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Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:19:51 No.25358280 View View Reply Original Report

>PARASOCIAL RELATIONSHIP IS..... LE BAD
what are you people even doing in vtuber industry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:20:50 No.25358317 Report

Quoted By: >>25358370 >>25358511

>picture of a guinea pig in a bee costume

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:21:12 No.25358339 Report

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>>25358280
I'm not sure
*cums on you*

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:21:24 No.25358350 Report

Quoted By: >>25378856 >>25383018 >>25405208

*blocks your path*

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:21:51 No.25358370 Report

Quoted By: >>25358511

>>25358317

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:22:05 No.25358379 Report

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>parasocial le bad
>btw i love u asmr tomorrow :))))

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:24:31 No.25358511 Report

Quoted By: >>25364707

>>25358317
>>25358370
The fuck is this normalfaggot shit?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:30:17 No.25358821 Report

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>>25358280
>parasocial relationships are... LE BAD
>also remember to buy my gfe voice packs and superchat my asmr dating stream
Western vtubers were a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:34:29 No.25359037 Report

Quoted By: >>25359310 >>25388843

If you're on TV or youtube isn't everything parasocial? If you are a fan of Football, you feel happy when they win and mad if they lose even though you know your fanship does not affect the teams performance. If you watch a streamer you get to know them even though they don't know you. If you watch trash reality tv like a normalfag, you relate to the people in some way even if you know its all scripted and fake.

Its just like any other entertainment

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:38:54 No.25359249 Report

Quoted By: >>25383953 >>25388899

>Parasocial good
>Parasocial bad
This is one of those arguments there 90% of the time the people are using the same word for different things.
The ones who are fine with it mean it in the most general sense (i.e., any sort of one-sided relationship, basically any celebrity fandom falls under this and arguably so do fictional ones.)
The ones who say it's bad are referring to a subset of that, the ones who are delusional enough to think a vtuber is their actual friend/romantic partner (something that isn't healthy for you OR them.)
There's occasionally someone who thinks all one-sided relationships are bad (and is probably weird about say, kpop stans and actor fans as well) or people who think "No X-chan really is my girlfriend, fuck you", but those are both unusual.
Basically: Parasocial relationships are fine so long as it's not an unhealthy one, but some people started using the word "parasocial" to refer specifically TO the unhealthy ones and made everything confusing. Just don't be a schizo and it's fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:39:45 No.25359310 Report

Quoted By: >>25362760 >>25364173 >>25364627 >>25373155 >>25373651 >>25408522

>>25359037
>vtuberss are entertainers
keep coping

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:41:22 No.25359402 Report

Quoted By: >>25363131

if someone on tv tells you they love you, that means you're dating them lmaaaaooo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 03:48:29 No.25359781 Report

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>>25358280
https://youtu.be/EIRcUI-arkY

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 04:51:51 No.25362760 Report

Quoted By: >>25363287 >>25363856

>>25359310
But vtubers ARE just entertainers. The vaat majority of people who watch them and donate to them treat them as such. You having mental illnesses doesn't make them anything more than entertainers in thr same vein as any other streamer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 04:59:00 No.25363075 Report

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I agree. Vox needs to appologize.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:00:43 No.25363131 Report

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>>25359402
>comparing actual celebrities to virtual panhandlers
lol
lmao even

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:05:23 No.25363287 Report

Quoted By: >>25363856

>>25362760
>But vtubers ARE just entertainers. The vaat majority of people who watch them and donate to them treat them as such.
For your sake Anon I hope you're just baitposting and you aren't actually this ignorant

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:10:12 No.25363462 Report

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>>25358280
Enjoying my autistic demon boyfriend Vox Akuma's streams without thinking he's my actual real boyfriend! I can tell the difference between fiction and reality!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:18:19 No.25363777 Report

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Yes parasocial is bad but you losers on this board with no friend irl dont realise it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:19:22 No.25363820 Report

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>>25358280
So you agree with Vox's content

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:20:21 No.25363856 Report

Quoted By: >>25364763

>>25362760

its the truth, the vast majority dont even superchat or have a membership in the first place, unlike retards like this guy might suggest >>25363287

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:21:30 No.25363900 Report

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>>25358280
they're here to laugh at you and set fires the Russia yab proved that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:27:41 No.25364125 Report

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>>25358280
I guess they think virtual youtuber means that it's just a youtuber with an anime avatar.
Otherwise they'd be called vidols.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:28:43 No.25364173 Report

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>>25359310
>idols aren't entertainers
What world do you live in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:31:54 No.25364290 Report

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>>25358280
I enjoy a streamer that has an avatar
later I fap to lewd fanarts something fleshtubers don't have
and No I will not pay for a onlyfans, never pay for porn

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:36:47 No.25364450 Report

Quoted By: >>25364790

>>25358280
Sorry if I don't need to get emotionally attached to enjoy the content someone produces, but I think it's fine if you're not acting like a moron because of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:42:19 No.25364627 Report

Quoted By: >>25364754 >>25364840 >>25374595 >>25405851

>>25359310
Calling any streamer an entertainer is pretty generous. They blatantly build their careers off of parasocial relationships. Just being around all the time, talking to chat like a friend, getting your fans to think your success is their success and that they can help by “supporting you.” Their content isn’t art, it isn’t educational, it isn’t even really funny. It’s just them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:46:05 No.25364707 Report

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>>25358280
>>25358511
I want to put Luna in a diaper, take her to a festival, make her drink copious amounts of tea and/or soda, and never let her go to the bathroom

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:48:02 No.25364754 Report

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>>25364627
I guess.
But there are stuff like speedrun streamers who are viewed and liked because of the sheer skill on display.
For streamers it's either personality, skill, some niche appeal, or all of them combined that gets a crowd.
If you're not skilled, at least be funny. If you're not funny, at least be skilled. Simple as that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:48:17 No.25364763 Report

Quoted By: >>25364820 >>25405848 >>25419660

>>25363856
Since you're too stupid to comprehend reality, Anon, I'll spell it out for you. A lot of vtubers have a fully reciprocal emotional dependency on their viewers. This is especially true of 2views. They aren't "just entertainers" and the viewers aren't "just viewers". Do you think that one chuuba who ripped off her own fingernail as punishment for failing to start her stream on time thinks of herself as merely an entertainer performing for an audience? You truly know nothing about vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:49:03 No.25364790 Report

Quoted By: >>25364878

>>25364450
Thought that was common sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:50:04 No.25364820 Report

Quoted By: >>25365006

>>25364763
Not op, but that's probably more of a Japanese thing.
They take their content/idols VERY seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:50:31 No.25364840 Report

Quoted By: >>25410590

>>25364627
>How are you doing chat?
I'm ok.
>Good question, viewer
Neat, streamer answered my question.
>Hi chat, thanks for watching today.
Cool, I'm gonna go do other things now

How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:52:12 No.25364878 Report

Quoted By:

>>25364790
>common sense
>/vt/
HAHA! FUNNY JOKE!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 05:57:00 No.25365006 Report

Quoted By: >>25366781

>>25364820
>that's probably more of a Japanese thing
She ripped off her fucking fingernail, Anon. That's not normal. But it just goes to show how mentally and emotionally invested vtubers can be in their own viewers. She intentionally maimed herself because she felt like she'd let them down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 06:54:23 No.25366539 Report

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Stop licking the streamers' boots. If they're not complaining about parasocial, they're complaining about something else. They're always treating their viewers like trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 07:03:15 No.25366781 Report

Quoted By: >>25419660

>>25365006
Sounds more like the vtuber you're talking about has mental issues and needs to see a psychiatrist immediately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 09:56:15 No.25371583 Report

Quoted By:

>>25358280
They're neutral

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 10:48:43 No.25373155 Report

Quoted By: >>25374837 >>25382763

>>25359310
>watch vtubers
>they're funny, so i laugh
>ive been entertained
they're entertainers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 11:07:56 No.25373651 Report

Quoted By:

>>25359310
If they aren't entertainers, then what are they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 11:39:46 No.25374595 Report

Quoted By:

>>25364627
>talking to chat like a friend
Yeah, like when they beat a certain aspect of a videogames they specifically say "we did it" even though chat most certainly did nothing.
They make you feel included, but without actually seeing your face or hearing your voice.
They thrive on loneliness and if that is a bad thing I'm not sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 11:46:46 No.25374837 Report

Quoted By:

>>25373155
Based Pikemee poster

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 12:14:43 No.25375936 Report

Quoted By: >>25376216

The fact that there are actually comments here who unironically question or deny the statement "VTubers are entertainers" says a lot about the mental health of people on this board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 12:22:19 No.25376216 Report

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>>25375936
Well, I guess VTubers should actually play entertaining characters that get by on strength of roleplay and content quality instead of sharing personal problems and sensitive details of their lives when they're not doing suggestive ASMR or roleplaying sexual acts. But hey. Who wants to be a tiny 2view with a niche audience.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 12:27:52 No.25376394 Report

Quoted By: >>25376511

I think having a parasocial relationship leads to much more self improvement than any therapy can offer, You're working to impress someone you'll never meet, It sounds crazy but because you like or love the person you want to better yourself for them, Obviously if you're a level headed human you'll realize that nothing will come of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 12:31:12 No.25376511 Report

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>>25376394
You can rationally realize nothing will come out of it, but if you feed that sentiment day after day by watching the chuuba and dedicating your improvement to her at one point your neurons will have a different opinion about how feasible the whole thing is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 13:40:39 No.25378856 Report

Quoted By:

>>25358350
>>25358280
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 15:13:39 No.25381838 Report

Quoted By: >>25383018

>>25358280
nijisanji is a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 15:34:30 No.25382763 Report

Quoted By: >>25386331

>>25373155
>be woman
>be funny
how does pika do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 15:40:06 No.25383018 Report

Quoted By: >>25383757 >>25393178

>>25381838
But a Niji just spent a whole stream defending parasocial relationships, including gachikoi and GFE/BFE >>25358350

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 15:55:46 No.25383757 Report

Quoted By: >>25383899

>>25383018
nijiIDs don't count

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 15:57:37 No.25383839 Report

Quoted By:

>>25358280
fixing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 15:58:46 No.25383899 Report

Quoted By: >>25386016

>>25383757
She's just Nijisanji now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 16:00:10 No.25383953 Report

Quoted By:

>>25359249
this, 100%

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 16:46:34 No.25386016 Report

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>>25383899
still doesn't count

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 16:53:01 No.25386245 Report

Quoted By: >>25394327

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 16:55:21 No.25386331 Report

Quoted By:

>>25382763
Mostly by being an adorable retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 17:05:41 No.25386668 Report

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All streamers are parasocial you’re just in denial

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 18:08:31 No.25388843 Report

Quoted By:

>>25359037
>your fanship does not affect the teams performance.
Did you really just argue that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 18:10:03 No.25388899 Report

Quoted By:

>>25359249
Basically retards shouldn't be allowed to use words if they don't know the meaning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 20:18:59 No.25393178 Report

Quoted By: >>25399902

>>25383018
All VTubers are whores. Some are just more capable of showing understanding and kindness to the broken sods they take money from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 20:31:50 No.25393641 Report

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Streams are just better when some cute, weird and/or sexy anime girl is there instead of a facecam of some boring looking person. Even if you listen to them roleplaying a conversation with you or something, you should keep in mind that you're enjoying their content and the reactions and thoughts it produces in you, something that does not involve them personally.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 20:34:25 No.25393726 Report

Quoted By:

>>25358280

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 20:38:49 No.25393900 Report

Quoted By: >>25398228

>>25358280
Parasocial relationships are bad when retards take it too far. It's possible to watch and enjoy vtubers without being mentally ill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 20:50:21 No.25394327 Report

Quoted By: >>25399072

>>25386245
The fact that people who make virgin/chad memes now don’t get that they’re supposed to be ironic and the chad is supposed to be wrong is very funny when they accidentally do it right like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 22:42:58 No.25398228 Report

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>>25393900
It's closer to normality to want to fuck a female that appears to show interest in and appears to be subservient to you than watching a cartoon do inane shit out of habit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 23:04:55 No.25399072 Report

Quoted By: >>25400071

>>25394327
> the chad is supposed to be wrong
who are you trying to fool newfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 23:20:31 No.25399683 Report

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>In 1956, Horton and Wohl explored the different interactions between mass media users and media figures and determined the existence of a parasocial relationship (PSR), where the user acts as though they are involved in a typical social relationship

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 23:27:15 No.25399902 Report

Quoted By: >>25402868

>>25393178
>Some are just more capable of showing understanding and kindness
Isn't this just objectively the most important quality for a Vtuber, really any streamer for that matter, to possess when it comes to interacting with their viewers? Shouldn't this literally be your first and biggest requirement?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Jun 2022 23:31:48 No.25400071 Report

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>>25399072
Anon, the whole joke with the original is that the "virgin walk" is completely normal and the "chad stride" is going so far in the other direction it's completely insane.
It being reduced to "Virgin is you (bad) and chad is me (good)" was always people missing the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 00:35:46 No.25402868 Report

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>>25399902
It's almost like VTubing is a form of entertainment that's extremely lenient towards treating the audience like crap because the audience that is the most invested is also the most dependent on emotional support from the VTuber. And the VTuber usually fucking despises the people throwing them money and being the demographic most contributing for their success and earnings. In other words, everyone wants to feed the monster until it's big enough that it can turn the wheel, but no one wants to deal with the monster when it's overgrown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 01:34:59 No.25405208 Report

Quoted By: >>25410663

>>25358350
source dude just trust me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 01:43:04 No.25405512 Report

Quoted By:

>>25358280
NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SEE ME AS A GF OR A FRIEND, YOU WEIRD
Now give me your money :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 01:52:31 No.25405848 Report

Quoted By:

>>25364763
I heard a guy ate another guy once - all people are fucking cannibals, man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 01:52:36 No.25405851 Report

Quoted By:

>>25364627
That's bullshit. I've learned plenty from watching streamers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 02:35:05 No.25407735 Report

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>>25358280
Leeching

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 02:53:12 No.25408522 Report

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>>25359310
Not only are they entertainers but, just like regular streamers, there are different things that they tend to specialize in. Below are typical things that vtubers tend to specialize in:

-Gaming
-Art/Drawing
-Music/Singing
-Comedy
-ASMR
-Roleplay

There are more, but those are some examples. Plus, some of them had careers in singing, art, shitposting, etc before becoming vtubers. Hell, even Plague does vtubing now. He doesn't suddenly stop being an artist/entertainer because he puts on a cartoon fursona after dark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 03:46:59 No.25410590 Report

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>>25364840
Wow you're so cool and detached and mentally healthy! How much have you donated, by the way?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 03:49:13 No.25410663 Report

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>>25405208
>

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 04:04:59 No.25411212 Report

Quoted By: >>25411338 >>25418765

Vtubers are inherently geared towards parasocial relationships.
They're all attractive anime characters by design, they interact with the audience and provide a sense of closeness to them.
This is a recipe to get people attached to them.
Some might just get a crush, some might get a feeling of connecting with them, different sorts of parasocial. But this is what they're built for.
Youtubers deal with this shit too but vtubers are literally built to sell a fantasy of an anime character.
Anyone shitting on parasocial dynamics is just a fucking idiot that does not understand the inherent mechanics of vtubing and youtubing.
On a scale of 1 to 10 just don't be a 9 or 10 obsessed about a vtuber, don't let it define your lifestyle, don't let it affect you emotionally as if it was a real person.
But a lesser degree of parasocial experience is literally the appeal of this medium.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 04:08:08 No.25411338 Report

Quoted By:

>>25411212
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 06:26:23 No.25416344 Report

Quoted By:

>>25358280
nijisanij was a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 07:54:57 No.25418736 Report

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>>25358280
destroying it

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Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 07:56:52 No.25418765 Report

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>>25411212
true plus you get more friends this way

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 08:30:44 No.25419515 Report

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>not having a paratrooper relationship
ngmi

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 08:37:04 No.25419660 Report

Quoted By:

>>25364763
I think Tsu(m|z)uri is mentally ill and very different from almost all other chuubas.

>>25366781
And she did. Got diagnosed and told to suck it up, more or less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Jun 2022 08:40:47 No.25419743 Report

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>>25358280
If I:m doomed to watch streamers get memed into doing facecam it might as well be an e-girl with an anime avatar

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