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/#/ - Numbers

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:56:00 No.33616908 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:56:34 No.33616927 Report

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:56:55 No.33616937 Report

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Looks like easy gura gold today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:56:59 No.33616942 Report

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bots

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:57:35 No.33616969 Report

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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>96,590: Pekora (Hololive)
>34,767: Miko (Hololive)
>30,866: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,169: Lamy (Hololive)
>24,243: Miko (Hololive)
>20,865: Luna (Hololive)
>18,737: Fubuki (Hololive)
>18,679: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>18,469: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>17,353: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,023: Mio (Hololive)
>15,971: Polka (Hololive)
>15,890: Korone (Hololive)
>15,840: Runa (VSPO)
>14,554: Sora (Hololive)
>14,270: GatchmanV (Indie)
>13,478: Chloe (Hololive)
>13,170: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,392: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>11,723: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,632: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,386: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,085: Lui (Hololive)
>10,983: Ame (Hololive)
>10,911: Leos (Nijisanji)
>10,631: NeruMero (Indie)

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:57:38 No.33616971 Report

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the last unicorn

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:57:44 No.33616976 Report

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miko baby

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:58:09 No.33616998 Report

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So there are 2 main point for Pekora number to peak today
>Caster Cu Chulainn encounter
>Olga death
Olga death will most likely peak higher

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:58:17 No.33617006 Report

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>>33616969
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden
12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day2
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order

>PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
2x Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
3x: Miko
2x: Ayame, Marine
1x: Botan, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji Sora, Subaru, Suisei

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
168x: Hololive
84x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
34x: Pekora
17x: Miko
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
10x: Nijisanji, Subaru
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:58:17 No.33617007 Report

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>>33616759
How much did they sell, what's the margins there? Need i remind you we're talking about financials anon? You sure they're not actually losing money on that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:59:17 No.33617050 Report

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Does this thread only discuss numbers without discussing why they get those numbers?
Because I know anons discuss why someone or something gets those numbers.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:59:18 No.33617051 Report

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/#/ is declining

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:59:30 No.33617059 Report

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>>33616780
Where the fuck did I say she's idol-like? Also she clearly likes to play with her female senpai more than the Stars, so yeah.
>>33616840
Only occasionally but yes, I do. Started with Black Mesa and currently watching her HL2 playthorugh and Rust streams when I catch her live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:59:36 No.33617069 Report

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https://twitter.com/1000000lome/status/1571816409813774336
https://twitter.com/1000000lome/status/1571816409813774336
numbers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:59:46 No.33617073 Report

Quoted By: >>33617143 >>33617530

So if the financial report is real then I think there’s only one actual winner and that is the “NijiJP is fucking useless” schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:59:56 No.33617083 Report

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>>33616976

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 05:59:56 No.33617084 Report

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>>33616937
>easy

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:00:16 No.33617099 Report

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>>33617051
hey man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:00:27 No.33617111 Report

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>>33617069
They better mix it well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:00:48 No.33617127 Report

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>>33617050
We do
But only if number are out of the ordinary

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:00:50 No.33617129 Report

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>>33616908
/news/ roundup for 19-09-2022
>>33557988
Recent clip numbers
>>33543741
>>33543786
>>33544452
>>33544625

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:00:53 No.33617130 Report

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Back to number talk
>Ame king sitting at 630k after 5 days
>Kiara's Do U original at 350k after 2ish days
>Calli's new original sitting at 52k after 3 hours
>Bae's original sitting at 431k after 3 weeks
>Bae/Mumei preydatory cover sitting at 261k after 3 days
apart from Ame's, which one had the best results?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:00:54 No.33617131 Report

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>>33617069
40-45k

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:00:55 No.33617133 Report

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>>33617050
This this is full hindsight fanfiction writing anon. Just get the numbers and make your own conclusion out of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:01:02 No.33617143 Report

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>>33617073
He was right in the end. NijiJP is useless while NijiEN is carrying the whole company.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:01:27 No.33617161 Report

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>>33617050
if you discuss context here people respond with COPE
for either holo or niji, you only ever get to state your prediction and rationale beforehand, otherwise it's just excuses

(of course if the stream you're predicting gets surprise guerilla overlapped that's probably the biggest ethical cope)

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:01:30 No.33617164 Report

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>>33617069
Poor post producer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:01:37 No.33617168 Report

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>>33617130
Bae has a new original?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:01:49 No.33617175 Report

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>>33617069
>Salome singing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:01:59 No.33617185 Report

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>>33617130
Animal fucking died holy...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:02:29 No.33617217 Report

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>>33617069
premiere ccv? 30k floor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:02:40 No.33617225 Report

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>>33617051
https://youtu.be/QF1ArApWvdQ?t=224

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:02:45 No.33617227 Report

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>>33616095
... okey? they got more money? how's any of that helping their talents?
Their 3D has gone to absolute shit, actually regressing from how it used to be, their EN recruiting program took apparently 30k applications and somehow thought fucking iLuna were what they needed for the brand. They're putting strong collab groups like Dokuzuhonsha and SMCgumi into fucking idol groups and having them do shit tier singing rather than the bantz filled collabs that are their strength.

Who's your niji oshi anyway? Bet you don't have one. Bet you're just shitposting without understanding a single thing. Bet you'll just ignore this comment or reply with some form of projection again.
Why do I even bother...

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:03:26 No.33617266 Report

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>>33616976

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:03:27 No.33617268 Report

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>>33617069
I'll bite, lots of her old tourists will be interested.
50k

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:03:44 No.33617282 Report

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>>33617069
Is this premiere or live?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:03:44 No.33617284 Report

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>>33617217
Can it beat ROF-MAO? Like the most popular unit in NijiJP

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:04:13 No.33617305 Report

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>>33616976
cute baby, i wonder if there's an Among Us costume piece based off her?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:04:28 No.33617317 Report

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>>33617227
>how's any of that helping their talents?
Its not their job to help the talents though. The talents need to help themselves. The companies only goal is to make money.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:05:04 No.33617340 Report

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>>33617051
hey meng

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:05:08 No.33617345 Report

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>>33617161
context IS cope
its like explaining a joke, if you have to do it then it doesn't work.
Same thing with numbers, if you have to convince someone that they're actually Inclining because x y and z, then they most likely aren't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:05:17 No.33617353 Report

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>>33617284
First time buff. But it cannot beat ROFLMAO.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:06:07 No.33617392 Report

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September events

Hololive
16) Subaru anniversary, Moona 3D debut
17) Iofi 3D debut
18) Risu 3D debut, Gura 3D live
20) HoloID mini 3D live

Nijisanji
16) Kuzuhacup
17) Kuzuhacup
18) CRcup (Kuzuha)
28) Kuzuhaday
30) Nijifes fantasia

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:06:11 No.33617395 Report

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>>33617130
>Bae's original
That was a cover anon

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:06:25 No.33617404 Report

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>>33617266

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:06:34 No.33617408 Report

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>>33617050
wdym everytime there's a discussion about the reason behind the numbers it always followed by debates full of insult and stuff, Pretty common here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:06:50 No.33617419 Report

Quoted By: >>33618247

When is the Among Us x Hololive thing happening?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:07:08 No.33617433 Report

Quoted By: >>33617478

>>33617099
Is this thread funny enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:07:45 No.33617455 Report

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>>33617345
but people ignore the joke on purpose

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:08:20 No.33617475 Report

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>>33617007
Sold decently well on Steam, but sales for the game have been open for a while on Holo's official store. We'll never get those numbers and it was definitely higher there.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:08:28 No.33617478 Report

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>>33617433
still too early to call

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:08:44 No.33617492 Report

Quoted By: >>33617521

>>33617345
>if you have to convince someone that they're actually Inclining because x y and z, then they most likely aren't.
That is an awful reasoning. If I say Enna is inclining because of her increasing ccv but is not convinced and I still have to show x=ccv before inclining, y=ccv after inclining and z=graph trends, then Enna did not incline?

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:09:30 No.33617521 Report

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>>33617492
Cope

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:09:40 No.33617530 Report

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>>33617073
>>33617143
No, he's not. Nijisanji still is bigger by far. They only have an advantage on individual revenue, but over time this will get smaller

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:10:22 No.33617555 Report

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>>33617130
Kiara probably, but Mori's just an MV release for a song that's been out for a while. Bae's song also isn't an original.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:10:30 No.33617561 Report

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>>33617006
>1x Azki
Huh??

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:10:48 No.33617575 Report

Quoted By: >>33617802

>>33617227
>Their 3D has gone to absolute shit, actually regressing from how it used to be, their EN recruiting program took apparently 30k applications
where the fuck this 30k comes from? No one on EN ever said anything about number of auditions
>They're putting strong collab groups like Dokuzuhonsha and SMCgumi into fucking idol groups and having them do shit tier singing rather than the bantz filled collabs that are their strength.
No they aren't, what the fuck are you talking about retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:11:06 No.33617583 Report

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>>33617227
>any of that helping their talents
That is irrelevant, why would anyone think it is is beyond me, they're in the business of advertising/promoting/merchandising. If they has 30k applicants, way more than enough, they can probably save a lot by not doing things that would increase that number.

>Who's your niji oshi anyway
Never watched a niji stream, never have I implied I did in any of my posts. I just watch charts and read reports

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:11:34 No.33617599 Report

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>>33617561
How new are you? She got it from her live concert

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:11:37 No.33617602 Report

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>>33617561
Azki live funneled by PekoMiko

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:12:01 No.33617613 Report

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>>33617530
Yeah NijiEN is already contracting. EN got a really strong boost off a high point for the branch in Q1. iluna is also a fucking pit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:12:41 No.33617639 Report

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So what now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:13:00 No.33617653 Report

Quoted By: >>33617685 >>33617740 >>33617775

>>33617613
NijiEN is only "contracting" because of iluna. If all of iluna graduates, they would be way higher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:13:16 No.33617663 Report

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>>33617639
We kiss each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:13:22 No.33617668 Report

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>>33617639
xqc is live so I'm checking the drama buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:13:26 No.33617671 Report

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>>33617006
Damn gura have 5 daily gold despite not spamming stream? Imagine if she try.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:13:29 No.33617674 Report

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>>33617639
Laugh at ENsharts

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:13:40 No.33617685 Report

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>>33617653
not true

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:13:51 No.33617691 Report

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>>33617530
No wonder why Riku wanted to accelerate on the English market. But Iluna did not do as well as expected.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:13:51 No.33617692 Report

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> ongoing streams on vrabi
VSPO is proving to be quite strong, aren't they?

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:13:56 No.33617694 Report

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I am incredibly whelmed but this graph after the weeks worth of drama she's put out

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:14:05 No.33617700 Report

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>>33617639
pray for something exciting to happen in JP time or just go to bed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:14:25 No.33617713 Report

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>>33617602
With Sora and Suisei buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:14:38 No.33617724 Report

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>>33617639
Predict ID1 3D Live

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:14:49 No.33617728 Report

Quoted By: >>33617752 >>33617776 >>33617798 >>33617851 >>33617989 >>33618072 >>33618583

It's funny to me how this is a numbers thread but Anycolor making lots of money offend you all. You guys would be terrible business analysts if you think about all of this bs and not about numbers. no wonder you guys cant read financial reports kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:14:58 No.33617740 Report

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>>33617653
No. Luxium is falling and most of them are stagnant. iluna is just the big joke on top of it all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:15:05 No.33617745 Report

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>>33617724
What is the highest stream in holoID channel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:15:09 No.33617747 Report

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>>33617668
>30k in 8 minutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:15:19 No.33617752 Report

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>>33617728
Nijiseethe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:15:53 No.33617775 Report

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>>33617653
>>33617691
anon you know nijisanji right. if iluna did well or not, they still would put more vtubers in the market. fucking kr and id got what 5 waves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:15:54 No.33617776 Report

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>>33617728
Who are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:16:00 No.33617781 Report

Quoted By: >>33618370

very peaceful, all the cope washed away by the almighty filter

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:16:15 No.33617798 Report

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>>33617728

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:16:24 No.33617802 Report

Quoted By: >>33617895

>>33617575
NTA
>where the fuck this 30k comes from? No one on EN ever said anything about number of auditions
Our sisters here spread that info. Do you mean that the number is just made up?

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:17:00 No.33617824 Report

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>Chainsaw man - Main trailer
19 hours ago : 5M views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4yLeNt-kCU

Those are very nice numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:17:45 No.33617851 Report

Quoted By: >>33617931 >>33618035

>>33617728
I mean yeah good for them but I could not care less. I only care about the number of people I watch and I certainly don’t watch a fucking corpo lol
Only reason I even care about corpo is because my chuuba will be in trouble if they are in trouble

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:17:52 No.33617855 Report

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>>33617824
Gura mogged, Q mogged.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:18:40 No.33617880 Report

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>>33617724
>Still no waiting room
20-30k

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:19:09 No.33617895 Report

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>>33617802
yes, its made up, because no one in nijien ever said this LMAO why anyone would say this kind of data

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:19:31 No.33617915 Report

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>>33617798
>China boogeyman
Obsessed. Kson went to Vshojo, You lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:19:34 No.33617916 Report

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>>33617824
Imagine if mappa animate gura.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:19:53 No.33617923 Report

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>>33617069
1m 7 hrs. TIK TOK REFLECT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:20:11 No.33617931 Report

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>>33617851
you are in the wrong thread then, faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:20:36 No.33617944 Report

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>>33617668
Any new developments in the drama?

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:21:33 No.33617985 Report

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>>33617915

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:21:38 No.33617989 Report

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>>33617728
Niji is making money? I know their financial statements showed they were supposedly making more money than cover but their Cashflow showed they weren't investing any of that money into projects or paying off investors from what I remember.
A company that hoards money doesn't mean it's doing good if they're not willing to re-invest that money for future/Long-term projects

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:21:39 No.33617992 Report

Quoted By: >>33620021

>>33617931
What? Because I don’t care about corpo number like you?
Go discuss that with people who care then, why reply to me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:21:56 No.33618003 Report

Quoted By: >>33618034

>>33617745
Holofest digest movie premiere, only 8k

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:22:51 No.33618028 Report

Quoted By: >>33618340

Can any ID agency replicate the success of HoloID 3D showcases?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:23:02 No.33618034 Report

Quoted By: >>33618172

>>33618003
sheesh. 30k then, 40k if Pekora tries to funnel(which I doubt will even work since its fucking gacha tourists)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:23:04 No.33618035 Report

Quoted By: >>33618112

>>33617851
I don't understand what's wrong with these people to be step all over each other to show who loves more the brand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:24:19 No.33618072 Report

Quoted By: >>33618182

>>33617728
What really ticked me off is not the Anycolor profit, but considering the idea that Cover embezzled money when the financial documents showed why Cover incurred such high expenses.
And they claim to be knowledgeable about financial documents when they did not even read it in the first place.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:24:23 No.33618074 Report

Quoted By: >>33618218

>>33617915
Shoo shoo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:24:30 No.33618080 Report

Quoted By: >>33618244 >>33618665

Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:24:59 No.33618097 Report

Quoted By: >>33618159 >>33620021

>>33617989
Don't you understand? Bigger number, good. Lower number, bad. Ignore everything else that could suffer because of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:25:14 No.33618106 Report

Quoted By:

>>33617944
Nothing new really, streamers are just cycling on the reactions of other streamers on the drama for content and numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:25:24 No.33618112 Report

Quoted By: >>33618381

>>33618035
It’s Nijisis deflecting to corpo vs corpo every time their livers lose

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:26:43 No.33618159 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618097
Like that negrito saying context is cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:26:59 No.33618172 Report

Quoted By: >>33618263

>>33618034
Pekora have at least 30k to funnel no matter how high she get

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:27:07 No.33618178 Report

Quoted By: >>33618297

Holy shit anycolor stocks will plummet tomorrow. It's on pace for 60-80% correction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:27:14 No.33618182 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618072
I wonder if that moron knows or even care which of those numbers are money that go to their livers. This is especially damning if you consider how many there are compared to hololive

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:27:23 No.33618187 Report

Quoted By: >>33618293

Discussing how much money is invested back to their workforce, to lengthen their service life, is cope and does not belong in the numbers thread, they say.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:28:26 No.33618218 Report

Quoted By: >>33618354 >>33618382 >>33618426

>>33617985
>>33618074
>lose Coco, she goes to Vshojo and now you call her a traitor whore
>impotently sperg at Niji for not fucking up and losing the China market like holo
Holobros I don't feel so good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:28:51 No.33618235 Report

Quoted By: >>33619101

Take care of your liver. Don't drink too much alcohol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:29:11 No.33618244 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618080
And they made more this time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:29:15 No.33618247 Report

Quoted By:

>>33617419
Probably not til after next week given that Kiara is trying to quickly make an Among Us collab this or next week to get in on the hype/leech the event.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:29:27 No.33618252 Report

Quoted By:

its over holobros...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:29:48 No.33618263 Report

Quoted By: >>33618320

>>33618172
Yeah you have to factor the Main channel debuff. Also they might just speak Indo and filter it more. But who knows I want to see the frame first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:30:01 No.33618275 Report

Quoted By:

>>33617130
Baes song is a cover and Moris is an MV for one of the songs off her March album. I don’t understand how Camellia could do such a good job on the UnAlive rracks and then turn around and put out the UmiSea songs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:30:20 No.33618293 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618187
It is, Amazon is a household name and one of the biggest corpo ever not because they reinvested on their workforce. Meanwhile 80% of new businesses fail every year, alot of them are due to unwise investments into their workforce

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:30:23 No.33618297 Report

Quoted By: >>33618366 >>33618788

>>33618178
I wonder what happened on Sept 14th for them to spike

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:30:44 No.33618312 Report

Quoted By:

Did anyone get stabbed yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:30:51 No.33618320 Report

Quoted By: >>33618436

>>33618263
Risu wasted the PekoMiko funnel…

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:31:20 No.33618340 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618028
It's possible for Alterly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:31:33 No.33618354 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618218
>Not fucking up
Tell that to the Vox after making a fucking yo mama joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:31:53 No.33618366 Report

Quoted By: >>33618437

>>33618297
Was it not the annual report release?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:31:55 No.33618370 Report

Quoted By:

>>33617781

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:32:14 No.33618381 Report

Quoted By: >>33618431 >>33618478 >>33618502 >>33619161 >>33619186

>>33618112
Unironically because Anycolor > Cover in any way you try to put it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:32:14 No.33618382 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618218

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:33:29 No.33618426 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618218
>Bringing up Niji out of the blue
>Fickle CN audience leaving NijiCN
kys faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:33:35 No.33618431 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618381
Certainly not in number of chairs though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:33:44 No.33618436 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618320
Imagine if gura have that kind of funnel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:33:44 No.33618437 Report

Quoted By: >>33618576

>>33618366
Quarterly report. Annual report was months ago

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:34:10 No.33618459 Report

Quoted By: >>33618488 >>33618587

>>33617561

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:34:57 No.33618478 Report

Quoted By: >>33618611 >>33619019 >>33619254

>>33618381
watch them deflect on how nijisanji didnt help the medical bill of one of their vtuber ad if its the companies job to pay the medical bill

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:35:04 No.33618484 Report

Quoted By:

>>33617798
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:35:12 No.33618488 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618459
Azki Tsuyoi

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:35:30 No.33618495 Report

Quoted By:

>>33617069
> niji mixing
I'm not optimistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:35:43 No.33618502 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618381
Soooo is that it? Ok you win the bragging rights

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:36:47 No.33618535 Report

Quoted By: >>33618841

>Nijisanji inclining
>NijisanjiEN inclining
>Anycolor inclining
>Hololive inclining
>Hololive English reclining
>Cover corp reclining
just nuke that branch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:37:09 No.33618551 Report

Quoted By:

>>33617530
also this is a quarterly spike due to lazulight + obsudia anniversaries as well as Pomu's birthday and a bunch of off collabs all being crammed into a single quarter.
The graph will return back to normal in the next quarter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:37:54 No.33618576 Report

Quoted By: >>33619190 >>33619340

>>33618437
Wasn't that when they released the weird Niji projection graph with growth rates that would double in size by 2023?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:38:03 No.33618583 Report

Quoted By:

>>33617728
I mean, you can whine about it, or you can try to do the job yourself like picrel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:38:09 No.33618587 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618459
Hololive is too strong

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:38:29 No.33618597 Report

Quoted By:

>71k
>xqc hasn't opened lsf yet
Take notes kronii, this is what dramabuff looks like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:38:49 No.33618611 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618478
It is though, shit is even mandated in my 3rd world shithole

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:39:35 No.33618645 Report

Quoted By:

>>33617006
Another day, another Holo gold

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:40:21 No.33618665 Report

Quoted By: >>33618741

>>33618080
Good grief, now I really wonder how big these batches actually were for them to sell out that fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:40:24 No.33618668 Report

Quoted By: >>33618744

Looks like easy gura gold today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:40:36 No.33618679 Report

Quoted By:

>>33617317
yeah but that's a discussion that's not relevant here. Neither you nor l are Anycolor employees. Neither of us will see a cent of that money so it's and irrelevant discussion.
It has as much relevance as saying "Disney makes a billion dollars every day".
The reply is always, "okay, so?".

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:41:22 No.33618711 Report

Quoted By: >>33618768 >>33618835 >>33618867 >>33618900 >>33619026 >>33619100 >>33619104

Again, VSPO is overperforming hard on Splatoon 3. Two POV collab, both over 10k
Also
>WTF is Seffyna doing
(former) NijiKR almost catching up to a very 3 views Scarle

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:42:26 No.33618741 Report

Quoted By: >>33618885

>>33618665
Who know? They had more stocks than the first batch but it all sold out in all stores in 15 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:42:28 No.33618744 Report

Quoted By: >>33619286

>>33618668
If you mean the paralympics sure, but if you're referring to global gold then not, Pekker's has a FGO stream today

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:43:09 No.33618768 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618711
Oh, kronii's still streamin'

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:43:38 No.33618788 Report

Quoted By: >>33618879

>>33618297
Quarterly report that showed a (slightly deceptive but not technically incorrect) earnings per talent average', by branch, which inflated the importance of NijiEN in their earnings. The issue is that anyone who actually cared about the numbers would take a closer look and understand that
1. This was before Luxiem started to lose stream and started to recline
2. Those numbers are going to fucking drop with the addition of Iluna and how poorly they've done
I hope that whoever bought pre-spikr has already sold off their stock, anyone who bought this while it was high is gonna get stuck holding the bag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:45:10 No.33618835 Report

Quoted By: >>33620294

>>33618711
1. Hololive
2. VSPO
3. Nijisanji

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:45:18 No.33618841 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618535
>nijiEn inclining
This isnt July anymore, unless you mean inclining in total number of members.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:46:06 No.33618867 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618711
imagine if susan remove the cull on vspo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:46:20 No.33618879 Report

Quoted By: >>33618915 >>33618952 >>33619077 >>33622275

>>33618788
So they cooked their books to look good to investors and will face a sell off which most likely happened before the close off and for tomorrow considering the trend

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:46:30 No.33618885 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618741
Man, this reminds me of Donqi getting taken off guard by those dolls all over again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:46:40 No.33618892 Report

Quoted By: >>33619045

kronii is killing her average with this stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:46:49 No.33618900 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618711
VSPOEN when

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:47:18 No.33618915 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618879
Welcome to financial statement 101.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:48:16 No.33618952 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618879
Welcome to the world of publicly traded companies in the year 2022.
If you're not making yourself look the best you can, you're playing the game wrong.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:50:24 No.33619019 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618478
Does it bother you that much, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:50:30 No.33619026 Report

Quoted By: >>33619111 >>33619172

>>33618711
why is luca losing to an unpacking stream from a whore
sisters stream reps doko?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:51:03 No.33619045 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618892
Her average is 4,344...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:52:11 No.33619077 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618879
Nothing new. All of the charts they've released have been deceptive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:52:46 No.33619100 Report

Quoted By: >>33619142 >>33620294

>>33618711
I don't understand how VSPO can get this amount of viewers yet have basically no subs in comparison. Why don't Japs sub to them?

Riku Tazumi

Riku Tazumi Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:52:47 No.33619101 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618235
But I love to be drunk with profitz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:52:55 No.33619104 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618711
>HomoStarsJP Roberu above Scarle
GO SON GO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:53:16 No.33619111 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619026
Because Luxiem reclined. Thanks, Vox!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:54:01 No.33619142 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619100
behold the VSPO Box

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:54:51 No.33619161 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618381
I mean, sure.
Doesn't change the score into anything other than 16-2-1 though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:55:12 No.33619172 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619026
NijiEN reclining...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:55:27 No.33619184 Report

Quoted By: >>33619217 >>33619231 >>33619294 >>33619897

How do we put holos in the LSF box?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:55:38 No.33619186 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618381
Thanks for the joke, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:55:49 No.33619190 Report

Quoted By: >>33619342

>>33618576
It is actually not a projection. It is reality. Which makes me wonder if the one saying NijiEN is carrying Nijisanji is an Anycolor insider.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:56:28 No.33619217 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619184
Tell Pekora to call Kai a fucking nigger and start a drama.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:56:50 No.33619231 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619184
Fuck that cancer, no no no.
If I wanted that level of garbage in vtubers, I wouldn't have abandoned watching fleshstreamers in the first place.
Much like cancer, that sort of shit hollows out the host and kills it in the long run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:57:33 No.33619254 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618478
you're not even a nijifan, why are you in this thread? do you have nothing better to do than anti posting about a Japanese corporation all day?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:57:45 No.33619263 Report

Quoted By:

VTuber drama lacking compared to the shit they're dealing in fleshtuber land

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:58:19 No.33619286 Report

Quoted By: >>33619381 >>33619491

>>33618744
There is no novelty in pekora's fgo stream anymore anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:58:29 No.33619294 Report

Quoted By: >>33619343

>>33619184
I hope not, just look at the reply to this https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/xbg8aj/ame_uses_a_korean_translator/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 06:59:59 No.33619340 Report

Quoted By: >>33620180

>>33618576
Nah. There was some confusion over Anons who didn't understand financial years for companies can start whenever they dictate, and that Anycolor's started on May as Q1 2023 ( I was one of them, I don't usually deal with fincancial docs, just numbers for other things).
Which in context, really makes the situation at NijiEN GRIM and why everyone seems so stressed out about numbers, because there's pressure from above to keep those numbers high for their next quarter. Nijifes NEEDS to be a smashing success for their stock not to take a massive hit as people are the numbers for NijiEN fall back down going from q1-q2.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:00:05 No.33619342 Report

Quoted By: >>33619476

>>33619190
Right, Japan starts the fiscal year on April. How are NijiEN carrying Niji thought? At least in Holo you could argue that they've been in stupid amounts of events, conventions, sponsored streams and even merch sales....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:00:05 No.33619343 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619294
>Clip views go to the VoD instead of 3rd parties
Such power...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:01:15 No.33619381 Report

Quoted By: >>33619417

>>33619286
Well which other chuba will be in the gold race?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:02:21 No.33619417 Report

Quoted By: >>33619559 >>33619576 >>33621285

>>33619381
Gura, Id mini concert and subaru

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:03:41 No.33619476 Report

Quoted By: >>33620140

>>33619342
I don't know. But their numbers showed that their growth is mainly from NijiEN. It may be cooked but it is what it is if we take the face value. And by the way, their fiscal year starts on May 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:04:02 No.33619491 Report

Quoted By: >>33619516 >>33619587

>>33619286
>Betting against gachafags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:04:31 No.33619516 Report

Quoted By: >>33619587

>>33619491
>replying against bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:04:40 No.33619523 Report

Quoted By: >>33619562 >>33619563

Magnus Carlsen status? Mizkif and friends status?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:05:57 No.33619559 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619417
What do you mean by Gura? She only has 16k, Duck and Pekkers are streaming at the same time, and Shuba is weak when there's overlap, Pekkers has FGO gacha, ID mini concert maybe since Pekkers might funnel to them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:06:03 No.33619562 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619523
Are they indies? Can they mog Pekora's FGO stream numbers?
Jokes aside, I am happy I have zero idea about who they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:06:06 No.33619563 Report

Quoted By: >>33619669

>>33619523
Is magnus the one who cheated in chess with an anal vibrator?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:06:20 No.33619576 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619417
ID miniconcert will be on HoloID main channel so it probably won't get that many numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:06:36 No.33619587 Report

Quoted By: >>33619640 >>33619675

>>33619491
>>33619516
Just compare the waiting room in this fgo stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:07:40 No.33619640 Report

Quoted By: >>33619697

>>33619587
>613 waiting
NGMI

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:08:17 No.33619663 Report

Quoted By: >>33619791 >>33619815 >>33619958

Unicorns eternally blown the fuck out. Ya love to see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:08:35 No.33619669 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619563
Nah that would be hans niemann, magnus is the one implying he cheated by withdrawing from tourneys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:08:48 No.33619675 Report

Quoted By: >>33619697

>>33619587
I mean let's assume that Pekora gets a 50% dropoff from yesterday. That's still 45k peak. But HoloID waiting room will be interesting to see

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:09:22 No.33619697 Report

Quoted By: >>33619839 >>33620059

>>33619640
>>33619675
That's what im saying like yesterday's waiting room is around 2k-3k at this point.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:09:57 No.33619726 Report

Quoted By: >>33619773 >>33619779 >>33619781 >>33619836 >>33619840 >>33619853 >>33622045

Holosisters, why is Luca making more money than Pekora with less than 8% of her audience?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:10:28 No.33619748 Report

Quoted By: >>33619802

she's nervous with the numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4arJr9wZF0

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:11:00 No.33619773 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619726
>5k watching
This is the same guy who got 30k just for his fucking hands huh? Suspicious as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:11:21 No.33619779 Report

Quoted By: >>33619800

>>33619726
>SC - relevant

>Usada Pekora Birthday Celebration 2022 - 1 month
Birthday Merch Complete Set 6301 $120.00 $756,120.00
Rubber Mat 5752 $32.00 $184,064.00
Acrylic Stand 1240 $28.00 $34,720.00
Notepad/Pen 2381 $12.00 $28,572.00
Plushie 2344 $48.00 $112,512.00
$1,115,988.00

Not Include Geek Jack Store .

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:11:21 No.33619781 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619726
Pekora got more through the sponsorship

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:11:36 No.33619791 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619663
I love premature celebrations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:11:59 No.33619800 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619779
money bots

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:12:04 No.33619802 Report

Quoted By: >>33619871 >>33620151

>>33619748
Because she fucking knows that the numbers yesterday was fresh tourist numbers which is ripe for taking. She was really fucking nice and took her time in part c and superchats lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:12:21 No.33619815 Report

Quoted By: >>33619941 >>33619995

>>33619663
>72 members added
Is this big or what?
Also, we should wait for weeks before we decide if unicorns leaving will have a negative impact on her career. If what they said is right, that she is not entertaining, then it means that she is under their mercy and her numbers will crater after few weeks. But if she stays being not that entertaining but still keeps her numbers despite spamming debuffs, then don't expect unicorn-friendly chuubas in EN3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:13:03 No.33619836 Report

Quoted By: >>33620108

>>33619726
>Superchat cope
Every fucking time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:13:05 No.33619839 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619697
Eh we'll see I guess. It will fascinating to see how the tourist stuff take effect.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:13:05 No.33619840 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619726
I don't see Luca's name up here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:13:16 No.33619853 Report

Quoted By: >>33620108

>>33619726
> SC cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:13:58 No.33619871 Report

Quoted By: >>33619924

>>33619802
I wonder if she can handle those tourists before PekoMoona.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:14:35 No.33619897 Report

Quoted By: >>33620028 >>33620166

>>33619184
I wanted to post about forsen reacting to gura's animation on lsf but i don't know how to clip on twitch nor do i have a reddit account.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:15:14 No.33619924 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619871
I'm guessing that's what the Fate zero watchalong shit is for. We still don't know if it's just a member shit or she got a full restream rights though so who knows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:15:48 No.33619941 Report

Quoted By: >>33620174

>>33619815
Hoping that it doesn't affect her past a few hundred viewers, giving this board any opportunity to say "I told you so" is just the start of Hololive legitimately dying

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:16:09 No.33619958 Report

Quoted By: >>33620135

>>33619663
I will enjoy her decline over the next few weeks. Get ready to be grudgposted, homobeggar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:16:58 No.33619995 Report

Quoted By: >>33620244

>>33619815
Actually if this shit make EN become better streamers and more focused to their aspiration if they have any, that's would be better for me. Because i don't really watch EN other than stream that looks interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:17:20 No.33620012 Report

Quoted By: >>33620050 >>33620080 >>33620150 >>33620159 >>33620565 >>33621565 >>33621891

hello numberfriends, is there a /#/-approved consensus about what happens to the views of a channel after consistent male collabs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:17:36 No.33620021 Report

Quoted By:

>>33617992
you replied to me first faggot. you are talking about numbers and yet you get offended when talking like business analysts do: not about employees or contractors but about the company itself, their revenue, their value.
>>33618097
I thought that was the rule of this thread but I get it only means for one side kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:17:45 No.33620028 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619897
Pretty sure it would get removed in 5 minutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:18:22 No.33620050 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620012
speaking long-term of course

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:18:32 No.33620059 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619697
You do know yesterday was a holiday right? I'm not saying she's gonna get 80k+ again but it's kinda useless comparing yesterday to today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:19:14 No.33620080 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620012
Depend on the frequency, the expectations that the vtubers set, if the male is more popular than the girl, even the company is pretty relevant

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:20:03 No.33620108 Report

Quoted By: >>33620313 >>33620596 >>33620854

>>33619836
>>33619853
How is it a cope. It's a gacha stream. Her viewers should be raining her with money. Very disappointing SC numbers from Poorkora despite the viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:20:04 No.33620109 Report

Quoted By: >>33620126

Can pegor beat xwc today?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:20:30 No.33620126 Report

Quoted By: >>33620178

>>33620109
Nah, xqc is in 91k already. Dramabuff is too strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:20:41 No.33620135 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619958
Mind explaining why people would leave her? Legitimately curious past the whole "she's collabing with Tempus every now and then" deal that would kill her audience to some 3k viewer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:20:56 No.33620140 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619476
it didnt show it though. NijiEN did grow more than Nijisanji, which imo makes sense as JP is older than nijien, so nijien has a lot more space to grow than JP. But overall JP still is a lot larger. Where NijiEN is above JP is how they have more revenue per vtber, but thats mainly because JP has 112 vtubers while EN has 26.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:21:08 No.33620150 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620012
Not enough data to draw a meaningful conclusion. I'd like to do it with NijiEN numbers, but the sheer amount of collabs and the very different culture make it impossible to determine anything of note except that Nina got fucking pumped and dumped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:21:10 No.33620151 Report

Quoted By: >>33621328

>>33619802
Peko should be able to turn a fairly good number of those tourist into semi regular viewers at least. As someone who doesn't oshi her but still semi regularly follows her despite having no understanding of nip, she's just a really entertaining streamer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:21:21 No.33620159 Report

Quoted By: >>33620363

>>33620012
None.
But it seems that the dominant idea is that it will recline.
But I think the best non-shitpost opinion is on how the chuubas introduced themselves at the start. If they acted like Baelz and highlighted that they like the Stars, then the views will stay consistent. But if they pander with unicorns early on but then all of the sudden, she wants male collabs, then the views will plummet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:21:29 No.33620166 Report

Quoted By: >>33620505

>>33619897
Jesus, that is the most anemic, lifeless clip I've ever had the displeasure of viewing.
What is this guys CCV? https://youtu.be/0YN28D6hk5s I honestly don't think he even processed he watched a video.
This is also why I'm personally against react content, this is the inevitable destination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:21:49 No.33620174 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619941
HoloEN* or Hololive EN* FTFY

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:21:52 No.33620178 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620126
Fuck it was at 84k last time I checked

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:21:57 No.33620180 Report

Quoted By: >>33620693

>>33619340
>Which in context, really makes the situation at NijiEN GRIM and why everyone seems so stressed out about numbers
>everyone
>just the usual numberfags
funny how the everyone ignores like 15 or so vtubers in the branch. Always.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:23:09 No.33620232 Report

Quoted By: >>33620372

I am getting sick of Peko lewd bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:23:19 No.33620244 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619995
I don't even think unicorns or w/e is relevant in this topic, this lame drama just gives people a fresh new start about Kronii, not blind by the act she paved for over a year. If she's good, the box will still support her, if not, her viewers will turn to other girls that are more entertaining even if the girls they watch prefer Stars collab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:23:30 No.33620252 Report

Quoted By: >>33620311

You know, the male debuff debate has been looping so much. I'm surprised no one have made a pascal's wager chart about it yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:23:36 No.33620254 Report

Quoted By: >>33620409 >>33620571 >>33621656

Pekora needs to START DRAMA RIGHT NOW. She needs to beat XQC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:24:38 No.33620294 Report

Quoted By: >>33620495

>>33618835
Yes. Exactly. Vspo on average are stronger than your average jp niji now.
>>33619100
They have shorter history. Hololive and Nijisanji have been gathering subs for a longer time, and new holo members immediately benefit from that as well.
Also, Marine and Pekora have 2M subs, but it's not like 2M people actually regularly watch them. The active viewership is much smaller. Vspo have relatively big active viewership compared to total number of subs and they have grown a lot this year. Their recent subs growth is really good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:24:52 No.33620304 Report

Quoted By:

>Miko Raped me(the truth), Announcement stream, Taking a break, My monkey died.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:25:05 No.33620311 Report

Quoted By: >>33620461

>>33620252
even if you do make it, anon, i'm betting 95% of the anons here won't get the reference and dismiss it as a weirdo graphic with cope logic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:25:07 No.33620313 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620108
>Her viewers should be raining her with money
>Viewers are mostly tourists

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:26:46 No.33620363 Report

Quoted By: >>33620723

>>33620159
Nina is a relevant exemple, as this other anon pointed out
Also, Ollie to an extent,

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:26:55 No.33620372 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620232
Post monkey lewd then

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:27:53 No.33620399 Report

Quoted By: >>33620973

VSPO is absolutely meticulous and slow in hiring new talents. They should ACCELERATE like everybody else

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:28:11 No.33620409 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620254
Mori has been lying to hololive members and asking them for money to fuel her lean habit, Kiara groped Gura during the offcollab and Ame and Ina told her to keep quiet about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:28:27 No.33620414 Report

Quoted By: >>33620491 >>33620865 >>33620929 >>33621091

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA KOONE GOTALU BONDING MEIN KOKORO KLOPFT SCHNELL
youtube.com/watch?v=_UWZSntVA_c

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:29:41 No.33620461 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620311
Here I made it with 5 hour paint for catalog shitposting purposes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:30:27 No.33620491 Report

Quoted By: >>33620525

>>33620414
kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:30:33 No.33620495 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620294
call me when vspo can reach 300k, 200k and 100k streams. They don't have even 3D and needed to be bought by brave group to be able to have something.
the dumb rivality you guys try to make for nijisanji and vspo while you guys only mention vspo when it is to shit on nijisnaji is hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:30:48 No.33620505 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620166
>reaction stream
>doesn't react
>chat non stop sperg out and spam
i hate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:31:21 No.33620525 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620491
I will if you go first

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:31:26 No.33620530 Report

Quoted By: >>33620726 >>33620743

https://twitter.com/ourokronii/status/1572124790814830594

What the FUCK is her problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:32:28 No.33620565 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620012
Small data set:
Mori- collab with males her whole career
Bae-Collab with males her whole career
Ame-been a few days
Kronii-streamed like twice since her first collab?
Mumei-No effect
ID in general-no discernable effect, audience has no expectation for them not to
Elira-flat
Pomu-huge incline
Finana-decline
Obsydia-mild incline
Ethyria(minus Reimu)-incline
Reimu-sharp incline then crash

Extremely inconclusive but in general other factors vastly outweigh any effect from "male collabs".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:32:36 No.33620571 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620254
Please don’t ask that, we asked her for big number and she threw 96k at our face
And now you want her to actually pull what she is best at back in NND day?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:33:09 No.33620596 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620108
>gacha stream
IIRC she only pulled the free tutorial gacha

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:35:44 No.33620693 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620180
I forgot who but Aia or Scarle was stressed out on their bad numbers. But it it will just happen even if they are not under NijiEN. But still.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:36:15 No.33620723 Report

Quoted By: >>33621402

>>33620363
Nina also completely changed her content, did a bunch of offcollabs, got stuck in Australia for an entire month without streaming, and started streaming a lot less when she got back. And in the end, she still has better numbers than she started out with at debut. Same with Ollie, she was collabing with males from the very start, all through the period when she was popular, and her decline isn't really related to that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:36:17 No.33620726 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620530
Ruined

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:36:34 No.33620743 Report

Quoted By: >>33621236

>>33620530
Damn, Kronii seems a lot more outgoing and happy since she made her statement. This is going to be a good move for her. She might lose some of her more schizo fans but she is going to pick up a lot more. Happy for her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:37:22 No.33620771 Report

Quoted By:

It's been six fucking months since Kizuna Ai soft-graduated.
Where the FUCK is the orchestral version of Hello, Morning you fucking black company fucks!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:39:12 No.33620829 Report

Quoted By: >>33620875 >>33620967

We have an Ai schizo now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:39:52 No.33620854 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620108
you don't even get what you're pushing do you?
here, last (you), go back to lurking

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:40:23 No.33620865 Report

Quoted By: >>33621163

>>33620414
my wife gotalu socializing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:40:45 No.33620875 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620829
To be fair anon, before Niji and Holo blew up in the old days. Ai corp was the big boogeyman in vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:42:37 No.33620929 Report

Quoted By: >>33620988

>>33620414
deutschchama...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:44:12 No.33620967 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620829
I JUST WANT THAT SONG OKAY!? It's pretty good, the original is too EDM for my boomer ears

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:44:32 No.33620973 Report

Quoted By: >>33621019

>>33620399
They did accelerate on poaching and smuggling Nijilivers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:44:50 No.33620988 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thJgU9jkdU4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:45:56 No.33621019 Report

Quoted By: >>33621247

>>33620973
>poaching
That's a very nice way of saying "talent left because they were unsatisfied and went to a better company"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:46:08 No.33621022 Report

Quoted By:

Since Hololive already won this month, can Nijisanji offset the loss to make it less embarassing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:47:20 No.33621054 Report

Quoted By:

Anon-tachi, which company numbers are more interesting to discuss? Net profit or operating expenses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:48:39 No.33621091 Report

Quoted By: >>33621135

>>33620414
why are germs so fucking cringe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:50:28 No.33621135 Report

Quoted By: >>33621343

>>33621091
You must be looking at a mirror

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:51:33 No.33621163 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2optmx0Q4C4

Good
Now go watch her in 1 hr

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:53:22 No.33621201 Report

Quoted By:

https://twitter.com/yasu00kamiki/status/1572117795336491010

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:54:20 No.33621236 Report

Quoted By: >>33621295 >>33621360 >>33621380 >>33621785 >>33621942 >>33622125 >>33622243

>>33620743
If I'm being honest, I don't think it's even about the collabs or even males at this point. Kronii always seemed scared of her own fanbase because she didn't know how to act towards them. I started getting weird vibes from her back when she was playing MegaMan and she invented the whole green-light red-light as her way of dealing with backseating after closing off her own chat to members only in the previous steam because things just got too out of hand. (Plus there was the whole RM stuff I heard about on how her fans were calling her out on something she did or something)
It's 3am and I'm pretty sure I'm rambling, but I get the feeling that her week break wasn't really just because of the drama, but to make a decision on what she herself wanted do, and not because of what she thought her viewers wanted her to do. Because Kronii had every opportunity during her break to never address Tempus again and just post a normal schedule after she came back without the need for Tempus to be included, and people wouldn't have called her out on it either.

Tldr: there's a good chance Kronii is just trying to prove to herself that she's the one that's in control of her own decisions, and she does them as a way to enjoy streaming more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:54:31 No.33621247 Report

Quoted By: >>33621286 >>33621299 >>33621358

>>33621019
The most profitable vtuber company is Anycolor. It means Anycolor is superior.
Are you implying that Nijisanji is more inferior than VSPO?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:54:45 No.33621256 Report

Quoted By: >>33621334 >>33621346 >>33621405

I know kiara won't collab with tempus but i wonder if majority of kfps are okay with them. I always see kfp usernames presence in chat ranging from nijien to holojp, holoid and even starsjp and tempus now. Would be pretty funny if kiara is unaware of kfps being okay with collabs with males.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:55:05 No.33621266 Report

Quoted By: >>33621747

better luck with wave 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:56:04 No.33621285 Report

Quoted By:

>>33619417
ID only collabs will be mostly in indog language, actually hard filtered me when ID1 debuted.

I'll bet on Pegors for today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:56:06 No.33621286 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621247
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:56:31 No.33621295 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621236
Now the ball is in the other side's court
Will they take the hint, or will they try to turn her into depressronii again to give them a sense of "Control"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:56:42 No.33621299 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621247
I'm not sure how you got all that from the previous statement but it seems you already know the answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:56:56 No.33621304 Report

Quoted By:

ID1 Mini 3D will be 2 hours after pekora fgo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY0HSWOqV0s

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:57:53 No.33621328 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620151
Entertaining is subjective, but you have to admit she is quite skilled when it come to number. Not a single number were wasted on that FGO stream
>Nousagi ready to give free membership to tourist at all time
>She spend half of part C courting the tourist, showing them that she isn’t a poser to keep their interested
>Pinned message advertising her future watchalong (combined with nousagi giving tourist free membership)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:58:14 No.33621334 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621256
Most would probably be fine but when you're in Kiara's position even losing 10% of your fans is scary. Also she's just too parasocial and gets broken up by seeing individual people that have watched her for a long time disappear, even if it's statistically insignificant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:58:26 No.33621343 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621135
kys germ

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:58:34 No.33621346 Report

Quoted By: >>33621665

>>33621256
>Would be pretty funny if kiara is unaware of kfps being okay with collabs with males.
Didn't she asked them and they said yes ? She seems perfectly aware, she just doesn't want to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:59:02 No.33621358 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621247
Yeah but sadly the same cannot be said about most of their livers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:59:09 No.33621360 Report

Quoted By: >>33621409 >>33621518 >>33621591 >>33621649 >>33621712 >>33621904

>>33621236
Vtubers are nothing without us viewers. We basically pay for their livelihood. If they want to go against us, we can easily ruin their lives.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 07:59:44 No.33621380 Report

Quoted By: >>33621449 >>33621483

>>33621236
>and she invented the whole green-light red-light as her way of dealing with backseating
you mean the thing Korone has been doing for over a year?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeD-lKDv87I
honestly maybe Kronii should take more pointers from Korone than from her EN senpais when it comes to fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:00:01 No.33621388 Report

Quoted By:

https://youtu.be/3D6YvX_w-C0
Gold

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:00:29 No.33621402 Report

Quoted By: >>33621609 >>33621617 >>33621685 >>33621754 >>33621791 >>33621887 >>33622036 >>33622282

>>33620723
>Same with Ollie, she was collabing with males from the very start, all through the period when she was popular, and her decline isn't really related to that.
It absolutely is, not because she collab with men but because she went against the tide of what the “HoloBox” expects from their streamers and got swept.
Ollie might be one of the few ID that didn’t benefit significantly from ID3 debuts and Holofes.

The way Holos work is simple: there are some 120k people on the JP daily audience that have their preferences but which sometimes check the other girl streams as well, if they catch their attention.
Take Anya: she caught the attention of the JP crowd and she’ll be getting numbers above her reach for as long as she continues doing activities that interest them. That’s the way minor Holos grow.

Ollie tried the hard way around, go create a whole audience of non Holo and mostly non vtuber watchers. She leaned on the anituber crowd, “nu chess” crowd and for as long as she was their new toy, it seemed to work
>until they moved to the new toy in town, Ironmouse
and she was left without her out of the box and without the inside the box audience.
It was definitely related to her choice of collabs, with the only difference being that it was not the fact there were boys, but that there were no Holo girls.
It happened to Matsuri as well, and go Towa too until StartEND gave her just enough momentum and clout to be fully inducted to the “FPS box”.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:00:36 No.33621405 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621256
Oh she is aware
She actually is not in the mood to collab with males right now
>But the numbers
If collabing with Pekora did not boost her then nothing will
>But she will be isolated
She already kind of is due to her Timezone
....rumao Cover could do not even care to at least hire a yuro homo so they could at least force her to collab the males.
>But Vesper
The "early" zatsus are just now once in a while

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:00:38 No.33621406 Report

Quoted By: >>33621438

why are people mentioning about anycolor's profit now? i thought we already dicussed that like a week ago?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:00:41 No.33621409 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621360
T. Never superd, membered or brought merch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:01:44 No.33621438 Report

Quoted By: >>33621540

>>33621406
They only have that over Hololive atm so let them have it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:01:57 No.33621449 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621380
Didn’t Korne take a month off because someone tweeted something mean at her?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:03:02 No.33621483 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621380
well korone's problem with her chat are fundamentally different than kronii's so you can't really compare them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:04:18 No.33621518 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621360
>We

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:04:41 No.33621532 Report

Quoted By: >>33621573

I could not care less about Kronii drama as long as she won’t drag others with her

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:05:05 No.33621538 Report

Quoted By: >>33621575 >>33621622 >>33621779 >>33622583

OH NO OH NO OH NO
BUSHIROAD BROS???
I THOUGHT BUSHIROAD WAS ONLY SPONSORING HOLOLIVE???

RIKU I KNEEL!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:05:07 No.33621540 Report

Quoted By: >>33621582 >>33621628 >>33621883

>>33621438
Didn't Cover also reinvest a bunch in technology and benefits to employees and Holo members? Thta's why their profit is less than Anykara's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:05:45 No.33621565 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620012
There’s no consensus and too many confounding factors. For instance if Kronii declines it could be males or itt could be her insistence on playing dogshit indie kusoges she’s already beaten.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:06:08 No.33621573 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621532
Anon, nobody is talking about that drama anymore since it got buried by the bigger Twitch drama.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:06:14 No.33621575 Report

Quoted By: >>33621596

>>33621538
>The card game version
Anon, I ...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:06:21 No.33621582 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621540
Well I have no energy left to argue so I would rather let them have that one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:06:47 No.33621591 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621360
>us

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:06:55 No.33621596 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621575
Hence why I said Bushiroad and not Cygames faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:06:57 No.33621599 Report

Quoted By: >>33621654

33621538 (Le You)
>Bushiroad
>Copyright Cygames

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:07:23 No.33621609 Report

Quoted By: >>33621786 >>33621795

>>33621402
So it has nothing to do with male collabs then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:07:34 No.33621617 Report

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>>33621402
Interesting. Any take on Kobo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:07:38 No.33621618 Report

Quoted By: >>33621637 >>33621889

I hope Twitch dies already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:07:45 No.33621622 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621538
Bro it’s the card game, it cannot get shittier than that
Meanwhile Bushiroad sponsor Hololive concert
Also obligatory “SHILL MACHINE OF NIJI”

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:07:56 No.33621628 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621540
Yes but it won't show up as profits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:08:18 No.33621637 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621618
Youtube is already doing that with the poaching shit. They just need to fix the discoverability of streamers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:08:41 No.33621649 Report

Quoted By: >>33621763

>>33621360
Sounds about right, viewers are what customers to a store are, their income.
Of course that doesn't mean the store is going to comply to customers when they're clearly in the wrong (aka Karens), otherwise they'd just take advantage of them and ruin the business not only for them but for everyone involved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:08:43 No.33621654 Report

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>>33621599
Bushiroad handles the Physical Shadowverse TCG faggot chama...

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:08:45 No.33621656 Report

Quoted By: >>33621700 >>33621962 >>33621994

>>33620254
Hasan getting dragged live on tv in front of 95k viewers
Has xqc just been seething about reddit reactions for 2 hours

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:09:04 No.33621665 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621346
It was mixed, there were some who said no and some.who said doesn't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:09:38 No.33621685 Report

Quoted By: >>33621766 >>33621858 >>33621991

>>33621402
imo, male collabs can be mitigate by
>keep delivering good solo and girl-only contents
>keep engaging with the audience
>not making a big deal out of it
Male collab could only hurt them if they focus on it too much -- ignoring your own audience and alienating holobox

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:10:12 No.33621700 Report

Quoted By: >>33621755 >>33621931

>>33621656
Is it possible all these people could be gotten rid of at once via whatever this drama is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:10:36 No.33621712 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621360
Stores and businesses refuse to do business with assholes all the time. Their money isn't worth it. You are no different and you won't be missed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:11:42 No.33621747 Report

Quoted By: >>33621797 >>33621888

>>33621266
What in the living fuck is this "Hopcon" shit that multiple Nijikeks put in the title of their streams? Is it some Nijikek inside joke? Does it mean Hopping on cock?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:12:08 No.33621754 Report

Quoted By: >>33621970

>>33621402
so Ollie as a venture opportunity was likely a worthwhile gamble had IM not existed to vacuum up that crowd, at least as far as the business side is concerned (according to your analysis)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:12:12 No.33621755 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621700
Absolutely not, unless if they are actually killed or literally cancelled for something iredeemable. They'll stick around like a common reoccuring characters in a cartoon show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:12:21 No.33621763 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621649
>we
>ruin lives
ogey karen, you need your meds now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:12:28 No.33621766 Report

Quoted By: >>33621799

>>33621685
kronii should collab immediately with gura after every male collab to wash the filth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:12:50 No.33621779 Report

Quoted By: >>33622098

>>33621538
>They get stuck with a massively reclining failed chuuba
Poor Bushiroad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:13:00 No.33621785 Report

Quoted By: >>33621827 >>33622006

>>33621236.
More like she took a break to determine if she will choose to be herself or to pretend for her fans. The westernized way (and also the mentally healthy way) of handling it is just to be herself. I think I said it here before but what she chose is the correct choice. She may lose extra money but she does not need to pretend to her fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:13:03 No.33621786 Report

Quoted By: >>33621954

>>33621609
Not specifically.
More specifically, it has to do with 'this is the sort of thing the audience(holobox) expects, and you chose to not give it to them so they don't watch you. Ollie wanted to break what she perceived were constraints of expectations of what it means to be a Holomem. Okay, fine, then the wider audience will just go watch someone who DOES, and they did when Council dropped. Contrast this with Bae, who while she is okay with collabing with males(specifically the stars) she also stuck to collabing with other Hololive members.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:13:10 No.33621791 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621402
Very good take

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:13:22 No.33621795 Report

Quoted By: >>33622005

>>33621609
Not specifically for the fact they’re male, no, but for the fact they’re not the Holobox girls.
Kaela is arguably the best example of the opposite of what Ollie did: she took EVERY chance to be noticed by the box girls and got her big break when the girls (and the clippers) noticed her Elytra collection (a metonymy for her massive grind) and she went from the absolute runt (and least noticed) of her gen to, at very least, the same level of the other girls.

Funny thing about Kaela is that she’s positioning to be just
>September 2021 Kronii gone right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:13:29 No.33621797 Report

Quoted By: >>33621874

>>33621747
It's an inside joke. It means open vc where anyone can hop on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:13:31 No.33621799 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621766
not a bad strat desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:14:28 No.33621827 Report

Quoted By: >>33621892

>>33621785
<1% of her fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:15:37 No.33621858 Report

Quoted By: >>33621908 >>33621965 >>33622018

>>33621685
>male collabs can be mitigate by
You made it sounds like male collabs is a dangerous thing that could very well send someone into dead spiral if not handled well
What are the benefit of male collabs to warrant taking this risk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:16:06 No.33621874 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621797
HOPCON DEEZNUTS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:16:22 No.33621883 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621540
They did, but Nijifags just come into these threads to shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:16:29 No.33621887 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621402
so.. debuffing yourself actually bad idea?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:16:29 No.33621888 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621747
It's a like a meme or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:16:30 No.33621889 Report

Quoted By: >>33621977 >>33622099

>>33621618
I think it’s kind of funny because today really felt like one of those moments where you saw a giant flub in Youtube’s live viewer tracking system they got there, and how fucked it must be to some creators. Lemme just explain a moment why:

During the drama today, there was no one covering it but Destiny, who streams on youtube. Despite having almost the entirety of LSF to himself, with thousands of clips rolling in, being in the know of what happened, guiding everyone around, his live viewership went up from 10 to 26k over like a 2 hour period. Mind you, 80k people were on LSF tuned into this drama.

MEANWHILE, on twitch, one of the accused (Maya) turned her stream on to give a short statement, and had 26-30k ccv within 15 minutes. Then later on, Hasan’s ccv went up from 35k ish to 50k in almost an instant when he was covering the drama. But on youtube’s side, Destiny was finally finishing up his stream. The problem though is that he was actively done with the whole ordeal for a good 10-15 minutes, and yet he was still holding 21-22k people before ending. He was losing people by the hundreds when he was exiting out of it all, but on twitch’s end people are getting spikes of 10-20k like NOTHING.

I truly wonder if there’s an issue with adblock or something, because more and more I’m getting convinced of some bullshittery with the system

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:16:35 No.33621891 Report

Quoted By:

>>33620012
For JP side, we have already seen the effect on nijiJP most prominently ex gamers. With constant collabs between male and female vtubers, the ccv of the female vtubers will decrease over time while the ccv of male vtubers will increase over time. For foreign branch we have yet to see the effect. With Kobo and Altare collabing constant and Kronii joining the fray with Vesper, we can see the result over the next few months to have a conclusion of things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:16:38 No.33621892 Report

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>>33621827
Well, that 1% are the people who pay the most. Not against Kronii here, she can do whatever she wants, but there is a tradeoff between earnings and freedom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:17:09 No.33621904 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621360
Than prove it by taking your money and going elsewhere? If the service no longer caters to you than your free to leave. If they crash and burn than your right but if they do fine without you than you were never the intended customer to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:17:13 No.33621908 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621858
...to own the haters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:17:33 No.33621916 Report

Quoted By: >>33621947 >>33622015 >>33622051

Ey bros. Any contender for gold aside from Pekora's FGO and ID Stream?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:17:53 No.33621931 Report

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>>33621700
Twitch lives off this sort of thing. It would be an amazing outcome though and a huge disruption to the streaming sphere on that platform. It'd be incredible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:18:11 No.33621942 Report

Quoted By: >>33622020

>>33621236
>she invented the whole green-light red-light as her way of dealing with backseating
Clearly you never watched Korone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:18:19 No.33621947 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621916
Salo-I’m sorry couldn’t help myself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:18:25 No.33621954 Report

Quoted By: >>33622160

>>33621786
Ollie collabed with hololive members all the time and they all love her, Gura even has Olivia in her animation, you don't watch Ollie just admit it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:18:40 No.33621962 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621656
BASED xQc

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:18:43 No.33621965 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621858
The males might have similar interests.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:18:48 No.33621970 Report

Quoted By: >>33622106

>>33621754
It was not a worthwhile gamble IMO. The anituber community, by virtue of being seasonal by their very nature, will NEVER stick long enough to anything.
Notice I’m not talking about the anime community (latching on to Evangelion some 20 years down the line) or the web community (same, 2hu) but specifically the western ironic “drip wearing” crowd that Ollie tried to court.
They dumped her exactly like they would dump the seasonal isekai anime waifu, she never had a chance

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:19:07 No.33621977 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621889
Yeah you need more data in that case since Ludwig can get higher numbers with his events. And destiny is getting the Ice Poseidon treatment(aka twitch shadowban). The only reason destiny even got that 10k+ earlier was due to xqc's juicers hopping on his chat since they got bored waiting for his stream. It would be interesting to see asmongold stream in youtube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:19:30 No.33621991 Report

Quoted By: >>33622141

>>33621685
towa is fucking excellent at that, not to mention she never antagonize her fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:19:36 No.33621994 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621656
Forsenbajs are loud despite having a reclining swedish hobo as their oshi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:19:50 No.33622005 Report

Quoted By: >>33622067

>>33621795
And of course she'll still always be less popular than Kronii. ID really is a very difficult debuff to overcome. Even their superstar Kobo is only as strong as uh...Fauna? Okayu?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:19:56 No.33622006 Report

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>>33621785
Her being a mini, depression fueled Sana was her biggest problem. It's a good trade-off if it actually improves her mood and she streams more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:20:08 No.33622015 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621916
There's that one outfit reveal in VSPO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:20:12 No.33622018 Report

Quoted By: >>33622092

>>33621858
>You like one of the male talents and think there will be synergy/good content
>You want to box push new company members out of loyalty to HoloPro
>You want to own your annoying controlling unicorns
>You don't like "idol culture" and want to try to change it
Which I think summarizes a lot of the reasons we've seen from ENs who have done it so far

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:20:15 No.33622020 Report

Quoted By: >>33622339

>>33621942
Korone pretends to be a character, panders to her fans unhealthily and is mentally ill, that's the point. Kronii doesn't need to do that now because she realized it's better to stream for herself and is happier for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:20:38 No.33622036 Report

Quoted By: >>33622135 >>33622150 >>33622184 >>33622220

>>33621402
Towa is one of the biggest success stories in Holo, I think. It took a long time and also came with a lot of bumps in the road but she was able to get her cake AND eat it too. She can now regularly Collab outside of Holo (regardless of gender) with minimal backlash while still being connected to the HoloBox. 2 years ago, her getting 1 mil subs or even touching 100k CCV would've been unimaginable. I don't know how the fuck she did it (not a kenzoku so don't really keep up with her regularly), but future holos might want to study how she did it if they want to be able to Collab outside the box without getting disconnected from it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:20:50 No.33622045 Report

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>>33619726
Retard pekora recieved 475 gifted subs that stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:21:00 No.33622051 Report

Quoted By: >>33622073 >>33622264

>>33621916
pekora's playing fgo again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:21:26 No.33622067 Report

Quoted By: >>33622084 >>33622159

>>33622005
>can get 40k polls off a 5k CCV stream
Kobo is Gura tier, she's just culled even harder than Gura is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:21:39 No.33622073 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622051
Better milk the tourist fast, until the end of perms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:22:13 No.33622084 Report

Quoted By: >>33622111

>>33622067
Or she has really high viewer turnover

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:22:29 No.33622092 Report

Quoted By: >>33622214

>>33622018
>You want to box push new company members out of loyalty to HoloPro
This is what annoys me the most. It's not gonna work. Holostars really need to make the box on their own, hololive audience as a whole won't watch them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:22:40 No.33622098 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621779
Don't look at their own vtuber group
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj6ZvZqDJsrwBal-5R_q1ZQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsHILl-8i1H9316RPeTEcfQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpLvJ42sm-edPGF8pKJonOQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:22:42 No.33622099 Report

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>>33621889
That's just how youtube is. Watch an Ame stream on YT then the identical content on twitch and you'll see the difference. Almost a non-stop incline on twitch and a spastic up and down on youtube peaking usually at around 1 hour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:22:55 No.33622106 Report

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>>33621970
Kinda doesn't really help either that Ironmouse just swooped in and took people like Connor for herself. Also let's not kid ourselves Ollie herself is a giant filter just by the way she acts. Kiara has the debuff chicken voice while Ollie couldn't stop being really fucking loud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:23:03 No.33622111 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622084
i can imagine that with how indog's mind work

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:23:33 No.33622125 Report

Quoted By: >>33622162 >>33622266 >>33622318

>>33621236
Why are western content creators all have a tendency to hate the people who made them? Also why are western consumers doormat that let them walked all over by corpos and content creators? Are all westerners machoistic?
>Yasss queeen ignore me and lie to me even moarrrrr

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:24:02 No.33622135 Report

Quoted By: >>33622491

>>33622036
She went out of the box first and then eventually got back in because Cover decided to give her a lot of main channel pushes (and she decided to accept those opportunities).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:24:17 No.33622141 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621991
>not to mention she never antagonize her fans.
holy newfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:24:49 No.33622150 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622036
you're dealing with a thousands of zoomer anons and bitter late-millenials, I'm not surprised that they can't see the long-term in any of the decisions that other people make, only the instant reaction

it's basically the same phenomenon where the headline gets the eyeballs where even a retraction or editorial correction a day later will get completely ignored because a feeling has already entered the zeitgeist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:25:02 No.33622159 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622067
I mean, if you're culled, those people effectively do not exist, as YouTube is not showing them and not paying out for them. All you'll have to show for it is a higher VOD. Sucks but that's how it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:25:02 No.33622160 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621954
I'm not saying they didn't, and I used to watch her, but I found all the nonholoive collabs annoying, so I stopped watching her entirely.
Did I ever say the other Holomem didn't like her? This isn't about what other Holomem thought of her, It's a matter of AUDIENCE PERCEPTION, and Ollie built herself up as someone who would keep collabing with outsiders a ton, outsiders who viewed her as nothing more than fresh meat to be exploited and discarded when they felt she was of no use to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:25:03 No.33622162 Report

Quoted By: >>33622219

>>33622125
She doesn't owe you anything, get over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:25:49 No.33622184 Report

Quoted By: >>33622207 >>33622342

>>33622036
Milked big names until the box was willing to watch her. Her numbers still aren't that great if she streams in primetime. Hence usually when she streams it's earlier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:26:55 No.33622207 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622184
She does get decent numbers during overlap if she's streaming APEX, she's at least built herself into the APEXbox successfully.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:27:13 No.33622214 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622092
Whatever box they have now is probably 1000x better than whatever people thought they would have when they first got announced. Aururan is sitting at 300 viewers right now for reference, thinking cover is going to hold them back and risk those numbers going back to unsalvageable numbers like they are with StarsJP is something they'd much rather avoid doing, and risking a few collabs with the EN girls is a small price to pay to ensure they can stay relevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:27:21 No.33622219 Report

Quoted By: >>33622233

>>33622162
Rent free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:27:23 No.33622220 Report

Quoted By: >>33622319

>>33622036
>I don't know how the fuck she did it
She is only successful because the rabbit likes her. Without Pekora she will still be the runt.
>fps crowd
Yeah that too. They only care about showmanship and only watch fps. It is also vulnerable to weak fps environment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:27:56 No.33622233 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622219
Keep coping unicuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:28:20 No.33622243 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621236
Her schizos are mad they won't get to groom her anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:28:48 No.33622264 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622051
Yeah finish the last half of Fuyuki

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:28:51 No.33622266 Report

Quoted By: >>33622338

>>33622125
Wow you really don't watch anyone do you? ID and JPs have to tard wrangle and assert themselves against unreasonable fans also (Botan, Kaela, Risu and Anya come to the top of my head).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:28:59 No.33622271 Report

Quoted By: >>33622298 >>33622390

Many people here hates HoloStars, yet no one dares to utter a word of hate to the creator himself, Yagoo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:29:12 No.33622275 Report

Quoted By:

>>33618879
It will go up until the 6month lock expires and unlock happens. And then bloodbath

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:29:29 No.33622282 Report

Quoted By:

>>33621402
Your last part is completely incorrect btw. Startend did jack shit for her with the fps box. It was her participation and growth in cr cups and her support of the esports scene overall which got her fully integrated. Startend was a holobox boost only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:29:49 No.33622298 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622271
I don't hate HoloStars, I just don't care about them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:30:22 No.33622318 Report

Quoted By: >>33622656

>>33622125
The viewers didn't make Kronii my dude, that kind of mentality ain't right. Kronii is an entretainer and the choice to stay and watch is entirely up to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:30:24 No.33622319 Report

Quoted By: >>33622382 >>33622389 >>33622528

>>33622220
Not really but Pekora liking anyone is a good sign because whoever can break her shell must be a literal Saint everyone love

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:30:57 No.33622338 Report

Quoted By: >>33622380 >>33622462 >>33622562

>>33622266
It is one thing to tardwrangle your fans and another to actively lying to your fans and hate them. Learn the difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:30:58 No.33622339 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622020
You keep telling yourself that sister

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:31:02 No.33622342 Report

Quoted By: >>33622371

>>33622184
To be fair, primetime is Pekora and 1st army time and regardless of the strides she's made, torre doesn't have what it takes to be a 1st army Holo. But she's solidly mid to high mid tier nowadays which is a far cry from where she was tracking post yab. (rbc tier).

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:31:48 No.33622362 Report

Quoted By: >>33622424 >>33622445 >>33622460 >>33622795 >>33622815

>adblock soon dead in chromium
Will this effect the view numbers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:32:03 No.33622371 Report

Quoted By: >>33622410

>>33622342
>Towa
>Not first army
Someone post the picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:32:16 No.33622380 Report

Quoted By: >>33622436

>>33622338
no, the only difference is that you don't know enough japanese to form schizophrenic opinions about what a JP member means to you when they say something on stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:32:19 No.33622382 Report

Quoted By: >>33622498 >>33622508

>>33622319
Feel bad for Kiara that Pekora has at best just tolerated her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:32:28 No.33622389 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622319
Not exactly. She liked the purple whore too but later moved on to pinkdog because she is more reliable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:32:30 No.33622390 Report

Quoted By: >>33622663

>>33622271
Because the Star have exist for years now and rarely cause troubles for the girls
It just suddenly become this big of a deal when Star EN happen. So I think EN culture is more at fault here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:33:05 No.33622410 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622371
I'm sorry anon but Towa is now replaced with Gura.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:33:08 No.33622413 Report

Quoted By: >>33622473 >>33622507 >>33622683

Howie Mandel danced to Hololive?????? We're going mainstream boys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:33:18 No.33622424 Report

Quoted By: >>33622542

>>33622362
Will be forced to keep using Firefox to maintain Adblock usage then...
I REFUSE to go back to adblockless web browsing, fuck that noise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:33:51 No.33622436 Report

Quoted By: >>33622559

>>33622380
Afaik no JP has ever lied to their fans, apart from Towa. Towa was in the runt. She only recovered now because her current fans don't know she lied.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:34:06 No.33622445 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622362
If you use adblock you can't live without it. So they'll probably install a new browser I'd think.
I was over at an acquaintance's the other day and her laptop doesn't have adblock, the internet is 100% incredibly unusable without it. Turn it off some day if you want to see how the peasantry live, even things like news sites just spam you with huge banner ads and popups these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:34:44 No.33622460 Report

Quoted By: >>33622490

>>33622362
Firefox and Edge userbase will increase a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:34:48 No.33622462 Report

Quoted By: >>33622539 >>33622562 >>33622707 >>33622740 >>33622867

>>33622338
No I unironically think you would be this angry if you actually watched how certain JPs and IDs handle certain fans. Botan did the whole "I'll Collab with anyone I want" thing Kronii did but directly on stream and in response to Superchat sent to her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:35:10 No.33622473 Report

Quoted By: >>33622524 >>33622683

>>33622413
The fuck? That's random as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:35:42 No.33622490 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622460
anon edge based on chromium....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:35:42 No.33622491 Report

Quoted By: >>33622531

>>33622135
What? She got back in the box because she started organising big holo collabs and event like marika and among us and put on impressive 3D lives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:36:02 No.33622498 Report

Quoted By: >>33622619

>>33622382
Their personality just not compatible
Even in EN I remember she used to be hated for talking over people all the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:36:10 No.33622507 Report

Quoted By: >>33622524 >>33622540

>>33622413
Where?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:36:18 No.33622508 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622382
one thing about the rabbit is she doesn't like suck ups and fake people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:36:43 No.33622524 Report

Quoted By: >>33622570 >>33622631

>>33622507
>>33622473
https://twitter.com/AshleyWynn1207/status/1571990174564745217

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:36:58 No.33622528 Report

Quoted By: >>33622666

>>33622319
Nah, it just mean that Pekora can make good number with that person

Or do you tell me she doesn't like any of her Gen 2-1-0 senpais?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:37:05 No.33622531 Report

Quoted By: >>33622629

>>33622491
That came later. First was the concerted push by Cover to shove her back into the forefront of holowatcher minds through sponsorships and main channel appearances.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:37:14 No.33622539 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622462
What Botan did was exactly what should be done. What Kronii did was promising her viewers that she would not interact with the homos on twitter and the next thing she did was interacting with homos on twitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:37:17 No.33622540 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622507
Some Holofan show his Tiktok video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:37:20 No.33622542 Report

Quoted By: >>33622592 >>33622680

>>33622424
use brave browser

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:37:21 No.33622544 Report

Quoted By:

what went wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:37:56 No.33622559 Report

Quoted By: >>33622642

>>33622436
>no JPmem has ever changed their mind about how to approach their style of streaming, the "distance" between them and their fans, or their opinion on taking opportunities to create content with outsiders

now I'm certain you don't watch streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:38:00 No.33622562 Report

Quoted By: >>33622702

>>33622338
>>33622462

Clip rel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HdYtFDD4Hc

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:38:03 No.33622565 Report

Quoted By:

Bunch of malding groomers in this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:38:19 No.33622570 Report

Quoted By: >>33622683

>>33622524
Holy shit, it's actually real

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:38:43 No.33622583 Report

Quoted By: >>33622657

>>33621538
>get 100k+ ccv per stream (mostly bots)
>company starts selling you to every other company
>by the time the sponsorship deals are closed and the shilling starts, she's already a sub 20k
Did those companies get scammed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:38:54 No.33622592 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622542
Maybe. I'm already using Firefox but I was considering switching to Chrome for a bit, so that's definitely not happening anymore. I'll look into brave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:39:40 No.33622619 Report

Quoted By: >>33622650 >>33622765

>>33622498
is there any jp member that can stand a en member? feel like all of them hate each other

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:40:02 No.33622629 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622531
Feel free to detail these things then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:40:06 No.33622631 Report

Quoted By: >>33622683

>>33622524
AMERICA'S GOT TALENT BOX NOW BREACHED?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:40:29 No.33622642 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622559
>no JPmem has ever changed their mind about how to approach their style of streaming, the "distance" between them and their fans, or their opinion on taking opportunities to create content with outsiders
I didn't said that you fucking mongrel. They were all upfront and never lied and only do damage control once the fans are riled up. It is about honesty not what direction they want to do with their content.

Also stop twisting my words.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:40:39 No.33622650 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622619
No body cuz EN suck lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:40:49 No.33622656 Report

Quoted By: >>33622696 >>33622726

>>33622318
That bitch forced management to fix her stupidity by greenlighting all EN sluts and tempiss to popularize male female collab to the point of implicitly allowing them to gaslight anyone who don't agree with them, including holoEN girls that don't want to do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:40:56 No.33622657 Report

Quoted By: >>33622755 >>33622781

>>33622583
>10k+ is bad now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:41:10 No.33622663 Report

Quoted By: >>33622844

>>33622390
>Because the Star have exist for years now and rarely cause troubles for the girls
More like "Not existing" for years
Holo fans at large just memory holed them, due to the amount of shit the boys had to dealt with, and the girls were too small to stand up to them, so they just not interact with each other (Aside from members with actual clout in the company)

Which is why StarEN will be an interesting experiment, especially if they're able to prop up StarJP (Pipe dream, I know, but still)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:41:15 No.33622666 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622528
I know someone would think about it that way
I mean it the other way around. Pekora is known to be hard to get along with, this mean anyone she allowed into her circle are definitely a very sociable and nice person
All and all it’s just a sign

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:41:38 No.33622680 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622542
Brave based on chromium too, still don't know how this update will effect their inbuilt adblocker

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:41:40 No.33622683 Report

Quoted By: >>33622750

>>33622413
>>33622631
>>33622570
>>33622473
Sadly no, some fucker took fbk scatman cover and named it as mincraft music.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:42:01 No.33622696 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622656
What kind of mental gymnastics is this? Take meds seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:42:08 No.33622702 Report

Quoted By: >>33622790

>>33622562
See, Kronii should've just done this from the start, but because she didn't understand her own audience, wasn't even sure how she wanted to approach it, nor did she understand the issue and hence it was a mess.
Botan on the other hand, knew the SC was from a troublemaker from the getgo and tore him a new one while affirming what most of her fans already knew anyways, since it's impossible to avoid collabing with dudes if you intend to play FPS with people outside Hololive.
Once again, setting expectations and understanding your own audience are key skills that each girl needs to develop ASAP if they want to avoid future trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:42:19 No.33622707 Report

Quoted By: >>33622867

>>33622462
>Botan did the whole "I'll Collab with anyone I want" thing Kronii did but directly on stream and in response to Superchat sent to her
No she didn't, where did you get your info from, Oboretai?
This was what she talked about:
>disrespectful to the organizers
>disrespectful to the fans of BF
>doesn't want the organizers to be shit on because if they stop organizing community events then the game dies
At no point did she ever say "I do what I want", she was always professional about it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:42:53 No.33622726 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622656
Anon you need to take your meds

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:43:06 No.33622734 Report

Quoted By: >>33622763 >>33622786 >>33622791

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6YvX_w-C0
how much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:43:15 No.33622740 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622462
Botan didn't do what Kronii did.
The real issue is just how Kronii handled it. She stretched out the whole ordeal, had a weird therapy stream about it tearing apart member comments, made promises to her members that she didn't think through, made further comments on a clip channel (?!), then went on a 2 week break and THEN had management escalate it to an official notice from Cover.
All of it could have been avoided if she said "I'm going to do these collabs, just don't watch if you don't like" and then never mentioned it again. Her unicorns would get over it.
Making it this big huge ordeal has blown it far out of proportion and also is making even non-Kronies unhappy or nervous because it elevates the issue to a culture war. Now everyone feels like shit, and a bunch of tourists from Twitter get to come in and dunk on every girl's fanbase if they aren't 100% pro male collab.
Apparently she was blindsided by the issue and didn't even know this was a thing, but she should have listened to her managers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:43:31 No.33622750 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622683
Lol, atleast it's some W.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:43:45 No.33622755 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622657
When you are told that a 100k streamer will shill your product and you pay accordingly only to get a 10k streamer, yes, it's bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:44:00 No.33622763 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622734
25k

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:44:02 No.33622765 Report

Quoted By: >>33622874

>>33622619
Towa ->Mumei
Okayu, Marine -> Gura
Watame -> multiple
I mean the fact that you
Gen5-> Ina
need to ask this question just shows that you're not even a goddamn clipwatcher, just a shitstirrer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:44:32 No.33622781 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622657
If Pekora dip to 10k median, people will shit on her the same my dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:44:40 No.33622786 Report

Quoted By: >>33622821 >>33622885

>>33622734
I recall her getting 10-14k on singing streams so 30k? What's weird is this timeslot is vacant from Cover's side unless Pekola plays for more than an hour

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:44:44 No.33622790 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622702
>but because she didn't understand her own audience
No. It is not that at all. No one is comfortable to be lied to, no matter who you are. Being upfront is the only correct thing no matter who you are and who your fanbase is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:44:45 No.33622791 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622734
Highest stream in her channel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:44:49 No.33622795 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622362
Oh well, moving all bookmarks and passwords from several accounts would be a pain in the ass but I guess I have to embrace Firefox now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:45:41 No.33622815 Report

Quoted By: >>33622832

>>33622362
Is edge safe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:45:47 No.33622821 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622786
That gacha stream is totally going to be two hours minimum anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:46:22 No.33622832 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622815
Edge is based off Chromium so i'm guessing not

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:46:34 No.33622844 Report

Quoted By: >>33622883

>>33622663
Unironically this debacle is so easy to avoid
>Ask you fanbase if they want male collab
>”Yes” = Ok they are free to do it. No one complain
>”No” = Ok sorry I will not do that
Like it’s the most fucking basic thing: Give your fans what they want

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:47:21 No.33622867 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622462
see >>33622707
Well well well. So the homobeggars are the ones who never watched streams but accused other of doing so. Naruhodo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:47:34 No.33622874 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622765
the only real friendship between EN and JP is watame and irys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:47:56 No.33622883 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622844
Because every viewer has the same opinion right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Sep 2022 08:47:59 No.33622885 Report

Quoted By:

>>33622786
Oh strap in, FGO story is not short at all
Also she want to funnel to ID live

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