>>24568969Again you are reductive. If I make meal out of a recipe using ingredients X, Y, and Z, then a friend of mine makes a similar meal using ingredients X, Y, and A because of me, then the context shows that there is a genetic connection between these two practices. Yagoo has publicly stated that Hololive's practices are idol-inspired. You are saying that because some Canadians made a meal that included ingredients D, Q, T, and Y in an entirely different social context, that the Y in my friend's meal had nothing to do with me. The concept of generational waves of female entertainers sold as idols does not occur in a vacuum. A real life schoolgirl's sukumizu that she wears thoughtlessly because it's school regulation is not otaku. A mainstream mangaka who is a lolicon and draws a girl in sukumizu is still drawing from otaku media, even if his manga outsells One Piece.
>K-popK-pop draws certain practices from idol culture, it's true. However, in large part it expels what made those idols appeal to otaku. Cannot be said of AKB48, Love Live, or IM@S, all of which retain to a greater extent their otaku appeal. Certainly, normalfag popularity always comes with some concessions. But I freely acknowledge Nijisanji retains far more otaku appeal than K-pop.
