>>26396304The 60 dollar tag doesn't really impede them from playing Smash (tho they don't really do it anymore). I understand the problems with it, but Apex/Valo streams are not much different with the grinding, and collabs are only fun if they're either good at the game, playing on customs/tournaments or if they're good at conversation (essentially a zatsudan with the game as background noise). The last part can happen regardless of the game or the skill level of the players, and organizing an 8-man quick tournament or first to anything is much easier than a custom match on Apex, Valorant or really any shooter (maybe if Quake became popular again).