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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:06:02 No.2502171 View View Reply Original Report

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How well of are the VTubers? How will the industry grow moving forward? How will indies survive?

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:12:18 No.2502269 Report

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MY LINKIES STAY STINKY

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:15:23 No.2502312 Report

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>>2502171
Considering the recent mass appeal of cryptocurrency amongst all ages, perhaps a token of some kind could be implemented to serve for straight-to-the-tuber donations? That'd be cool.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:20:06 No.2502388 Report

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>>2502312
Too obvious

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:22:27 No.2502421 Report

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>>2502171
The ones that make it can be really well off, and supposedly you don't even need to be that big to make money off of it.
>How will the industry grow moving forward?
Rig prices are getting insane and riggers are booked for months in advance. We're going to see a lot of people making models of their own. It absolutely will keep growing though.
>How will indies survive?
Most of them aren't in this to survive or even make money in the first place. Remember the vast majority of livestreamers are streaming to less than 10 viewers.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:23:45 No.2502437 Report

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>>2502171
>>2502312
Economics... has changed

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:25:27 No.2502458 Report

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>>2502312
Yeah, what about some sort of token that could facilitate grass roots-support amongst fans of vtubers internationally? I think an indirect decoupling from fiat is something highly desirable, and so long as the medium that the vtubers themselves receive is somewhat mainstream, say, a top 10 cryptocurrency for example, this could play both the pragmatic monetary and niche community angles!
This is really cool actually, I think I might develop a token with this in mind, I have some experience with making rugpulls. NFTs, anyone?

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:27:52 No.2502498 Report

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>>2502458
Add a little self serve to your rugpull and you'll make millions.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:35:52 No.2502637 Report

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>>2502498
VTUBE has been made recently, has a roadmap, comfy wallet distribution and based autismo dev. It will include pretty much every idea throw up around a vtuber coin. Vtuber NFTs, direct donations, vtuber NFT gacha, all that shit. Currently sub 1c, don't miss out.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:41:45 No.2502745 Report

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>>2502458
How about the #3 crypto currency soon to be #2?

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:43:18 No.2502784 Report

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>>2502637
>NFT Gacha
hmmmm.
What's an NFT?

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:43:39 No.2502791 Report

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every single human who ever seen a vtuber stream will be locked up in bauxite mines to generate income for their favorite vtuber.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:45:06 No.2502822 Report

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>>2502791
Are the mines located in the Malta countryside?

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:45:07 No.2502823 Report

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some great ideas in here ngl

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:46:59 No.2502871 Report

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>>2502171
I heard from a reputable source that Kiara makes 20% more than her nearest competitor, Ina.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:50:02 No.2502955 Report

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>>2502823
based

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 10:56:49 No.2503081 Report

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>>2502171
>The only real answer
https://www.pixivision.net/en/a/4557

Money wise, most of them are on barrowed time since they are no better than glorified wage slaves. The really successful ones already makes money regardless if they stream or not. Subs and SC are just meaningless things that numberfags gloat over with no understanding on the business model.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 11:35:35 No.2503677 Report

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 15:15:07 No.2509683 Report

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>>2502458
Wasn't that the goal of BATs?, I mean, if the girls opened a BAT account in their stream, that will be just it

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 15:19:23 No.2509800 Report

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>>2502171
>How will the industry grow moving forward?
1.New tech
No one is watching this shit for long if the L2D and 3D tech remains stagnant
2. Male vtubers get their shit together
Nijisanji cant be the only agency that gets males right. Other agencies and male indies need to figure this shit out

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 15:22:33 No.2509886 Report

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>>2502171
>How will the industry grow moving forward?
build their own streaming platform

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 15:33:02 No.2510171 Report

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>>2502871
Ina ina ina.....

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 15:33:15 No.2510175 Report

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>>2502171
The top ones make more money in a year than you will in your entire life. Please be sure to show your support though sankyu.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 15:37:33 No.2510280 Report

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>>2502312
1) There are already hundreds of shitcoins - just appropriate one of them?
2) dlive.TV is already this.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 15:37:52 No.2510286 Report

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>>2509886
i mean i can see the appeal considering they'll be able to remove the 30% youtube cut but then they'll lose the ability to grow their audience.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 15:42:40 No.2510418 Report

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>>2503081
I don't think that is really as universally applicable as you might think. Take a look for a second at how much her channel made in superchat when she says she doesn't make a living off of that.
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCGcD5iUDG8xiywZeeDxye-A

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 16:04:51 No.2510971 Report

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>>2510418
Have you seen how much Kizuna has made from SCs?

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 16:09:10 No.2511073 Report

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>>2510971
Yeah I am just pointing out that the interviewee saying they don't make their living off superchat doesn't make much superchat to begin with. It's kind of obvious? Where as when you have someone pulling in hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in superchat there is probably a much higher chance they can make a living off it.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 16:19:25 No.2511295 Report

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There's a huge difference between those who do it professionally and the indie scene. Those who do it professionally and are sponsored, or even ultra popular quasi-independents who have tons of subscribers etc... do very well.

It seems like streaming overall. There's a niche that does very well and there's a sub-niche of that that is pushed by a management / talent agency sort of thing specifically to market and generate these identities. Then there's a larger group of long term, high quality, popular independents who are few in number but have put a lot of time, money, energy into it and also got lucky to find and keep an audience. The bottom of the pyramid is most people who are just doing it for fun who have a few viewers at most, and those who may want/need to make a living at it but for several reasons haven't been able to do so.

I don't imagine its something that you're going to be able to just start out and say "yep, going to make a lot of money doing this. Its my new profession" fro mthe beginning unless say... you're a voice actress who got picked up by one of these specific management talent agencies or some shit.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 16:21:44 No.2511352 Report

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>>2502458
VTUBE is the answer to this and the progress looks pretty good ngl

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 16:24:23 No.2511436 Report

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>>2510286
>but then they'll lose the ability to grow their audience.
clips will still exist though, they can be posted on any platform, and they are the most popular type of content and they are what hooks people in the first place anyway

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 16:40:43 No.2511862 Report

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>>2511295
>you're a voice actress who got picked up by one of these specific management talent agencies or some shit.
Isee what you doing?

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 16:42:37 No.2511909 Report

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>>2511352
YUMMY!!

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Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 16:48:52 No.2512038 Report

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>>2511073
They are still making vast amounts more elsewhere.

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