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Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 02:50:28 No.23384205 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>23384346 >>23384591 >>23385001 >>23386297 >>23389764 >>23392665 >>23392745 >>23397373

>Good voice
>Original song is shit
>The only good one isn't even a proper original song
How can this be? Should she hire better artist to write her song? Will nothing ever tops Watame Lullaby? Did Watame do something wrong? What's your verdict /vt/? She literally wasted her potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 02:51:24 No.23384250 Report

Quoted By: >>23384453

She should dabble on rock and power metal. Being "good" isn't enough, she needs an identity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 02:52:50 No.23384346 Report

Quoted By: >>23384786 >>23392172

>>23384205
"My song" was great

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 02:54:44 No.23384453 Report

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>>23384250
Middle gens are becoming irrelevant as they are sandwiched between ‘OG’s’ and the newer gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 02:56:53 No.23384591 Report

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>>23384205
Don't care, she's cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 03:00:32 No.23384786 Report

Quoted By: >>23389829 >>23397373

>>23384346
It wasn't bad but it's very generic and pretty forgettable. It doesn't have much staying power like other members original song. I basically forget about it after the song ends. Watame lullaby was better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 03:04:28 No.23385001 Report

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>>23384205
Nobody cares because her father doesn't even care about her

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 03:10:04 No.23385334 Report

Quoted By: >>23385465 >>23385546 >>23402451

>generic and pretty forgettable
that's the most retarded criticism
it just doesn't apply
we talking vtuber music not alt-post-shoegaze and who are you to judge anyway
if it's catchy it's good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 03:12:11 No.23385465 Report

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>>23385334
I love watame's singing but most of her songs dont even have a memorable tune to hum. I agree with OP there being a problem with her writers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 03:13:32 No.23385546 Report

Quoted By: >>23385998

>>23385334
Mayday is catchy and that's it. I don't deny she's a good singer but she kinda just floats around without a genre of choice to reliably expect from her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 03:15:25 No.23385661 Report

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She unironically needs to get into makingg eurobeat shit, her number for Polka's birthday was fucking great just as when she sings that stuff for WNF

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 03:22:28 No.23385998 Report

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>>23385546
mayday and Good Morning Song is the top 2 for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 03:28:35 No.23386297 Report

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>>23384205
Fuck you Watamelonhead is great

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 04:37:35 No.23389764 Report

Quoted By: >>23392141 >>23392275 >>23393848

>>23384205
Sheep still has a lot of untapped potential to explore. All her numbers are pure 100% solid floor of dedicated fanbase. She works her "family experience" like a well trained wife.
She still didn't try to:
>Stream on a reasonable time slot for her JP audience.
She streams from 10pm to 6am JP time. She shouldn't be as popular as she is.
>Drop or reduce time spent on SC reading.
This "convenient sheep" is still handling SC like a 2view. Reads and properly responds/reacts to every single superchat she receives.
>Stream buff games
Still picks up games she likes. I've never seen so many greynames the day she did Vampire Survivors: easy 18k peak. Never touched the game again.
>Aim for mainstream appeal on her music
Nearly all her 2021 songs were fanservice to her watamates. Only the myth roid songs aimed for mainstream sound. Her BOY cover makes me cry but it won't do as good as Laplus' new cover which sounds to be much in tune with current mainstream demand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 04:38:46 No.23389829 Report

Quoted By: >>23390779 >>23391571

>>23384786
and whose orisongs would you say are your top 3 most memorable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 04:47:09 No.23390284 Report

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Everlasting soul was good

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Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 04:56:36 No.23390779 Report

Quoted By: >>23391029 >>23391804

>>23389829
Mori
Suisei
Korone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:01:41 No.23391029 Report

Quoted By: >>23391804 >>23395954

>>23390779
>mori

Opinion discarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:11:23 No.23391571 Report

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>>23389829
I'd say unison but more because of the MV being an eye orgasm than the song being better. Howling is also up there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:15:27 No.23391804 Report

Quoted By: >>23395954 >>23406618

>>23390779
bad taste

>>23391029
yeah Howling is one of the best orisongs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:21:03 No.23392141 Report

Quoted By: >>23392275 >>23392414 >>23392440 >>23392515 >>23392532 >>23392914 >>23393284

>>23389764
It's both hilarious and tragic how sometimes her streams are 2/4 gameplay and 2/4 SC.
Her stream of The Closing Shift was 3hrs gameplay and 4 FRICKING HOURS reading SC while last sunday she made a 10hrs stream only reading SC.
Not even a 2view would go so far

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:21:26 No.23392172 Report

Quoted By: >>23402244

>>23384346
not memorable, not catchy enough, missing hooks. Compare it to something like fact/template those songs have a part that is stuck with the listener after the first play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:23:50 No.23392275 Report

Quoted By: >>23392532 >>23394900

>>23389764
>>23392141
I sometimes worry for her, she’s not even my oshi but i keep hearing how the sheep reads every single sc and that sounds like a fucking nightmare

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:26:17 No.23392414 Report

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>>23392141
>2/4 gameplay and 2/4 SC
anon, your fraction reps…

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Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:26:42 No.23392440 Report

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>>23392141

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:28:00 No.23392515 Report

Quoted By: >>23392624

>>23392141
should've followed suisei, fuck SC reading kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:28:14 No.23392532 Report

Quoted By: >>23393061

>>23392141
>>23392275
Watame and Kiara are the same type of streamer, they'd rather spend hours just reading SC because they're obsessively dependent on their fanbase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:29:55 No.23392624 Report

Quoted By: >>23392867

>>23392515
Suisei hates her fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:30:36 No.23392665 Report

Quoted By: >>23393050

>>23384205
Her songs rly are too generic. I can't really remember of anything aside from Cloudy Sheep, Lullaby and the meme songs.
I think she would do well making humorous songs, alternative j-pop, electro pop or just go wild and incorporate Kyary PP.
I don't know perhaps I'm just bored of every vtuber song sounding the same...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:32:30 No.23392745 Report

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>>23384205
Maybe she can try modern rendition of enka songs. She really pops off when she sings that one enka song, I don't know the title.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:35:06 No.23392867 Report

Quoted By: >>23393169

>>23392624
no, it's stupid to spend more time reading SC than the real content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:36:07 No.23392914 Report

Quoted By:

>>23392141
>2/4 gameplay and 2/4 SC
my head hurts....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:38:44 No.23393050 Report

Quoted By:

>>23392665
Cloudy Sheep is memorable for how bad it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:38:53 No.23393061 Report

Quoted By: >>23393188

>>23392532
And that’s a good thing!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:41:14 No.23393169 Report

Quoted By: >>23393188 >>23393314

>>23392867
The real content is the fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:41:46 No.23393188 Report

Quoted By: >>23393314

>>23393061
>>23393169
t.watamate kfp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:43:50 No.23393284 Report

Quoted By:

>>23392141
you mean 1/2 and another 1/2 ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:44:36 No.23393314 Report

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>>23393188
I disagree with >>23393169, I just know that I could listen to Kiara talk for hours about absolutely nothing. Superchats are just a convenient excuse for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 05:55:12 No.23393848 Report

Quoted By: >>23394900

>>23389764
>She has a 100% dedicated fanbase
>So here's everything she could do to alienate them
God you are a retard, good thing you are not her manager
Her schedule clearly works for her and her fans so if anything she should try to attract more people who can also watch her at that time
Collabing with EN and doing her eigo reps would work wonders for her, she's already been doing the first so doing something like a duolingo stream or a collab where Kiara teaches her english would work wonders for her if she really wanted the numbers
The only problem I could see with this is that Ina and Kiara already have their own dedicated fanbases at around the same hours so there could be some competition there but that's still nothing compared to the highly disputed JP hours

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Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 06:14:11 No.23394900 Report

Quoted By: >>23396469 >>23402481 >>23406082

>>23392275
Of course I worry too but then look at how far she got by following her own BIG PLANS and I can only be proud of choosing her as my oshi.
> No yab under her belt. Is one of the board's biggest darlings
> Top streamer of 2021 by hours streamed
> Permanent top 10 by viewed hours
> Best solo live concert (WNF at Zepp). She wowed us with pro-level choreo and audiovisual excellence.
> She still has the only full feature anime MV in holo (this consideration excludes the last thing INNK did for Azki)
> Music gets very good numbers compared to other vtubers in the same debuff genre.
> Always setting new ambitious goals for herself... She wants 1.5M subs in 2022... plz help her
This year started with both Miko and Korone (her holo oshi) in tears saying how hard they believed in her Budokan dream and how special her relationship to her fans is.

>>23393848
It's cute how you try to insult me and the post such a brain dead take. There are MANY trilingual talents in holo and none of them are getting an abnormal boost from that fact.
Also, any conversation about sheep should have a basic understanding of two widely accepted premises:
- Streaming performance does not correlate to music career success
- The Budoukan dream is a Japanese music career milestone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 06:33:07 No.23395954 Report

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>>23391029
>>23391804
you motherfuckers asked for memorable, not good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 06:43:25 No.23396469 Report

Quoted By: >>23401934

>>23394900
she should get a rockstar vocal coach instead of the fairy princess vocal coach

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 06:59:34 No.23397278 Report

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I've said it before at babatare thread; Sheep is still in her honeymoon phase as chuuba, an early stage in success like new a rapper with song about money/fame or lovestruck Taylor swift or with japanese example: the highschool girl j-rock phase of SCANDAL band and considering her past career this phase gonna be a long one. She still gonna churn out orisong about her love to her fans for the foreseeable future, and then she will stop once she see that she needs to branch out (thats what artist/singer do) like what she did when she choose to auditioning for hololive because her utaite's path not going anywhere. And that time might be closer than you/we/are/I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 07:00:32 No.23397314 Report

Quoted By: >>23402363

Aimai Chocolate is an earworm, I'm surprised it's not more popular. There was a period where it felt like she was doing it at every opportunity though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 07:01:52 No.23397373 Report

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>>23384205
>>23384786
No, it was good. You're just a mid who lets /mu/ dictate your opinions to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 07:03:02 No.23397434 Report

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all of her songs are pretty solid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 07:55:09 No.23399858 Report

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Bruh my song, holidays and rainbow are good tho
New song mid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 08:47:07 No.23401934 Report

Quoted By:

>>23396469
Her coach made loads of progress with sheep. She has a good voice and her technique has been evolving a lot.
Then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoYms1LesvE
Now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNcTOp1vdhI

More recently she's been flexing kami poi on the original key: https://youtu.be/1mWtstLcV-4?t=148

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 08:55:14 No.23402244 Report

Quoted By:

>>23392172
stellar stellar by Miko is quite good. that's the joke but it shows how catchy Suisei's song is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 08:59:12 No.23402363 Report

Quoted By:

>>23397314
same, one of my favorites of her song

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 09:02:06 No.23402451 Report

Quoted By:

>>23385334
If it is catchy it is not forgettable, those two words are essentially antonyms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 09:02:56 No.23402481 Report

Quoted By: >>23404192

>>23394900
> She still has the only full feature anime MV in holo
What? Marine blew her out of the water with Set Sail.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 10:03:10 No.23404192 Report

Quoted By: >>23406273

>>23402481
Marine's anime MV is the best we saw so far, but the song is 2min longer.
I'm thinking that the MV production budget was limited not only for being action packed, but also because the song production itself for Set Sail was far more expensive, as there's a full orchestra, choir and big name composer behind it... so sacrifices had to be made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:11:25 No.23406082 Report

Quoted By:

>>23394900
>only animated MV
Holo Alternative…

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:17:17 No.23406273 Report

Quoted By:

>>23404192
This. Marine is far more ambitious with her projects. Ahoy! is her anthem, the theme song everyone associates with her forever, Unison was unique and caught everyone's attention. Set Sail is her anime opening that brings everything together. Marine not being the best singer doesn't matter, what she does next still excites people more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Apr 2022 11:27:36 No.23406618 Report

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>>23391804
Howling?

I tried listening to it 4 times and still can't remember anything except it has an endless running scene.

Watame's rap is the key.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5n1zqsvfXo

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