>>37302515I think a large part of the bitterness came from the impression management gave that somehow these holostars were different, the EN branch of hololive was changing, it's "holopro" now, we have shared discords, the collab ban is lifting early because you all want it so much ect. ect.
If they had just had their debut and stayed in their own corner for a while longer, growing their own audience like both they are funnily enough mori said was so important at first I don't think anyone but the most ardent no-males ever unicorns would have had a problem with them doing the odd collab with girls who were open to it from the start. Of course the girls who changed their mind one or two years in were always going to have a bit of drama but nothing unmanageable depending on how they dealt with it.
Instead it feels like we got a suck it up the whole branch is changing with like 5 group collabs in the first few weeks post collab ban if you count ames tourney, the aforementioned shared discord leak, management statements wading into the Kronii drama. It was enough to make regular fans and gachis alike sour on them.
It seems something has changed behind the scenes though as the collabs have slowed down significantly from the tempo of those first few weeks, maybe management learned their lesson, they cannot force the issue, most hololive fans are going to tolerate male collabs at best but get filtered by them being regular and that finally tempus will NEVER be accepted as EN3 and if that was their bright idea for the EN branch they are very out of touch.
