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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2022 23:41:01 No.36184116 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>36184275 >>36184399 >>36187704 >>36188555 >>36188791 >>36197365 >>36200721 >>36207674 >>36212758 >>36217910 >>36218599 >>36222829 >>36223892

Why nijijp x nijien not blowing up like Hololive? Why nijifans don't care about the jp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2022 23:43:08 No.36184275 Report

Quoted By: >>36184520 >>36185651 >>36200132

>>36184116
Surprise. The audience are all EOPs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2022 23:43:17 No.36184290 Report

Quoted By: >>36184931 >>36185165

It's doing well actually, EN participated in all of JP's recent big events. It's quite a surprise that things changed so quickly after the merge, and JP was so keen to welcome the EN members.

sage

sage Sat 29 Oct 2022 23:44:44 No.36184399 Report

Quoted By: >>36184692

>>36184116
I am once again imploring SEAniggers to learn English.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2022 23:46:22 No.36184520 Report

Quoted By: >>36184606 >>36184687 >>36185165

>>36184275
Doesn't stop Hololive fans from liking all of Hololive, while for Niji the EN fans completely ignore the JPs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2022 23:47:29 No.36184606 Report

Quoted By: >>36216628

>>36184520
"Liking" as in pressing the subscribe button and never looking back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2022 23:48:45 No.36184687 Report

Quoted By: >>36190742 >>36207736

>>36184520
> Hololive fans from liking all of Hololive
hahahahaha, nice joke, just check the catalog cause everyone loves the girls that collab with males

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2022 23:48:48 No.36184692 Report

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>>36184399
We can only pray the listen this time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2022 23:52:19 No.36184931 Report

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>>36184290
Holofags are pathetic, they don't even try with their bait, at least they are pretty good at circle jerking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2022 23:55:42 No.36185165 Report

Quoted By: >>36185778 >>36200015 >>36207731

>>36184290
The inclusion of gooks and indogs means almost every event has to be international. There's nothing surprising about it.
>>36184520
HoloJP has had a more active clipping scene while NijiJP's is deader than ever, especially after the release of NijiEN. A few dedicated people and subhuman faggots like the one in the OP are all that's left.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Oct 2022 23:57:24 No.36185286 Report

Quoted By: >>36185855

I remember when Hoshikawa tried to pander to eop but it didn't work out so she just dipped out and never do it again lol
The latest nijijp wave also did the same thing during their debut

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:03:05 No.36185651 Report

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>>36184275
Most EOPs watch JP dummy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:04:52 No.36185778 Report

Quoted By: >>36185981 >>36186437

>>36185165
Expect that is not the case, KR was included to a few events prior to the merge, because the majority of their members know japanese.
EN is included in the events, but as a special bracket, because most of the members that want to join the JP tournaments don't speak japanese, it's more trouble to the JP side, but they still want to invite EN for the sake of community.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:05:52 No.36185855 Report

Quoted By: >>36186303

>>36185286
>wanting EOPs in the chat
I wouldn't wish that even to my most disliked chuba.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:07:49 No.36185981 Report

Quoted By: >>36186321

>>36185778
that's a lie the pubg, apex, mahjong, splatoon tournaments don't put en members in "special brackets" they just put the ones that don't know Japanese on the same team and that's their fault for not knowing japanese

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:12:15 No.36186303 Report

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>>36185855
Ah here comes the classic nijicope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:12:25 No.36186321 Report

Quoted By: >>36186437 >>36186503

>>36185981
EN members weren't even in the roulette, anon, they were just added as team 23 and 24 for the splatoon tournament. That's what it means to be in a special bracket. Yugo was in the roulette because she knows japanese.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:14:06 No.36186437 Report

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>>36185778
What is not the case? You think them deliberately excluding KR and ID after the merge wouldn't be called racism or whatever?
>>36186321
That's just splatoon, because of network issues. Pubg had EOPs put in teams with JP.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:14:40 No.36186476 Report

Quoted By: >>36186570

Vtubing is a dying fad in the West. This isn't 2020 anymore. There simply aren't enough EN viewers to watch both the EN and JP branches at the same time. This goes for hololive as well. Percentage of

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:15:00 No.36186503 Report

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>>36186321
no, they specifically said cause of ping and that was ONLY for the splatoon tournament, Yugo lives in japan and besides him 3 other members knew Japanese

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:15:47 No.36186570 Report

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>>36186476
Wrong pic

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:19:44 No.36186842 Report

Quoted By: >>36212425 >>36214921

Reminder the most viewed salome clip from this month is the pekora clip,even nijieops don't care about her anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:34:08 No.36187704 Report

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>>36184116
ask all the nijifags in their threads then, all I ever see posted in the catalog are the nijiENs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:43:47 No.36188224 Report

Quoted By: >>36188724 >>36188736 >>36188943 >>36192018 >>36192146 >>36212879 >>36213815 >>36214669

Any NijiJP fans here that don't really watch nijiEN? It's becoming even harder for kaigai NijiJP fans due to there not being not even being that many new clips about them and all I see is NijiEN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:49:08 No.36188555 Report

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>>36184116
Half of the actual EN livers don't care about JP. That's what went wrong. And in all honesty I'm glad, because I don't want the extremely shitty half of NijiEN mixing with JP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:52:01 No.36188724 Report

Quoted By: >>36188877 >>36194512

>>36188224
>nijiJP fan
>relying on subbed clips
Lol, i have never seen any jp fan that wasn't at the very least n5. If you don't know japanese you don't watch nijisanji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:52:13 No.36188736 Report

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>>36188224
It's been said before, but with the arrival of Luxiem the JP clips basically dried up, and we just have to accept what crumbs occasionally come by, which usually involves JP talking about EN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:53:18 No.36188791 Report

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>>36184116
Hololive had a big EN following even before Holo EN debuted. Niji did not.
I don't think HoloEN really brought that many new EN fans to HoloJP. In fact, these days I feel like I see even fewer English comments in JP streams than I used to.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:54:55 No.36188877 Report

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>>36188724
>i have never seen any jp fan that wasn't at the very least n5
Sup, been a fan since way before EN released, I know a teeny tiny bit but not even enough to be N5, still enjoy the fuck out of the clips though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 00:56:07 No.36188943 Report

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>>36188224
>due to there not being not even being that many new clips about them and all I see is NijiEN.
Yeah I understand that, there used to be channels completely dedicated to a particular talent before, now most clips you see involve EN in some way

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 01:13:44 No.36190015 Report

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>OP
You cant even name 50 of nijiJP talents without opening wiki

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 01:25:36 No.36190742 Report

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>>36184687
The male collabs managed to make me stop watching Hololive and start watching Tempus. It takes a real combination of retardation for the girls’ poor choices to make even a unicorn hater like me do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 01:47:35 No.36192018 Report

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>>36188224
I am a NijiJP fan and I don't need EN subbed clips, I'm feasting daily on JP clips. Even the most popular EN vtuber will never ever have dedicated clippers like the JP side does, sorry. I can get daily breakdowns of what Kuzuha ate daily on an entire channel if I wanted

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 01:49:41 No.36192146 Report

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>>36188224
I followed JP before EN existed and continue to do so afterwards. No one is more important than my JP Oshi, and I don't rely on clips either, I just try to better my hearing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 02:28:16 No.36194512 Report

Quoted By: >>36195011

>>36188724
I was the one you replied to. I'm N3-N2 but I like to watch many eng subbed videos since the eng subs are like training wheels on a bicycle to me. Hard to explain. I still watch jp subbed clips but it takes a lot more brain power to watch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 02:35:57 No.36195011 Report

Quoted By: >>36195758 >>36196348 >>36196492

>>36194512
>N3-N2
>jp clips hard for you despite having jp subtitles
how? or are you one of those self-taught fags who pretends they're n3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 02:48:02 No.36195758 Report

Quoted By: >>36205160

>>36195011
You could say I am self-taught and I am at that level, but my oshis are people like Kenmochi and Mito, and they use many words and sayings that I yet do not understand. I will try my best and learn more... Someday I will be able to watch them like eng subbed ones..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 02:56:53 No.36196348 Report

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>>36195011
N3-N2 is still missing a lot. I remember watching anime around that level was torture because while you understand most of it, you're almost guaranteed to have to look something up at some point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 02:59:12 No.36196492 Report

Quoted By: >>36224454

>>36195011
I'm N2+ and jp sub clips are a great resource for language learning. NijiJP remains insulated from eop children. Peasants will never know this feeling.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 03:06:23 No.36197145 Report

Quoted By: >>36197988

love salome
don't really know any other nijis other than elu, the apex elf and pomu cause shes a meme
thing with holos is they interact a lot and i learned japanese partly due to loving salome and korone
but the nijis don't even really interact with desuwa, and they lack a orange woman thats fluent and works her ass off to shill the overseas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 03:08:01 No.36197365 Report

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>>36184116
NijiEN fans are full of ironic weebs, thats why theyre so obssessed with trying to get nijiEN to collab with holoEN while hololive fans only care about holoEN/JP/ID collabs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 03:15:08 No.36197988 Report

Quoted By: >>36198641

>>36197145
Mito is good for studying, especially her more structured zatsudans with visuals. You can cross-check your comprehension with jp subbed clips of the same stream.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 03:24:50 No.36198641 Report

Quoted By: >>36199822

>>36197988
kek sure ill give her a shot shes cute, thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPIhyrU2wk0&t=10

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 03:37:53 No.36199542 Report

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They've done collabs with oliver lots of times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBg_nvbjeUo&t=80

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 03:41:58 No.36199822 Report

Quoted By: >>36203125

>>36198641
https://youtu.be/SKHXgwgvN08
watching english subs is bad for language learning because they're incentivized to exaggerate and they miss a lot of nuance. Often it's obvious that the clipper is not proficient in either japanese or english. The one you posted is missing 90% of what's actually being spoken. Most of the more popular nijis have dedicated clippers who are just trying to digest streams for other fans. The clipper I posted here is particularly flashy but of high quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 03:44:54 No.36200015 Report

Quoted By: >>36213875

>>36185165
Blame that on themselves for keep gatekeeping clippers with shit tons of rule or outright copystrike or ban them. Nijisanji is shit when it comes to making it clear for their fan contents

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 03:46:38 No.36200132 Report

Quoted By: >>36200875

>>36184275
Whaaat? Anon said nijisanji more popular in japan?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 03:56:12 No.36200721 Report

Quoted By:

>>36184116
Niji JP never had a large EOP audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 03:58:18 No.36200875 Report

Quoted By:

>>36200132
The anon you replied to was refering to NijiEN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 04:02:11 No.36201132 Report

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Niji Jp is ridiculous popular in Japan where it matters to them. Doesn't matter what your Holobrony tourist ass believes.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 04:36:56 No.36203125 Report

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>>36199822
true, good points, thanks
i actually mostly watch streams without subs of any sort! that was just the first clip i found and seemed fun enough for eigo only bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 05:16:27 No.36205160 Report

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>>36195758
Kenmochi does not use THAT MUCH difficult vocabulary when he isn't being weird he just speaks properly. If he's waxing philosophical then yes. Mito uses some esoteric words. You can definitely be able to watch them even at N3 just have a digital dictionary with you, and chat open, when they say something you don't understand. This is literally one of the best tools to retain JP vocab
Watching JP subbed clips >>>>>> EN subbed clips. You will never get a 1:1 translation, the sentence structure is awkward. Learning off EN subs is just hindering you actually. Streams that are unsubtitled then supplemented with chat and JP clips are better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 06:19:33 No.36207674 Report

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>>36184116
Nijifag care about nijijp, that a good joke OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 06:21:21 No.36207731 Report

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>>36185165
Honestly good.
NijiJP is something that should be gatekept from the west. Either learn nip or don't watch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 06:21:31 No.36207736 Report

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>>36184687
Number and vod prove it, while vox from 60k ccv viewers to shitty 12k ccv is laughable at this point. Not to mention iluna who? Even tempus have more relevance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 07:14:58 No.36209470 Report

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the real nijithread isn't even on this board

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 07:40:10 No.36210317 Report

Quoted By: >>36212474

This whole thread is full of unfounded /#/fag narratives, and nobody is calling it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 09:03:06 No.36212425 Report

Quoted By: >>36212651

>>36186842
What a coincidence, the most viewed Pekora clip from this month is the Salome clip, even holoeops don't care about her anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 09:05:20 No.36212474 Report

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>>36210317
>nobody is calling it out.
No one stops to explain to the homeless man that there aren't centipedes in his skin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 09:14:06 No.36212651 Report

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>>36212425
Why are you lying?
https://youtu.be/GxtUenOrCpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 09:19:06 No.36212758 Report

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>>36184116
Because this isn't a particularly new thing, Oliver has been collabing with Lazulight since the first month they debuted. The only notable thing is that now they're doing more global events together (aka NijiEN is actually getting invited to JP events), which is probably the result of all those individual jp - en collab from before, the bridge has been built.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 09:24:15 No.36212879 Report

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>>36188224
You realize even the official EN channel stopped translating things such as Puchisanji?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 09:28:09 No.36212953 Report

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NijiJP has always been a thing you can't just casually get into from the get go unless you're watching debuts.
They often rely on collabs and established relations which may be problematic to newfags. A large part of NijiJPs is actually deep into otaku or just japanese-specific shit and as a gaijin now you not only need to know their language but also a large part of the culture.
Not to mention that whoever actually speaks english there still remembers that they're a part of the JP branch. And unless you're flexing your english in every single stream then you won't attract kaigai nikkis.
As for NijiEN - they lack crossbranch content and actual jouzus. Their most successful talents are EOPs/people speak more than two languages but not moonrunes.Their recent waves don't even try - they're basically their own thing and it's working.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 09:48:05 No.36213329 Report

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You want the answer? Literally first come first serve. Hololive has a much more grounded overseas community as compared to NijiEN/JP. Nijis just doesn't have that yet, and it's reflected by their fests and events

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 10:14:03 No.36213815 Report

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>>36188224
I learned Japanese before the clips dried up. Being able to watch streamers without twitch culture and reddit humor is a blessing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 10:16:42 No.36213875 Report

Quoted By: >>36214791

>>36200015
This. The recent cases with some anti-clipper stances is why so many are now dropping them, but that sort of mentality has always been there with some of them.
The only rules you need for clippers :
>Please provide a timestamp for the original stream if possible
>if a stream was privated, please don't clip it
There, done.
Don't vilify every single clipper with a few bad apples being cunts to cause drama.
Looking at you, Hoshikawa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 10:56:50 No.36214669 Report

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>>36188224
I used to clip and translatee NijiJP back in 2021. The nijisanji english channel was still called Nijisanji World and they did JP clips, I run my clip channel and things are looking up.

Then Lazulight debuted, all translated JP content from official channel died, and so did my desire to translate JP. At times I thought about resuming, but I all I need to do is open the nijien thread and ask myself "do I want these people on my oshi's streams?" and the answer is beyond obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 11:01:44 No.36214791 Report

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>>36213875
>This. The recent cases with some anti-clipper stances is why so many are now dropping them
The severe lack of translated JP clips happened way before the recent clip restrictions from some livers. Literally nothing has changed recently in the translated JP clipper scene because it had already died a while back. Now, if we're talking about non-translated JP clips, then they've been doing just fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 11:07:37 No.36214921 Report

Quoted By: >>36215186 >>36223594

>>36186842
Salome got sooo hard-shilled by people and now.. not many care anymore. What happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 11:18:06 No.36215186 Report

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>>36214921
JP is mainly watched by JP, unless there's a major event or a phenomenon like Salome, who is carried by memes. And of course, memes die. The English market doesn't care about JP, because NijiEN is its own barely recognisable brand of Nijisanji that doesn't mesh well with the main branch. Even ID and KR before they merged felt closer to what the main branch was like. EN is unironically a mistake that just keeps getting worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 11:40:15 No.36215744 Report

Quoted By: >>36216586

i remember the ignorant of nijiJP when collab with nijiID so awkward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 12:06:46 No.36216586 Report

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>>36215744
I always think these kinds of posts are just people larping as ESLs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 12:07:39 No.36216628 Report

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>>36184606
anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-niT_EG6qd4

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 12:39:32 No.36217910 Report

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>>36184116
>oboretai
kys clipnigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 12:55:49 No.36218599 Report

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>>36184116
JP niji has much less exposure to the clip watching EOP reddit west (aka the bulk of western vtuber fanbase) than JP holo has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 14:29:20 No.36222829 Report

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>>36184116
hmmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 14:45:05 No.36223594 Report

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>>36214921
I can't understand her. My comprehension is enough to follow a Pekora or Korone, but Salome is too technical in her speech for me. It's a shame because I did like her, but my inability to understand her filtered it for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 14:51:46 No.36223892 Report

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>>36184116
Damn this thread still alive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Oct 2022 15:03:09 No.36224454 Report

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>>36196492
>NijiJP remains insulated from eop children
I am surprised by this, because I speak fuck all of Japanese, yet I love NijiJP and have been a fan since before EN

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