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>>27691625
Why are people still pushing the "talent freedom = good" line when Kson has basically done nothing but regress to an only fans camwhore and Finana yabbed hard trying to appeal to the tranny demographic? Giving women creative freedom always ends in disaster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:48:22 No.27691781 Report

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>>27691748
Scream about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:48:27 No.27691785 Report

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>>27691625
Whos the loser that keeps making all of this low quality OC? I want to respect the message but if you use low quality shit like wojaks, no one will take you seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:48:30 No.27691788 Report

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>>27691625
please never make an infographic ever again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:49:24 No.27691826 Report

Quoted By: >>27691891 >>27692165 >>27692220

>>27691692
>>27691713
hololive largely fails at pushing the talents they actually want to promote. HoloEN is the best thing to ever happen to them (financially) and it was a fluke. The person who worked to give them that boon left literally because they didn't like management.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:49:50 No.27691834 Report

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>>27691748
you (our your whore of an oshi) will always be 2view, cuck subverter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:49:58 No.27691843 Report

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>>27691769
They don't care to learn from history. Just shit on hololive because it's the cool thing to do now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:50:03 No.27691847 Report

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Hey Nijisanji PR team, fire this absolute fucking clown shill and hire me instead
pay me well and I'll make high quality OC shitposts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:50:16 No.27691861 Report

Quoted By: >>27691935 >>27692000

>>27691769
>what people think when they hear ‘talent freedom’
“wow, she can do ANYTHING”
>what actually happens
either barely streaming or reaction video content

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:50:28 No.27691866 Report

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>>27691625
I don't see the issue here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:51:01 No.27691887 Report

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>>27691625
Damn fucking based, m-my knees ITS BENDING ON THEIR OWN

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:51:07 No.27691891 Report

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>>27691826
>left because of management.
Nah, that's cope. She left because she wanted more money. That's why she didn't deliver on her creative projects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:51:20 No.27691899 Report

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>>27691625
Jop

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:52:20 No.27691935 Report

Quoted By: >>27692035

>>27691861
I'm not seeing a whole lot of amazing paradigm shifting content coming out of vshojo. Like you said it's just them ignoring copyright and watching youtube shit and reacting to it. On the other hand just last night we got an absolutely kino Pekora vs Noel gambling stream. Restrictions are actually good for content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:53:12 No.27691957 Report

Quoted By: >>27691994 >>27692086 >>27692149

Holobronies are useless and pathetic. Just because you should have killed yourself long ago doesn’t mean that everyone else has to be as miserable and depressed. I am so happy your genes won’t carry on and you’re just going to die in your own pond of shit. You’re the shitstain on this world.

I wish the girls manage to get a hold on their mental health and find happiness in their career, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:54:00 No.27691990 Report

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Considering the absolutely obscene amount of money these girls make, it is a small fucking price to pay. Otherwise what'd they be doing right now? Working at walmart or their regional equivalent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:54:05 No.27691994 Report

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>>27691957
Projection: The post

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:54:16 No.27692000 Report

Quoted By: >>27692232

>>27691861
I'm a vshojofag and sadly this is true. It obviously depends on the streamer and some put in genuine effort and in those cases it's great, but others do even less than the bare minimum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:54:28 No.27692009 Report

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Bros I'm getting disillusioned with all this shit. Why the fuck do I want to hear bitches talk about boring as fuck topics that I don't care about? Girls just talk about the stupidest crap.

We need less of that shit and more of them screaming and crying in frustration because game too hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:55:27 No.27692035 Report

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>>27691935
Restrictions, more often than not, aid the creative process. Without it, you get a bunch of women struck with decision paralysis and defaulting to doing what everyone else is doing to maintain their audience, or they just skip the middleman altogether and jump straight to doing nothing at all because they don’t know what they want to do in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:56:19 No.27692058 Report

Quoted By: >>27692161

>>27691769
>talent freedom
>freedom to be a low effort react streamer
I tried to watch kson during downtime and I was bored to shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:57:01 No.27692083 Report

Quoted By: >>27692161

>>27691769
Based and truthpilled. The most interesting thing Kson did in the year she was an indie was flash her ass and her ass turned out to be as much of a disappointment as her "muh creative freedom".

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:57:07 No.27692086 Report

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>>27691957
Touch grass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:57:51 No.27692115 Report

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>>27691625

This is my religion. I will destroy anyone who defies it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:58:46 No.27692144 Report

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>>27691625
This is all good though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:58:53 No.27692149 Report

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>>27691957
Spica da English?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:59:05 No.27692161 Report

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>>27692058
>>27692083
That and as a consumer I don't really give a shit whether the talents have freedom or are being whipped by a manager, I just want good content and they get paid a shitload to make it so if they need to be tard wrangled to do it then so be it. Why would I want a worse product just so a roastie can get out of bed whenever she wants to do react content for easy betabucks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:59:13 No.27692165 Report

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>>27691826
>he thinks the EN branch only succeeded because of Coco and not on their own merit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 21:59:55 No.27692183 Report

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Freedom never helped creativity
Look at you retards, if i ask you to write a fanfic most of you will brainfuck into nothingness and never deliver anything
Now if i ask you to write a gay porn fanfic including pekora, my restriction are gona help you do something bearable to watch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:00:45 No.27692220 Report

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>>27691826
Bruh, Marine and Shion literally just pulled 50K viewers talking. Miko, Suisei, Laplus, etc. can all pull 10 - 20K viewers consistently. Chloe is in the middle of her own rise too. In what world is Hololive "failing to push talents"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:01:02 No.27692232 Report

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>>27692000
I know it won't happen, but god I fucking wish Twitch would just ban react content or implement content ID. I know people bitch about it, but I'd rather that than the borefest that is 3 hours of reacting to shitty videos followed by an hour of game, then 2 more hours of reacting to shitty videos every streamer seems to do

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:02:18 No.27692282 Report

Quoted By: >>27694972

>>27691625
>Idol culture

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:03:59 No.27692350 Report

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>>27691692
>purity
>family image
>code of conduct
yeah no this is great

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:04:00 No.27692352 Report

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The only person in VShojo I've seen practice their "creative" freedom is Nyanners and Melody. All everyone else does is react content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:05:24 No.27692401 Report

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>>27691625
We clearly see that the quality of vtubers diminishes when not kept on a tight leash, so the success proves Hololive right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:06:28 No.27692444 Report

Quoted By: >>27692656 >>27692668 >>27692727 >>27692745

The way /vt/ talks about Hololive, you'd swear their talent are all living from paycheck to paycheck, struggling to make rent as the company collapses from under them.

But like... They're doing just fine.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:09:21 No.27692567 Report

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>>27691625
it has to be said that idol culture is very much a real thing. holoEN should really look for new corpos if 'talent freedom' is what they want - because they don't naturally pander to the sort of shit that JPs in all of vtubing does << even IDs and CNs majorly have it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:10:03 No.27692603 Report

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>>27691625
seems youve spend a lot of time on this. Still didnt read

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:11:04 No.27692656 Report

Quoted By: >>27694197

>>27692444
Its literally just one SEAfag making and reposting these low quality shitposts

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:11:17 No.27692668 Report

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>>27692444
>They're doing just fine.
Some of them are doing more than fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:12:32 No.27692711 Report

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hololive, especially JP, are far more at the mercy of the internet at large than their viewers. There's a reason no one other than matsuri has mentioned loli recently

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:13:04 No.27692727 Report

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>>27692444
It's the 4chan special to talk about games and companies dying despite making millions

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:13:31 No.27692745 Report

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>>27692444
also the whole idea of them forcing them to work until mental breakdown seems a bit overblown. Many of them take 1-2 month breaks without issue or reduce their stream schedule to basically nothing(shion, ayame, aqua). Im sure they do put some pressure on them but it often seems like the girls put as much pressure on themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:13:32 No.27692747 Report

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hololive will keep empowering talents to reach millions of subscribers while you stay as a talentless nobody forever. you are not even worthy of a chance. kneel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:34:05 No.27693668 Report

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>>27691625
It's really quite an easy job. I think there's a lot of room for competition, so we'll probably start seeing more talented girls, as well as single girls who don't mind leaning into the waifu role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:36:18 No.27693756 Report

Quoted By: >>27694729

What's bad about incels? No one ever actually explains what it means

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:37:26 No.27693787 Report

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>hololive girls are consistently sexual with each other

i think you're just making shit up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:47:56 No.27694197 Report

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>>27692656
It's been like that for vtuber threads since 2017 because it fucking works

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:49:10 No.27694250 Report

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is evolved over time initially it was just trendy new slang for virgins who couldnt het lad. Then 1 or 2 schizos went n shooting sprees and blamed women and the dact they couldn't get laid. The media then decided to make them into a oogeyman and the phrase gained mainstream popularity. Now it is used to the point of meaningless to describe anyone. You can be married with 3 kids but people will still call you an incel. In short nothing is bad about incels except they have no game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 22:59:57 No.27694729 Report

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>>27693756
There's nothing wrong with incels.
It's when they get shitty attitudes and take out their frustration on others by being a nuisance or worse that they become bad. That's usually what people mean when they say incels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 23:01:50 No.27694818 Report

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>>27691625
Well I don't care about anyone else but I've had adult relationships, must have had sex like 5000 times at least and this holo trinity is based

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 23:02:24 No.27694839 Report

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>>27691625

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 23:04:24 No.27694972 Report

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>>27692282
Why are mods like this?

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 23:09:32 No.27695268 Report

Quoted By: >>27697154

That's why I will always support Hololive. I wish more companies would put their customers #1 like the japanese culture, and not the hollywoodian/jewish industries that makes celebrities godlike and untoucheable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 23:42:02 No.27697154 Report

Quoted By: >>27697261 >>27697803 >>27697878 >>27697900 >>27699327

>>27695268
> holofags are christofacists
you can't make this shit up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 23:43:52 No.27697261 Report

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>>27697154
>Nijifags are twitter trannies
As expected

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 23:52:55 No.27697803 Report

Quoted By: >>27697945

>>27697154
problem?

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Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 23:54:20 No.27697878 Report

Quoted By: >>27697945

>>27697154
Yes. Praise be our Lord.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 23:54:46 No.27697900 Report

Quoted By: >>27697945

>>27697154
Is there something wrong with that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Jul 2022 23:55:31 No.27697945 Report

Quoted By: >>27698233

>>27697803
>>27697878
>>27697900
I prefer my fascists to not jerk it to some subpar fanfic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:01:25 No.27698233 Report

Quoted By: >>27698477

>>27697945
Are you seriously trying to say your Christian knowledge is based on western animation and hollywood sitcoms?
I'd be embarassed saying such things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:03:46 No.27698340 Report

Quoted By: >>27698471

>>27691625
Give them too much freedom and they'll become like Niji, suddenly a guy will gather his courage and shit on the newbie that is doing well saying she and her fans are disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:05:47 No.27698471 Report

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>>27698340
a little rrat told me he's on his way out, so he dgaf

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:05:57 No.27698477 Report

Quoted By: >>27699081

>>27698233
>I'd be embarassed saying such things.
Yeah, I got second hand embarrassment hearing you say that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:09:31 No.27698694 Report

Quoted By: >>27698905

>>27691692
this. i don't understand why people think limitation stifles creativity. they always think freedom to do anything means higher quality and more variety when in fact it just means no quality standard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:12:11 No.27698869 Report

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>>27691713
They successful from Asacoco 1.0 and Erolive era. These time are golden age not today

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:12:44 No.27698905 Report

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>>27698694
It's more complicated than that, too much freedom stifles creativity and quality, but so does too much restriction or certain restrictions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:13:37 No.27698973 Report

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>>27691625
Stop trying to control them, incel. You don't hear them complaining, do you? Stop being a parasocial incel and let them do what they want, incel.

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Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:13:48 No.27698980 Report

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>>27691625
Funny this kind of image about holoshit keeps appearing
Nijiniggers and 2view EN garbages just can't deny holobronies living rent free in their head much longer than the opposite

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:15:27 No.27699081 Report

Quoted By: >>27699320

>>27698477
I know you're embarassed for yourself, you don't have to hide it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:16:30 No.27699165 Report

Quoted By: >>27699287

who sits at their computer and makes those lmfao
even if it was good takes about cover the instant you put it on a triangle shape around the logo it just destroy any sane argument around it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:17:31 No.27699238 Report

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>>27691625
Don't care
I still love the holobubble

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:18:19 No.27699287 Report

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>>27699165
If they're not watching hololive, it's not like they have any good streams to watch.
Making that was probably the most fun the guys had in months

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:18:44 No.27699320 Report

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>>27699081
Why would I be?
You're the one saying embarrassing schizo shit, not me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 08 Jul 2022 00:18:52 No.27699327 Report

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>>27697154
Shion is Judas
> her RM action recently.

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