>>36269807I know you're a newfaggot, but their debut did seriously change Hololive for the worse.
It's becoming increasingly clear that the EN homostars joined Holostars exclusively to get closer to the Hololive girls.
The fanbase was relatively unified with the only real controversy being whether or not Mori was ruining Hololive. Now, the fanbase is completely fractured and the infighting makes being here stressful and unpleasant for all sides, most of whom literally want the other side to die. It sucks. And it's entirely because of the introduction of HolostarsEN. They're debuts have exsacerbated the conflict within the community to the point of schism and there isn't any solution at this point without alienating at least half the fans of Hololive. This wasn't a problem before and it was completely avoidable and unnecessary.
Unlike the JP side of things which tend to segregate the two branches except for specific members' occasional projects or collabs, the EN side has seemingly integrated the starsEN's presence into almost every large collab that has occured since their debut. It has completely destroyed the aspects of Hololive that so many of its fans have enjoyed over the past two years and there is no undoing the damage that has occured. Many of the EN members themselves have grown to resent a large portion of their fans that have supported them from the beginning for making their preferences known and I don't see how things can get better at this point. It's no secret that EN's numbers are declining across the board and at this point it feels like EN management are doing everything they can to destroy the niche that Hololive has provided all these years.
Hololive EN was meant to provide the Hololive JP experience in a language that those who don't speak Japanese could understand. At this point, they have completely failed to uphold that expectation and instead have created a bastardized facsimile of what should have been a great and unique form of entertainment.
So yes, they really are that bad.
