base would be limited, and we believe that the continuity and stability of our business is high." - Anycolor p 11 https://www.jpx.co.jp/listing/stocks/new/nlsgeu000006da6d-att/06ANYCOLOR-1s.pdf

It's a nice statement but losing a couple of the big names and nijisanji is pretty much dead in the water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:28:30 No.23283387 Report

Quoted By: >>23283432 >>23283505 >>23284129 >>23284406

>>23283250
>mass graduations of underpermorming livers
makes no sense, even if they underperform they still make money for 0 cost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:28:35 No.23283388 Report

Quoted By: >>23283500 >>23283509

>>23283270
The question now is, how are they gonna use the IPO money?
If they can take the market share from their competitors using their fresh money, then they will dominate the industry.
But if they can't, it's going to be a shitshow for the whole industry because the investors are going to be restless and telling the management to do everything necessary to make more profits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:29:26 No.23283405 Report

Quoted By: >>23284157

>>23281853
Merch is the best way to support them and the NijiJP watchers don’t really superchat unless it’s a special event.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:29:40 No.23283413 Report

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>>23283250
It depend in the industry, this is entertain industry so they only care about rating

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:30:36 No.23283432 Report

Quoted By: >>23283456 >>23283879

>>23283387
They have managers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:30:49 No.23283440 Report

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>>23283372
They lost Lulu and Gibara last year but it didn't affect them at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:31:50 No.23283456 Report

Quoted By: >>23283513

>>23283432
Manager is already at fixed number and salaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:33:44 No.23283500 Report

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>>23283388
squeeze livers for more events to sell merch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:34:16 No.23283505 Report

Quoted By: >>23283531 >>23283646 >>23302638

>>23283387
You know they got paid with salary right? Beside their revenue from donations and merchs.

That's why ex Niji ID still cling to the company despite them being treated like shit. It's good to have a side salary than nothing because salary in Indonesia is shit already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:34:25 No.23283509 Report

Quoted By: >>23283589 >>23283688 >>23283691

>>23283372
>It's a nice statement but losing a couple of the big names and nijisanji is pretty much dead in the water.
Not really, the only big name that would significantly hurt their financials is Kuzuha. Everyone else is pretty expendable and their fanbase would just move to someone else. On top of that the data shows most of their money comes from merchandise which varies in popularity. For example Shu is the worst performing member of Luxiem in terms of viewership and subs but his voicepacks sell very well. Sometimes a top tier vtuber doesn't get the best merch sales and vice versa because the metric for merch is how many gachikoi you have rather than how many casual fans. This is also why they don't generally fire underperformers, because their dedicated fans are still free money whenever they release voicepacks etc even if they rarely stream.

>>23283388
>The question now is, how are they gonna use the IPO money?
They'll probably use it to setup new business ventures. Keep in mind this is for Anykara and not just the Nijisanji project. They might be planning a different use for VR after Yumenographia failed or doing more 3D concert stuff or opening physical locations like cafes, shops, conventions, theme parks, etc. Expecting them to focus on competing with Hololive directly is a waste of time when the vtuber market is fragile due to Youtube's unpredictable whims. Expanding outside that market to spread their livers as virtual celebrities is probably much smarter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:34:28 No.23283513 Report

Quoted By: >>23283826

>>23283456
>Manager is already at fixed number and salaries
Yes? That's still a cost that gets split between the liver they manage. If one liver doesn't generate enough to cover the costs and they have to debut a new wave, they will assign that manager a new liver

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:34:54 No.23283531 Report

Quoted By: >>23283583 >>23284280

>>23283505
>salary
no they dont.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:36:55 No.23283583 Report

Quoted By: >>23283660 >>23283670

>>23283531
Yes they are. I don't remember who but one of Niji ID have said it themselves.
It's the same with Holo ID, they got paid monthly and got some bonus occasionally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:37:21 No.23283589 Report

Quoted By: >>23283660

>>23283509
Source that Shu's voice packs sell very well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:40:15 No.23283646 Report

Quoted By: >>23284280

>>23283505
Livers don't have salaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:40:34 No.23283653 Report

Quoted By: >>23283737

>>23281370
How much I have to buy to make hoshikawa legally obligated to have sex with me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:40:59 No.23283660 Report

Quoted By: >>23283814

>>23283583
Nijisanji doesn't pay salaries. The ID's were probably talking about their monthly paycheck from merch and youtube monetization shit. Both EN and JP have talked extensively about how they don't get a salary from Anykara just the profits they generate themselves or through merch.

>>23283589
I'm too lazy to dig through Twitter but the site they use for selling voice packs ranks them in terms of popularity and Shu's voice pack was the #1 in popularity for New Years because he did heavy fanservice, something he never does on stream.
Vox's voice pack was like 5th or 6th, because he does tons of fanservice on stream for anyone who asks so not as many people felt compelled to pay for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:41:13 No.23283670 Report

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>>23283583
no liver has said this, post proof or you're lying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:41:46 No.23283688 Report

Quoted By:

>>23283509
>Expecting them to focus on competing with Hololive directly is a waste of time when the vtuber market is fragile due to Youtube's unpredictable whims. Expanding outside that market to spread their livers as virtual celebrities is probably much smarter.
Yeah, expect more VN-like project and music label soon, or maybe they will make a fujo gatcha game, that shit will make big profit from china

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:41:56 No.23283691 Report

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>>23283509
>opening physical locations like cafes, shops, conventions, theme parks, etc
Make sense.
Knowing that their biggest revenue is from merchs, it's safe to say that they will maximize that income. They've already got a good brand in Japan and internationally (EN sphere), they just need to sell more merchs in various ways using that established brand.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:43:13 No.23283723 Report

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Apparently this up and cuming CEO just bought a 90% stake in Pomu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:43:38 No.23283737 Report

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>>23283653
30mil burgers, they issue 30mil this round, don't let dream be a dream anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:46:25 No.23283814 Report

Quoted By: >>23283939 >>23286079

>>23283660
Being first in relative rankings does not indicate a large amount of sales. He could have sold 20 and still be first if all the others sold less than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:46:46 No.23283826 Report

Quoted By: >>23283873 >>23302487

>>23283513
>If one liver doesn't generate enough to cover the costs
A streamer that has a solid around 1k viewers is already enough to get a decent income just by keeping streaming. Only few are under this line.
Also, why bother to fire those not perform very well to hurt your own brand? Constantly fire livers would generate more damage than reducing the cost. Their manager still would be in the company anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:46:56 No.23283829 Report

Quoted By: >>23283930 >>23283976 >>23284178

As a fan I'm a little scared of the implications. I'm not sure if it's the same in Japan as it is in America but public companies exist only to please the shareholders, if it doesn't increase profits and dividends then it should not be considered. See that classic Ford vs Dodge case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:47:28 No.23283840 Report

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So are you saying I should invest in Anycolor instead of buying merch and sending SCs? Reimu you will be mine. Legally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:48:39 No.23283859 Report

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Its actually doomed. Nijisisters we lost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:49:21 No.23283873 Report

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>>23283826
>Their manager still would be in the company anyway.
The manager could be managing a more profitable liver and the company wouldn't need to hire more managers to handle new waves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:49:49 No.23283879 Report

Quoted By: >>23284134

>>23283432
Managers are shared between multiple people

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:52:44 No.23283930 Report

Quoted By:

>>23283829
The current biggest shareholder(with almost 50%) is Riku himself, so it should be fine until he sells, at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:53:18 No.23283939 Report

Quoted By:

>>23283814
True but we'll never have official sales figures since they don't generally make that public. Back when they did custom voicepacks and they were limited to 100 copies you could see how many they sold just by putting them in your cart and seeing the max amount you could buy but they don't do those anymore.
It's safe to assume with their financial disclosures indicating merch makes more money than YT that Shu's voice pack sold really well. Even in the Lazulight days when they only had average 1k viewers most streams Pomu sold 100 custom voice packs for $100 each in only 3 weeks, that's like the only metric we're gonna get on that front unless they decide to release financials exclusively for EN's merch sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:54:38 No.23283976 Report

Quoted By:

>>23283829
I'm worried too but Japanese companies and investors are typically more conservative in their forecasting. You don't generally see the insane levels of speculation that you see in the US exchanges.
Either way though, worst case scenario my oshi graduates and reincarnates as an indie while retaining her entire fanbase so I don't really care that much.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:55:27 No.23283990 Report

Quoted By: >>23284064 >>23284071 >>23284096 >>23284226 >>23284518 >>23284678 >>23284681 >>23287022 >>23300042

>>23281370
Why are all of AnyColors biggest shareholders Chinese?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:58:50 No.23284064 Report

Quoted By:

>>23283990
Because the cover investors want a hand in both companies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:58:56 No.23284069 Report

Quoted By:

>>23283250
This may happen, and it worried me the most.
Also I suspect that those livers are still getting paid somehow, to keep them motivated to stream and also cost of replacing broken equipments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 09:59:00 No.23284071 Report

Quoted By: >>23284144

>>23283990
You can't just post a picture and say something that your own picture disproves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:00:13 No.23284096 Report

Quoted By: >>23284144

>>23283990
>SEAnig can't read
such many case huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:00:29 No.23284100 Report

Quoted By:

>>2328387
Let's say a manager costs $4k a month for a company (salary, social security, benefits, prorated costs of the resources that the manager uses).
The manager handles 4 livers, so each liver costs $1k a month for the company
A liver would need to generate $2k in revenue for the company to just break even (50% split) without factoring taxes. And companies expect to make profits for the money they invest, so that number needs to be higher
If a liver fails to be profitable for them, they would rather fire the failed liver and debut/assign a new liver to this manager, instead of incurring in losses or 0 profit while they have to hire more managers for their new waves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:01:21 No.23284129 Report

Quoted By: >>23284170

>>23283387
They still make money anon. I checked the lowest paid employees still paid 130,000 yen per month. Remember the zero earner still need to keep with their bills like internet (fast internet is expensive) and equipment costs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:01:31 No.23284134 Report

Quoted By: >>23284183 >>23284290 >>23284314

>>23283879
Let's say a manager costs $4k a month for a company (salary, social security, benefits, prorated costs of the resources that the manager uses).
The manager handles 4 livers, so each liver costs $1k a month for the company
A liver would need to generate $2k in revenue for the company to just break even (50% split) without factoring taxes. And companies expect to make profits for the money they invest, so that number needs to be higher
If a liver fails to be profitable for them, they would rather fire the failed liver and debut/assign a new liver to this manager, instead of incurring in losses or 0 profit while they have to hire more managers for their new waves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:02:01 No.23284144 Report

Quoted By: >>23284242 >>23286009

>>23284071
>>23284096
Niji copium in full gear

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:02:35 No.23284157 Report

Quoted By: >>23284272 >>23300632

>>23283405
I saw a video once and show how bad their merchandising game in a store went. Hololive covering most of the floor and Nijisanji only have one shelves and it's a mess. The guy who handle the merchandising deals in Nijisanji need to be fired.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:03:10 No.23284170 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284129
nijis have a salary?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:03:21 No.23284178 Report

Quoted By: >>23284248 >>23284433

>>23283829
Anon, that's not what the case meant, you're blowing this out of proportion. I just read that and Ford has no right to end dividends for preferred shareholders. Any reinvestment decision would need to be adjusted after preferred stocks are taken into account. He could have just bought those shares back if he want more control.
The only implication here is that niji's startup phase of burning money has finished and they are consolidating their power now. I expect that there will be no new branches in the future (no ES, no ID / KR reborn).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:03:34 No.23284183 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284134
Why not just not have a massively bloated corporate structure with layers of middle management

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:05:19 No.23284226 Report

Quoted By: >>23284247 >>23284338

>>23283990
>Japan, Singapore, HK, Dubai
There's no chink here you illiterate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:05:44 No.23284241 Report

Quoted By:

How do I buy enough Nijisanji to fire all the EN male fags?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:05:56 No.23284242 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284144
Nigger just fucking read.
In first there's the CEO, then some fund in the Caymans, a fund in Hong Kong then Tokyo, Tokyo, Singapore, Tokyo, Tokyo, Tokyo, Tokyo, Singapore, Tokyo, Virgin Islands, Tokyo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:06:06 No.23284247 Report

Quoted By: >>23284373 >>23285198

>>23284226
>Singapore and HK aren't Chinese
Bad news anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:06:07 No.23284248 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284178
They said they are now still considering open new branches in new areas and countries though. ES is one that is highly possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:07:01 No.23284272 Report

Quoted By: >>23284434

>>23284157
lmao, i can cheery pick any store when just restock the merch with holo and said holo merch is a failure too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:07:12 No.23284278 Report

Quoted By: >>23284602

>>23281370
Please explain the implications of this to someone who knows nothing about businesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:07:17 No.23284280 Report

Quoted By: >>23286586

>>23283531
>>23283646
Yes they do. If Livers only gained small amount or zero income they can't afford to pay their bills especially their internet bills (Streamer need fast internet) and electric bills (those equipment don't run on fumes anon) if they have no salary. The salary is there to cover necessary expenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:07:53 No.23284290 Report

Quoted By: >>23284406

>>23284134
That's not really how it works, managers are simply assigned more livers based on workload and resources. They have many staff working behind the scenes supporting everyone and the amount of support you get is already based on how much revenue you generate. Nijisanji has a informal points system where livers accumulate points based on milestones or doing basic things like voice packs, streaming regularly, doing sponsored streams, etc that can be redeemed for projects they want completed. The livers that never stream or underperform don't generate enough points to require a lot of support.

Since the ID/KR livers generate very little money or growth they don't need very much support. They probably have 1 manager for that entire group that just reviews their schedules and secures game permissions when requested.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:08:46 No.23284314 Report

Quoted By: >>23284406

>>23284134
The manager doesn't handle 4 livers, it depends on performance when Lazusydia was a thing they only had 1 manager, now the EN branch is more successful they have like 5-6 managers (going by the Noctyx predebut stream leak) and they are actively hiring more

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:09:35 No.23284338 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284226
First in the list is Riku obviously
Second one, LC, is Legend Capital, it's chinese
HODE HK LIMITED is owned by bilibili, it's chinese
Skyland Venture is owned by Riku
Sony is Sony
After that it's 2 individuals

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:10:44 No.23284373 Report

Quoted By: >>23284414 >>23284497

>>23284247
>Singapore
I wouldn't call a country which lets the US park their nuclear sub at its docks for months at a time and whose entire military policy is predicated on eventual US interference China-oriented (never mind the row with China over seizure of military equipment)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:12:06 No.23284406 Report

Quoted By: >>23284522

>>23284290
>>23284314
Jesus Christ, I'm dumbing down the numbers for the sake of the argument because some people think livers have 0 cost like >>23283387

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:12:25 No.23284414 Report

Quoted By: >>23284514 >>23284569 >>23285073 >>23285652

>>23284373

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:13:18 No.23284432 Report

Quoted By:

Well other than cost, it's also a question of the brand and its image
Will investors accept that a bunch of livers are roaming in the 2-300?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:13:23 No.23284433 Report

Quoted By: >>23284560 >>23284615 >>23284701

>>23284178
>I expect that there will be no new branches in the future (no ES, no ID / KR reborn).
That's a pretty retarded assertion considering companies only IPO when they have plans for heavy expansion. This will only speed up the Accelerate philosophy if anything.

Prediction: NijiES and NijiWorld will launch in the next 1-2 years. Existing ID and KR will be consolidated into the new World branch along with adding French, Russian, Filipino, Portuguese, German, etc all under a single unified brand and singular audition process. This will allow t hem to grab up all the talented 2views from those smaller regions without committing to an entire branch for those regions and give them greater flexibility in sponsorships and merch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:13:23 No.23284434 Report

Quoted By: >>23284597

>>23284272
Bruh, it was a big store in Japan, I'm not trying to shit on Nijisanji, even fans point out that their merchandises are same stuff but different artwork. Their merchandising game is lazy. Like they don't even care about making things unique.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:16:10 No.23284497 Report

Quoted By: >>23284810

>>23284373
SEAnig here, Singapore is still worrisome. They claim that they're loyal to ASEAN but so many investors brought their money from mainland to Singapore. We rather trust Vietnam even when they're commie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:16:58 No.23284514 Report

Quoted By: >>23284647

>>23284414
and they still have a US Carrier sitting in dock right now, your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:17:06 No.23284518 Report

Quoted By: >>23284678

>>23283990
So bilibili owns 7.34% of Anycolor...
You sure can make conspiracy theories with the Coco shit with this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:17:24 No.23284522 Report

Quoted By: >>23284574 >>23284586

>>23284406
Nijisanji is structured so that the cost of support staff isn't directly affected by livers being on hiatus or having low numbers. I already explained they prioritize support staff based on a liver's value/achievements so underperformers are basically on their own already besides very basic support. That kind of thing can be handled by interns and they already have job openings currently for interns and we know they're on 3 month contracts for 1000/yen an hour wage which is basically nothing. If you hire 3 interns to manage KR/ID or low performers like Hajime while training them to be full managers then it's cheap as shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:18:46 No.23284553 Report

Quoted By:

>>23282819
>as they become more "legitimate" in the eyes of other Japanese companies
keeping nippleman on board is going to create problems with that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:18:58 No.23284560 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284433
They also IPO so the owners can turn their theoretical valuation into hard cash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:19:25 No.23284569 Report

Quoted By: >>23284654

>>23284414
Ah yeah, but you holobronies will side with Taiwan(an island with 99% of chink) if it suits your narrative huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:20:06 No.23284574 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284522
Cool story bro, but it still costs money, it's not 0 cost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:20:47 No.23284586 Report

Quoted By: >>23284696 >>23287695

>>23284522
You still don't answer the question of how they support livers with low view counts and akasupa to foot their bills. Fast internet and electricity aren't cheap anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:21:18 No.23284597 Report

Quoted By: >>23284682

>>23284434
why changing when it will sell regardless, as if hololive mearch or any other company are any better

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:21:27 No.23284602 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284278
think of what happened to Current Year Blizzard or EA to get an idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:21:44 No.23284615 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284433
They already mentioned the goal of the IPO if you follow their twitter, all that expansion you mentioned? That'll be spend on mainly tech upgrades for JP 3Ds

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:22:17 No.23284630 Report

Quoted By: >>23284712

Is that really a good idea when they've shown a past tract record of failure like IN, dissolving ID and KR branch, and that cafe thing which I forget the name of. Unless they are willing to consolidate their talents and turn it into a battle royale where the top talents survive, that seems like a bad move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:23:07 No.23284647 Report

Quoted By: >>23284660

>>23284514
those goalposts look pretty heavy, need some help?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:23:26 No.23284654 Report

Quoted By: >>23284707

>>23284569
You do realize Taiwan want Republic of China right? The reason China and Taiwan at each other's throat is because Chinese republic supporters fled to Taiwan after they lost the war with Communist China and made Taiwan a Republic country and not Communist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:23:28 No.23284655 Report

Quoted By:

Nijifags are going to get fucking destroyed when they realise what going public does to companies lmao
Not to mention how they're getting more into ESG scores over there lately. If both Cover and Niji both go public just find another hobby, you'll save yourself some time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:23:45 No.23284660 Report

Quoted By: >>23284735 >>23284770

>>23284647
>Has US carrier in dock
>China oriented
pick oen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:24:21 No.23284678 Report

Quoted By:

>>23283990
>>23284518
lamo, I can't wait for Cover goes public soon after Anycolor's step like they always did and it turns out the biggest share holder of Cover is chink.
The cope of holobronies will be priceless

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:24:27 No.23284681 Report

Quoted By:

>>23283990
Wow. No Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street, JP Morgan, etc? Niji is Illuminati-free. for now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:24:27 No.23284682 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284597
That's the problem, it doesn't sell that well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:24:55 No.23284696 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284586
Do you think livers have their internet and electric bill paid by Nijisanji?
Unlike Hololive most livers in Nijisanji only do it part time. Many of them have side careers that pay their bills and just stream for fun. The ones who are reliant on Nijisanji to survive are the ones that get big numbers or have very reliable gachis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:25:05 No.23284701 Report

Quoted By: >>23284925

>>23284433
I don't think that is very sound. A group with a hundred language barriers is pointless at best. It basically asks them do you want to be NijiEN - second class citizen edition or largely cut off hoping your wave really takes off in your country. The second option is actually the better one considering Spanish language streamers are fairly big. But in that case just make NijiES.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:25:23 No.23284707 Report

Quoted By: >>23285106 >>23285129

>>23284654
So as Hongkong and Singapore as the later is an actually country

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:25:31 No.23284712 Report

Quoted By: >>23284805

>>23284630
Actually shedding the bad part is a good tactic to sell themselves to the investors. But of course the problem will always about management competency and to be honest I don't have much faith toward Nijisanji management.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:26:26 No.23284735 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284660
Reading comprehension, ESLfriend. Did he say anything about being "china oriented"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:27:33 No.23284770 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284660
are you one of those people who believe that ethnicity = country?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:28:38 No.23284795 Report

Quoted By: >>23284832

>Holo 1/12
>Cover 1/10
Why are they being brought up again?I don't recall OP talking about Cover IPO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:28:47 No.23284800 Report

Quoted By: >>23284860 >>23284863 >>23284925 >>23285147

>inb4 some absolute troll company buys shares and tells Anykara isn't inclusive enough and have them debut black chuubas

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:28:54 No.23284805 Report

Quoted By: >>23285139

>>23284712
>cutting your low perfomance department is bad
Are you fucking NEET and never work a day in your life or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:29:10 No.23284810 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284497
You are overlooking that these sorts of investors brought their money over as a way of extricating themselves from Chinese influence. This is the same reason China banned cryptocurrency.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:29:55 No.23284832 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284795
ask you holobronies friend first, they was the one bring that brony company here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:30:52 No.23284860 Report

Quoted By: >>23284925 >>23285886

>>23284800
>troll company
It's called ESG score anon, and they'll demand blacks, women, trannies, and all the chuubas to have one big stream for black history month and gay pride month. That's what the ESG is for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:30:58 No.23284863 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284800
Lets get Elon Musk to buy AnyColor and force them to shill Teslas

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:31:02 No.23284864 Report

Quoted By:

>>23281948
Tazumi and his accelerate fetish/quick shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:31:42 No.23284888 Report

Quoted By: >>23284924

>going public right before a major recession hits
Literally an exit scam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:32:50 No.23284924 Report

Quoted By: >>23285127

>>23284888
Japan is in permanent recession

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:32:52 No.23284925 Report

Quoted By: >>23284979 >>23285045

>>23284701
The benefit of having a singular branch with many languages is you basically have a monopoly on each language for a single liver. Sure their collabs will be largely EN or JP until they expand but consider how Pikamee and Hana were initially popular because they were the ONLY vtubers streaming in English at the time. Being able to take someone who streams primarily in French and give them the support of a large company gives them a huge advantage over the indies in that scene and will encourage all of those indies to apply for your future waves.

Spanish is definitely the most developed vtuber scene after ID and EN so it's probably a no-brainer that either Hololive or Nijisanji will launch a Spanish branch at some point. The only question is finding good enough support staff for them but there's so many professional Spanish speakers in the US/Canada with experience managing streamers that it wouldn't be that hard.

>>23284800
>>23284860
>t. has never watched Nijisanji before

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:35:11 No.23284979 Report

Quoted By: >>23285052

>>23284925
>>t. has never watched Nijisanji before
>He thinks it won't get worse than it is now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:38:15 No.23285045 Report

Quoted By: >>23285299

>>23284925
>ou basically have a monopoly on each language for a single liver.
That seems largely pointless. You're still going to need managers who can deal with that language (both from fans, other companies and general ESL-ness). Them avoiding their native language hurts their native growth, as nothing stops them just watching EN. With any EN fans disappearing when they eventually go hard in the other direction.

You've basically made the structure NijiJP -> World -> EN/ES/DE etc. When you could just have those branches and no middle man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:38:30 No.23285052 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284979
In what way? You can just...not watch the livers you're not interested in. I don't watch Kuzuha because I find 24/7 FPS game streams boring.
Adding more different kinds of entertainers is what an entertainment company is supposed to do. If they add some wigger girl that talks like a hood rat and jokes about sipping lean on stream I'll just not watch her streams and anti her until she graduates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:39:19 No.23285073 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284414
Singaporean chinks are multiple generations removed and all hate China

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:41:09 No.23285106 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284707
You don't even know history don't you. Why the fuck you're comparing Taiwan to Singapore? This is like comparing apple and orange

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:42:23 No.23285127 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284924
Longterm projected slowing of growth from population aging is not hte same thing as a recession, which is a period when economic growth is negative and usually lasts only a year or two.

And this is an exit scam because the Nikkei will dump hard, enabling Riku to sell his shit and pretend like he's just playing the game rather than taking the money and running since rainbow isn't going to be around in 5 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:42:35 No.23285129 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284707
Singapore was never a part of China, Brits colonised it together with Malaysia and imported a ton of laborers from China who then decided to settle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:43:00 No.23285139 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284805
There's a difference between cutting people off for saving cost and cutting people but make their efficiency suffer. You should know that if you actually a wagie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:43:24 No.23285147 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284800
Anykara literally already has trannies, a black chubba to get those africa bux wouldn't be out of character for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:45:23 No.23285198 Report

Quoted By: >>23285256 >>23285342

>>23284247
We’re Chinese by blood, but yeah people mostly hate those mainland Chinks. Also we’re the only good Sea country. Why? Because you’ve probably never heard of us on VT. There’s no SingaporeSchizo, probably because our tapwater is clean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:48:06 No.23285256 Report

Quoted By: >>23285281

>>23285198
But when are you banding together with HK, Maccau and the rest of Chinese SEA and AUNZ to retake the mainland?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:49:05 No.23285281 Report

Quoted By: >>23292579

>>23285256
The day will come, brother…

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:49:57 No.23285299 Report

Quoted By: >>23285432 >>23285695 >>23286131

>>23285045
The problem with creating branches for niche languages is they just end up like KR and ID where you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for talent because there just aren't enough talented individuals in the scene. At that point you damage the reputation/image of your branch by hiring people who are obviously way less talented than their co-workers.

Having a unified branch of multiple languages at least allows you to only need 1 entertaining Indonesian speaker per wave which makes the hiring process a lot easier and also draws all the Indonesian fans into supporting that person for the first few weeks after debut. This is in contrast to how waves are debuted nowadays where people split off into only watching their oshi even though you debuted 3 or 4 people for that language.

As far as support staff it's possibly an issue but could be solved through gradual hiring. Perhaps at first they only have EN/JP fluent staff too get it off the ground but slowly add staffers for those languages that can tap into the local scene more and communicate with local organizers and sponsors when the branch is at the level of being able to sustain it. This at least saves you the trouble of a situation like ID where they did tons of projects that didn't amount to anything because their viewer reach was too small.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:50:12 No.23285302 Report

Quoted By: >>23285414

>Nijisanji going public
>niggas over here discussing heritage, race and dumb shit
IPOs kill more companies than help them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:51:35 No.23285342 Report

Quoted By: >>23285506 >>23285699

>>23285198
Indonesian here, Not schizo, maybe yes. But you guys harboring corrupt people from Indonesia who run away to Singapore and hide there with their dirty money and Singapore govt was like "Oh come in, come in, spend your money here!" while giving the middle finger to Indonesian authority to extradite those criminals back.

Maybe not schizo, but bunch of greedy cunts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:54:34 No.23285414 Report

Quoted By: >>23292409

>>23285302
/vt/ - Politically Incorrect

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:55:01 No.23285432 Report

Quoted By: >>23285551 >>23286587

>>23285299
there are talents in KR/ID, any color just didn't invest in scouts to find the next Kobo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:56:58 No.23285481 Report

Quoted By: >>23291949

>>23281738
what kpis are they using here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:57:55 No.23285506 Report

Quoted By:

>>23285342
what can we say, capitalism speaks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:59:30 No.23285547 Report

Quoted By:

What a shitshow, I just wanted to watch cute girls hags streaming and now this shit happens
This seems to be the fate of all corporations, no one ever does it out of love for the craft anymore, I can only hope this won't backfire

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 10:59:43 No.23285551 Report

Quoted By: >>23285619 >>23286094

>>23285432
They did find plenty of talents like Mika, Hana, Bobon, Taka, Nari, Bora, Suha, Seffyna, etc though.
The issue is they also filled up their ranks with tons of people that are pretty unremarkable and that damages the brand as a whole as they end up looking like amateurs. What I was getting at is while it's very easy to find a Kobo or a Bora in a single audition, it's much harder to find 3 or 4 people that meet that level of quality to debut a wave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:02:52 No.23285619 Report

Quoted By: >>23285762

>>23285551
why is it that they had 2 years in the scene and couldn't even manage a million subs then? clearly their biggest "talent" in Hana doesn't even have 300j subs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:03:51 No.23285652 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284414
this is like saying that Americans are the same as brits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:05:10 No.23285695 Report

Quoted By:

>>23285299
>Having a unified branch of multiple languages at least allows you to only need 1 entertaining Indonesian speaker per wave
Who then needs a specific manager (possibly a new hire), who then has to choose between ignoring their wave to pander to their region or be a lesser EN. Mixed language wave would mean the appeal is all muddied. Waves give viewers a chance to try out everyone, but still have some shared interest in their given group. This increases general attachment. You've made it so every wave is a lottery on the design you like speaking your language, and less likely to stick around to find out who is their favourite. Like a design? Better hope they aren't Spanish. This is an awful idea. Niji waves aren't big, if you can't find 3 okay streamers in a region I'd just give up there. You've not actually eliminated the branch structure but created awkward sub branches within a branch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:05:17 No.23285699 Report

Quoted By: >>23286169

>>23285342
That's what you get for those legal redtape on foreign investment. Even your indonesian corporate families have their HQ in SG because your taxation sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:07:41 No.23285762 Report

Quoted By: >>23285875 >>23285891 >>23285910

>>23285619
Because raw talent doesn't translate to popularity if the branch as a whole isn't popular.
Kobo was riding in on HoloID already having 2 people with 1mil+ subs that they leeched from the rest of Hololive's established success. Niji ID had basically 0 support from JP and no real overlap in subs, because unlike Hololive their Indonesian branch tried to focus on local Indonesian growth rather than building an international audience. Many of NijiID streamed exclusively in Indonesian or only ever collabed with other Indonesians so they had almost no visibility outside of the Indonesian scene which was very small when they initially launched.

Even HoloID was basically at Niji levels of 2view before JP/EN exploded in popularity and elevated them to 3view and eventually 4view status. Which by the way NijiEN was already doing with ID until the branch got thrown in the trash. People shat on Mika for leeching off EN so often but she hit 100k subs faster than anyone else in NijiID history and has the highest ccv of ID, sometimes even exceeding some of the EN's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:11:47 No.23285875 Report

Quoted By: >>23286348 >>23286668

>>23285762
so if NijiID had more Mikas then it wouldn't have been scrapped? I doubt it. And Kobo would've been successful even if she was in the earlier ID gen, it just would've taken longer.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:12:11 No.23285886 Report

Quoted By:

The vicious cycle of vtubing... nijis are forced to stream, hold concerts, and dress up in mascot characters for shaking down children. Eventually they graduate and are harvested for IP and contract breach fines. The cycle continues.

>>23284860
>ESG score
>azn stock exchanges
wwwwwww it'll literally be something like "the other day we hired a woman, she works in accounting, and we give her 2 weeks maternity leave. Family planning services are provided free and encouraged for all our female Vtubers."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:12:21 No.23285891 Report

Quoted By: >>23286348

>>23285762
>Kobo was riding in on HoloID already having 2 people with 1mil+ subs t
If that were the case then Council should be growing way faster than Myth did. Successive waves often don't do better than the last. New hires bringing something to the table does.

>focus on local Indonesian growth rather than building an international audience. Many of NijiID streamed exclusively in Indonesian
Kobo mostly speaks indog. She gets 7k streams where no english is spoken. While the collab ban is still active.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:13:05 No.23285910 Report

Quoted By: >>23286348

>>23285762
Makes sense. But how does this explain Kobo's success by pandering to the ID market when her ID senpais just floated around 3k viewers or less? Of course Hololive marketing is a factor, but Kobo gained viewers from being ID instead of being a Holo. Surely this should mean NijiID should have a similar case since they have a more diverse cast to choose from.

Note I'm not using Kobo as a blungeon, but simply comparing the two since they have the same target market as opposed to ID2's more EN-centric focus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:16:40 No.23286001 Report

Quoted By:

>>23282036
Cyberpunk is a bad example though. They were shilling it for over a decade with no results. At some point the people paying your bills want what they're paying for and not endless promises. They fact it was broken is equally on them for being total incompetent failures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:16:41 No.23286002 Report

Quoted By:

>>23281468
Time to invest

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:16:59 No.23286009 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284144
holotard caught lying and actually doesnt know how to read kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:19:01 No.23286079 Report

Quoted By: >>23286772

>>23283814
Not really because some of their VPs make onto the JP site ehich is also ranked. Luxiems white day VPs beat out all the other white day VPs in Nijisanji. They were ranked in such a way that Luxiem is together and there are groups of Nijisanji together, not indiviuals so its hard to get any exact match for popularity but its pretty obvious Luxiem is selling a decent amount of merch since they do well in the JP rankings and you can look at the merch number in OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:19:35 No.23286094 Report

Quoted By:

>>23285551
>Hana
>Talented
Pick one. All she has is her luck and her dad. She's lucky she's playing Doom at the right time and the right audience. Her dad charm attract more people as well. But other than that she blew her chance to be big.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:20:03 No.23286108 Report

Quoted By:

How do I buy their stonks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:20:22 No.23286119 Report

Quoted By:

>>23282694
You just take a day and make some coffee and slowly read through it all. It's a marathon not a sprint.

That said I'm not reading this shit, I ain't getting paid for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:20:57 No.23286131 Report

Quoted By:

>>23285299
This kind of argument might work but then we remember HoloID is thriving now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:22:03 No.23286169 Report

Quoted By: >>23286231

>>23285699
Said the Singaporean guy with far stricter red tapes and ridiculous laws (No Durian, No Bubblegum, No Blowjob)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:22:46 No.23286191 Report

Quoted By: >>23286259

>>23281392
Dear seanig, your net worth is less than 20$. What are you talking about?
But the better question would be is why are you slacking and sitting on this website? You haven't finished your daily quota of collected palm oil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:23:01 No.23286200 Report

Quoted By: >>23286235 >>23286408 >>23286701

I'm buying 23%. What kind of feedback do you want me to pass on to the shareholder meetings?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:24:04 No.23286231 Report

Quoted By: >>23286322

>>23286169
And no blasphemy laws and no beheadings. Join the 21st century already you barbarian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:24:06 No.23286232 Report

Quoted By:

>>23281535
>Cover will follow suit by this time next year
Bold of you to assume Cover will still exist by the same time next year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:24:12 No.23286235 Report

Quoted By:

>>23286200
Create chuuba porno branch asap

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:25:05 No.23286259 Report

Quoted By: >>23286349

>>23286191
okay rumao "daily quota of collected palm oil"
even as seanig i find that funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:27:24 No.23286322 Report

Quoted By: >>23286392

>>23286231
No ASEAN countries have beheading execution you dumbass. Also I don't think it's wise to do blasphemy in Singapore even when there's no law about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:28:29 No.23286348 Report

Quoted By: >>23286406 >>23286569

>>23285875
If NijiID had more people that could consistently maintain 500-1000 ccv like Mika then it absolutely would not have been scrapped. The branch's management was very dedicated to promoting them in the ID scene. They pumped out songs and merch and voice packs and lots of "event" type streams like singing relays whenever possible. It was only scrapped because even after all of that effort looking for local growth they never achieved profitability.

>>23285891
Council has too many problems to list off for why they weren't as successful as Myth. But suffice to say HoloID's gen 3 and HoloX didn't make the same kind of offensively stupid mistakes as Council and that's why they benefited more from the debut buff generated by their senpais.

>>23285910
I'd suspect it's because Kobo's viewers were already casual ID/EN/JP viewers and many of them in fact preferred the EN or JP streamers over ID in the same timeslot despite being Indonesian themselves until she showed up. Most people in the parts of Indonesia with good enough internet to watch streams speak English already and many Indonesian weebs speak Japanese even. You see them all the time commenting in the EN girls' chats. They like Kobo not because she speaks Indonesian but because she's cute. Maybe if NijiID melded better with their JP branch or if their EN branch launched back in 2020 they'd have more reach like Hololive. After all nobody watches vtubers for local representation, they're watching it because they're weebs that want weeb content and Kobo fits the "moe" niche better than any of her ID senpais.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:28:31 No.23286349 Report

Quoted By:

>>23286259
Talking about palm oil, the ban on exporting cooking oil is in motion tomorrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:29:52 No.23286392 Report

Quoted By: >>23286457

>>23286322
>no government beheadings
>schizoprenic civvies do it anyway to each other
Last I checked quite a few people got jailed for blasphemy over there. Nice modern country you got there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:30:30 No.23286406 Report

Quoted By: >>23286484 >>23287616

>>23286348
>Shitting on Council
>Council still making big $$$
I don't see the problem here.
Like I said, Nijisanji downfall is their Nokia tactic failed big time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:30:31 No.23286408 Report

Quoted By:

>>23286200
give roa a big salary so she streams again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:32:33 No.23286457 Report

Quoted By: >>23286550 >>23286785

>>23286392
LOL you're saying as if beheading happened every Tuesday or something like that.
Meanwhile your silly laws are actually proved and written on the book by your govt council members.
I means seriously, no BJ? Why niggling on your people's private life so much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:33:46 No.23286484 Report

Quoted By:

>>23286406
What part of that post is shitting on Council? It's objectively true they didn't grow as well as Myth and that is an anomaly in Hololive. The last time that happened was Gen 4 being weaker than Gen 3 and that was also for obvious reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:36:22 No.23286550 Report

Quoted By:

>>23286457
>sir we're not barbarians we only behead people once a month

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:36:55 No.23286569 Report

Quoted By: >>23286803

>>23286348
id here yes thats true about kobo.
i suspect the other id is the same like me ,
we take refugee in holo jp or EN because gen 1 and gen 2 was just trash ,
not a single hint of cuteness and so boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:37:35 No.23286586 Report

Quoted By: >>23286821

>>23284280
wtf are you smoking? some livers treat vtubing as a side gig.
Holos get salary but livers dont

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:37:36 No.23286587 Report

Quoted By:

>>23285432
1 fuji chink worth million of SEAnigs in money

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:39:09 No.23286634 Report

Quoted By: >>23286689 >>23287052

>SEAfags arguing which country is less 3rd world
This is funny.
Spoiler: they're both shitholes, move to a real country like England or America or Texas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:40:29 No.23286668 Report

Quoted By:

>>23285875
>kobo wouldve been successful even in earlier id gen,
>ID1?
no chance, they have to scrap the path, 80% EOP and JAPs audience, id vtuber market are not that big, leaving kobo on 500 - 1k viewers
>ID2?
maybe, but viewers are still on 50% EOP and JAPS, thats why ollie are massive before the anituber yab era, unless windah found her and funneling the views sooner

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:41:17 No.23286689 Report

Quoted By: >>23286801

>>23286634
>England with with shit foods and knife attacks
>America with their profiling and gun attacks
>Texas.......

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:41:46 No.23286701 Report

Quoted By:

>>23286200
holobrony or nijinigger? if you're nijinigger, ask them to have sub in their japanese show in their jp channel or translate it to EN channel, if yyou're holobrony then just destroy them from inside

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:42:00 No.23286708 Report

Quoted By:

>>23283311
>destroy niji if you are holobrony
rumao
roru

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:44:26 No.23286772 Report

Quoted By: >>23286864

>>23286079
Still no numbers. The premise was that Shu sell a large number of voice packs. Unless you can say that the JP sold a certain amount and Shu sold more than that then you no solid proof that he sold a large number of voice packs. All the rankings tell you is that Shu sold more than the others, this is true if he sold 20 and the other sold 10 or he sold 1000 and the others sold 500. So you have no concrete proof that his voice pack sold well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:44:58 No.23286785 Report

Quoted By: >>23287046

>>23286457
that is why they don't get rob and kill in the back alley like your money shithole

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:45:15 No.23286801 Report

Quoted By: >>23286976

>>23286689
You're infinitely more safe in American than anywhere in SEA. Even downtown Baltimore is safe if you carry some distraction KFC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:45:17 No.23286803 Report

Quoted By: >>23286918 >>23287032

>>23286569
Nah, you traitors only avoid ID because you think it's cool to join the big kids and ignoring local product. Just like typical Indonesian who prefer to buy Luis Vuitton bag even when locally made bags are high quality as well and much cheaper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:46:26 No.23286821 Report

Quoted By:

>>23286586
This imply they already coming into Nijisanji a rich guy/girl, and that's not always the truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:48:05 No.23286864 Report

Quoted By:

>>23286772
I don't really care about appealing to your autism. People who aren't dumb can extrapolate what it means that they do well on the japanese merch store all on their own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:49:02 No.23286887 Report

Quoted By:

>thread on /vt/
>its full of /pol/acks
if i wanted to deal with that many poles i would move to germany and work for a plumbing company

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:50:16 No.23286918 Report

Quoted By: >>23288191

>>23286803
You don't exactly buy designer bags for functionality. It's literally all about the prestige. If you wanted something actually cheap and sturdy a literal weaved wooden bag is the way to go.
As for vtubers, you just watch whoever's vibes to you in a language you can understand. National pride has nothing to do with it, only your preference and the kind of content you want to see.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:52:08 No.23286971 Report

Quoted By: >>23287542 >>23299475

>the owner of a PREGNANCY Q&A app, owns 0.46%
What did they mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:52:13 No.23286976 Report

Quoted By:

>>23286801
>If you are white or asian you get mugged and shot by niggers
>If you are a nigger you get shot by the police or gang niggers
Nice country you got there

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:53:47 No.23287022 Report

Quoted By: >>23287542

>>23283990
>Tokyo
>Cayman Isles
>Hong Kong
>Tokyo
>Tokyo
>Singapore
>Tokyo
>Tokyo
>Tokyo
>Tokyo
>Singapore
>Tokyo
>British Virgin Isles
>Tokyo
How to say you don't know Japanese without not saying you don't know Japanese

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:54:02 No.23287032 Report

Quoted By: >>23287227

>>23286803
so what , thats the fact
just look at them so fucking boring
i dont watch for the "national pride"
i spend my time on actual entertainment

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:54:35 No.23287046 Report

Quoted By:

>>23286785
>Implying there's no crime in Singapore
Oh you sweet summer child
Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRSYfGBBZ68

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:54:39 No.23287052 Report

Quoted By:

>>23286634
>move to real country
>england, america or texas
BHAHAHAHAHA yours are funnier flip, try to visit phillies and texas for once, better stay in your 3rd world country

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 11:56:26 No.23287097 Report

Quoted By: >>23287453

>indogs namedrop random nationalities hoping they hit the target instead of addressing their own inadequecies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:00:06 No.23287227 Report

Quoted By: >>23287431

>>23287032
i know right nijiid are so fucking boring, no wonder they got axed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:07:24 No.23287431 Report

Quoted By:

>>23287227
oh yeah nijiID is extra boring
i feel like watching paint dry is more entertaining

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:08:06 No.23287453 Report

Quoted By: >>23288273

>>23287097
I don't know why SEAnig comes here to brag about their number when they are even poorer than spic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:11:35 No.23287542 Report

Quoted By:

>>23287022
>how to say you don't know how companies or offshore tax havens works without saying you don't know how companies or offshore tax havens work
refer >>23286971
the Cayman islands company is a Legend Capital fund, straight outta Beijing.
Hode HK is a bilibili subsidary.
So (not counting minor shareholders) 17.6% Chinese owned is nothing to sneeze at.
Given that Niji's CN arm (Virtuareal) is a significant portion of the company I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised by the bilibili ties.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:12:10 No.23287555 Report

Quoted By:

>Arguing about Chinese
>Arguing about Indo/Sing
What is with today?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:13:16 No.23287586 Report

Quoted By:

>>23281370
It's over, time for the era of extreme corporate greed to strike vtubing now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:14:11 No.23287616 Report

Quoted By: >>23288326 >>23288396

>>23286406
Kinda funny to say Nijisanji downfall when this IPO literally shows that they earn shittons of money last year. Even doomposter in /#/ changes their narrative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:14:53 No.23287637 Report

Quoted By: >>23288745 >>23289233

So how can I buy the shares?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:17:05 No.23287695 Report

Quoted By:

>>23284586
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:23:52 No.23287879 Report

Quoted By:

>>23282754
>and the inappropriate contents in their stream/video.

So just how much more restrictive is Niji about to get to keep themselves looking 'clean' for the suits?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:30:45 No.23288063 Report

Quoted By: >>23300323

>>23282754
>inappropriate contents in their stream/video
Can't find that part, but then again my keigo is weak and my legal Japanese is nonexistent. Can you give me a page so I can at least rikaichan it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:34:21 No.23288191 Report

Quoted By:

>>23286918
And you know how cringy it is to see an Asian new rich to buy all kind of bullshit because of "muh prestige" and wasting their money in Macau.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:36:08 No.23288273 Report

Quoted By:

>>23287453
>Poorer than spic
>Argentina is in the shit hole they even call the police when they deposit money as much as $200

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:37:40 No.23288326 Report

Quoted By: >>23288574

>>23287616
>Relying on local market only
>Also relying on CNfujo money
That's not healthy and you know that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:39:56 No.23288396 Report

Quoted By: >>23288574 >>23289026

>>23287616
The one thing it clearly demonstrates is that it's merch and supas that make investing into a chuuba "worth it", not CCV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:40:31 No.23288417 Report

Quoted By: >>23288587 >>23288692 >>23303041

wait for cover to do the same thing and everyone will praise it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:45:38 No.23288574 Report

Quoted By: >>23289026

>>23288326
>local market
>CNfujo money
You contradict yourself anon.
Also, by your logic, I can claim Holo as
>Relying on unicorns and incels
Not healthy too.
>>23288396
But it's growing, not reclining. It's just funny to claim a company earning tons of money and still growing is "downhill".

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:46:02 No.23288587 Report

Quoted By:

>>23288417
open wide newfag
https://warosu.org/vt/thread/S6005879
next time you post your worthless opinion do some archive reps first. and that shit is just from rumors that holo might do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:49:26 No.23288692 Report

Quoted By: >>23288782

>>23288417
This, global will praise it like the second coming and /vt/ will become /biz/ overnight. Retards like the cherrypicker above are just denying the inevitable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:51:16 No.23288745 Report

Quoted By:

>>23287637
bizfag here, if you want to buy in the share market, post IPO? Find a broker who trades on Tokyo Stock Exchange, buy shares on/after the listing date, 8 June 2022. I suggest you do this, it's what I'll be doing.

You have very little chance of getting into the IPO, it's fucking tiny $ value, and IPOs are usually only accessible to high net worth individuals on a "don't call us we'll call you" basis. If your Japanese securities firm is listed on page 8 of the document and you are an oil baron, then ask them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:52:23 No.23288782 Report

Quoted By:

>>23288692
>post link to thread
>NO YOU ARE CHERRYPICKING
have you tried not being new and a faggot ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 12:59:19 No.23288992 Report

Quoted By:

I'm going to buy enough anycolor stock to make Rosemi mine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 13:00:11 No.23289026 Report

Quoted By:

>>23288396
Exactly.
>Met Channel / 小森めと(https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCzUNASdzI4PV5SlqtYwAkKQ)
>253k subs
>2350 median CCV
>611$ in superchats last 7 days
>ayamy あやみちゃんねる(https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCr9p1ZjLKgfaoqNorY7PiWQ)
>68k subs
>300 median CCV
>1115$ in superchats last 7 days
>>23288574
most people I've seen used CCV(and temporary sponsor pull-outs because of nipple drama) to claim said "reclining"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 13:01:49 No.23289088 Report

Quoted By: >>23289206

Whatever, screencapped your posts, I'll see you in a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 13:04:45 No.23289206 Report

Quoted By:

>>23289088
>holding a grudge for 1 year
are you a woman ?
if so posts tits and
L O N D O N

O

N

D

O

N

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 13:05:36 No.23289233 Report

Quoted By:

>>23287637
you can't, unless the brokers trying to burn some shares in the far future or you are a faggot with liquids

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 13:14:58 No.23289551 Report

Quoted By:

>>23281370
Good, I'm more than ready to short the stock!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 13:16:16 No.23289602 Report

Quoted By: >>23289723

Watch as nothing significant changes. At most Niji chuubas will probably start shilling NFT's of themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 13:19:48 No.23289723 Report

Quoted By: >>23292036

>>23289602
Considering how much normalfags hate NFTs that could actually be significant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 13:44:07 No.23290663 Report

Quoted By:

the only thing I can get from this is that the whole model is extremely volatile. Nijis hadn't had any successful gens prior before Luxiem, but even then, Luxiem is just one or two person. The others are getting carried. If Kuzuha or any top tiers retired like Lulu or Gibara, the value of the company would drop because even maimoto/gwelu/VALZ boys can't carry shit for the whole company.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 14:17:58 No.23291949 Report

Quoted By: >>23292312

>>23285481
>what kpis are they using here
Number of Nijisanji VTubers
YouTube playback time (million hours)
Not sure on last one, it's number of anycolour IDs / accounts. Maybe total subscribers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 14:20:13 No.23292036 Report

Quoted By:

>>23289723
JP normalfags dont hate NFTs at all

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 14:23:12 No.23292155 Report

Quoted By: >>23293467 >>23294927 >>23298423 >>23303210

P&L figures
Further detail on pg 106 - total staff salaries for 2021, is about 3.5 million USD (466,079,000 JPY). Likely just salaried staff (managers, tardwranglers, legal, AP, AR, HR) not including any chuuba earnings which would make more sense to count in the COGS figure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 14:27:14 No.23292312 Report

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>>23291949
Not total subscribers. It's the number of registered IDs in their own shop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 14:29:13 No.23292409 Report

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>>23285414
>/vt/ - Virtually Incorrect
ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 14:33:28 No.23292579 Report

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>>23285281
fuck off, they can have it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 14:55:34 No.23293467 Report

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>>23292155
Thanks bro. Are you doing the balance sheet as well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 15:03:45 No.23293793 Report

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>Move to a real country like America
>Moves to America
>Gets shot immediately
I think I'll go back to my shithole

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 15:32:47 No.23294927 Report

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>>23292155
Are you going to do the one ending in 2022 also?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 16:53:40 No.23298423 Report

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>>23292155
Wonder how this year's would look like, they went up by like 10mil in profit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:05:05 No.23298951 Report

Quoted By: >>23299014

Didn't expect Tazumi to have less than 50% of shares.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:06:12 No.23299014 Report

Quoted By: >>23299981

>>23298951
Tazumi owns Skyland Ventures, so he actually owns 50.01%

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:07:47 No.23299083 Report

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Press F to pay respects or S to spit on its grave
S

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:12:27 No.23299321 Report

Quoted By: >>23299475

>Shitposters narrative that Nijisanji is full of chinks investor is falling apart
Wait until Cover corp IPO's and everyone found out that they are being funded by Huawei and everyone lose their shit, would be funny if that really happens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:15:31 No.23299475 Report

Quoted By: >>23300042 >>23300087

>>23299321
>falling apart
How? See >>23286971, chinks have over 17%, the next biggest share after accelerate man himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:27:28 No.23299981 Report

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>>23299014
Ain't he gonna sell part of that for the IPO? I don't understand much of stock exchange.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:28:42 No.23300042 Report

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>>23299475
I like how it went from "all" in >>23283990 to "these two" here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:29:34 No.23300087 Report

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>>23299475
>have over 17%
>full of chink
Japs company and public figures have more than 20% based on that page so what does this mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:32:20 No.23300251 Report

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>>23281370
I don't like this anons.
This always ends badly for the talents and ultimately for the consumer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:33:40 No.23300323 Report

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>>23282754
Kek all those 3d lewd and loli streams are gonna have to pulled if do they want that money
>>23288063
page 36

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:33:42 No.23300328 Report

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>>23281370
Are any of the talents getting stock options? I want Iinchou to become a billionare

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:38:06 No.23300529 Report

Quoted By: >>23302457

>Chinks get majority share
>appoint borderline jewish beancounters to board
>first thing they do is fire everyone that doesn't generate big money and force everyone to pander hard
>enormous backlash from fans
>UPD8 2.0
>Nijisanji slowly becomes irrelevant until they finally go bankrupt
Screencap this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 17:40:07 No.23300632 Report

Quoted By: >>23301495

>>23284157
Nijisanji's run their own webstore, most merch outside of collabs with other companies is sold directly by Anycolor. Cover on the other hand has only started playing catchup there with their own store and had previously relied on either promos or made to order event goods

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:00:06 No.23301495 Report

Quoted By: >>23301834 >>23302728

>>23300632
>Nijisanji's run their own webstore
That actually made Nijisanji worse. First of all if they run their own store, then why their merchandising game so weak? They can make unique product for each Livers that will be desired by fans and collector alike but they don't do that. I mean look at Korone new merchandise, she made a punching bag!

It's like the merchandising team for Nijisanji was just sitting around, picking their nose waiting for the clock to hit 5 then agreed on a square acrylic keychain for ALL Livers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:08:09 No.23301834 Report

Quoted By: >>23302165

>>23301495
>on a square acrylic keychain for ALL Livers
You have to be either a newfag or larping as Niji fan. Even the most recent Togabito goods have a special necklace and sacoche. The girls' unit goods have designed T-shirts for each unit.
The acrylic keychain is the standard line-up for birthday goods by the company, but livers can design their own goods and sell it at any time they want.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:09:21 No.23301887 Report

Quoted By: >>23302221

>>23281948
Trust the plan. Never question the plan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:15:45 No.23302165 Report

Quoted By: >>23302576 >>23304413

>>23301834
>T-shirt
>Unique
Pick one

Not that hard to swap some JPEG and print it on the shirt. Coming from country with huge garment industry for export and local, T-shirt is dime in a dozen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:16:47 No.23302221 Report

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>>23301887
CONSOOOOOOOOOOOM

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:17:36 No.23302254 Report

Quoted By: >>23302646

When and where can I start buying stock?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:19:08 No.23302314 Report

Quoted By:

>>23282881
Fat rat >>> Skinny truth

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:19:36 No.23302325 Report

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>>23281500
$

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:21:06 No.23302391 Report

Quoted By: >>23302438

>>23281948

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:22:06 No.23302438 Report

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>>23302391
fucking lol'd
ACCELERATE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:22:43 No.23302457 Report

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>>23300529
Most IPO have see in my life were just slave to their shareholders. So, maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:23:22 No.23302487 Report

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>>23283826
They "fire" them by making their lives shittier until they quit on their own.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:25:22 No.23302576 Report

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>>23302165
Then what about the necklace? Or lunchbox for VALZ anniversary? Heck, they even made a fucking watch for Sanbaka anniversary.
https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/detail/SSZS-17129?ima=1947
You just know nothing about Niji goods bro.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:26:45 No.23302638 Report

Quoted By:

>>23283505
> niji
> paying salary

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:26:54 No.23302646 Report

Quoted By:

>>23302254
June 8th is the IPO, but good luck getting in if you don't own a multi million dollar company in Japan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:29:05 No.23302728 Report

Quoted By: >>23302982

>>23301495
Koro-san's punching bag is made to order for a limited time. once the sales window is over, that's the end of the revenue stream relating to the product. why is Cover merchandising game so week that they can't afford stock a product year round? no wonder they don't want to go public, publishing the required report on their financials would expose how they're falling apart without Coco and Rushia to carry them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:36:01 No.23302982 Report

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>>23302728
Usually when I come to these thing, the limited time is probably just a market trick to create the illusion of rarity. Many company do this to boost their sales, and it tend to work most of the times. Niji also do this from time to time. However, I do believe Niji does better in merchandising since they have their own store.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:37:39 No.23303041 Report

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>>23288417
> j-just wait till Cover does it too
https://rentry.org/Nijicope
straight off the list

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 18:42:26 No.23303210 Report

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>>23292155
Uh have you checked the value of the yen lately? Nowadays it's closer to 130 yen to 1 usd

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Anonymous Thu 28 Apr 2022 19:14:19 No.23304413 Report

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>>23302165
That depends on what kind of T-shirts you are making, Sukoya's t-shirt for example is one of the sleekest pieces of vtuber merch I have seen.

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