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Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:11:41 No.28951351 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>28951414 >>28951422 >>28951491 >>28951832 >>28951853 >>28951946 >>28952012 >>28952079 >>28952902

Magnichads status?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:13:14 No.28951414 Report

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>>28951351
>male debut from a company that harbors an audience who HATES men beats out the western woman's equivalent of HoloEN
how did they do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:13:22 No.28951422 Report

Quoted By: >>28951507 >>28959947

>>28951351
Holy fucking shit, with how much people are sucking Vox's cox, I'd not know that these guys are so fucking irrelevant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:15:01 No.28951491 Report

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>>28951351
he won't convert those meaningfully. it's well known that men are inferior fans compared to women. literally look at any fanbase to see this is true. the blue one probably has more female fans so he will do better long term. brotubers are a meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:15:23 No.28951507 Report

Quoted By: >>28951614

>>28951422
Nijikeks unironically shill their chuubas on vt because they think that this place is the most influential place in Western vtubing, so you see alot of unironic nijishills in this place

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:16:22 No.28951540 Report

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AAIEEEE MILORD TASUKETE

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Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:18:26 No.28951614 Report

Quoted By: >>28951814 >>28951945 >>28952631

Shit bait look at this screencap I just took I think it was a good catch
>>28951507
Holy shit every single thing is a conspiracy to holoEN fans. Phase connect. Magposting. NijiEN males.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:23:27 No.28951814 Report

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>>28951614
Least obvious nijicope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:23:48 No.28951832 Report

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>>28951351
That definitely won’t last

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:24:15 No.28951853 Report

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>>28951351
MAGGER GOLD
MAGGER GOLD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:26:21 No.28951945 Report

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>>28951614
Magged

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:26:22 No.28951946 Report

Quoted By: >>28962052

>>28951351
Fuck off. Niji debuted at a bad time and had a lot of overlap

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:26:36 No.28951951 Report

Quoted By: >>28952021 >>28955301

luxiem made so many fans that the noctyx dudes had 70k CCV on debut
they're basically Myth

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:28:07 No.28952012 Report

Quoted By: >>28952083 >>28952607 >>28952760 >>28952959 >>28953241 >>28956259

>>28951351
Losing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:28:18 No.28952021 Report

Quoted By: >>28952378 >>28953187 >>28953259

>>28951951
>70k CCV on debut
Wow that’s crazy. How the fuck did they end up flopping?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:29:30 No.28952079 Report

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>>28951351
>that Luxiem viewcount going up 1000 every subsequent debut
noice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:29:36 No.28952083 Report

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>>28952012
Magged

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:30:42 No.28952126 Report

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post noctyx numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:37:12 No.28952378 Report

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>>28952021
Shit models, too soon after Luxiem, and only like 2 of them are any good at streaming

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:42:37 No.28952607 Report

Quoted By: >>28952760 >>28953090

>>28952012
Damn, being below fucking Yugo even though Cover poured the entire reddit on them, created the entire website and an additional pre-teaser and forced many of Holo's most popular females as well as all Holo twitter accounts to shill them non stop? Basically the entire Hololive fanbase failed to surpass Yugo's scuffed revenge stream. I'd say it's quite embarrassing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:43:02 No.28952631 Report

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>>28951614
Who's that semen demon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:44:31 No.28952702 Report

Quoted By: >>28952855

The niji boys started low, and then attracted a massive audience over time. They forged that path themselves. So when the second generation of Niji males debuted, they had 80,000 people watching

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:46:03 No.28952760 Report

Quoted By: >>28952853

>>28952607
>>28952012
Reminder that Nijisanji always has a host stream where the previous generations watch the debuts together. That stream had anywhere from 20k to 30k watchers.
So add 20k to all those numbers, that's the total watching the event.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:48:26 No.28952853 Report

Quoted By: >>28952936

>>28952760
Wouldn't people just have both streams open? Counting numbers from both seems dishonest in that case no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:48:31 No.28952855 Report

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>>28952702
Actually, at the peak of Noctyx debut (Alban), they had 100k+ people across main channel, debutant channel and 2 waiting rooms (Fulgar and Yugo). They would actually pull out total 100k+ ccv (main channel + debutant) if the management didn't make a critical mistake of putting 2 weakest members at the very end. What happens next - everyone knows: Fulgur scared away all fugos and Yugo's debut stream was completely cancelled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:49:06 No.28952880 Report

Quoted By: >>28952950

So basically Luxiem walked so Temple Run coukd flop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:49:38 No.28952902 Report

Quoted By: >>28960033

>>28951351
To be fair NijiEN males were building an entirely new audience, there wasn't anything like them before. HoloEN men are now taking from the already existing audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:50:09 No.28952936 Report

Quoted By: >>28953000 >>28961249

>>28952853
No, it was already proven that youtube only counts only one active stream. The only way to watch it and have your view counted for both - use 2 different devices.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:50:38 No.28952950 Report

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>>28952880
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:50:50 No.28952959 Report

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>>28952012
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:52:04 No.28953000 Report

Quoted By: >>28953136 >>28953425 >>28961249

>>28952936
Ah cool, didn't know that. So only the first stream in holodex gets the view counted? I guess they do that to discourage mass view botting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:54:10 No.28953090 Report

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>>28952607
Yugo's actual debut was essentially a guerrilla at the dead of night for anyone in NA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:55:15 No.28953128 Report

Quoted By: >>28953199

The Niji dudes built that audience out of nothing. Look at where they started and then ended up. They paved the road to where Hololive could even have a HolostarsEN. You can see the difference when Noctyx debuted and how much bigger their numbers were than Luxiem initially.

The truth is that Luxiem is one of a kind and it's hard to see any other male vtuber group taking away their audience share at this point. I'd be very suprised if holostarsEN overperforms Noctyx.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:55:25 No.28953136 Report

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>>28953000
Yes, for holodeck, it's either only first one or neither at all, because I suspect that youtube doesn't count embedded streams. Because otherwise someone would create a website with 1000+ embedded streams, easily 1000+ viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:56:46 No.28953187 Report

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>>28952021
Same reason StarsEN will flop. Shit at streaming and shit models

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:57:09 No.28953199 Report

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>>28953128
The only way that they can start losing ground is if many of them are absent from streaming like Mysta wanting to cut down on his streaming... or Ike constantly being occupied with production work... and isn't Vox taking a break soon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:58:14 No.28953241 Report

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>>28952012
AIEEEE MAGLORD TASUKETE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 07:58:44 No.28953259 Report

Quoted By: >>28953326

>>28952021
>How the fuck did they end up flopping?
They didn't bring anything new to the table, they were just Luxiem 2.0. That means they didn't attract any new fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 08:00:50 No.28953326 Report

Quoted By: >>28953391

>>28953259
I disagree to a point, some of them don't stream near time slots in which Luxiem streams at. Alban, Uki, and Fulgur tend to stream at friendlier NA and Euro times. The only Luxiem member that's more NA friendly is Shu. Sonny and Yugo tends to stream at NA unfriendly hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 08:02:48 No.28953391 Report

Quoted By: >>28953490

>>28953326
My point was not about overlap. I was talking how they didn't attract new fans because they didn't bring anything new. And most of current fans won't just simply watch them because their Luxiem oshis are not streaming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 08:03:46 No.28953425 Report

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>>28953000
I'm pretty sure holodex doesn't even count you as a viewer because it's embedded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 08:03:57 No.28953435 Report

Quoted By: >>28953530

kek, shitting on niji is fine but shitting on holo is autosaged >>28953098

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 08:05:48 No.28953490 Report

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>>28953391
They're building up a different fanbase in different time zones. People have a life that has its own schedule. People are pulled more to something that is live than an archived video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 08:06:54 No.28953530 Report

Quoted By: >>28953792

>>28953435
Yeah we already know the mods love Hololive and detest Nijisanji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 08:14:10 No.28953792 Report

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>>28953530
Hololive board, so I don't know why you are here, instead of making a Nijisanji board

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 08:53:46 No.28955301 Report

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>>28951951
None of them made it to 70k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 09:19:55 No.28956259 Report

Quoted By: >>28958424 >>28958620

>>28952012
>comparing the 2nd wave to the 1st
ngmi nijikek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 10:17:09 No.28958424 Report

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>>28956259
yeah a good portion of those who watched starsEN debut were brought by Luxiem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 10:23:28 No.28958620 Report

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>>28956259
>wave
It's kinda funny how you try to pose as holofan, nijifag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 11:04:10 No.28959947 Report

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>>28951422
I've watched Vox and don't find the guy funny at all really. I do have some indog friends who like him but never specify why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 11:06:54 No.28960033 Report

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>>28952902
An already existing audience that hates them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 11:36:52 No.28961249 Report

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>>28952936
Say you've got 3 tabs each with a different stream, how does yt allocate the view?
First one started? Last one started? Last one interacted with? (chat or likes etc.,?)
>>28953000
Have heard that honored doesn't count to views.
If you want to give your oshi them numbers it has to be on yt directly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Jul 2022 11:51:30 No.28962052 Report

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>>28951946
> bad time
> had a lot of overlap
You're talking as if Niji EN6 isn't literally on the horizon.

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