>>31451867traditional non jp rpgs, colony/factory sims, trad and some lite roguelikes, 4x, grand strategy, puzzle
there's actually a really simple litmus test. if it was made with consoles in mind, it's for midwits.
for example. the single biggest blow to the western RPG wave was the console (e.g. witcher, skyrim, meme movie rpgs like new god of wars. all trash)