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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:02:54 No.36938883 View View Reply Original Report

Why does feels like everyone has a lower avg. ccv nowadays in EN, not just in hololive but also in niji with the luxiem bois, same with the vshojo girls but the JP ones are almost still the same?
Can someone explain to my small brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:03:35 No.36938913 Report

Quoted By: >>36947495

Too many vtubers
The viewers are too spread nowadays

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:05:01 No.36938969 Report

Quoted By: >>36939311 >>36942471 >>36947495

Pandemic's over, people go outside now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:06:04 No.36939010 Report

Quoted By: >>36947495

the japs are very dedicated to their oshis

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:07:18 No.36939063 Report

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Thanks for the explanation guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:08:52 No.36939123 Report

Quoted By: >>36939162

Vtubers are the mainstream streamers in JP now while in the West it's considered cringe because anime. Not to mean that westerns aren't as loyal to their oshi as JPs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:09:05 No.36939130 Report

Quoted By: >>36956039

>>36938883
JP have real fans or gachikoi like me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:09:53 No.36939162 Report

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>>36939123 (me)
>Not to mean
Not to mention, I mean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:10:44 No.36939191 Report

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>>36938883
it was only a fad in the west. The truth of the matter is that people prefer flesh tubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:10:59 No.36939202 Report

Quoted By: >>36939364

>>36938883
It's time to touch grass, smell the air and feel the sun. The lockdown is over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:13:28 No.36939311 Report

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>>36938969
Nah. Once shut-in, always shut-in. There is no going back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:14:40 No.36939364 Report

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>>36939202
Yes, in VR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:17:32 No.36939481 Report

Quoted By:

>>36938883
Just a fad un the west, but un jp this is what the Otaku market consumes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:22:04 No.36939709 Report

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>>36938883
EN was a mistake.
Western whores are just not interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:43:33 No.36940542 Report

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>>36938883
HoloEN running on fumes right now. Irys on break, Ina broken, Fauna sadcatdance, Kiara in timezone jail, Mumei has school. Who knows what Gura is doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 14:59:55 No.36941113 Report

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>>36938883
Not only people are watching less vtubers, lots of vtubers are also leaving the medium, normalfags can touch grass again, artistic people's projects have run their course, and even the "predebut pngtubers" are getting tired of pretending to understand the vtuber culture. Only true fans will remain, mostly otakus, and only the vtubers with a good relationship with their viewers will stay

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 15:03:09 No.36941230 Report

Quoted By: >>36943148

>>36938883
It's just tempiss and their cocksleeves running EN into the ground and normies abandoning the hobby.
Vtubers that pander to unicorns are doing fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 15:11:15 No.36941519 Report

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>>36938883
JP treats it as another form of entertainment instead of just another FOMO fad like EN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 15:31:18 No.36942164 Report

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>>36938883
Most of the normies for whom vtubing was just the new popular thing are now moving on or back to their usual entertainment, after they managed to pull down a good amount of EN vtubers and their communities to the level of regular twitch streamers with anime avatars draped over. Who would've guessed that if you take away a lot of what made vtubers appealing and popular in the first place for vague morality reasons and owning the "incels", that they isn't much left that you can't get in a lot of other places. Of course those people stopped caring, because they got what they wanted and it wasn't actually supporting the vtubers or watching the generic content they wanted out of them.

Unfortunately happens with a lot of stuff these days. When the niche thing you enjoy gets popular its good at first, because you get more of it, but once the normies outside notice it's over. They will want to be part of it, won't get it and then want to change it into something they do get, which is usually generic trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 15:40:28 No.36942471 Report

Quoted By: >>36943216

>>36938883
It's happening in /lig/ too >>36925329
so it is as >>36938969
The Nijileech used to get 11.000 viewers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 16:00:26 No.36943148 Report

Quoted By:

>>36941230
Every time you mention tempiss, you will make them stronger.
Stop TALKING ABOUT TEMPISS-

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 16:02:06 No.36943216 Report

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>>36942471
Fuck Shouto - i hope he graduates from life

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 16:11:04 No.36943524 Report

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>>36938883
Could be a seasonal slump, could be that the lockdown fad is over, could be that the western market is saturated, could be that Susan is fucking with view verification again and JP viewers’ behaviors are less likely to be flagged. Could be any combination of the four.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 17:07:40 No.36945357 Report

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>>36938883
its over

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 17:44:30 No.36946535 Report

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In the West, the scale is large but unsustainable, and people quickly get bored and leave.
Some people subscribe to channels just for the buzz even though they don't watch, so they stop streaming because it grows regardless of the fun factor.
It's simply lazy to slack off in the same way when there are no lessons or recordings in the real world like JP's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 18:12:56 No.36947495 Report

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>>36938913
>>36938969
>>36939010
All correct

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 18:16:48 No.36947622 Report

Quoted By: >>36962697

White people hate vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 20:08:09 No.36951055 Report

Quoted By:

>>36938883
EN scene is too bloated

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 21:06:29 No.36952670 Report

Quoted By: >>36956112

The EN scene wasn't parasocial enough, the fans are fake and fickle.
There are too many EN vtubers now and it's spreading the audience who is now hopping around vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 21:16:16 No.36952922 Report

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>>36938883
Well Luxiem had the Chinese on their side pandered to them and we’re get shit tons of money. Then NijiEn decided to shit on them with the whole parasocial bad crap. Their fans slowly left.

Vshojo had shit tons of people raiding them for a while until they started to get ahead of them self’s and started to reveal their BFs and berate the fans that didn’t like that they were streaming with their BFs. Fans slowly left but only maybe couple thousand for each (expect Nyanners she lost like 40% of her ccv)

HoloEn introduced Tempus and yet again the fans that didn’t like it got told off by the talents. People started to leave and are still leaving.

Basically people wanted wholesome chuubas that were different from the main top streamers that constantly toxic only for the Vtubers to start doing the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 21:21:30 No.36953066 Report

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Playing popular games only dummy. Playing the same stuff they've been doing since 2020. That's why you get stale content like the summer fest and sports fest. High viewers but less engagement as previous years. I don't think I've seen anything that new or interesting from JP in a long while. They are adverse to taking risks on games. They see something that might be popular and immediately jump on that quickly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:34:07 No.36955891 Report

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I think a lot of what other anon say are true, but also i want to say... when was the last 'bit hit" game in the Vtuber sphere or actually in the whole gaming sphere? rust was mhe, so you probably have to go back to among us. There is no hype game for a long LONG time now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:35:32 No.36955957 Report

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>>36938883
>Why does feels like everyone has a lower avg. ccv nowadays
Plandemic's over.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:37:18 No.36956039 Report

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>>36939130
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:38:18 No.36956112 Report

Quoted By: >>36956374

>>36952670
>There are too many EN vtubers now and it's spreading the audience who is now hopping around vtubers.
I think people are just dropping vTubers altogether. EN vTubers think they can get by on being a sub par entertainer with a cartoon avatar whereas JP understand that kayfabe and parasociality are required unless you have some actual talent or unique skill like actually being good at games.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:40:15 No.36956209 Report

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You're playing a character! You can have any personality you want! You can completely avoid the real world if you want to and play up a fantasy!
...nah let's be cunts instead.
There's only a handful of Vchuubas worth watching.
I don't show up to streams to fight with you, I show up to play with you. If I don't feel like I can play, I wont show up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:43:54 No.36956374 Report

Quoted By:

>>36956112
JP tubers have a larger base of 30 something salary losers.

America’s viewerbase is split between the forever alone losers and a ZOOMER base.
The zoomers seems to be either branching out to Niji or watching something else.

All that’s happened is that the tourists have left, and NA reclined to stable levels of actual fans.
There’s ton of competition now, and most NA viewers watch Twitch not YouTube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:48:25 No.36956540 Report

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They need to sort out the jp mental block on getting game perms and just assume all western devs are fine with their games being played on streams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 22:50:48 No.36956639 Report

Quoted By:

>>36938883
vtubers are a gateway for weebs to discover normal streamers. Normal streamers are more engaging because they have actual facial expressions and they exist outside of retarded anime fantasies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Nov 2022 23:01:56 No.36957101 Report

Quoted By:

>>36938883
Tempus have been driving people away from the entire Holo EN branch, Niji keeps suffering yab after yab after yab, and Vshojo started declining when Vei became obsessed with showing off her boyfriend then started declining even faster once Nyanners did the same thing. Western vtubing was always destined to decline but males and yabs have been accelerating it hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 00:48:52 No.36961882 Report

Quoted By:

>>36938883
People realized Vtubers are actually shitty people, sometimes worse than normal influencers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 01:07:13 No.36962697 Report

Quoted By:

>>36947622
im white and I love them
my favourite is Minato Aqua

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 01:08:27 No.36962767 Report

Quoted By:

>>36938883
YT hates Holos, it was already proven by Twitter shadowbanning

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Nov 2022 01:11:26 No.36962950 Report

Quoted By:

>>36938883
The ccv to sub ratio in EN is so different from jp. Idk if youtube ccv count is glitches for EN (maybe Americans just use more ads block) or what. In jp, I see 2 views with sub 5k pulling in 100-150 ccv while you don't expect that ccv number for EN indir/small corpo until they hit around 20k subs.

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