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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:18:47 No.34655307 View View Reply Original Report

The queen of vtubers being considerate, meanwhile the ME ME ME duo...

>Mori and Kiara: Get that A.I. shit out of here!

https://youtu.be/0iSVQ8nkKRc

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:20:34 No.34655437 Report

Quoted By: >>34655629 >>34656840

>>34655307
Fucking retard. She's saying that she doesn't understand anything and she indirectly told people to refrain from using the tag for AIshits because she doesn't wanna give a shit about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:23:23 No.34655629 Report

Quoted By: >>34656840 >>34665931

>>34655437
She never said not to use her hashtag, she said that it's hard to differentiate between the two, so if she liked some AI shit, don't set her ablaze.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:25:48 No.34655780 Report

Quoted By: >>34655838 >>34655931 >>34656264 >>34657323 >>34657425 >>34657532 >>34657846 >>34659454 >>34660358 >>34663162 >>34665444 >>34665515 >>34665980 >>34666704 >>34667155

>>34655307
why are they like this? it's free fanart, they should be grateful for the free promotion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:26:42 No.34655838 Report

Quoted By: >>34656184 >>34657526 >>34660854 >>34662212 >>34664356

>>34655780
It's not fanart. It wasn't made by a fan. And it's not art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:28:11 No.34655931 Report

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>>34655780
Because they're not indie beggars who have to settle for every shitty fanart comes their way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:30:03 No.34656045 Report

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Everything AI was a mistake, yes even her beloved Hatsune miku

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:32:25 No.34656184 Report

Quoted By: >>34656260 >>34656485

>>34655838
>t.Talentless Hack

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:33:44 No.34656260 Report

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>>34656184
The ones who make AI "art" are the talentless hacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:33:52 No.34656264 Report

Quoted By: >>34656659 >>34656769 >>34658582

>>34655780
it's not about the art, it's about the love and work the fan puts into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:37:34 No.34656485 Report

Quoted By: >>34657536

>>34656184
>Calls people talentless hacks, while you defend people that post AI generated drawings
RUMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:37:59 No.34656504 Report

Quoted By: >>34656757 >>34663764

>>34655307
I want to hear Ina's point of view first before I take any side. She's the pro regarding this situation.

Any takofag here know whether Ina commented on the topic already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:40:45 No.34656644 Report

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>>34655307
Get fucked AI nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:41:01 No.34656659 Report

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>>34656264
preach, fuck those who thinks their ai art will make them look cool. bitch your penis still small and you life has no meaning

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:42:41 No.34656757 Report

Quoted By: >>34656852 >>34657757

>>34656504
She will not like it just like any other artist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:42:54 No.34656769 Report

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>>34656264
Yeah, they routinely like art that isn't masterpiece level but has love in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:43:34 No.34656807 Report

Quoted By: >>34662586 >>34672869

You can always tell it's a.i art when everything is slightly blurry and smooth, and let's not talk about the small imperfections. You'll never translate 100% of your thoughts and feelings into art from all the art you've stolen with text prompts. Stay mad talentless hacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:44:16 No.34656840 Report

Quoted By: >>34658588

>>34655629
>>34655437
pretty based, she's not my oshi but I always respect her way of dealing with external issues, either ignore it or "lol I don't know I'm sorry don't care enough"
that's how you deal with drama and Twitter trannies
that's why she's above all the bullshit
she's not perfect by any means, but that's one of her strong points

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:44:26 No.34656852 Report

Quoted By: >>34656983

>>34656757
You could imagine an artist who takes a centaur approach, like chess guys did when chess AI started getting really good. "We can work with them."

I mean, they started getting unilaterally btfo shortly thereafter but that did happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:46:45 No.34656983 Report

Quoted By: >>34657459 >>34660822

>>34656852
No I could not imagine that scenario with Ina, since I am not a delusional schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:50:59 No.34657181 Report

Quoted By: >>34658796

it's easy to tell the difference because AI can't do hands properly, and so far the most popular sites can only imitate a few styles
there's also this ·uncanny valley" effect that anyone can recognize, and most backgrounds and objects still look too abstract.
That's because "AI" isn't real, we're not there yet, it's just an algorithm (and it's getting better but it's not perfect)
the problem is that tons of permabegs are using this software to cheat, this thing does the hard job and they just change and add small details and there are also and these sites steal images from the internet to create something new, which is completely different from using a reference
it is kind of sad because, basically, if you want to make "art" these days well, just learn how to use photoshop and you're done
learning how to draw is going to be a thing of the past

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:54:28 No.34657323 Report

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>>34655780
Because they don't want the fan works made by actual human artists to be buried under an avalanche of AI-generated art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:56:50 No.34657425 Report

Quoted By: >>34657710

>>34655780
Not when these AI art pieces use many different other art pieces from many other non-related artists to make the "art" in the first place. It's a legal nightmare in the making.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:57:29 No.34657459 Report

Quoted By: >>34657945

>>34656983
Ina's drawing elo is around 2750, a superGM. Wait for another year, AI art would be unbeatable 4000 elo kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:58:57 No.34657526 Report

Quoted By: >>34657623 >>34660364

>>34655838
>uninspired, shitty sameface anime drawing
VS
>amazing feat of human ingenuity that just keeps getting better

I wonder which one can be considered "art"..

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:59:05 No.34657532 Report

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>>34655780
>Reeee why do they not want want fanart made by actual fans to be buried between AI generated images?
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:59:13 No.34657536 Report

Quoted By: >>34657738 >>34659582

>>34656485
>while you defend people that post AI generated drawings
Malding so hard, you're making up your own narrative off two words. Yep, your talentless

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:59:32 No.34657552 Report

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>>34655307
i'm with that guy, why hasn't she made a new alarm sound? how do you defend yourself from that one, GWEH?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:00:55 No.34657623 Report

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>>34657526
>Image generator shills believe this
Go shit in a river pajeet

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:02:53 No.34657710 Report

Quoted By: >>34659044

>>34657425
Professional art is already a quagmire of hacks ripping each other off and tracing over shit, and for the most part everyone decided they don't care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:03:30 No.34657738 Report

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>>34657536
>No you cannot say that it is generating drawings based on prompts fed tp it, even though it is what is happening
Seethe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:03:47 No.34657757 Report

Quoted By: >>34657934 >>34658007 >>34672520

>>34656757
literally every artist i follow who is legitimately good doesn't give a fuck, the only people who are adamantly against it and feel threatened are thoroughly mid tier. so I have to imagine ina doesn't give a fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:05:16 No.34657846 Report

Quoted By: >>34657895 >>34659745

>>34655780
Why (You) are so eager to defend AI images when they look like shit? Do you like playing to be an artist or something?
You can do something with more soul by grabbing your mouse and scribbling in paint like a lot of the holos already do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:06:20 No.34657895 Report

Quoted By: >>34657980

>>34657846
soul is a coping mechanism

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:07:02 No.34657934 Report

Quoted By: >>34658233 >>34658424

>>34657757
Your japanese twitter artists don't comment about anything in general because they don't like drama but if you tell them a machine can do better than them you really think they're gonna be impressed or ok with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:07:12 No.34657945 Report

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>>34657459
>Totally going to happen in a year guys the creatives will be replaced just like I did at my basic factory work

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:08:03 No.34657980 Report

Quoted By: >>34658108

>>34657895
In that case why not replace your oshi with an AI that only repeats sentences that validate your opinions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:08:26 No.34658007 Report

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>>34657757
considering the holos who are expressly against it are mid-artists, i can see where you're coming from lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:08:54 No.34658029 Report

Quoted By: >>34658168 >>34658365

>>34655307
>I don't understand the technical side so don't take my word for it

This alone puts her above Calli and Kiara buying into the false meme of
>All AI art does is copy and paste existing art together

The biggest problem is public misconception of how the AIs work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:10:48 No.34658108 Report

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>>34657980
well yeah, making women redundant is the end goal for AI

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1665027042126185.png, 3MiB, 1774x1250

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:11:51 No.34658168 Report

Quoted By: >>34658365 >>34658577 >>34658640 >>34662885

>>34658029
nice cope. hope you can buy a new pair of programmer socks with your shilling

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:13:15 No.34658233 Report

Quoted By:

>>34657934
actually, yes! they will be impressed by AI art and get excited about its potential, but they're also skilled enough to notice the flaws of AI art and honestly it's still a long way before it can even replicate something close to man-made art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:16:19 No.34658365 Report

Quoted By: >>34658640

>>34658029
You know, you would be more believeable if you said that the misconception is that all AI is programmed like that, instead of denying it completely, because you are just completely proven wrong by >>34658168

Maybe next time now that ypu got fed this prompt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:17:28 No.34658424 Report

Quoted By: >>34659837

>>34657934
The Japanese are impressed with NFT

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:19:01 No.34658503 Report

Quoted By: >>34658576 >>34666404

A simple way to solve this amicably would be to just make a separate tag for AI generated art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:20:35 No.34658576 Report

Quoted By: >>34659888

>>34658503
or just add the AI tag together with their art tag so the chuubas can easily veto it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:20:35 No.34658577 Report

Quoted By:

>>34658168
OH NO NO NO talentless sister hacks!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:20:44 No.34658582 Report

Quoted By: >>34659320 >>34660186 >>34660335

>>34656264
Do you have any idea how long it takes to figure out a good prompt and cfg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:20:47 No.34658588 Report

Quoted By: >>34658797 >>34659918

>>34656840
She has a habit of ghosting her fans, but otherwise she's great at avoiding drama (on her Gura persona at least)
She's in the perfect position to make this type of neutral statement since, as she said, she's not an artist, and she can play into her dumb shork thing
Just looking at the chat (and reddit and /ggg/), her fanbase is very divided on AI art, so taking no sides is the best decision she can take

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:22:01 No.34658640 Report

Quoted By:

>>34658168
>>34658365
This shows the technology is still immature, but you can still tell looking at the pictures that none of the lines or shading are directly 'copy and pasted'.

The only difference between how human artists and AI do it is that good human artists know to pull inspiration and designs from dozens of different places at once while AI can pull too strongly from a single source.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:25:31 No.34658796 Report

Quoted By: >>34658844

>>34657181
It's easy to tell the difference *when you see it*, but the truth is it's not obvious straightaway. It's kinda like camouflage, it works, but the moment you spot it you can't unsee it. I understand now wanting to check every piece of art to see if it's genuine or AI generated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:25:32 No.34658797 Report

Quoted By: >>34663297 >>34665943

>>34658588
to add to this, Kiara and Mori expressing negative sentiments to it almost feels like borderline political grandstanding, even though AI art isn't really political in the first place. but i'm not really surprised considering how politically vocal people behind these two chuubas are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:26:32 No.34658844 Report

Quoted By:

>>34658796
not wanting*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:30:50 No.34659044 Report

Quoted By: >>34659327

>>34657710
Yeah it's not like there's a shitstorm everytime someone gets caught tracing huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:35:08 No.34659320 Report

Quoted By:

>>34658582
exactly bro that's the art and work he mean! probably

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:35:15 No.34659327 Report

Quoted By: >>34659430

>>34659044
Just like with this AI stuff, the screeching from a handful of artists means almost nothing. Otherwise people like Ilya Kuvshinov wouldn't still be getting work on actual major productions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:36:59 No.34659430 Report

Quoted By:

>>34659327
Ilya is a hack but he's never actually tried to sell stuff he's copied too closely from the source commercially, he only posted those on socials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:37:33 No.34659454 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655780
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:39:43 No.34659582 Report

Quoted By: >>34659697 >>34659752 >>34660013

>>34657536
Define AI generated drawings then and tell me what about that is considered "talent". Should be easy to explain right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:41:54 No.34659697 Report

Quoted By: >>34660339

>>34659582
>then and tell me what about that is considered "talent"
not op but if you installed stable diffusion and spent 4 hours using it you'd still end up with garbage. Using stable diffusion is a skill and finding good prompts and inpainting takes time.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO ai.png, 49KiB, 1321x175

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:42:44 No.34659745 Report

Quoted By: >>34666639

>>34657846

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:42:54 No.34659752 Report

Quoted By: >>34660339

>>34659582
>Please define something that you never mentioned
What about you off yourself instead retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:44:35 No.34659837 Report

Quoted By:

>>34658424
If all you ever got were peanuts from fanbox you'd also be impressed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:45:36 No.34659888 Report

Quoted By:

>>34658576
Maybe certain online AI art generators can force an image hash with an "AI" tag in it and anyone can reverse search to their database so people can all verify if an image was done originally or plagiarizes one of the AI generated images

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:46:22 No.34659918 Report

Quoted By:

>>34658588
>make this type of neutral statement since, as she said, she's not an artist,
like 90% of the people on this board who speak in favor or against "AI"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:48:20 No.34660013 Report

Quoted By: >>34660339

>>34659582
you say that as if it's easy to explain what's talent in drawing. it's literally just picking up an inked stick and moving your hands about

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:51:55 No.34660186 Report

Quoted By:

>>34658582
If you're so analytical then make a game using AI art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:55:16 No.34660335 Report

Quoted By:

>>34658582
I hope you're trolling

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:55:20 No.34660339 Report

Quoted By: >>34660615

>>34659697
>typing descriptive words is a skill
I've seen retardation on this board but this one takes the cake. Art takes time too but you have AIfags thinking that feeding words into a machine is a "talent".

>>34659752
What two words are you talking about then? Go on, correct me. Then define those two words.

>>34660013
And AI shit is just typing adjectives into a machine. There is no talent in typing words and clicking a button that takes no effort at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:55:52 No.34660358 Report

Quoted By: >>34660433

>>34655780
Copyright.
A lot of fanart gets used with permission in thumbnails and stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:56:00 No.34660364 Report

Quoted By: >>34667356

>>34657526
AI art is a feat of ingenuity, one that will actually draw it and not slap together shit from different pictures will be something else.
Some retard pasting a bunch of tags in it and sorting through the mess to see what looks okay is not that.
It's not like these people coded and trained it. They just pull the lever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:57:41 No.34660433 Report

Quoted By:

>>34660358
This right here and permissions is why I stopped watching hololive

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:58:11 No.34660460 Report

Quoted By: >>34660523

Based Goom. Fuck everyone, I won't be making AI art of them, ungrateful cunts. Have fun with your /beg/ art non-Chumbuds, because we will be getting the actually beautiful pieces of art. Let's post lots of AI art on her hashtag bros!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 06:59:28 No.34660523 Report

Quoted By: >>34660629

>>34660460
What motivates posters like you?
Who pays you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:00:51 No.34660598 Report

Quoted By: >>34660662 >>34661021

The worst thing about this AI shit isn't even how artists are reacting to it, it's how the faggots using it are considering themselves actual real artists for using it. Use it for your deformed down-syndrome fetish no one cares but saying it takes "talent" and effort to type words into a machine to copy existing art is embarrassing and pathetic. You can make what you want with it just don't act like you're on the level of a real anime artist by using it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:01:04 No.34660613 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
>Mori and Kiara: Get that A.I. shit out of here!
Sasuga, reddit eaters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:01:07 No.34660615 Report

Quoted By: >>34660981 >>34664950

>>34660339
>no talent in typing words
novelistchamas.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:01:31 No.34660629 Report

Quoted By: >>34661436

>>34660523
What motivated me is Kiara and Calli, and maybe Ame I don't watch her, being against AI art. I'm just supporting Gumball in her war against Myth

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:02:28 No.34660662 Report

Quoted By: >>34661075 >>34663679

>>34660598
No the worst part is artists reacting to it. Maybe instead of seething they should make better art then the AI

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:03:15 No.34660692 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
Kinda based. Still not going to watch the lazy whore of EN

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:04:20 No.34660733 Report

Quoted By:

Kiara and Mori are kinda based for telling retards who put inputs into a search query to fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:06:33 No.34660822 Report

Quoted By:

>>34656983
I didn't say 'with Ina', I was responding to your 'any other artist'. Fucking moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:06:53 No.34660840 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
Yeah no she should be harsher. This is why she feels like the community can walk all over her. Gura needs to stop being a pussy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:07:21 No.34660854 Report

Quoted By: >>34669208

>>34655838
No it’s not art, just like how drawing the same anime shit commissioned by others is not art either. You’re no different from a factory worker at an assembly line. Of course work like that can and will be replaced by machines.
Someone making true art, which is definitely not the majority of so called "fanart", will not be affected by this. This is great in fact, it filters talentless hacks who know nothing but to draw the same shit in different poses exchanging different faces and charging obscene prices. These people are not actual artists, they’re con men

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:10:21 No.34660981 Report

Quoted By:

>>34660615
I knew someone would make that comparison. There's a difference between typing adjectives to describe a picture of an existing character and developing your own character, fleshing out their personality, developing the world and environment, and working through the plot of the story. That takes actual skill and practice to convey what story you want to tell and what characters you want your audience to get attached to. "Gura sexy blue panties" takes no effort at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:10:32 No.34660987 Report

Quoted By:

>Fuck off with that shit
>I-I'm sorry if i l-like it ok?
Nice try chumcuck but I'm not kneeling to a coward

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:11:23 No.34661021 Report

Quoted By: >>34661100 >>34661169 >>34661201

>>34660598
That’s a strawman argument, no one is seriously saying that except maybe a few weirdos. Obviously it’s not art, but it feels like people are just using that as a front to shit on this in general, completely ignoring the practicality of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:12:39 No.34661075 Report

Quoted By: >>34661100 >>34661537

>>34660662
Yet people like you are seething that your machine generated deformities are not considered art. Maybe instead of seething and paying actual money for what looks like an abortion you should pick up a pencil and make better art than those artists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:13:19 No.34661100 Report

Quoted By:

>>34661075
See >>34661021

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:13:55 No.34661121 Report

Quoted By: >>34661175

Btw I visited the vtai thread and they are having a great time and bothering no one. Not sure if that's salient.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:15:16 No.34661169 Report

Quoted By: >>34661259

>>34661021
>strawman argument
>actual people in this thread getting mad that their downs syndrome pictures aren't considered hard work
>actual people getting pissed they can't post AI faggotry in the same discord channels as real art
Typical "I didn't see it myself so it didn't happen" response.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:15:23 No.34661175 Report

Quoted By: >>34661325

>>34661121
Because "artists" in here are trying to spin the narrative that people using the ai want to be considered artists so they have an easier time making them out to be the enemy when in reality they are bothering no one and just want to make their own quick porn

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:15:45 No.34661189 Report

Quoted By: >>34665817 >>34666053

>Set up a camera at a busy intersection to take 1000 pictures over the day, then pick the best ones and frame them
>Art

>Use word prompts to generate 1000 AI images and pick the best one and share it
>Not art

???

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:15:59 No.34661201 Report

Quoted By: >>34661363 >>34661408

>>34661021
Then let the practicalities speak for itself, it can iterate designs, serve as inspiration, generate templates/textures. Why defend some code from salty nobodies online?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:16:01 No.34661204 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
What Gura said is that she can't tell the difference and to not cancel her if she gets it wrong, she's essentially saying the same thing, that she doesn't approve of it and if she likes it it's by mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:17:15 No.34661259 Report

Quoted By:

>>34661169
If some faggot claims that this is art by themselves they are retarded.
If you claim that your anime sameface commission is art then you’re also retarded.
In the end scam artists with no talent want to bring this down because they know they can’t make actual art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:18:56 No.34661325 Report

Quoted By:

>>34661175
Yeah they mostly just want to make waist up images of their favorites with big or bigger boobs. It's skub.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:19:49 No.34661363 Report

Quoted By: >>34661469

>>34661201
>it can iterate designs, serve as inspiration, generate templates/textures
Yeah sure why not
>Why defend some code from salty nobodies online?
I’m defending the practicality of it in general, it has absolutely zero to do with art and that’s not the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:21:04 No.34661408 Report

Quoted By: >>34661469 >>34661536

>>34661201
It's a problem when artists rally together against the AI boogeyman and make stupid moves around it that hinder the growth of both communities, like remove their art from danbooru or shame anyone experimenting with the field legitimately

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:21:58 No.34661436 Report

Quoted By: >>34661552 >>34662923

>>34660629
>Gura thinks AI art isn't worth a like and preventively make excuses if it happens
>Thinks she is on the opposite side from Moro Kiara and Ame
Retard. Soon AI art will be banned from all vtuber art tags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:22:55 No.34661469 Report

Quoted By:

>>34661363
>>34661408
People will eventually take the path of least resistance, if AI art helps it will simply help, defending it so fervently does nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:23:03 No.34661477 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
The difference between those who consider themselves just normal streamers and those who think of themselves as big-name celebrities

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:24:41 No.34661536 Report

Quoted By: >>34661671 >>34661703

>>34661408
You really shouldn't be using their art without their permission for the AI. This technology could be used for genuinely helpful things like pattern recognition in genes to help fight cancer or something. If it's genuinely useful as a learning tool for artist, instead of something that just steals their shit, I can see people being less pissy about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:24:45 No.34661537 Report

Quoted By:

>>34661075
Nowhere did I say that retard. I just think it’s stupid that people are only now complaining about machines taking peoples jobs when it’s been going on for decades. Muh art! Muh art! Get your head out of your own ass. Factory workers do more for society then artists and nobody cared when machines replaced them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:25:10 No.34661552 Report

Quoted By:

>>34661436
They won't be able to stop it. The future is now old man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:28:26 No.34661671 Report

Quoted By: >>34666703

>>34661536
It’s still going to happen regardless. Whining about it just makes the person look like a bitch. It’s similar to how people bitch and moan about leaked member content. Who cares?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:29:24 No.34661703 Report

Quoted By: >>34663423

>>34661536
It's a legal problem when the AI charges money to be used.

If the AI is free then I don't think it needs permission: does an artist need permission to save another artist's work and use it as reference to draw something similar without direct tracing?

What if the AI was good enough to blend its inspirations well enough you can't tell where it got them from? Is that meaningfully different from how humans work? The more artist references it has to work with, the better it will get at doing that.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:30:27 No.34661732 Report

Quoted By: >>34661803

On the trumpet / doomsday / whatever scale, where does AI art fit in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:32:26 No.34661803 Report

Quoted By:

>>34661732
Insofar as it breaks our conception of reality, and attenuates our connections with others, a solid 10. Literally the end, doesn't even have to be hostile.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:43:53 No.34662167 Report

Quoted By: >>34662264 >>34662885

AI art programs have some merit as tools to assist actual artists make actual drawings
It's a shame that AIfags are so obnoxious about it all that they're pushing people further and further away from it by posting their generic, samey pinup pics and screaming "THE FUTURE IS NOW, RETARDS" to everyone they can

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:45:19 No.34662212 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655838
>it's not art
t. ranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:47:18 No.34662264 Report

Quoted By:

>>34662167
Give it time. The more they spam it everywhere and supply vastly outstrips demand, AI outputs become meaningless and it just becomes the tool that it always is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:58:27 No.34662586 Report

Quoted By:

>>34656807
At least I'm talentless with a pile of fresh new coom material

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:07:16 No.34662845 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
wut

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:08:59 No.34662885 Report

Quoted By: >>34663339

>>34662167
That AI art cannot exist without real art
The AI isn't making the art >>34658168
If danbooru shut down today your entire program would cease to exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:10:08 No.34662923 Report

Quoted By: >>34663404

>>34661436
Ame is on "AI art is okay" side, even suggesting a twitter tag for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:16:18 No.34663077 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
Hey, I thought she retired!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:17:49 No.34663119 Report

Quoted By:

I want my art drawn by human suffering not some sampling machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:19:26 No.34663162 Report

Quoted By: >>34663212

>>34655780
It makes drawfags mald in agony and that can make them stop from uploading stuff for her or the girls, they know it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:21:32 No.34663212 Report

Quoted By: >>34663651

>>34663162
The more you pajeet retards spam it the faster it will get banned everywhere. Pixiv is already banning it because some retard is raiding all the tags

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:24:17 No.34663297 Report

Quoted By: >>34663482

>>34658797
>it is not really political to take a stance on it, but these two are political for taking a stance on it
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:24:39 No.34663308 Report

Quoted By: >>34663544

The sheer amount of searing rage these AIs have caused is a marvel to behold. I have no dog in this fight, save for hating whiny artists; AVE, AI BVLL

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:25:48 No.34663339 Report

Quoted By: >>34663407

>>34662885
>If danbooru shut down today your entire program would cease to exist
For one, they could just turn to twitter, pixiv, or whatever to expand their training data, but more importantly the AI does not scrape images from these datasets when you type in a prompt. All the images already went through the AI in the learning process. If the devs would lose all access to training data, then the program wouldn't "cease to exist". It just wouldn't improve any further. But as long as artists publicly upload their works this won't be the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:28:23 No.34663404 Report

Quoted By: >>34663630

>>34662923
creating a new tag means it easier to ignore. she's on the no side like the rest of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:28:31 No.34663406 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
Just like when Gura was rage quitting Elden Ring she was still considerate enough to tell her audience that she would still spend time checking the fanarts and memes of her instead of just closing the stream

Imagine the timeline where Mori has been the #1 instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:28:33 No.34663407 Report

Quoted By:

>>34663339
twitter has no tags for the bot to fetch, pixiv has some but very miniscule
it relies entirely on the boorus expansive tagging system (which was done entirely by fans for free for years by the way)
The ai literally cannot function without the boorus

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:28:56 No.34663423 Report

Quoted By:

>>34661703
>I only have what ifs
Come back when it happens, currently we are arguing about the present

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:30:08 No.34663461 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
>doesn't watch streams
>clipnigger
>forcing pink AND orange woman together
The trinity of shitty baits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:30:46 No.34663482 Report

Quoted By: >>34663510 >>34663598 >>34663733 >>34669279

>>34663297
aren't hololive chuubas forbidden to spout political shit, so why are they doing it now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:31:48 No.34663510 Report

Quoted By: >>34663904 >>34664002

>>34663482
because their art tag is being invaded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:32:57 No.34663544 Report

Quoted By: >>34663790

>>34663308
>I have no dog, except I do since I side against artists
Why are you posting like this?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:33:19 No.34663558 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
>Load in Klaius’ 70 Guras into the AI Algorithm
>Gura likes and retweets the bootleg
Make me proud robo-shills, you got the clip of her condoning your practices

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:34:42 No.34663598 Report

Quoted By:

>>34663482
>It is political to take a stance against their art tag getting spammed with AI genersted images
It will never become political, no matter how far you try to reach

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:36:09 No.34663630 Report

Quoted By:

>>34663404
The way she was talking about it, she thought AI art (and chat) was pretty cool
It's still a smart idea to create a separate twitter tag for them since AI art is currently in a grey legal area with regards to copyright et al, and you know nips are anal about that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:37:10 No.34663651 Report

Quoted By: >>34663783

>>34663212
Keep malding

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:38:33 No.34663679 Report

Quoted By:

>>34660662
The issue is literally that ai art is a puzzle of other peoples art. sometimes so blatanly that you can recognize the main base piece. That when its not a deformity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:40:25 No.34663733 Report

Quoted By: >>34663752

>>34663482
There's nothing political about saying art tags are for art and not AI generated images. Take your meds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:41:07 No.34663752 Report

Quoted By: >>34663784

>>34663733
You're the horse and im the car bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:41:11 No.34663753 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
With AI art I think there's some really nice stuff being made but even if you gave me the most perfect AI art ever made I'll still call it lazy.
It's a technological marvel to have even gotten this far but the person making the pieces is a lazy shit that's rolling gacha until he gets an SSR.
I'll still say it looks nice because it does sometimes but rolling gacha and drawing something by hand are two very different things and I don't think rolling gacha a couple hundred times is something to be proud of.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:41:25 No.34663764 Report

Quoted By:

>>34656504
>Will say some version of this exact line
>Will then proceed to do nothing for the small artists who became collateral because of the AI artists
>Will forgot to tell the Takos to find and support small artists on their own volition regardless of her Retweets
It’s the same song and dance. The “victims” of AI art are easily saveable
but aren’t because apathy.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:42:14 No.34663783 Report

Quoted By:

>>34663651
>low quality, unremarkable AI art gets spammed so hard that sites ban it because it's clogging them up and getting in the way of anything decent, thus completely deplatforming AIfags from being able to post things anywhere relevant
>"haha rent free seethe"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:42:15 No.34663784 Report

Quoted By: >>34663846

>>34663752
I'm the person with an average IQ and you're the person with an IQ that edges in to mental retardation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:42:27 No.34663790 Report

Quoted By:

>>34663544
I said I’m against WHINY artists, not all artists. The field has never been one that you should treat as stable enough to complain about it to the degree of what’s happened ITT, and in several others. The Holos are very likely all going to have to hold a similar stance, due to rights on images, but seeking the eradication of these programs is quite vindictive on the part of those supposedly beautiful minds in the field.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:45:03 No.34663846 Report

Quoted By: >>34663911

>>34663784
>I go on 4Chan to cry daily and to hide my tears
Talk to me once you become bankrupt enough you want to whore yourself
I like boys

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:47:16 No.34663904 Report

Quoted By:

>>34663510
>their art tag is being invaded
Whose is? Kiara was the first holo to speak out against it, yet I could only find a single AI image in her art tag (up to a week old since it was only popularized recently) and that one was posted after her tweet, most likely knowingly against her wishes.
If you can tho, I would appreciate to see a holo (or any other chuuba) who has their art tag actually invaded by AI art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:47:48 No.34663911 Report

Quoted By: >>34663957

>>34663846
>I like boys
You're a faggot. News at 11.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:48:28 No.34663931 Report

Quoted By: >>34664006

https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1577943578084769792

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:49:17 No.34663957 Report

Quoted By:

>>34663911
Im the top and fucked multiple boys with hrt already
grooming is a specialty on r9k

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:51:16 No.34664002 Report

Quoted By:

>>34663510
No they aren't. They're virtue signalling for their artist dickhuggers and friends, especially Kiara, and little else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:51:34 No.34664006 Report

Quoted By: >>34664068 >>34664146

>>34663931
She fucking deleted it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:54:14 No.34664068 Report

Quoted By: >>34664104 >>34664246 >>34664266 >>34664404 >>34664448 >>34665904

>>34664006
Fortunately I didn't close my tab

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:55:38 No.34664104 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664068
ppl probably cried bc she made a # for ai art and twittards hate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:57:13 No.34664146 Report

Quoted By: >>34664166 >>34664266

>>34664006
nah she just told people to use her non-art tags instead for AI stuff
https://mobile.twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1577944572499759110

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:58:11 No.34664166 Report

Quoted By: >>34664216 >>34664266

>>34664146
She compares it to her lewd tag, anon, it's basically "sort it out yourself, not in my official tags"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:00:24 No.34664216 Report

Quoted By: >>34664425

>>34664166
>not in my official tags
>ame mentions #ameliaRT and #amelive

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:01:46 No.34664246 Report

Quoted By: >>34664289 >>34664314

>>34664068
Based, ame is the only dealing with this non-issue in a mature manner. Unlike the retarded chicken and the brapper of Okinawa pretending the whole thing is the work of the devil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:02:26 No.34664266 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664068
>>34664146
>>34664166
>quarantining the AIfags in their own little tag so that nobody has to see them spam their bullshit in the real channels
based as hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:03:17 No.34664289 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664246
She already deleted this lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:04:26 No.34664314 Report

Quoted By: >>34664528

>>34664246
Nice how you comment this after she deleted it retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:05:54 No.34664356 Report

Quoted By: >>34666095

>>34655838
>It wasn't made by a fan.
Fair
>And it's not art.
Not sure about that. Smearing shit on a canvas is art. The bar isn't high.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:07:33 No.34664404 Report

Quoted By: >>34664429

>>34664068
lmao what a fucking coward. Gura and Ame really are pussies huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:08:29 No.34664425 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664216
https://mobile.twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1577944969075359744
>you guys are free to use the other tags we've come up with for a.i. and lewd stuff
>use the other tags
>for a.i. and lewd stuff
This is saying to use aiame and amelewd for those things. People who follow Ame and like to make AI art of her know to put it there now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:08:33 No.34664429 Report

Quoted By: >>34664461 >>34664611

>>34664404
Really wanna see what people commented or quote tweeted that caused her to delete this

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:09:16 No.34664448 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664068
>Gives frustrated artists the perfect chance to trick her into liking AI art for the clout points
>Thinks that her 50 Likes in 1 day tendencies won’t let any AIs slip through
>Thinks people will stay in AI containment
Amelia…

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:09:39 No.34664461 Report

Quoted By: >>34664514

>>34664429
Did they threaten her to kill her and her family? If not I don't care

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:10:43 No.34664492 Report

Quoted By: >>34664576 >>34665064 >>34665244 >>34666345

One thing I will say about this AI art is anyone doing this needs to immediately and efficiently distance themselves from the cunts using this shit that are planning to make money off it since YOU KNOW they're going to do it.
The tech's cool and I feel it can evolve in a really interesting way but you know some pajeet or chink or SEAnig will try and make money off this and start a shit flinging competition once the artists whose art is being drawn over catch wind of their art being sold for a profit.
Distance yourselves so you can stay innocent or this whole AI thing will go up in flames faster than retard coated in gasoline. I'm not saying stop, just distance yourselves from the one's you can tell are planning to make money off it or you'll suffer alongside them.
Ostracize those fucks early to save yourself a headache for when shit hits the fan. It's going to happen. YOU KNOW IT WILL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:11:30 No.34664514 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664461
I like the Vox article (yes I read that shit sometimes) about Twitter which pretty much describes it as some sort of 4Chan lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:11:59 No.34664528 Report

Quoted By: >>34664607

>>34664314
Go and draw yourself eating a dick, you obsolete piece of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:14:06 No.34664576 Report

Quoted By: >>34664723

>>34664492
>you know some pajeet or chink or SEAnig will try and make money off this
I already saw a retard on twitter planning to open commissions kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:15:11 No.34664607 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664528
You can eat my dick
Just mined one Monero come on do it baby

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:15:18 No.34664611 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664429
Show me. I'm bored

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:19:52 No.34664723 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664576
All the more reason to create that distance ASAP if you want the AI to be able to evolve and go beyond just drawing over existing artwork but truly make something unique.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:23:01 No.34664811 Report

Quoted By: >>34664857 >>34664893

If an artist were to stop drawing because a machine could do it better than him then for what fucking reason was he drawing in the first place?
Drawing without passion or enjoyment is as soulless as the machine itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:24:51 No.34664857 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664811
I mean they can stop idc.
Some artists on twitch but not many draw and all they do is complain.
''Oh i hate drawing it's boring'' Only had 2 of these cases and one of them was my friend.
I guess these bitches can finally stop with ai art out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:26:06 No.34664893 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664811
if they drew with passion they wouldn't care about ai art at all, they're all just coping that their paycheck is fading away after years of bragging about it never being possible to be replaced

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:28:07 No.34664950 Report

Quoted By:

>>34660615
>implying people that use AI to generate arts are on the same level as artists
>>implying people that use AI to generate arts are on the same level as novelists
what's next retardchama?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:32:30 No.34665064 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664492
Some furry artist is already doing commissions of her "victorian era" art

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:40:07 No.34665244 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664492
I also see an issue when vtuber use AI generated images for their thumbnails as they are basically monetized. So it makes perfect sense for them to tell people not to use their hashtag or make a new one. Also the hashtag is for fanart and AI generated images are not fanart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:40:17 No.34665250 Report

Quoted By: >>34665358

>>34655307
according to SEA-antis, AI artwork that takes only a single sentence worth of effort to shit out is suddenly worthy of being shouted out over genuine original artwork. Please, kill yourself as soon as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:44:46 No.34665358 Report

Quoted By:

>>34665250
i'm making a dozen dummy accounts and touching up some ai pics to tweet just for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:47:52 No.34665444 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655780
Why are anon's parents such retards? Contraception is cheap. They should be grateful there was the possibility of avoiding the walking disappointment that is anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:50:17 No.34665515 Report

Quoted By: >>34665538

>>34655780
The only people who are okay with AI "Art" is people who don't draw at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:51:05 No.34665538 Report

Quoted By:

>>34665515
so the vast majority of this planet then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:55:13 No.34665644 Report

Quoted By: >>34665703

why are twitter troons mad about this?
AI art is exactly like them : a crude patchwork that tries to resemble to an anime girl

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:55:50 No.34665670 Report

Quoted By: >>34665769 >>34665924 >>34666026

How do I learn to draw?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:57:14 No.34665703 Report

Quoted By:

>>34665644
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 09:59:52 No.34665769 Report

Quoted By:

>>34665670
There are drawfag threads on almost every single board on 4chan that can get you started

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:01:40 No.34665817 Report

Quoted By:

>>34661189
this
Technological advancements always make talentless hacks seethe.
Eventually the good manual artists (and good AI artists) will thrive, the hack drawfags will seethe and cope and most AI will be used for backgrounds, in between frames and such. Overall there will be more quality content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:05:47 No.34665904 Report

Quoted By:

>>34664068
Having it in it's own tag is the best solution. Other fanbases will probably end up doing this by themselves now. Sasuga

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:06:34 No.34665924 Report

Quoted By:

>>34665670
avoid /ic/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:06:41 No.34665926 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
She's a kind girl. She would deserve a promotion to HoloJP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:06:55 No.34665931 Report

Quoted By: >>34672148

>>34655629
How fuckfaced are you to not get the hint?
SHE DON'T WANT YOUR AI PNGs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:07:21 No.34665943 Report

Quoted By:

>>34658797
>feels like borderline political grandstanding
especially Kiara's reply throughout her post, it's a fun read hahaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:09:01 No.34665980 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655780
Let’s be honest, you only push AI art because you lack the ability to draw anime titties and lack even more perception to tell how disproportionate the end results are but the coomer brain only see two massive circles and that’s enough for an erection?

All things aside, I think most wouldn’t have an issue if it wasn’t generated using existing artwork.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:10:34 No.34666026 Report

Quoted By:

>>34665670
Look up the fundamentals, start with simple shapes and look at old master works on how they used those shapes. Hope this helps man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:11:40 No.34666053 Report

Quoted By: >>34666503 >>34666618

>>34661189
>Thinking that taking photos is just mindlessly pressing a button.

It requires you to hunts for a good location to take a picture. You also need to understand how to operate your tools. Even if there is a good photo it still needs editing and recoloring. You have to know what is a good composition. It requires mental, physical and monetary power of a real human.

All you need to make AI art is punching random tags and hope for the best.

Get a hobby anon, so you know how it take to create a real art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:13:25 No.34666095 Report

Quoted By: >>34666232

>>34664356
>Smearing shit on a canvas is art
It could be art if it's to express something, but typically that kind of stuff is just post modern nonsense to run cover for blatant money laundering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:18:59 No.34666232 Report

Quoted By:

>>34666095
>It could be art if it's to express something
Just frame it, hang it up, and put a plaque that titles it as "This Art Is Shit." Instant exposure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:23:47 No.34666345 Report

Quoted By: >>34666728 >>34668313

>>34664492
The worm will turn, it always does. First real push back will probably in the form of some massive lawsuit either by the artists or their financial backers. When AI art is in some legal problems those same backers will dump the artists for the AI generated art. 2 generations down the line AI art will be normalized and you'll be looked at as some backwards pleb for not embracing it like people that don't use mobile devices. Digital art prices will tank and be solely dominated by AI generated shite for pennies, the only exception being art that's used for encoding hidden messages. That era will lock everyone into and infinite chasm of regurgitated shit that looks nice but the same. Those artists will move away from digital space and IRL art will become the norm again. The real shit will hit the fan though when multiples AI's run simultaneously to push out people from participating in culture and just become consumers of AI generated stuff and we'll be at the beginning stages of The Matrix.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:26:28 No.34666404 Report

Quoted By: >>34666454

>>34658503
Having a separate tag leaves a bad taste on the name, especially for big company like holo. AI images already got a bad reputation, I'm sure the management don't want them to be associated with any of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:29:13 No.34666454 Report

Quoted By:

>>34666404
this is like any other tech advancement, give it time and it will become widespread. Artists will adapt like always. There will be always demand for personally drawn art. It's the bottom tier artist who have to worry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:31:44 No.34666503 Report

Quoted By:

>>34666053
Wouldn’t bother arguing with these people, coomer brain turns them retarded to support their argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:36:59 No.34666618 Report

Quoted By:

>>34666053
Not defending AI shitters but if you want not shit AI art both hunting and understanding your tools applies as well.
Punching in random tags will yield you as much results as taking random ass photos

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:37:45 No.34666639 Report

Quoted By:

>>34659745
lol, it's the artists that are seething, not whoever enjoys fiddling around with an AI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:41:07 No.34666703 Report

Quoted By:

>>34661671
Yeah, this reminds me of that time Metallica bitched about Napster back in the day. Neo-luddism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:41:08 No.34666704 Report

Quoted By: >>34666918 >>34667178 >>34667432 >>34668395

>>34655780
AI art is just the new frontier of the culture war. Like crypto it’s strongly technology-libertarianism-transhumanism coded and the people who gravitate to the opposing cluster of empathy-social democracy-humanism absolutely hate it’s guts. Holos know this and pander to the twitter fags who are mostly in the second cluster. (they wouldn’t put it in these terms, obviously, but they subconsciously associate AI art with people they don’t like, which is why there are hundreds of “based” replies under kusotori’s tweet)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:42:07 No.34666728 Report

Quoted By:

>>34666345
This post is AI-generated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:50:50 No.34666918 Report

Quoted By: >>34667649

>>34666704
Your brain is fucking rotted. You’re the exact same as people who write about the overwhelming whiteness of drone warfare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:51:28 No.34666932 Report

Quoted By:

I'm losing my brain cells by just reading this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 10:55:43 No.34667036 Report

Quoted By:

I don't care about AI arts but I just hate the facts that people will abuse it to make shitty images just like how Americans produce shit and call it food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:00:43 No.34667155 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655780
ITS THE FUTURE FUCK ARTISTS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:01:30 No.34667178 Report

Quoted By: >>34667649

>>34666704
The only people angry at the "twitter trannies" are STEM autists mad about blowing their money on the NFT monkey scam

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:08:36 No.34667356 Report

Quoted By: >>34667510

>>34660364
>It's not like these people coded and trained it. They just pull the lever.
Musicians have been having this same argument since the 80s. The New Wave music was supposed to be more-punk-than-punk because you didn't even need to learn guitar to use drum machines, arpeggiators and samples.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:11:58 No.34667432 Report

Quoted By: >>34667739

>>34666704
I don't see a contradiction between technology and empathy, transhumanism and humanism. But I suppose these are just the two popular poles of the discourse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:14:55 No.34667510 Report

Quoted By: >>34667585

>>34667356
It's pretty funny to see people baffled every time technology changes their profession. Looking forward to uber and taxi drivers getting upset when self-driving cars eventually become commonplace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:18:08 No.34667585 Report

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>>34667510
When roadkills can be dismissed by. I dunno, the AI was driving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:20:11 No.34667649 Report

Quoted By: >>34668116 >>34671968

>>34666918
Well, why do (You) think there are suddenly hundreds of twitter trannies seething about AI art like it murdered their dog in cold blood? Few of them are artists who are scared for their jobs. There has to be a reasonable explanation, and I like mine.

>>34667178
It’s sort of true because the opposite of a twitter tranny with the flag in bio really is the autistic intel STEMlord who is super into NFT/crypto. The perfect crystallizations of the extremely online parts of the blue tribe and gray tribe respectively. Granted, most people online are between the two extremes, but they still gravitate toward one of these poles, making the other their arch enemy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:23:57 No.34667739 Report

Quoted By:

>>34667432
The most suitable terms to broadly describe the two poles would be “accelerationism” and “degrowth”, I suppose

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:32:51 No.34667982 Report

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>>34655307
This isn't being considerate, it's the opposite. She's just saying she can't be bothered to research anything or to take a stance. Literally all she said was "If I accidentally like AI art, don't blame me for it, it's not my fault LOL!!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:36:52 No.34668116 Report

Quoted By:

>>34667649
for the love of god, go back

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:42:53 No.34668313 Report

Quoted By:

>>34666345
It ain't gonna go that far without some government help schizo.
Honestly I see this fading away; it's neat, but the legal nightmare isn't something that can be solved.
However, this is a step towards AI generated ANIMATION, and that could be done by artists inputting solely their own art. I think if this is taking off anywhere, it's there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:45:19 No.34668395 Report

Quoted By: >>34669466

>>34666704
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 12:04:46 No.34669125 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
more like the "queen of vtubing" being spineless as usual

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 12:07:06 No.34669208 Report

Quoted By: >>34672447

>>34660854
You are a babbling fool and have built a temple of madnes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 12:09:15 No.34669279 Report

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>>34663482
I know fucking idiots do the “having an opinion is politics” thing all the time but this is a new low. How do you even begin to argue that AI art is politics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 12:14:21 No.34669466 Report

Quoted By: >>34672927

>>34668395
As an indepth view of the issue he's not really wrong. NFTs, crypto, AI tools will be liked by autists, STEMfags and such.
Artists are generally on the opposite end of the spectrum, along with high empathy, a sense that socdem social security programs are good for the people having trouble and so on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:14:41 No.34671968 Report

Quoted By:

>>34667649
>blue tribe and gray tribe
The fucking what now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:18:19 No.34672148 Report

Quoted By:

>>34665931
found the twitter draw fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:22:05 No.34672348 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
>AIfags thinks Gura is supporting AI art even though she says she doesn't like the idea of like tweeting AI art and calls it hijacking of other people's work
Thank you for further proving that AI spammers are ESL pajeets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:24:11 No.34672447 Report

Quoted By:

>>34669208
Are you going to elaborate on that? Otherwise I take it you have no argument and are just seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:25:50 No.34672520 Report

Quoted By:

>>34657757
>literally every artist i follow who is legitimately good doesn't give a fuck
Well, duh. AI shit is obvious garbage that anybody who looks at any kind of pictures regularly can spot instantly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:33:37 No.34672869 Report

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>>34656807
You don't get it.
We're the neurons of a larger brain we don't fully understand yet.
100 years ago this was unthinkable, even 10 years ago. Imagine what this thing will do in 100 years.
Our human SOVL is just a bunch of electrical pluses connected by bio wiring in our body. There's nothing unique or special about it and we'll learn that the hard say pretty damn soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:34:27 No.34672915 Report

Quoted By:

>>34655307
She called it a computer hijacking people's art. You ai fags are getting progressively more desperate and crazier now that more people are aware of how shitty this stuff is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:34:43 No.34672927 Report

Quoted By: >>34672982 >>34673346 >>34673543 >>34673771

>>34669466
Why the fuck does Ai image generation have to be equal to NFTs? This is absolutely stupid, it’s not a business model to make money by the people who use it, it’s generating simple drawings based on big data input. And the people pay a small fee for it to make their own drawings within no time.
I can’t see how you could be against this unless you have a horse in the race yourself, as in being an "artist" with such a generic drawing style that you’re legitimately fearing to be replaced by this.
No one sane is claiming that what they’re generating is art, it’s simply algorithm-based image generation and I think it’s absolutely stupid to get worked up over it. The only people that are, are scared by it.
Talentless con artists will be filtered by this, not real passionate art that is an expression of ones soul.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:35:45 No.34672982 Report

Quoted By: >>34673252

>>34672927
Ok, pajeet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:41:57 No.34673252 Report

Quoted By: >>34673543

>>34672982
You’re a clown that hates on what exists for years already, now it intrudes on your wholsum anime bubble the second it got plugged into danbooru. Call me a ganges shitter if it gives you peace of mind, but you have no idea why you’re mad at this yourself.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:43:55 No.34673346 Report

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>>34672927
Hey look, it's the exact same lying AI ESL post that's been spammed everywhere.
>No one sane is claiming that what they’re generating is art

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:47:49 No.34673543 Report

Quoted By:

>>34673252
>>34672927
>angry indian shill seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:52:31 No.34673771 Report

Quoted By:

>>34672927
>"You're all getting worked over nothing!"
>says the third worlder that's been flooding the site with "artist, writers, and developers BTFO by AI" for 2 months straight
Watch you spam another AI thread here or another board in a few minutes because thats what you always do whenever you jackasses get called out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Oct 2022 13:56:14 No.34673938 Report

Quoted By:

>cowardly, fence-sitting whore tries to disingenuously pretend she's too "uwu stoopid x3" to tell apart the art, all so she doesn't have to take a stance on the issue

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