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Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 03:56:20 No.29323450 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29323601 >>29323629 >>29323643 >>29323711 >>29323712 >>29324119 >>29333020 >>29333788 >>29335113 >>29335916 >>29337648 >>29338708 >>29339136 >>29339218 >>29339934 >>29341868 >>29342465 >>29343050

Why do they limit starsen's streams to just 1 hour? For what fucking purpose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 03:58:14 No.29323601 Report

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>>29323450
Management is retarded. Pls understand

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 03:58:35 No.29323629 Report

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>>29323450
They're too powerful, Yagoo needed to debuff them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 03:58:52 No.29323643 Report

Quoted By: >>29323995

>>29323450

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 03:59:34 No.29323690 Report

Quoted By: >>29323995 >>29333269

Management is genuinely stupid and put that 1 hour time limit for a month to prevent burnout. Not a week or two, a full month.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 03:59:40 No.29323711 Report

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>>29323450
Their precious little bodies would combust please understand

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 03:59:40 No.29323712 Report

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>>29323450
It's fine, they've already found a loophole around it in collabs. Start one pov and when the hour is up, end the stream and start the other pov.
Get fucked omega.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:01:47 No.29323944 Report

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I guess Sana being retarded made them decide they should micromanage their schedules so that another Sana doesn't happen and the new members get used to having a streaming schedule like the JPs do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:02:06 No.29323995 Report

Quoted By: >>29324223 >>29324235 >>29324361 >>29333137 >>29342899

>>29323643
>>29323690
What fucking burnout? It's just an hour, for fuck's sake. At least let them stream for another two or three. This is not them "being kind" or "treat them with care", it's simply more of a talent opression at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:02:44 No.29324063 Report

Quoted By: >>29325724 >>29337537

Unironically it gives viewers a better chance to check out all of the boys, especially when they do the redirect train in these 4 hour blocks. For example I've been able to catch every single stream of theirs so far without it taking half of the day

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:03:26 No.29324119 Report

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>>29323450
Omega being a FUCKING retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:03:38 No.29324142 Report

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They're afraid JP interest will die if they let Nowa go off on a 7 hour zatsu. They fear his power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:04:38 No.29324223 Report

Quoted By: >>29324403 >>29324613

>>29323995
Look at what happened to council in the first year.
I think they'll micromanage every new holos schedule at least for a few months going forward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:04:46 No.29324235 Report

Quoted By: >>29324613

>>29323995
They're afraid of repeating the same mistakes of council being burnout and never recovering from the burnout

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:06:11 No.29324361 Report

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>>29323995
Nobody knows why management is this strict, and it's baffling since the demand if you look at view counts is very much there. They can compete not only against some of the Holos but even vtubers from other agencies, its one of the worst decisions Cover management made when they hired actually entertaining people that want to stream this time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:06:35 No.29324403 Report

Quoted By: >>29333954 >>29334768

>>29324223
Holox, ID3 and Uproar were definitely not micromanaged. All those groups had at least 1 member who went way past any time limit. This will most likely be an EN-only thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:08:41 No.29324561 Report

Quoted By: >>29324959

I don't think Managment did a bad thing. They are learning from their mistakes and ensure the new talents get used to their new job.

Look what happened to council. It was a messy start. Can't blame Managment for playing safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:09:25 No.29324613 Report

Quoted By: >>29325113 >>29336544 >>29342899

>>29324223
>>29324235
Pretty sure some of the council girls are just lazy or not actually dedicated to stream in the first place. Since Holoen's blow up, people are starting to aim at this new WHOA big thing either for clout or money. Not to mention the nepo hire. These dudes on the other hand, came in with absolutely zero clue of what's gonna happen. It's like they're showing up to Omaha beach with just the will of their balls. But despite that, they still manage survive anyway because they're actually passionate with it. It's entirely a different case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:13:47 No.29324959 Report

Quoted By: >>29335406 >>29336544

>>29324561
What happened to them? None of them did Korone's numbers. They all streamed around 2-3 hours and not even daily for some. Do you really think those are huge numbers? Just because some of them ended up having scattered schedules later down the line doesn't mean the mistake was not wrangling them to make their streams under a certain time limit early one. Jesus fucking Christ, it's like the moment that faggot came back the management defense force became even more obnoxious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:15:55 No.29325113 Report

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>>29324613
>council girls are just lazy
They're just in it for the clout and money, please understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:22:37 No.29325724 Report

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>>29324063
Sure, for the introductory week it’s honestly not a bad idea. However, if this shit is a MONTH?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 04:24:53 No.29325916 Report

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Management's dumb decision. The girls didn't have this since if you look at their early streams it ranged from 1~3 hours which seems pretty reasonable. Just at it to the pile of other shoot yourself in the foot moments that management has done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 05:57:58 No.29333020 Report

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>>29323450
>cover is retarded
what else is new? they've been like that since 2020

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 05:59:56 No.29333137 Report

Quoted By: >>29333304

>>29323995
vesper initially said it was a suggestion from management to ease them in and prevent burnout, which sounded understandable since it sounded like a suggestion, but the guys were legitimately getting bonked by management for going over 1 hour, so suggestion my ass and they're being extremely fucking stupid. the amount of times the guys have said "man i wanna keep going" has been a lot higher than it should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:01:51 No.29333269 Report

Quoted By: >>29342577

>>29323690
That's an excuse
Since when a man had "burnout" from steaming? This is nonsense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:02:18 No.29333304 Report

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>>29333137
unironically I think it's because they're used to dealing with GIRLS and WOMEN are WEAK

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:05:35 No.29333535 Report

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60 minutes is the minimum amount of time to be eligible for full ad revenue and also what the algorithm likes. It has nothing to do with burnout; they are treating these guys like a factory rather than streamers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:08:11 No.29333707 Report

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was really enjoying Noir's West of Loathing Stream but cover corp decided I'd rather watch absolutely nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:09:40 No.29333788 Report

Quoted By: >>29333826

>>29323450
>don't care even when doxxed
>masculine stamina
>streaming for the boys
having these advantages makes male vtubers superior and they can surely outstream any GFE anytime that's why they are nerfed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:10:19 No.29333826 Report

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>>29333788
>gfe
your problem is assuming that Noir Vesper isn't my husband.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:10:47 No.29333859 Report

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I would unironically sell my soul to the rape devil so that he can sodomize Omegay and the entire EN management to death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:12:39 No.29333954 Report

Quoted By: >>29334663

>>29324403
>ID
ID is built different. Look at Kaela. She started as the weakest ID, gathering the smallest viewership and grinded her way up to mog almost everyone in holoEN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:20:34 No.29334443 Report

Quoted By: >>29334864

The real reason

>>29221229
>>29221229
>>29221229

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:24:47 No.29334663 Report

Quoted By: >>29334875

>>29333954
Kaela and Kobo are truly making a repeat of Gen 3. Even Zeta is doing better than most of her senpai, but those 2 are something else. And Kaela is probably up there on the viewers/subs ratio, being able to compete with members with 5 times her subcount.

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:24:56 No.29334677 Report

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>"They're having fun..? End the stream."

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:26:32 No.29334768 Report

Quoted By: >>29334827 >>29342651

>>29324403
>Uproar
What is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:27:15 No.29334800 Report

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The burnout shit is a flimsy smokescreen. They are testing out shorter-form content after Salome's explosion 2 months ago and wanted to use the boys as a trial run instead of risking the growth of a female gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:27:39 No.29334827 Report

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>>29334768
Uproar is StarsJP's latest boys

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:28:06 No.29334864 Report

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>>29334443
Holy shit it's actually true

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:28:12 No.29334875 Report

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>>29334663
>most of her senpai
Ain't a high bar when your senpais named iofi anya reine risu ollie kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:30:25 No.29335011 Report

Quoted By: >>29335234

Vesper felt like he was rushing. It's a stupid rule. Let the guys manage their own content

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:32:17 No.29335113 Report

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>>29323450
It's fine. Niji's-ojou proved that if you're really good streamer you can survive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:34:30 No.29335234 Report

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>>29335011
Vesper has been the one most harshly affected. Magni went 20 minutes over in an act of defiance and Axel went 10 minutes over today after losing track of time. Vesper is a good lad though and respects rules so the time limit puts actual pressure on him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:37:38 No.29335406 Report

Quoted By: >>29335723

>>29324959
I think everyone's arguing the fact that Council never got into the idea of streaming, we ended up with a lazy and useless gen. That the micromanaging isn't actually to avoid burnout really but rather to enforce structure. The problem with EN's has never been that they burn out, it's that they have no structure whatsoever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:43:48 No.29335723 Report

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>>29335406
Forcing them to obey a timelimit when they're probably the most hungry to stream, build their audiences and interact with their fans is a terrible way to create structure. And it's not like other branches have this clear defined structure either. Unless the contract changed for Tempus they could just stream for 1 hours, 3 days a week and call it a day, so how micromanaging them this early will help them have structure in a month, 2, 6 or a year from now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:47:19 No.29335916 Report

Quoted By: >>29342431

>>29323450
Why are trannies like you suddenly starting to complain about the preexisting standards nobody ever gave a fuck about?

This vtuber faggot must be really popular among Amerimutt Twatter trannyggers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:48:41 No.29335993 Report

Quoted By: >>29336120

I don’t know the reason, but it was fucking retarded how Regis and Magni had to split their A Way Out collab tonight between both their channels just so they can stream for more than an hour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:50:50 No.29336120 Report

Quoted By: >>29336401

>>29335993
if anything that was really clever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:56:15 No.29336401 Report

Quoted By: >>29336480

>>29336120
It was, but it shouldn’t had to come to that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:57:59 No.29336480 Report

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>>29336401
oh yeah. with enough resistance i hope omega will eventually concede earlier than 1 month, because the dudes clearly want to stream for longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 06:59:11 No.29336544 Report

Quoted By: >>29341594

>>29324959
>>29324613
IRyS's demise probably gave them PTSD. Their investment in a new project was almost ruined because she streamed too frequently early on. Likely want to make sure these 4 guys manage to establish some presences first before developing throat nodules like IRyS, Marine, Pekora, Suisei and god knows how many other Holos

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 07:19:02 No.29337537 Report

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>>29324063
But a whole ass month? That's excessive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 07:21:09 No.29337648 Report

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>>29323450
Noir. Noir, we need to cook.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 07:44:09 No.29338708 Report

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>>29323450
Something to do with algos please understan

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 07:54:05 No.29339136 Report

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>>29323450
So any momentum they might have would burn out so they quit on their own

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 07:56:09 No.29339218 Report

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>>29323450
1. Burnout
2. Drip feeding new fans with their content

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 08:13:47 No.29339934 Report

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>>29323450
the real reason is probably a numberfagging tactic since youtube's algorithm seems to like streams with high viewer retention, which is more manageable for short streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 08:54:58 No.29341594 Report

Quoted By: >>29341897

>>29336544
>Their investment in a new project was almost ruined because she streamed too frequently early on.
Irys absolutely exploded out the gate. She was the fastest vtuber to 500k subs at the time. Her streaming "too frequently" was not an issue at all. The problem was she was completely isolated for everyone else in Hololive for an entire month because of the retarded collab ban. Holos in normal gens can at least collab with their genmates and build camaraderie but Irys was basically left out to dry for over a month and even after that Omega tried to block her from JP collabs because he has a stick up his ass about EN being kept seperate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 08:59:56 No.29341769 Report

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Magging press

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:02:48 No.29341868 Report

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>>29323450
Copying Salami. Like they do with everything niji does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:03:25 No.29341897 Report

Quoted By: >>29341979 >>29342094

>>29341594
The ability to collab wasn't really a big deal. What seriously killed IRyS's momentum was her throat nodule. Ever since she was diagnosed with it, she had to cut down her streaming frequency. Having to take almost a month off to rest her throat (except going for recordings), then switching from streaming 5-6 days, and 5-8 times a week (+ 1-2 karaoke a month) to 3-5 times or less a week (+ 0-1 karaoke a month) pretty much stopped her numbers from rising. Nowadays, she can only stream 3-5 times a week, and take a day off before and after recording days. I'm sure StarsEN management doesn't want to risk the Homo having to drop their streaming frequencies in the same way, especially when unlike HololiveEN, HoloStarsEN is still new and hasn't established their presence in the Western market yet. IRyS might have survived it, but I'm sure if any of the Stars is to take a month of now, that guy will turn into a 3 view in no time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:05:40 No.29341979 Report

Quoted By: >>29342339 >>29343403

>>29341897
Why does everyone in Hololive develop these throat nodules. Marine, Pekora, Lui, Irys, Suisei

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:08:43 No.29342094 Report

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>>29341897
I fucking hate management for piling up all her recording sessions into a few days ultimately crippling her and she's still hasn't made a complete recovery for almost a year now. Management are complete retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:15:40 No.29342339 Report

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>>29341979
They're pretty common considering Holos hit pretty much every checkbox to cause them.

All extended stress on the vocal chords can cause them, even worse if you are adding extra stress by doing a fake voice for extended periods, singing, recording... I personally got diagnosed with them after a few weeks of non-stop presentations some years ago.

Obviously doesn't mean it has to happen under those circumstances, there are holos that are doing it all without issues, some just lost the genetic lottery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:18:03 No.29342426 Report

Quoted By: >>29342497

Nah they just want stars to match the same streaming hours as the holoen branch.

They can't possiblely have stars outshine the main market of female streamers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:18:13 No.29342431 Report

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>>29335916
>This vtuber faggot must be really popular among Amerimutt Twatter trannyggers.
Are you ok in the head?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:19:08 No.29342465 Report

Quoted By: >>29342507

>>29323450
They are there just to fuck the girls. Bae cant wait too long...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:19:57 No.29342497 Report

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>>29342426
>You can't stream more than the girls because it would make them look bad.
That's bullshit but I believe it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:20:10 No.29342507 Report

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>>29342465
Bae cuckshed has room for two people.

Daddy knows best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:22:01 No.29342577 Report

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>>29333269
Ive seen one but he streamed 100 hours a weak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:23:51 No.29342651 Report

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>>29334768
Anon... Why did you have to rub salt on the wound... At least Rio is improving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:27:08 No.29342784 Report

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>limiting streaming before channels get monetized and become profitable
>cocktease the audience and keep them waiting for more content
>save longer streams for full monetization
it's not that complicated

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:30:10 No.29342899 Report

Quoted By: >>29342960

>>29323995
Would you look at that, the homo victim complex starts anew
>>29324613
And there's the other part the toxicity and need to feel superior despite being lower level

HomoJP trash is back baby!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:31:41 No.29342954 Report

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>>29233844
Omega/EN management fucked up with council. They will fuck up with Tempus. Myth succeeded despite his incompetence by sheer timing.
A month of 1 hour limit is absolutely absurd. At least MANS have balls to stand up to Omega (Magni demonstrated already) so there is hope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:31:49 No.29342960 Report

Quoted By: >>29343183

>>29342899
There is no lower level, I'd kill to even be a 2view within hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:34:46 No.29343050 Report

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>>29323450
I think the one hour works fine with non-gaming content in their case, they are just entertaining enough to keep you engaged while still also leaving a lot to be explored. Their second collab stream has a lot of great moments despite being only being a hour long plus some change

The hour limit does completely fuck over gaming content however, Axel’s apex stream is a good example, just as shit was starting to get real good with Regis joining the stream end like 15 minutes later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:38:40 No.29343183 Report

Quoted By: >>29343327 >>29344182

>>29342960
You have a vastly smaller market, the average vtuber fan doesn't and will never care about male vtubers, and yet you people will demand the world and feel like equals. If you let these shitty people go on unabated you're gonna end up just like homoJP, stagnant and scaring off any person who even thinks of checking you're chuubas out. No one wants to be around people with unwarranted self-importance, you should have learned this in high school

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:42:21 No.29343327 Report

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>>29343183
Sorry you feel that way man, I don't care about your reddit tier monologue though, you are treating something as insignificant as vtubers as a big deal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:44:24 No.29343403 Report

Quoted By: >>29343469 >>29343944

>>29341979
These people lie to you about everything. Literally everything. For those of us that did our reps, we can see just how badly everyone's getting lied to, it creates a different perspective. Nothing they are telling you is the truth. I would wager a guess that none of these people even got throat nodules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:45:54 No.29343469 Report

Quoted By: >>29343588

>>29343403
Please take your meds, your mom is worried about you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:49:02 No.29343588 Report

Quoted By: >>29343720 >>29343839 >>29343983 >>29344232 >>29344533 >>29346382

>>29343469
These people sit there, and with a straight fucking face, they lie to you about everything. Who they are, where they live, their marital status, their political inclinations. Everything. All of this to create a false persona so they can emotionally blackmail donations out of people. These people are not who they claim to be, and what they're doing is despicable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:51:47 No.29343720 Report

Quoted By: >>29343864

>>29343588
Holy fuck you're pathetic, you talk about them as if they're world leaders endangering humanity or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:54:57 No.29343839 Report

Quoted By: >>29343864

>>29343588
Pathetic baby whining about the real world, have you ever held a job in your life?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:55:23 No.29343864 Report

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>>29343720
>>29343839
take your meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:55:25 No.29343867 Report

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Local anon learns about kayfabe for the first time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:58:07 No.29343944 Report

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>>29343403
>It's the Rushia + Laplus schizo
So you've fooled yourself into thinking you have super secret info nobody else has. You legit need mental therapy anon. You don't know anything about them that the rest of us don't

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 09:59:15 No.29343983 Report

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>>29343588
>vtuber plays a role, this is bad! They need to be like fleshtubers!
kys fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 10:04:31 No.29344182 Report

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>>29343183
Does someone have the Axel "I'm not reading that" shit post?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 10:05:51 No.29344232 Report

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>>29343588
*kills you*
*rapes you*

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 10:14:36 No.29344533 Report

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>>29343588
if you're emotionally weak enough to get black mailed into donating your money that's on you
not their fault there are crazies out there who can't separate entertainment from reality

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jul 2022 11:02:14 No.29346382 Report

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>>29343588
You're schizo but you're also right
>I have to see the doctor.... at 7 PM in the evening
I wish my PCP was open late into the evening fucking old man and his pajeet assistant stiffing me on checkups.

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