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discusion about the subjectivity of entertainment, people who hate vtubers and more

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hello, i want to talk about vtubers because i never understood why people like them because i consider their content bad, and also because im bored
i will say why but before i have to make some statements

no i dont think vtubers should stop existing
no i dont think vtubers should get harrased,
no im not here just to say "durr hurr vtuber = bad"
no i dont think "all vtubers fans are stupid" or something between this lines
but we also have to understead that the opposite can be said, im here to say that people who say "vtubers fans are stupid because vtubers are bad content creators" may have a point, not in the "vtuber fans are stupid" part but in the "vtubers are bad content creators"
that being said here is my main point

i never understood why vtuber fans have a such dedicated fanbase, it may have something to do with idol culture but thats for later, i consider streamer in general bad content creators because their content is just based around sitting on a chair and saying stuff, but vtubers in specific are a interesting case because streamers atleast may be funny, may do interesting things in their stream such as playing games at a high level, but the thing is with vtubers is that they dont do that, they are not funny (atleast not in the same level as people who actually make the more traditional style of humor do), they just play normal games all day and sometimes chat, but the thing i noticed about vtubers is not that their content is good, i actually understood why people like it but i dont know if i like what i see, lets go over it

what i undestood about vtuber content is that its not based around something funny or else, its "moe culture" and "idol culture", we have this girl who does a cute voice with a vtuber avatar, i bet my ass that they would not be able to make a (real) stand up comedy special for example, its all about the person itself, they look like those angel-ish beings who are all love, sometimes scream in rage or something else but everyone thinks thats cute so its another part of this perfect thing, idol culture is the thing that adds this look at the people who do the content that they are perfect are should be idolatrized (its in the name), and the moe culture part adds to this "uwu lets say something with a baby voice" thing that people love, but thats the "subjectivity of entertainment" part, the reason why people like vtubers so much is because of the combo of idol culture, waifu culture, parasocial relationships and moe culture? some people dont think thats bad and i dont do either but my point is, if people think thats stupid there is probably a reason for it, i personally (and read that well, personally) think thats kinda lame, because its just obessison with dopamine rush's, but we also have to consider the possibility that im wrong and they are actually funny or something like that, how?
thats the part that i really want to understand, how? i cannot see how they are funny, i cannot see how someone would watch them for reasons other than the ones i listed

and this makes me enter the question of, does "bad entertainment" even exists at all? like some people like the content and some people dont, so there is no way to account how good something is because it depends on the person and not a metric or calculation? if thats true then we cannot judge any content at all because it depends on the viewpoint of the person, boobie streamers? they dont do shit all day but some people like it, shitty isekai animes? the drama the plot and everything else is bad but there is alot of people who watch it so we cannot judge, cardi B songs? its just sex but hey some people jerk off listening to it (the last one is truly subjective)

so i want to know the opinion of people who actually like vtubers on that, im interested

regards, t