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Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:23:27 No.25156216 View View Reply Original Report

Talent >>>>>> Hardwork
Talent ALWAYS trumps Perseverance.
Prove me wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:24:36 No.25156272 Report

Quoted By: >>25156689 >>25160428 >>25160492

things go viral for literally no reason

just look at morbius

neither talent nor hard work mean shit, just luck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:25:47 No.25156329 Report

Quoted By: >>25159324 >>25176662

>>25156216
Sana has talent and refuses to stream ever or use said talent but Koyori has no talent and streams constantly.
Koyori is the better streamer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:26:35 No.25156366 Report

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>>25156216
Luck*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:30:39 No.25156555 Report

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>>25156216
if hololive is the wwe of vtubers, she is brock lesnar, just go to work a few days a year to collect the paycheck while everyone else works all days

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:32:34 No.25156645 Report

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>>25156216
Talent and luck is an undeniable part.
hardwork can only get you so far without any of the above.
even hololive success was brought by a Christmas miracle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:33:45 No.25156689 Report

Quoted By: >>25156782

>>25156272
Morbius (or at least the idea of it) going viral has a very specific reason behind: mockery at its poor quality. People are making fun of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:35:49 No.25156782 Report

Quoted By: >>25156907 >>25157072 >>25157205

>>25156689
it's still making fucking bank

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:38:23 No.25156907 Report

Quoted By: >>25157024

>>25156782
>it's still making fucking bank
No, no it isn't. The box office returns have been complete dogshit and people making fun of it online isn't generating any profit for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:40:57 No.25157024 Report

Quoted By: >>25157362 >>25161538

>>25156907
>The box office returns have been complete dogshit
cope, it made more than twice its budget

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:42:04 No.25157072 Report

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>>25156782
lol
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:42:33 No.25157099 Report

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>>25156216
Hard working is a jew meme. It is the talentless way to achieve success (in a minor scale).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:44:09 No.25157156 Report

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>>25156216
shup up hoshino

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:45:09 No.25157205 Report

Quoted By: >>25161055

>>25156782
If that's true, which I seriously doubt, it still has nothing to do with what I said. Bad movies can make money. Good movies can be financial failures. I didn't say the reason for being memed was it failed at making money, I said it was of its poor quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:48:24 No.25157362 Report

Quoted By: >>25157373

>>25157024
Protip: that's not "making bank", that's the BARE MINIMUM to be considered viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:48:45 No.25157373 Report

Quoted By: >>25157715

>>25157362
keep coping, retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 16:56:25 No.25157715 Report

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>>25157373
This is a lost cause

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:06:34 No.25158155 Report

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>>25156216
There are too many factors involved to make such a broad statement. All talent really is in the end is pursued interest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:11:27 No.25158374 Report

Quoted By: >>25158491 >>25160418

>>25156216
Talent and luck. Pretty much.

Hard work is there only to make the plebs think being abused by the system will pay off some day because of some cosmic truth.

If you're smart you'll work hard on yourself: your voice, your body, your charisma, your work ethic, so when the opportunity arises (luck) you'll rise to the occasion (talent)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:14:02 No.25158491 Report

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>>25158374
Well said anon. I would give you a firm ass smack if I could.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:16:35 No.25158603 Report

Quoted By: >>25158969

>>25156216
Ayame has no talent though. She just has a cute voice and laugh.
Other than that she's lazy and can be quite a cunt. Desperate weebs, especially in the Holo random, will just forgive everything if you're cute enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:24:48 No.25158969 Report

Quoted By: >>25159158 >>25159230

>>25158603
>She just has a cute voice and laugh.
That's what talent is. Things you can't or don't have to learn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:29:54 No.25159158 Report

Quoted By: >>25159284

>>25158969
By that logic everyone is talented in some respect.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:31:56 No.25159230 Report

Quoted By: >>25159284

>>25158969
That's not what talent means anonchama...
Having a beautiful face or having long legs, is not a talent

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:32:22 No.25159242 Report

Quoted By: >>25162613

>>25156216
Work smart not hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:33:15 No.25159284 Report

Quoted By: >>25159524

>>25159158
Yes? Doesn't mean all talents can earn you money or make you famous.
>>25159230
>the natural endowments of a person
>a special aptitude

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:34:02 No.25159324 Report

Quoted By: >>25159864 >>25163534

>>25156216
suisei exists. suisei succeeds. your argument is invalid.
>>25156329
rent free. take your meds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:39:57 No.25159524 Report

Quoted By: >>25159558

>>25159284
Are you retarded? A cute voice is not an endowment and even less special "aptitude".
Hundred of millions people have cute voices. Hell even 3/4 of Hololive have cute voices.
If everybody is talented then nobody is. A talent is supposed to be such because it's different from the norm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:40:43 No.25159558 Report

Quoted By: >>25159627

>>25159524
What a retarded cope post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:42:48 No.25159627 Report

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>>25159558
>Loses the argument
>"N-no you!"
Ogey moron

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 17:50:01 No.25159864 Report

Quoted By: >>25161307 >>25162530

>>25159324
>suisei exists. suisei succeeds.
tryhard carried by her talented coworkers, despite being part of the elders, she did absolutely nothing to put hololive on the map unlike Miko Matsuri FBK or Haato and now cash in on the fame she didn't contribute to.
At least Azki has the decency to not larp as a diva.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:03:00 No.25160366 Report

Quoted By: >>25178364

>>25156216
what talent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:04:15 No.25160418 Report

Quoted By: >>25161343

>>25158374
>Hard work is there only to make the plebs think being abused by the system will pay off some day because of some cosmic truth.
>If you're smart you'll work hard on yourself
So which is it, retard? Does hard work matter or not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:04:26 No.25160428 Report

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>>25156272
oh no no no anon is morbing out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:05:49 No.25160492 Report

Quoted By: >>25181409

>>25156272
Talentless, lazy losers such as yourself always latch on those instances of pure luck paying off to excuse your own failures in life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:18:47 No.25160942 Report

Quoted By: >>25161363

>Cute avatar
>Cute girly voice
>Act retarded
>Have a big company

Recipe for success in the industry

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:19:05 No.25160951 Report

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>>25156216
Marketing trumps all of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:22:10 No.25161055 Report

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>>25157205
This, just look at marvel movies. Poop but made billions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:27:51 No.25161307 Report

Quoted By: >>25161754

>>25159864
>at least Azki has the decency to not larp as a diva.
this. holy shit, why the fuck does suisei act like that? it's insufferable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:28:55 No.25161343 Report

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>>25160418
Learn2read. I'll spoonfeed you this once:

"Hard work". As in: "work 14 hours everyday until success comes to you" is a fake, misleading, coping tacting given to workers all over the world so they keep working for cheap makung other people rich.

Actual hard work. Means working on yourself: your skills, your education, your networking, your negotiation skills, improving your strengths, minimizing your weakness. This type of actual hard work does pay off because when an opportunity comes your way you're prepared to make the most of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:29:21 No.25161363 Report

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>>25160942
>Act

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:29:38 No.25161371 Report

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>>25156216
Is this that adorable dochi dochi girl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:34:18 No.25161538 Report

Quoted By: >>25161564 >>25166957

>>25157024
You need to make at least 2,5x more than the budget to make money on a Hollywood flick. There's also a huge marketing budget (you need to pay FBK to shill your movie) and distributors take a bigger cut than youtube does on superchats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:35:00 No.25161564 Report

Quoted By: >>25161651

>>25161538
>source: my ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:37:05 No.25161651 Report

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>>25161564
Do you think I'm fucking wikipedia? Just fucking google it if you want sources.
What a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:39:36 No.25161754 Report

Quoted By: >>25162843

>>25161307
Stop being a fucking schizo. She never acted that way, in fact, everyone who meets her says that she's a nice girl

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 18:59:36 No.25162530 Report

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>>25159864
Isn't AZKi's original name literally "Virtual diva AZKi"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 19:01:18 No.25162613 Report

Quoted By: >>25162713 >>25163000 >>25172527

>>25159242
yet Kiara has better results - seems like hard work wins

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 19:03:49 No.25162713 Report

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>>25162613
???
how?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 19:07:10 No.25162843 Report

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>>25161754
Did you really expect clipfags and niggers from reddit to know better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 19:10:38 No.25163000 Report

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>>25162613
Do KFP schizos really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 19:23:59 No.25163534 Report

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>>25159324
Ignoring the schizo reply, Suisei is a very good example of "work smart, not hard". Most of what she did in 2020 and 2021 was to train her voice and build her brand/connections rather than just "hurr stream more" like so many of her peers. It even turned into "idol who never stops promoting herself" memes which, as all memes do, just helped her brand even more. Sure, she did work hard back then, but now she can take regular breaks without issue and still maintain her fanbase. Compare this with someone like Watame who is also a legit hard worker, but couldn't break through in the same way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 20:48:29 No.25166957 Report

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>>25161538
t. doesn't understand how budgets work, and definitely doesn't understand how financial statements work

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 21:07:02 No.25167635 Report

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>>25156216
talent isn't a real thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 22:54:15 No.25172086 Report

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>>25156216
I agree its wasted effort but it is to your benefit in dealings with your local tribe to at least appear as though you arent a snake, but are actually kind hearted and hardworking. Social success is effiecient or ignorant hypocrisy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 23:04:10 No.25172527 Report

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>>25162613
Gura has both.10 years of grinding in multiple working fields plus she set life goals since she's like 12. what you see now is just her rewarding herself after an uphill struggle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 23:18:53 No.25173228 Report

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talent is a raising of your skill floor and your skill cap
getting to your skill cap is hard work

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Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 23:21:38 No.25173362 Report

Quoted By: >>25177374

The real lesson here is a good model can overcome and lot of deficits and a bad model can hamstring you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 May 2022 23:35:13 No.25174014 Report

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>>25156216
>Talent ALWAYS trumps Perseverance
Yes, most of time that is true. But picture is absolutely not related as there is no talent and perseverance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2022 00:31:58 No.25176662 Report

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>>25156329
Nah. Even more talented Kobo beats them all

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2022 00:34:42 No.25176789 Report

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>>25156216
Miko had like 50 viewers for a lot of her time as a Holo in her first year FYI and got to where she is by grinding the fuck out of streams nonstop daily.

Fubuki was also the hardest worker of her gen, as was Aqua (at least until she dropped off, and Subaru is mega-successful now too and guess what, she works hard). Then Pekora in gen 3, Coco/Watame in gen 4 etc.

You can have flukes like Ayame where someone does absolutely nothing and gets rewarded heavily for it, but most of the time you end up with Akis and Mels where going weeks without streaming punishes them bad and they go into the has-been bin. I'd also bet that if Ayame actually decided to put in hard work she'd be one of the top Holos period, but she just doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2022 00:46:54 No.25177374 Report

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>>25173362
In particular Ayame's model, voice and personality are all on-point and she could have been one of the most dominant chuubas in history if she really wanted. However she just squandered it all because hey it's nice to do nothing at all and still get paid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2022 01:06:04 No.25178364 Report

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>>25160366
underrated post

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2022 02:19:29 No.25181409 Report

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>>25160492
Projecting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2022 02:35:39 No.25182149 Report

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>>25156216
Pic unrelated

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2022 03:47:41 No.25185119 Report

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>>25156216
talent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 May 2022 03:51:05 No.25185238 Report

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>>25156216
explain Gene Simmons then? he is neither of those

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