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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 08:47:51 No.25255385 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>25255724 >>25255967 >>25256257 >>25258737 >>25260500 >>25263996 >>25264881 >>25273935 >>25277720 >>25277795 >>25284857 >>25285629

So Haachama intends to collaborate with not only Mousey but also the majority of Vshojo. How do you feel about this? Will she introduce them to the others? Will they actually collab with polka?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 08:50:41 No.25255478 Report

Quoted By: >>25255693

Collabing with polka would be much more dangerous than collabing with haachama, which is why they're letting her get the collab(s) and not polka

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 08:57:01 No.25255693 Report

Quoted By: >>25255981

>>25255478
how so?
I’m not to sure myself but wasn’t there a clip of her aying she frequently watches vshojo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 08:57:49 No.25255724 Report

Quoted By: >>25255912

>>25255385
Yeah Vshojo ia going to collab with all of holo JP. The big boyfriend reveal cross company chaturbate collab has been in the works for quite some time now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 09:03:36 No.25255912 Report

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>>25255724
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 09:05:02 No.25255967 Report

Quoted By: >>25259744

>>25255385
looking forward to the potential polka collab, she’s been watching them for a while now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 09:05:32 No.25255981 Report

Quoted By: >>25256076

>>25255693
why a collab with polka is more dangerous? because haachama would never in a million years be the middleman for collab between jp and vshojo
the only thing I can see happening is some jp members saying "if she could do it then so can I" and at that point it starts becoming the responsibility of that chuuba, not haachama since the desire was there before haachama collabed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 09:08:37 No.25256076 Report

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>>25255981
Makes sense, thanks anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 09:14:22 No.25256257 Report

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>>25255385
Nothing will come out of it because nobody cares what Haachama does. Not even the other Holos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 09:47:51 No.25257240 Report

Quoted By: >>25257469 >>25257545 >>25258265

>btw why are we ignoring the fact that a haaton blocked haachama on twitter because she was sexually harassing him in the DMs? and even after telling her to stop, she got more aggressive until he blocked her? not only that but she showed it on stream, "apologized" and when that haaton sent her a superchat saying she should learn better, she told him "that sounds like a you problem, I'm not changing for you" before moving on.
I think the fact that she's done this is more important than collabing with a whore or two

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 09:55:42 No.25257469 Report

Quoted By: >>25257728

>>25257240
That really happened?
>whore or two
They’re the exact same as any holo member

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 09:58:25 No.25257545 Report

Quoted By: >>25257728

>>25257240
I'm gonna need a source on this one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 10:05:20 No.25257728 Report

Quoted By: >>25262273

>>25257469
>>25257545
here are the global posts that I read this from
>>25215718
>>25215894
>>25215893
https://youtu.be/VN7NHYdDAOQ?t=3201
so pretty legit from what I'm seeing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 10:29:04 No.25258265 Report

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>>25257240
Because everyone know it's a prank. The guy still has haaton pfp, still tweet and retweeting Haachama and he got the DM late compared to other haaton, that's why he already know what to response with the DM
The more important problem I think is the fact that she actually DM'd her fans, which apparently is not good based on her manager, which is the reason why she apologized at the start of the stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 10:49:36 No.25258737 Report

Quoted By: >>25259395 >>25259412 >>25259612

>>25255385
So she is leeching off vshojo now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 11:16:17 No.25259395 Report

Quoted By: >>25259612 >>25259848

>>25258737
Seen a few people say the opposite

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 11:17:17 No.25259412 Report

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>>25258737
Based haachama

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 11:25:33 No.25259612 Report

Quoted By: >>25259882 >>25267431 >>25274236

>>25258737
>>25259395
I mean there IS a point to be made here, haachama still want an English audience... One of her goals is to genuinely be as world wide as she can be, and there's nothing wrong with that obviously but she herself started to understand the fact that the hololive EOP audience is as fickle as they come, to the point where they barley watch their OWN streamers, I assume this will be a move to try and appeal to the twitch English audience.
However let's be real, haachama doesn't know any better... Do you really think she understands what the English audience on twitch is like? Of course not, how would she know? So she'll probably give up on them after a couple or streams on twitch.
She's been focusing on her JOP audience much much more as of late anyways
It also benefits vshojo of course because a collab with haachama will reach both English and Japanese audience alike, which is why they fucking pounced on her like predators during the stream and on Twitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 11:29:40 No.25259744 Report

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>>25255967
yeah she was one of the ones who complimented them early on back in 2020. Based fox

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 11:33:20 No.25259848 Report

Quoted By: >>25260533

>>25259395
There's nothing to gain from Haachama especially when Vshojo has gained as much as it has. Mouse routinely gets stupid numbers and anytime Nyanners and Vei actually get off their ass and stream, they do as well. Shit even Zen had like 21k the other day. The rest sit in the 5 to 8k range or more depending on what they're doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 11:34:13 No.25259882 Report

Quoted By: >>25260533

>>25259612
haachama reached out first though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 11:52:08 No.25260500 Report

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>>25255385
Haachama is coming up on her 4 year anniversary with Hololive. She's a Gen1 that worked hard to get where she is, through the shitty early days when the rewards aren't what they are today. I'm sure she knows a lot of the early gens from other companies. Polka also was streaming before Hololive and probably has similar connections. They both have an established fan base, but the market is saturated right now, and growth has become sluggish, so doing small collabs with other companies is one way to keep things fresh and exciting. While some fans will hate it, others will enjoy it, and I don't really see Polka or Haachama losing anything by doing this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 11:52:59 No.25260533 Report

Quoted By: >>25261758 >>25262765 >>25292495

>>25259882
>haachama reached out first
Sending a message telling the girls how cute they are and mistaking their names for someone else isn't exactly "reaching out"
It was mouse who invited haachama, not the other way around.
>>25259848
Twitch numbers=/=YouTube numbers
Miko can get 8k during a fucking watch along on twitch, but not on YouTube
Haachama is much much more famous than the entirety of vshojo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 12:01:04 No.25260778 Report

Quoted By: >>25261138

How is she going to hold a conversation? She can’t speak English.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 12:10:06 No.25261099 Report

Quoted By: >>25261299

Nothing will come of it. Haachama is a legend among chuubas and they’ll treat her reverentially. The collabs will be safe, mild girl dates with one or two highlights where Haachama says “fuck me up” and her collab partner giggles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 12:11:24 No.25261138 Report

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>>25260778
The pepeloni.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 12:15:09 No.25261299 Report

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>>25261099
This, people just enjoy to shitpost but haachama has already been cemented into thr history books as a revered chuuba of the second wave after ai and those lot
Plus, while not everyone knows exactly who she is, there's no way you watch chuubas without at least having shallow knowledge of who haachama is.
This is a daisenpai only third to sora and roboco in hololive after all
You can read the chat when she announced it anyway, not a single soul didn't know who haachama was

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 12:28:37 No.25261758 Report

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>>25260533
Holo cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 12:44:35 No.25262273 Report

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>>25257728
i kneel to haachama

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 12:58:03 No.25262765 Report

Quoted By: >>25263031 >>25263034 >>25263319

>>25260533
>Haachama is much much more famous than the entirety of vshojo
cmon now, im a haaton and even i know thats not possible. it might be true for JP statistics, but vshojo appeals to an EN audience which naturally has a higher population.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 13:05:44 No.25263031 Report

Quoted By: >>25263077 >>25263558

>>25262765
No you're not a haaton, because I'M not a haaton and I know this isn't true in any way, shape or form.
Look at nyanners latest numbers for example, look at Iron mouse who usually boarders the 10-15k peak on twitch, if she were to stream on YouTube she would barley break 5k
You saw how Ludwig's numbers became when he started streaming on YouTube rather than twitch.
You people take things at face value without taking the variables into consideration, don't try to numberfag when you don't know how to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 13:05:52 No.25263034 Report

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>>25262765
Based haaton

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 13:07:00 No.25263077 Report

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>>25263031
Copium

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 13:13:51 No.25263319 Report

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>>25262765
>en streamer is more popular among ENs than a jp streamers
Well color me surprised, and even then she's just barley more popular
During an EN stream haachama can easily get 5-8k depending on the time she streams, and that's on YouTube.
That's only less than nyanners and maybe ironlungs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 13:20:25 No.25263558 Report

Quoted By: >>25263754 >>25278098

>>25263031
Not the anon you were replying to but I'm curious what are you implying? People who move to YT become way less popular? Twitch boosts CCV numbers? YT fails to properly count CCV? I thought it's an established fact that Twitch favors popular streamers so they get shilled way more hence newfags are constantly flowing into their channels as long as those streamers are active. On the other hand, YT is constantly trying to shill me JP streamers who have 50 CCV and get 1k archive views. Haachama failed to gain new viewers from Hololive's viewers pool because of [reasons] so obviously she can't rely on YT algos to boost her. Also, I often see ironmouse mentioned in various articles about Twitch/streamers and I can't really say I've heard of Haachama/Akai Haato being mentioned anywhere outside Hololive community. At the moment she's definitely not as popular as ironmouse or other top vshojo girls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 13:26:45 No.25263754 Report

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>>25263558
Naynners and iron mouse are the most popular chuubas from twitch, which is the reason why you see them in articles all the time
Twitch is a more established streaming platform that YouTube as well, so it makes sense
However when you do a crossover like this you have to take variables into consideration, one is that ccv on twitch is not calculated the same as the ccv on YouTube, and the biggest proof of that is the VOD views after processing.
Plus the only well known company on twitch is in fact vshojo while on YouTube its the opposite, there are 2, maybe 3 huge companies that are filled with chuubas.
I don't really gets what's so hard to understand about this, 90% of the holo jp girls are much more popular the the entirety of vshojo, it's not just haachama really.
If you take the top 10 vshojo girls and insert them into the list of hololive, only Naynners and iron mouse and maybe veibae would rank slightly above aki

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 13:34:30 No.25263996 Report

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>>25255385
Why not

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 13:58:08 No.25264881 Report

Quoted By: >>25265077 >>25267124

>>25255385
I fear the day this collab happens and wish they stayed far away from each other. This might ruin everything, because they could find out their boyfriend is all the same person (me)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 14:03:28 No.25265077 Report

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>>25264881
Apparently she’s making s appearance in two weeks

Miscerte

Miscerte Tue 31 May 2022 14:13:15 No.25265461 Report

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Honestly, I've always wanted to see Hololive(JP/EN/IN) and Vshojo collab. With Haachama being my favorite JP talent, I have pretty high hopes for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 14:52:51 No.25267124 Report

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>>25264881
Based good job at finding yourself in a sitcom

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 15:00:15 No.25267431 Report

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>>25259612
>She's been focusing on her JOP audience much much more as of late anyways
"As of late" is pretty generous. She conceded her position as the English speaking Holo when Coco debuted and hasn't done much in English ever since, except for a little bit of EOP pandering around the EN debuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 15:57:56 No.25270199 Report

Quoted By: >>25270336

Everyone knows 1 YouTube view is worth 10 gorillion Twitch views

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 16:00:21 No.25270336 Report

Quoted By: >>25275862

>>25270199
and everyone knows you're retarded for bumping a bait thread that was about to die

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 17:22:22 No.25273935 Report

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>>25255385
its over

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 17:30:51 No.25274236 Report

Quoted By: >>25281905

>>25259612
I mean she pretty much dropped us english viewers entirely so, oh well I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 18:09:49 No.25275862 Report

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>>25270336
Ogey

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 18:56:17 No.25277720 Report

Quoted By: >>25292446

>>25255385
haachama based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 18:58:21 No.25277795 Report

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>>25255385
Haachama's time ended, she's irrelevant now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 19:04:51 No.25278098 Report

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>>25263558
YT doesnt count you if he have ad block or your tabbed out. Kiara finally found this out a few days ago when after chat told her since she was complaining about people leaving when she took a piss break( they tabbed out). She tested it on stream telling people to tab out and live viewer graphs go up and down. Twitch on the other hand counts all streamers you have a tab opened too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 20:41:10 No.25281905 Report

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>>25274236
She also seems to not want to deal with any EN things on YT, EN SCs, EN mellows and what not.
She isn’t world wide, and never will be, she is too Japanese

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 22:01:02 No.25284857 Report

Quoted By: >>25284866 >>25285417 >>25288722 >>25290482

>>25255385
So how long until holo fans push for the collabs not to happen?

Stay away from vshitshow, haachama...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 22:01:21 No.25284866 Report

Quoted By: >>25288722

>>25284857
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 22:15:05 No.25285417 Report

Quoted By: >>25288934

>>25284857
We did it with Vei, we can do it again men. Those whores will not taint our maidens. COMRADES ARM YOURSELVES, TO WAR

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 22:20:10 No.25285629 Report

Quoted By: >>25289780

>>25255385
It's hachaama.

She either makes the collabs awkward as fuck or reclines from this.No middle ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 23:33:11 No.25288722 Report

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>>25284866
>>25284857
Cope and seethe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 23:37:49 No.25288934 Report

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>>25285417
Copium

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 May 2022 23:58:04 No.25289780 Report

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>>25285629
Based haachama

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 00:10:11 No.25290482 Report

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>>25284857
and holocucks continue to seethe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 00:40:51 No.25292446 Report

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>>25277720
Indeed she is anonchama

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Jun 2022 00:41:52 No.25292495 Report

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>>25260533
Copium

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