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Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 01:39:55 No.28279843 View View Reply Original Report

>Less than 100k views after a day
So uh...Where are all the twitter and reddit users who claimed they were super excited for EN Holostars and desperately want to see them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 01:41:20 No.28279928 Report

Quoted By: >>28280223 >>28288065 >>28290114

Daily reminder that when Mumei collabed with the stars and did that gartic phone stream the announcement on reddit had 5 times more upvotes than the sum of all viewpoints combined.
Those loud faggots on reddit and twitter don't watch streams let alone superchat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 01:42:35 No.28280000 Report

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>>28279843
they don't watch streams, maybe watch clips at best, but given the lack of holostars clips I doubt they watch those eithers, they are a literal mystery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 01:46:09 No.28280223 Report

Quoted By: >>28300939

>>28279928
Emphasis on faggot. A lot of these people are just homosexuals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 01:49:22 No.28280435 Report

Quoted By: >>28280802

>>28279843
>So uh...Where are all the twitter and reddit users who claimed they were super excited for EN Holostars and desperately want to see them?
Probably within that 80K views, you just didn't realize how little the demand was. Don't take all the post you see on reddit and twitter seriously, because in a way they're like 4chan. They just spout garbage takes they can come up on a whim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 01:54:33 No.28280802 Report

Quoted By: >>28284562 >>28290280

>>28280435
Doesn't this prove 4chan was right all along and nobody is actually interested in the Homos except as a stick to beat idolfags with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 01:59:42 No.28281135 Report

Quoted By: >>28281469 >>28310730

>>28279843
No one who wasn't already a holostars fan or luxiem fan is excited.

KFP/Takos/Deadbeats/Teammates/Chumbuds will say on reddit/twitter how excited they are but in reality they never watched ANY male vtubers to begin with, they only say it "for unity".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 02:01:17 No.28281254 Report

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I CAN SAVE THEM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 02:02:08 No.28281323 Report

Quoted By: >>28281435

turns out the fujo market was really all chinks after all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 02:03:54 No.28281435 Report

Quoted By: >>28283661 >>28290423

>>28281323
They were fooled by the "Twitter™" audience

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 02:04:20 No.28281469 Report

Quoted By: >>28283432 >>28290009

>>28281135
>they only say it "for unity".
Nah they arent even that altruistic, its literally just a way to attack "incels" and "idolfags"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 02:32:39 No.28283432 Report

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>>28281469
Unity for normies isn't altruistic, it's about appeasing the oshi
Remember when Kiara asked KFP if she could collab with males?
They all said okay for posterity, but in reality they're not okay with it and they will never watch those streams.
Every male collab from EN has lower numbers, that's proof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 02:36:06 No.28283661 Report

Quoted By: >>28283825 >>28290636

>>28281435
If they were fooled by the twitter audience then they deserve to be fooled for being such stupid idiots. It's been known for such a long time now that twitter fags just do it for the likes and retweets. They don't actually watch the streams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 02:36:43 No.28283699 Report

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>>28279843
They wanted Homostars EN because it was against heterosexual men. They were never going to watch 'em.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 02:38:46 No.28283825 Report

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>>28283661
Flashbacks to the huge number of retards talking about how they've never watched Rushia but support her having a boyfriend even though the Fandead were doing nothing and it was entirely antis trying to stir shit up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 02:42:05 No.28284031 Report

Quoted By: >>28300706

>>28279843
I've noticed that, even with Luxiem, they're way more popular on Twitter than on YT. A lot of their fans just like their tweets and don't even watch streams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 02:44:00 No.28284163 Report

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>>28279843
not watching because they just want to own "le incels and ruin idol culture"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 02:49:19 No.28284562 Report

Quoted By: >>28285145 >>28286804

>>28280802
Theres definitely a demand for male Vtubers, Cover just has no idea how to manage male talents so these poor bastards are being lead to the slaughter.

If the Holofanatics are lucky the EN management won't do something dumb like try to break down the wall between hololives men and women because that would be a complete disaster.

That being said, EN's management is completely retarded and the girls have mostly succeeded in spite of their effort so I'm praying for you lads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 02:57:47 No.28285145 Report

Quoted By: >>28286135 >>28290814 >>28291255

>>28284562
>Theres definitely a demand for male Vtubers
No one disputed this, what was disputed was the market and how to pander to them.
Vox has almost a million subs. Luxiem was very successful, but their audience is majority SEA and China.
Cover burnt their bridge with China so cross them off the audience list.
How can HolostarsEN possibly be successful when the english male market is mostly women in asia and they can't pander to China?
They will flop just like HolostarsJP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:02:51 No.28285452 Report

Quoted By: >>28286448 >>28287077

Vtubing will always be dominated by women, men hate women but if they hide behind an avatar and avoid telling anything about their personal life men will watch them. Men don't need to hide behind an avatar in order to have success.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:11:59 No.28286135 Report

Quoted By: >>28286672 >>28292752

>>28285145

>No one disputed this.
Plenty of people disputed it before Luxiem outcompeted their own pre-established female branch, I still see retards denying it even now.

But apart from that you're correct. If any of the EN Homostars actually plan on making money out of this streaming gig they've joined the wrong company.

The worry is that EN's management goes full retard and breaks containment trying to salvage the generation.

Because thats going to go to shit very quickly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:16:36 No.28286448 Report

Quoted By: >>28287591

>>28285452
Men don't hate women, you specifically hate women.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:19:53 No.28286672 Report

Quoted By: >>28287122

>>28286135
>Plenty of people disputed it before Luxiem outcompeted
>Before
Yes, and people disputed math and science before they were proven to be functionally correct.
We don't care about how people acted before a fact was known when discussing *currently* how people would act to a *future* act using *current* knowledge.
I don't know why you think that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:21:58 No.28286804 Report

Quoted By: >>28287238

>>28284562
I want a male vtuber that debuts as a futa god with a giant fucking cock impression in his pants that moves with l2d movement and massive fucking milker jugs that sway in the wind as he mansplains all over the idol culture. he is also a stanch conservative tankie promoting gun ownership, an apex predator, rocket league of legends grand master LCS champion, and minecraft dream luck seed.
why is that too much to ask bros???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:25:52 No.28287077 Report

Quoted By:

>>28285452
Meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:26:27 No.28287122 Report

Quoted By: >>28287620 >>28308253

>>28286672
>Yes, and people disputed math and science before they were proven to be functionally correct.
>We don't care about how people acted before a fact was known when discussing *currently* how people would act to a *future* act using *current* knowledge.
>I don't know why you think that way.

kuzuha was the biggest Niji talent with over a million subscribers at the same time as retards were claiming maletubers didn't work.

I STILL see brain donors shitposting about male Vtubing in current year because they can't name a male talent other than roberu and maybe vox, completely missing the point that male Vtubers aren't fucking MEANT for them.

This might just be negativity bias though so if you don't care about Luxiem you might not have noticed this shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:28:09 No.28287238 Report

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>>28286804
Lmao, thats pretty much the only way anyones watching Homostars EN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:33:29 No.28287591 Report

Quoted By: >>28287903

>>28286448
Wrong. NTA and I also hate women.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:33:52 No.28287620 Report

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>>28287122
The only modern shitting on male vtubers is the saying that since Luxiem's(including Shoto) audience is mostly chinese then any male vtuber who wants to be big has to china pander.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:33:53 No.28287621 Report

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>>28279843
I know Tempus is considered a new unit like Uproar is rather than technically being part of the main Holostars group but it doesn't make much sense to split them to a new Youtube account right now. It would have made more sense to leverage the Holostars channels existing reach for the trailers and then split them off into a separate account if they were successful enough to warrant it or hell, keep them there and sub uploads into Japanese like they're already doing for Japanese content into English

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:36:00 No.28287747 Report

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>>28279843
UH CHUD, WE HAVE WHATS CALLED A LIFE?? YOU'RE THE ONE WITH NOTHING TO DO ALL DAY. AND BESIDES I AM GOING TO WATCH IT, I JUST DIDNT GET AROUND TO IT YET. HAVE SEX. IF THEY FAIL ITS BECAUSE YOU HARRASSED THEM WITH SHITTY THREADS LIKE THIS AND MADE THEIR FANS FEEL BAD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:38:20 No.28287903 Report

Quoted By: >>28288644

>>28287591
Oh sorry, excuse me, I was told this is where the women haters were assembling?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:40:42 No.28288065 Report

Quoted By:

>>28279928
FPBP
Virtue signalers are not customers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 03:48:16 No.28288644 Report

Quoted By:

>>28287903
You must be new here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:08:58 No.28290009 Report

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>>28281469
This is the worst of all, those faggots demand changes to their liking and make a fucking uproar about it, alienate the existing fanbase and then pat themselves in the back, but do they watch the final product they changed to their ''way'' of thinking? fucking no, they never intended to do so, they just wanted to be the virtuous heros who defeated the ''incels'' then go for the next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:10:15 No.28290114 Report

Quoted By:

>>28279928
Leddit updooter ain't audience. Twatter liker watch no stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:12:23 No.28290280 Report

Quoted By:

>>28280802
Yes. They hate it when idolfags are happy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:14:14 No.28290423 Report

Quoted By:

>>28281435
Many many companies fell for that twatter horde scam, pandering to woke culture and losing their customer as a result

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:17:14 No.28290636 Report

Quoted By:

>>28283661
Social media is not the good platform to receiving feedback from customer after all. They closer they are from the product the better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:18:19 No.28290699 Report

Quoted By:

>>28279843
Gordo, I'm sorry you couldn't make it in. Start doing your streaming reps. It's not really that hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:20:07 No.28290814 Report

Quoted By:

>>28285145
God cover's EN market inspection is fucking awful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:26:31 No.28291255 Report

Quoted By: >>28292041 >>28292503 >>28292937

>>28285145
The only way for the homos to be successful is if they are insaely talented and show it on debut, no nervousness whatsoever but sell yourself with what you can do better than anyone after your ''lore'' video is done, else you'll be the talk in the next NijiEN discord convo as the ''Niji rejects'' for your whole career. So come BIG or go home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:38:31 No.28292041 Report

Quoted By: >>28292537

>>28291255
>Be male vtuber
>Have to be insanely talented
>Be female vtuber
>Just have to be female
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:45:11 No.28292503 Report

Quoted By:

>>28291255
Just having a super deep voice is enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:45:42 No.28292537 Report

Quoted By:

>>28292041
Coomers have one hell of a wide reach, don't know what else to say

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:48:54 No.28292752 Report

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>>28286135
I don't think success for them is completely out of the question. Everyone thought luxiem would flop hard and they did the exact opposite and ended up finding a new audience. Of course the problem is that they're boosted by chinks and capturing the chink market for Stars EN is not an option. I think they cooould reach noctyx levels if they play their cards right and the big female twitch chuubas throw them a bone. Iron Mouse going after them is already a given. That and some basic charisma and they could carve out their own niche. Or it could crash and burn like JP stars when they first started out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:51:57 No.28292937 Report

Quoted By: >>28294189

>>28291255
Being seiso create wholesome family friendly content, but it's only good for women. If you want to attract fujo you need to be the bad boys, cruel, sadistic, great acting skill and of course manipulative to provide bfe. Playing it safe for men only make them look like beta male in front of fujo's eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 04:59:55 No.28293376 Report

Quoted By: >>28294184

>>28279843
Where's img of a dinosaur that wanted to kill idol culture?
No further explanation needed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 05:12:25 No.28294184 Report

Quoted By:

>>28279843
>>28293376

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 05:12:29 No.28294189 Report

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>>28292937
Hearing this I am actually worried for the guys's career even more, they can't pander to chinese fujos, they can't act like your brotuber becase flesh ones are infinitely better and they can't act all seiso because they will be seen as fucking betas and a Noctyx lite.... I didn't think there was someone this retarded to enter HomostarsEN, but then again, they might be going after some of the Myth girls without realizing most of them put on a facade on streams and already have boyfriends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 05:14:15 No.28294298 Report

Quoted By: >>28300256 >>28301644

>>28279843
Aren't they still doing better than the new Nijimales?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 05:18:14 No.28294570 Report

Quoted By:

i fail to see the problem here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 07:17:40 No.28300256 Report

Quoted By:

>>28294298
There's new Nijimales?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 07:30:59 No.28300706 Report

Quoted By:

>>28284031
Its funny seeing a Niji girl get like 20k updoots on Twitter but only like 400 viewers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 07:38:00 No.28300939 Report

Quoted By: >>28311086

>>28280223
Why would actual faggots want to watch the girls interact with the homos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 07:48:43 No.28301311 Report

Quoted By: >>28301457

>>28279843
its already a flop
https://twitter.com/ryouhi_ch/status/1548176750269460485

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 07:52:57 No.28301438 Report

Quoted By:

>>28279843
>Where are all the twitter and reddit users
On twitter and reddit. They don't use youtube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 07:53:47 No.28301457 Report

Quoted By: >>28302259

>>28301311
>No shota
High pitched males are hard to find.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 08:01:14 No.28301644 Report

Quoted By: >>28304589

>>28294298
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 08:19:51 No.28302171 Report

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When will companies learn woke troons are not customers? They just want to destroy other's fun hobbies to feel less miserable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 08:22:46 No.28302259 Report

Quoted By:

>>28301457
Loli chuuba exists:
> the entire woketroon and fujo gang wants to cancel her
Shota chuuba exists:
> all the woketroons and fujo gang either want to sex him or want him to get sexed by an older dude
The absolute state

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 08:58:41 No.28303265 Report

Quoted By:

>>28279843
There's a reason that holostars never blew up when pretty much all of hololive did, even the less popular ones. If the fanbase wanted males, holostars JP would be up there in subs with the rest of the company. I feel like the only people who would voluntarily join holostars EN are ones who think it's there chance to get with the girls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 09:01:39 No.28303361 Report

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I remember fondly when some dude told me Cover was intelligent enough to back off from their male project and was not clout chaser like Niji... ah good times

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 09:29:15 No.28304589 Report

Quoted By:

>>28301644
>music video
Not a good comparison

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 10:51:53 No.28308253 Report

Quoted By:

>>28287122
People are generally shitting on the concept of male vtubers targeting a western audience, which you may have noticed Kuzuha and NijiEN are not
Cover explicitly said their goal is a Western female audience, and I assume they set their expectations appropriately low, especially when they originally projected HoloEN would average ~300 viewers in 2020

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 11:44:42 No.28310730 Report

Quoted By:

>>28281135
>Chumbuds will say on reddit/twitter how excited they are but in reality they never watched ANY male vtubers to begin with, they only say it "for unity".
NEVER

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 11:48:45 No.28310901 Report

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wait for the girls to make them popular

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 11:50:16 No.28310976 Report

Quoted By:

>>28279843
I can't wait for this shit to fucking fail. I'm going to throw shade on every fucking comment section possible. No more faggots on Hololive. No more dudes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 11:52:45 No.28311086 Report

Quoted By:

>>28300939
To spite those of us who aren't homosexuals. It's a campaign of vindictive faggotry. This is why we need to shoot them, directly in the head, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 12:08:30 No.28311826 Report

Quoted By:

>>28279843
>So uh...Where are all the twitter and reddit users who claimed they were super excited for EN Holostars and desperately want to see them?
They're all there.along with 81k who were just curious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 12:25:37 No.28312527 Report

Quoted By:

>>28279843
80k isn't too bad. New Nijimales only get like 60k viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 12:26:57 No.28312581 Report

Quoted By:

>>28279843
this is what happens when you pander to redditors

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 12:30:59 No.28312737 Report

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I'll watch them as long as they don't collab with the charisma black hole whores they unfortunately have to share a branch with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 12:31:39 No.28312760 Report

Quoted By:

>>28279843
Twitter trannies don't actually watch shit, as they spend all their time whining on twitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 12:32:55 No.28312798 Report

Quoted By:

The Nijisanji males can get 15k - 20k views when they stream in china hours.
But if they stream in America hours, they get 3k views at most.

Cover is completely banned from the chinese market. So they will not be seeing the same success.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Jul 2022 12:33:47 No.28312827 Report

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>>28279843
It's easy to understand why, the announcement practically flew under the radar. I didn't even know they had been teased until I opened /vt/ yesterday.

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