Man... i'm really on the edge of not interacting with vtuber fans either here or in youtube, shit got really retarded, in one side you have /vt which is a rrat nest in where everybody just invent some shit and others believe it and at this point this place is just an echochamber of 99% bullshit and then you have youtube which consists of normies and their everything is cute and perfect and "we must protect that smile" kind of people which is fucking cancer, if some of you have a place where you can discuss your oshi like a normal fucking human being please let me now