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>>25141335
She’s right, but that doesn’t mean she should say it, let alone in a public discord filled with HER fans. If you really want to make it as a chuuba—and by that, I mean cultivate a large group of fans who’re willing to give you money and support your content—then playing into parasocialism is almost a necessity. There’s a reason why GFE and BFE VTubers make so much damn money. If Kana wasn’t stupid, she’d know to keep these things to herself, as anyone with an audience probably filled with lonely shut-ins who rely on a fake relationship with their favourite streamer to feel happy should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 10:45:20 No.25141645 Report

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>>25141335
I mean she's not wrong. Especially the last paragraph.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 10:47:45 No.25141693 Report

Quoted By: >>25141794 >>25148959 >>25153779 >>25155460

>>25141621
>>25141645
She agreed with you at one point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 10:52:18 No.25141794 Report

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>>25141693
>Solution is liying.
What an amazing person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 10:52:43 No.25141810 Report

Quoted By: >>25142550

>>25139369
The henreader model didn't skyrocket her viewerbase as much as she thought, so her motivation died with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 11:21:01 No.25142550 Report

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>>25141810
Her new model made me feel unease, like some creepy doll. Old model was perfection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 12:23:24 No.25144354 Report

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>>25139369
whore

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 13:48:27 No.25147525 Report

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>>25139369
the twitch venture

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 13:56:41 No.25147978 Report

Quoted By: >>25148421

>>25141335
>expect favours for your action
Does she think people who act as a vtuber will do it for free and not expecting favour in the form of money?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 14:05:31 No.25148421 Report

Quoted By: >>25148710

>>25147978
Donating to a vtuber is a tip for services already rendered, not payment for future services.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 14:10:29 No.25148710 Report

Quoted By: >>25148924

>>25148421
tip? in what world?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 14:11:42 No.25148796 Report

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>>25141584
how did anyone watch this bitch?
how the fuck did she even get big?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 14:13:55 No.25148924 Report

Quoted By: >>25149033

>>25148710
In sane people world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 14:14:27 No.25148959 Report

Quoted By: >>25149033 >>25149088 >>25161030

>>25141335
>>25141693
Is it lying if it never gets brought up or acknowledged at all? I agree with what she said but the easiest solution is to just keep your mouth shut and keep your roommate separate from your vtuber persona.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 14:16:00 No.25149033 Report

Quoted By: >>25149331 >>25153021

>>25148924
Your worid doesn't exist. Who even tip random girl to play game and entertain them?

>>25148959
It is lying and unfaithful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 14:17:01 No.25149088 Report

Quoted By: >>25164258

>>25148959
What is roommate? Is it the real life form of vtuber?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 14:21:46 No.25149331 Report

Quoted By: >>25153454

>>25149033
>Who even tip random girl to play game and entertain them?
I do and many more people as well.
Why do you donate to vtubers then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 14:40:25 No.25150445 Report

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>>25139369
depression

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 15:18:30 No.25152847 Report

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>>25148796
Nachoneko model

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 15:21:11 No.25153021 Report

Quoted By: >>25156479

>>25149033
It's absolutely not lying. It's only lying if you say things like "I've never kissed anyone~" "I've never had a bf, but I only need you guys!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 15:21:43 No.25153059 Report

Quoted By: >>25159421

>>25148796
same face syndrome with gura

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 15:28:53 No.25153454 Report

Quoted By: >>25153585

>>25149331
That's the fun part, I DON'T

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 15:31:24 No.25153585 Report

Quoted By: >>25153914

>>25153454
So you're just a poorfag SEAnigger talking out of their ass.
Why do you think anything you say matters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 15:34:39 No.25153779 Report

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>>25141693
>solution is lying
Or you could, you know, not have a boyfriend while streaming
And also keep yourself pure until marriage (to me)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 15:37:06 No.25153914 Report

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>>25153585
It doesn't, but neither does yours.
This is just a pointless thread on a retarded website, are you really this disfunctional that you truly believe what any of us say matter even the smallest bit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:02:28 No.25155235 Report

Quoted By: >>25155847 >>25161377

>>25141621
No, she's not.
They aren't obligated to provide content, but they are obligated to not be an asshole or waste people's time on stupid drama & shit.
And expecting people to not grow attached to a vTuber is idiotic for vTubers whose whole gimmick is to be sympathetic.
And most of all, if a vTuber's real personality turns out to be crap, that's the vTuber's fault, not the fans'.

But I don't blame her for being immature at that age.
Notice how the hags never get caught posting stupid shit like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:07:15 No.25155460 Report

Quoted By: >>25166332

>>25141335
>>25141584
>>25141693
She's right about everything here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:11:16 No.25155652 Report

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Didn't she throw a dedicated fanartist under the bus? A relatively well-known one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:15:54 No.25155847 Report

Quoted By: >>25156431

>>25155235
>And expecting people to not grow attached to a vTuber is idiotic for vTubers whose whole gimmick is to be sympathetic.
If you get attached to a chuuba, that's no one's fault but your own and it's up to the chuuba if they want to tolerate that or not. Most of her antis are used to getting the hololive treatment where they just tolerate everything so being presented with a chuuba that doesn't tolerate parasocial bullshit pisses them off.
And that's where her vocal group of antis on /vt/ come from, they don't know what it's like to interact with a chuuba that isn't held back by corporate management.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:27:57 No.25156431 Report

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>>25155847
I never said it wasn't the fault of the individual viewer.
That's obviously true.
It's just dumb as shit for a Vtuber to expect it to not happen, or get upset that it does.
Like stepping in an ant-hill and getting pissed about the ant bites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:29:08 No.25156479 Report

Quoted By: >>25156560

>>25153021
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lie
>Something that misleads or deceives
The purpose of a lie is to deceive or mislead, so simply omitting information can be considered a lie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:30:46 No.25156560 Report

Quoted By: >>25156775

>>25156479
Post your SSN or you're a fucking liar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:35:37 No.25156775 Report

Quoted By: >>25157053

>>25156560
LMAO i guess I'm a liar too just like Kana ;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:39:31 No.25156973 Report

Quoted By: >>25157097 >>25164428

>>25139369
She rode on the hype of an advertisement campaign by a start-up (Tsunderia) indie company, built up a fanbase, then burned the bridge with that company. +1 menhara point. Then after she went independent with her original model she was incredibly abrasive on Discord. +1 menhara point. Kana then dumped her original fanbase on YouTube, left for Twitch and then dumped her original model. +2 menhara points. 4/3 menhara points, full strike out! Growth prospects in shambles, original fanbase completely alienated, and shed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:41:36 No.25157053 Report

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>>25156775
By your definition yes, everyone is a liar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:42:30 No.25157097 Report

Quoted By: >>25157562

>>25156973
>Kana then dumped her original fanbase on YouTube
You know people can watch on more than one streaming website, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:53:18 No.25157562 Report

Quoted By: >>25163563

>>25157097
There is so much wrong with this. First point being, the audience already has a service that they prefer. If the streamer has an audience on YouTube, 90% won't transfer over to Twitch. Because what they normally view is on YouTube. Second point, is building identity and maintaining culture, the audience that the streamer knows on YouTube will shape how they interact with chat. That YouTube interaction will hinder growth when trying to capture the Twitch audience; or visa versa. Third point, stability if a streamer is in a growth phase going on hiatus, and dumping a platform will not bode well for future prospects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:10:33 No.25158339 Report

Quoted By: >>25158416

>>25141584
As someone that's used youtube since 07, youtube sucks absolute ass now. They constantly try to get you to pay a monthly fee for things they used to offer for free, and that's only the tip of the bullshit iceberg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:12:28 No.25158416 Report

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>>25158339
Both YouTube and Twitch suck major ass, platform loyalty is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:34:22 No.25159333 Report

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>>25158416
Yeah pomf is better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:36:48 No.25159421 Report

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>>25153059
Literally this, I watched mana a fair bit and only time she started to build momentum on her channel is when the algorithm pushed her and people noticed “oh hey she looks like Gura!” To the point she had to go on a drunken rant about it lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:39:46 No.25159513 Report

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>>25148796
>Cute Model
>Loli based
>"Woe is me"
>"I'd stream more if I could afford xyz..." (Proceeds to get 600 donated to her during undertale.)
Rest is history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:21:19 No.25161030 Report

Quoted By: >>25166466

>>25148959
This. "Don't ask, don't tell" sounds reasonable enough. The problem is that schizos (like a significant portion of this board) will go digging into roommate stuff and then have a meltdown if they manage to find anything. You can't expect a chuuba to dedicate their entire life to pandering to unicorns and you can't expect them to scrub all their personal data off the internet either. I can understand wanting them to not talk about having a boyfriend in their streams or chuuba social media, but if you go digging into stuff you're not supposed to, then that's on you.

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Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:29:42 No.25161377 Report

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>>25155235
>Notice how the hags never get caught posting stupid shit like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:53:36 No.25162270 Report

Quoted By: >>25164520

Wasnt there rumors she was going to redubut under another model? She seems to have burned up all her goodwill though im pretty sure shed be in 2view territory

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:57:31 No.25162429 Report

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>>25161377
>1 hag
>every other time it's not a hag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 19:24:45 No.25163563 Report

Quoted By: >>25164768

>>25157562
its like a 50/50 coin flip, when vtubers that were on youtube move on to twitch and completely kill their channel by letting it collect dust.

50% that they'll get a new following and ditch their old fanbase like consumables
50% that they'll still face the same doom of being 1 or 2views and them killing their youtube fanbase didn't help at all.

maybe there's more but, eh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 19:42:08 No.25164258 Report

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>>25149088
Unironically, kill yourself, newfag nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 19:45:55 No.25164428 Report

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>>25156973
Based summarization

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 19:48:03 No.25164520 Report

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>>25162270
I think this site mentally broke her after reading what everyone says about her

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 19:53:21 No.25164768 Report

Quoted By: >>25166161

>>25163563
Depends on how they do it.
What Kana did was to simply stop streaming on Youtube from one day to the next. It took months until she at least made a short video announcing that she'd moved to Twitch. If you actually want your viewers to follow you from one platform to another, this sure as hell isn't how you do it. Perhaps she did it on purpose, I don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 20:27:25 No.25166161 Report

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>>25164768
There's no real tell, my best bet is that she did it on purpose, I mean, she already hated YT and the people that came from there. There's a really good chance she did it on purpose to shake the YT fanbase off her tail (lol).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 20:31:44 No.25166332 Report

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>>25155460
And now she’s dead lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 20:33:44 No.25166397 Report

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>>25139369
She's still around?????? How?????

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 20:35:49 No.25166466 Report

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>>25161030
>You can't expect a chuuba to dedicate their entire life to pandering to unicorns
If you’re making enough money to support yourself on this shit then yes they can. Don’t like like it, don’t try to gachikoi farm. Whores that try to double dip deserve the burns they inevitably receive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 20:39:04 No.25166593 Report

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>>25148796
>model
>Gura's step sister
>loli white fox
>Cute voice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 20:44:07 No.25166801 Report

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>>25161377
She's a hag for sure, but still has the mind of a high school girl. She's only a hag in age only

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