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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 01:45:18 No.38422664 View View Reply Original Report

>All the other corpos debuting cool new members
>holoEN has to accept Tempus like a kid getting socks for Christmas
What a year...2023 will be better right?

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 01:47:38 No.38422805 Report

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I just want ina back, 2023 can't get here soon enough

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 01:49:35 No.38422947 Report

Quoted By: >>38425467 >>38428436 >>38429974

It was useful that Council debuted though.
Thanks to it we could safely cross out the whores and focus our attention on the pure ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 01:57:25 No.38423450 Report

Quoted By: >>38429321 >>38449706

Tempus is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 01:58:23 No.38423507 Report

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Tempus is bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 01:58:30 No.38423513 Report

Quoted By: >>38423599 >>38425517 >>38428663

>>38422664
I need socks for Christmas honestly they're weirdly expensive

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 01:58:38 No.38423521 Report

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Tempus is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 01:58:55 No.38423535 Report

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Tempus is neutral.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 01:59:26 No.38423565 Report

Quoted By: >>38423634

HoloEN is irrelevant now that Idol-EN is here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 01:59:35 No.38423572 Report

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>>38422664
i need new girls I NEED THEM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:00:00 No.38423599 Report

Quoted By: >>38423755 >>38425517 >>38428663 >>38444457 >>38460444

>>38423513
Getting clothes/socks for Christmas sucks as a child but is great as an adult. I for one can never have enough socks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:00:37 No.38423634 Report

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>>38423565
shut the fuck up and go in your containment thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:02:22 No.38423755 Report

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>>38423599
this is very true
it's nice not having to spend money on essentials

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:03:53 No.38423848 Report

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>>38422664
People forget that there might be a surprise after the Holo New-year countdown but I guess you're all too stupid for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:06:59 No.38424059 Report

Quoted By: >>38424185

>>38422664
That´s like asking for a miracle. In a perfect world, they would make super vague references on each other while supporting each other for any project that others need help, like, idk, thumbnail doing, Axel giving help to some people with covers, etc.
But this is the real world, and no matter how much goodwill there is, Holo and Stars are never meant to interact with each other. The Kronii yab convince me why: Holo EN girls are just too stupid how to handle themselves when backslash arrives.
I don´t like tribalism, I´m ok with some of Holo working with some of Niji EN girls.
I, however, heavily dislike FAKE unity.
My biggest wish is that when Stars EN 2 debuts, they ignore all of Holo EN and instead go collabing with their senpais, other indies, hell, even Niji EN are a more healthy choice that Holo EN.
Fuck Fake unity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:09:00 No.38424185 Report

Quoted By: >>38424479

>>38424059
Anyone else that post below me is a lobomized dick-sucking nigger. I hope you go to hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:13:57 No.38424479 Report

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>>38422664
Tempus is aight, people say they aren't brotubers but they're the most brotuber someone can get compared to other male chuubas who went mostly to the BFE route.
>>38424185
jokes on you, I'm into that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:18:55 No.38424778 Report

Quoted By: >>38429426

>just throw new members at them
>instead of having them stand on their own/stream/maybe get them game perms for the first time ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:23:40 No.38425057 Report

Quoted By: >>38429159 >>38456994

>>38422664
Last gen had a Mori clone, Ollie clone and a graduated nepotism hire. Myth is in total disarray with 3/5 of the girls taking constant breaks while Kiara is hard carrying. Why on Earth would you want another gen?

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:30:11 No.38425432 Report

Quoted By: >>38425493 >>38425910

>>38422664
Tempiss is a cudgel being wielded by people that hate seeing anyone enjoy something. People like this: https://streamable.com/zx0e7k
If 2023 means they get flushed like the worthless pieces of shit they are, and take Mori with them it’s a net positive.
Plus it put the spiteful bitches like Ame and Kronii in their place. They need us way more than we ever needed them, it’s about time they realized that.
We also got a new more beautiful IRyS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:30:45 No.38425467 Report

Quoted By: >>38425639 >>38425645 >>38425909 >>38426580 >>38430878 >>38431101 >>38445458

>>38422947
Kiara would definitely do male collabs, she just asked her audience first and decided against it but she has nothing against holostars or doing male collabs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:31:12 No.38425493 Report

Quoted By: >>38425791

>>38425432
Go back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:31:36 No.38425517 Report

Quoted By: >>38428663

>>38423513
>>38423599
Socks and a pack or 2 of boxers are great gifts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:33:33 No.38425639 Report

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>>38425467
>Actively seeks the approval of her audience for those decisions and doesn't do something if her audience tells her it doesn't interest them
Hence why she isn't a whore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:33:38 No.38425645 Report

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>>38425467
That’s how feedback works, it’s a business not a charity. Look at what happened to Disney and their “not to secret gay agenda”, everyone was repulsed and now they are tanking. You should never listen to twittertroons or r*dditourists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:36:14 No.38425791 Report

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>>38425493
>baffling post
You shouldn’t ironically use catchphrases you don’t understand just to fit in, r*dditroon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:38:20 No.38425909 Report

Quoted By: >>38426112

>>38425467
Better that than forcing Tempus down our throats like a few of them did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:38:22 No.38425910 Report

Quoted By: >>38425981

>>38425432
>Tempiss is a cudgel being wielded by people that hate seeing anyone enjoy something
The same applies to you and everyone else in this board. Stop trying to be a moralfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:39:23 No.38425981 Report

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>>38425910
Stop trying to force people to call you a woman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:41:33 No.38426112 Report

Quoted By: >>38426269 >>38426426 >>38426584

>>38425909
No one is forcing you to watch Tempus, they just live rent free in your head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:42:06 No.38426148 Report

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>>38422664
>>38407851
>holoEN has to accept Tempus like a kid getting socks for Christmas
Socks are good, they're very useful. So are new kitchen utensils or a 10 pound bag of long grain rice with spices.
I'm happy with my oshi from 2020 anyway.
t. ojisan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:44:11 No.38426269 Report

Quoted By: >>38456554 >>38458478

>>38426112
Yet here you are defending them for no other reason. What does that say about you? Go watch their streams, go to their threads, but instead you do this. All you homobeggars do is post about them. Accept that no one likes them or you and just move on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:44:28 No.38426286 Report

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>>38422664
>holoEN has to accept Tempus like a kid getting socks for Christmas
Socks are good, they're very useful. So are new kitchen utensils or a 10 pound bag of long grain rice with spices.
I'm happy with my oshi from 2020 anyway.
t. ojisan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:46:39 No.38426426 Report

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>>38426112
https://streamable.com/2h31up

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:47:53 No.38426506 Report

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>doubting hololive
>on christmas
You're going to learn that christmas exist for hololive.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:49:07 No.38426580 Report

Quoted By: >>38426765

>>38425467
https://streamable.com/b0jfcp

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:49:11 No.38426584 Report

Quoted By: >>38427540 >>38434580

>>38426112
>tempis entered chat
>few weeks collab spamm with tempis
>0 collabs with tempis now
>0
how is that not forced? (you can pick mori,ame,kroni same shit)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:51:24 No.38426726 Report

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>>38422664
nijisanji just hired a dude with a pornhub profile, they dont exactly have much if at all standards

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:51:30 No.38426730 Report

Quoted By: >>38426812

>>38422664
If 2023 is not better we are 100% going to be losing some Myth members next time contracts come around, they need fresh blood really fucking soon, more creative people to motivate the rest of the girls and give them some new collab partners and hopefully reinvigorate stuff like holoEN minecraft or really anything long term they do as a group.

Tempus and the way management tried to integrate them at first will have done nothing but tire out these girls even more, the ones that had to deal with fanbase drama especially but all of them are aware that shit is going on and it is probably pretty demotivating, I don't know what cover was thinking but we should have got EN3 first and then Tempus should have been totally separate from the start operating on an invite only basis for collabs like the JP side.
Also unfuck your perms situation at least for the EN side, companies are not as autistic about that kind of thing outside of Japan, if they have a streaming policy on their website let them play the games.
Hopefully cover does better next year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:51:59 No.38426765 Report

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>>38426580
based chimkin

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:52:39 No.38426812 Report

Quoted By: >>38427215

>>38426730
... Tempus IS/was invite only, except for the girls that gave explicit consent

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:59:07 No.38427215 Report

Quoted By: >>38427350 >>38427460 >>38455839

>>38426812
I refuse to believe that it was not being heavily encouraged and facilitated by management in those first few weeks even if it was mostly the girls organising stuff, also Axel confirmed that he sent open invites to all the hologirls perhaps even before he debuted regarding his song and I highly doubt they are sending messages asking for official consent to reach out, they have/had a far more relaxed approach to reaching out to the girls, probably due to the shared discord.

It wasn't even the main point of my post but the stark difference in interaction now vs the first few weeks highly suggests management was pushing it at first and backed off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 02:59:47 No.38427266 Report

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>>38422664
>accept Tempus like a kid getting socks for Christmas
Tempus is not like getting socks for Christmas.
Tempus is like getting robbed on Christmas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:00:54 No.38427350 Report

Quoted By: >>38427822

>>38427215
>shared discord
proof?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:02:40 No.38427460 Report

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>>38427215
Another good example are how the JP homo collabers are suddenly doing lots of collabs with Aruran after his redesign.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:03:52 No.38427540 Report

Quoted By: >>38427763 >>38444648 >>38444691

>>38426584
probably because they're new and the other girls just wants them to feel welcomed? Imagine if they just ignored them, the threads /here will be the other way around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:07:06 No.38427763 Report

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>>38427540
Newfag, no one asked for or wanted this. Mori even pushed to collab before the 30 day collab ban was up, just to own the “chuds”. The ones that collabed did so out of spite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:08:03 No.38427822 Report

Quoted By: >>38428076 >>38428189

>>38427350
Not getting into this timeloop again, Altare discord leak and some speculation along with the fact that unless you think all those mixed collabs and open invites were being done purely through dms it is very likely that other server was the holopro one.

The main point I was making was that we needed a new gen of girls this year to motivate the current members and provide more content that fans actually want to watch, we had a graduation, one (now perhaps two) on hiatus and shark is clearly burnt out/bored at this point, she got very active when she had new friends to play with (as did the rest of them)

We could have had something to reinvigorate hololive this year, instead we got homos that barely anybody wants to watch.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:12:28 No.38428076 Report

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>>38427822
They shit the bed because NijiFags were getting CCV that rivaled Council at that time. Now Council is actually the top branch. The only way Tempiss might not have failed spectacularly like NijiEN did, would have been if they were the first to market.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:12:44 No.38428089 Report

Quoted By: >>38428189 >>38428221 >>38428278 >>38428374

You guys have IdolEN, Phase Connect, Production Kawaii, indies etc. if you want to dip out and be a unicorn. One thing is for certain, the days of Hololive being unicorn-friendly are over regardless of who collabs with males or who doesn't. Hololive was never made for unicorns and you guys have been misled for years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:14:28 No.38428189 Report

Quoted By: >>38428406

>>38427822
>Altare discord leak
Didn't show anything revelant.
>unless you think all those mixed collabs and open invites were being done purely through dms it is very likely that other server was the holopro one.
They have all sorts of groups and servers for collabs and stuff. SNOT has their own little discord, for example. Of course the ones who are fine with male collabs would be on a server with them. There is nothing that indicates that they all share one big server, though. I agree with you on the rest of your post. StarsEN was a mistake.
>>38428089
Kill yourself homobeggar

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:15:04 No.38428221 Report

Quoted By: >>38428314 >>38428406 >>38428501 >>38457401

>>38428089
How did that work out for those that were unfortunate enough to believe people like you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:16:09 No.38428278 Report

Quoted By: >>38428406

>>38428089
>IdolEN
>mentions the Jew corpo first
I wonder who could be behind this post...

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:16:45 No.38428314 Report

Quoted By: >>38428627

>>38428221
Remember when Kronii was the most popular member of Council?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:17:42 No.38428374 Report

Quoted By: >>38428543

>>38428089
You don't have to be a unicorn to not want to watch male collabs, I watch plenty of girls in hololive that are not "unicorn friendly" still don't want to watch them playing with males and considering the homos numbers neither do the majority of hololive viewers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:18:11 No.38428406 Report

Quoted By: >>38428779 >>38429195 >>38429277

>>38428189
>>38428221
>>38428278
Well clearly Hololive has fallen off for the lot of you so I'm just providing the right alternatives for unicorns who rightfully feel betrayed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:18:39 No.38428436 Report

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>>38422947
No one in that image is a virgin

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:19:46 No.38428501 Report

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>>38428221
Enter The Void

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:20:45 No.38428543 Report

Quoted By: >>38429059

>>38428374
Besides the usual suspects in EN and Fubuki/Matsuri, who else has? I just skip those streams but understand why anyone who's done one thing with a male at least once is taboo and officially unwatchable to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:21:06 No.38428564 Report

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>>38422664
>Xbox Series Xsoleil
>Cool

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:22:16 No.38428627 Report

Quoted By: >>38428900 >>38429063

>>38428314
Enter the Void

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:23:06 No.38428663 Report

Quoted By: >>38429819 >>38431254

>>38423513
>>38423599
>>38425517
t. Poorfag parents coping about what they gave to their children

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:25:22 No.38428779 Report

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>>38428406
At this point, all I see is just small corpos taking their chance to take as much of Holo viewers into their ranks.
Nothing surprising, I mean, Capitalism, yeah?

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:27:36 No.38428900 Report

Quoted By: >>38444009

>>38428627
They were actually considered top talents before. Nene is the only one to reach 1 million since Tempiss debuted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:30:12 No.38429059 Report

Quoted By: >>38429324 >>38429374

>>38428543
Aki, Sora and if you go back far enough pretty much all the girls pre sankisei did.
>anyone who's done one thing with a male at least once is taboo
That plus casual doxfaggotry is what makes an actual unicorn, barely anybody especially on the EN side is that militant, but it doesn't mean they want mixed collabs to be common or part of an obvious forced culture shift like we appeared to be getting in those first few weeks after the collab ban ended (early)

The way they handled it fomented so much bitterness towards tempus when it didn't need to be that way, if they kept them as strictly "stars" a separate branch and didn't come out with a new branding umbrella, a new twitter account with all the girls alongside the guys, constant shilling on the holoLIVE subreddit and mods that got defensive when asked to keep it to the holostars one or allow filters.
Then to top it all off more mixed collabs than you would see in an entire year on JP in the first couple of weeks.
It is no surprised people reacted badly, unicorn or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:30:21 No.38429063 Report

Quoted By:

>>38428627
holy shit that hurts

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:32:01 No.38429159 Report

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>>38425057
And why on Earth you don't want another gen? Do you think shit will magically get better, that the members with inconsistent schedules will come back and stream multiple times a week without going into months long hiatuses and that they'll finally work on group project involving all of them like ID did with their own sports fes? Without new blood we'll keep on going with the same status quo, and even if there's a chance for all 5 of them to be garbage tier it's preferable to bet on it than see HoloEN slowly dying because no one gives a fuck anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:32:36 No.38429195 Report

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>>38428406
Not buying what you're selling rabbi

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:32:37 No.38429197 Report

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>cool new members
lol remember the last five that debuted and how only one of them is even kinda popular? What makes you think these SIX will be different? Niji is bloating this branch like they did the JP branch. By this time next year we'll be over a hundred losers in the EN branch and you'll be able to name less than ten of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:33:17 No.38429244 Report

Quoted By: >>38429361

good, dont add any new members until you can find some good ones. Niji clearly fucking cant and all of holoEN has enough good talents to make maybe one gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:33:55 No.38429277 Report

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>>38428406
>right alternatives
All of those are filled with whores just as much, if not even more so, than hololive currently is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:34:36 No.38429321 Report

Quoted By: >>38429404

>>38423450
And other lies women tell themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:34:38 No.38429324 Report

Quoted By: >>38429758 >>38429876 >>38430960

>>38429059
Bae had been open about collabing with Homos since debut, hence the reason her views were unaffected. It established a precedent that her supporters understood since the beginning, coincidentally she is least subbed (active) member of Council.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:35:29 No.38429361 Report

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>>38429244
Niji has never cared about GOOD talent. If some boring twat is willing to laze over a mic in their chosen half-assed anime stereotype model, that's good enough for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:35:41 No.38429374 Report

Quoted By: >>38429607 >>38429876

>>38429059
the shilling on the hololive subreddit is really obnoxious even by reddit standards and has even put redditors off using the subreddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:36:02 No.38429393 Report

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>>38422664
They shouldn't have debuted homos at all, because they are shit and fall in 3view. If it was EN3(female) things would be much better now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:36:12 No.38429404 Report

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>>38429321
That guy will never be a woman

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:36:32 No.38429426 Report

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>>38424778
It's been more than a year, anon. They won't stand on their own, even if Cover gets all the permissions in the world for them.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:39:42 No.38429607 Report

Quoted By: >>38429852 >>38430705

>>38429374
The clues were there since Council’s debut, when Omegatroon foisted himself on an unwilling audience he didn’t deserve. He’s been trying to backdoor his way in to being a vtuber since seething with jealousy at EnMa fan-art posted on r/Hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:42:23 No.38429758 Report

Quoted By: >>38430762 >>38431008

>>38429324
Rrat was also one of the members who collabed/interacted the least with Tempus, not counting those who barely or didn't even acknowledge them obviously. I'm pretty sure Mori was the one who pushed them the hardest, which is ironic because until Tempus she barely ever gave a fuck about Holostars outside of her collabs with Rikka, and Kronii is probably on second place after going an entire year completely ignoring the existence of the JP branch. Even Mumei interacted with I believe Astel and Roberu before that Gartic collab, but now they changed places.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:43:24 No.38429819 Report

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>>38428663
can you gift me a PS5 for christmas oh rich anon? no? poorfag.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:44:03 No.38429852 Report

Quoted By: >>38429937

>>38429607
Even their name Tempiss, is a reference to how he want to sees himself as some chunni powerlevel obsessed lorefag version of Rimuru Tempest.
>they are all gods
>but I’m the god of gods
>kneel before me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:44:04 No.38429853 Report

Quoted By: >>38431488 >>38431917

my bet, they are saving if for the reveal on holoFest. 2 gen simultaneously. 1 new gen for jp and 1 new gen for EN

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:44:23 No.38429876 Report

Quoted By: >>38430265

>>38429324
Yeah and despite the whole situation souring me on tempus and management completely, I find no fault with Bae at all, she is genuine and would have collabed once in awhile if the mood struck her and was upfront with her audience about it, I genuinely don't think she was pushing anything behind the scenes and respects what hololive is whilst being an actual fan of holostars.
>>38429374
Yeah it is dead as fuck unless there is some drama post (usually homodrama) where a bunch of posters come out of the woodwork to offer their "support" to the girls and then promptly disappear.
I know this place has slowed down too since holoEN has become stale this year but there is still an order of magnitude more discussion that on that place.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:45:36 No.38429937 Report

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>>38429852
If you’ve seen ‘That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime’ you would understand the gender-fluid bullshit he is going for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:46:12 No.38429974 Report

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>>38422947
Cross out Mumei too.
Both for the collab and for you-know-what.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:50:47 No.38430265 Report

Quoted By: >>38430434

>>38429876
If not for Mori’s involvement I wouldn’t avoid CHADcast like the plague. I don’t watch Bae personally but I would if she was with IRyS. It’s ridiculous to have some cringe faggot just invite themselves to what is essentially a ship with a wigger wine aunt chaperoning. It reeks of desperation to stay semi-relevant, just like hitching her wagon to Tempiss debut when they had a debut buff.
>sees someone else getting attention
>how can I make this about me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:53:40 No.38430434 Report

Quoted By: >>38431139

>>38430265
I remember Mori getting props for telling her audience not to homobeg and saying that she planned on keeping them at arms length to let them find their own audience and grow on their own.
Then she jumped on them the SECOND the collab ban ended and hasn't left since
Can't trust the brapper man.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:58:15 No.38430705 Report

Quoted By: >>38430842

>>38429607
Did they actually ban manager fan-art there to placate his ego? Not curious enough to actually use r*ddit but I remember it being pretty popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 03:59:24 No.38430762 Report

Quoted By: >>38431139

>>38429758
It’s a bit weird that Bae basically doesn’t really acknowledge them anymore after she was very active at the very start even going as far to share her DMs with Vesper in members only.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:00:55 No.38430842 Report

Quoted By: >>38430921

>>38430705
I remember this mamaloni image being circulated but haven’t seen much posted anywhere since then. This was the manager breakdown before Omegatroon ruined everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:01:33 No.38430878 Report

Quoted By: >>38432034

>>38425467
Kiara is a man hating femcel
A feminist, if you will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:02:26 No.38430921 Report

Quoted By: >>38430978 >>38431062

>>38430842
Enma died the moment Omega was introduced. J-chad was confirmed to be a guy iirc.
Jenma is the head talent manager for EN and only manages Kiara now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:03:07 No.38430960 Report

Quoted By: >>38431008 >>38431121 >>38431441 >>38454721

>>38429324
Well Mori used tempus as a proxy to own le incels. Evident with her boasting in "other" places when management sided with Kronii when she killed half her viewers
Truly might be one of the most petty things I've seen a holo do desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:03:33 No.38430978 Report

Quoted By:

>>38430921
Gura got a new manager, who didn't even know who Hatsune Miku was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:04:08 No.38431008 Report

Quoted By:

>>38430960
meant for
>>38429758

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:05:04 No.38431062 Report

Quoted By: >>38431231

>>38430921
Never liked J-chad but now it all makes sense, it always seemed like Mori was just trying to one-up Ina’s design of EnMa. Figures she would be lying, typical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:05:47 No.38431101 Report

Quoted By: >>38431247

>>38425467
Kiara already did a male collab.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:06:05 No.38431121 Report

Quoted By: >>38454721

>>38430960
>kill your career my dude…

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:06:20 No.38431139 Report

Quoted By:

>>38430434
Dude, she jumped on that train on day -7. It was a full week before their collab ban ended.

>>38430762
These past few weeks have been really weird. Almost 2 months of constant interactions and then everything died down, and it only got weirder after Vesper's suspension. Who knows what the fuck happened in the backstage, but in a way I'm happy that their retarded idea that a cohesive HoloPro would work with EN failed spectacularly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:07:58 No.38431231 Report

Quoted By:

>>38431062
J-Chad is a massive numberfag iirc
He was also Kiara’s manager when she was in Japan and pretty much ditched her in favor of Mori who was pulling in numbers (Jenma was supporting and housing Kiara despite not being her talent).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:08:17 No.38431247 Report

Quoted By:

>>38431101
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:08:20 No.38431254 Report

Quoted By: >>38431307

>>38428663
This guy is still wearing underwear from 20 years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:09:19 No.38431307 Report

Quoted By:

>>38431254
They used to be entirely dark blue
now they're dark brown

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:11:39 No.38431422 Report

Quoted By: >>38431488 >>38431580

We'll get EN3 before the end of the year, right? Right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:12:06 No.38431441 Report

Quoted By: >>38431931 >>38431979

>>38430960
She has always hated Hololive, and only wanted the success it brought her. She would prefer it if it were indistinguishable from her actual life, completely misunderstanding what brought success in the first place.
https://streamable.com/zx0e7k
Forcing Tempiss is just revenge for rejecting her drinking buddy’s chances to also leech off Hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:13:07 No.38431488 Report

Quoted By:

>>38431422
If you believe in Christmas miracles. Otherwise this anon >>38429853 is most likely right and we'll only even hear about them in March.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:14:41 No.38431580 Report

Quoted By:

>>38431422

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:16:10 No.38431662 Report

Quoted By:

>>38422664
kids don't know whats good, i love getting new socks for christmas. new underwear's even better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:20:54 No.38431917 Report

Quoted By:

>>38429853
>noooooo they can't debut a new GEN this soon think about the tempusrino
>but is okay to put ENs VS JPs
would cover really? I mean yeah we had Myth close to Gen 5 but at the same time is a little bit brutal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:21:14 No.38431931 Report

Quoted By: >>38432532

>>38431441
I'm so glad this faggot hasn't been around Hololive since.
Bottom of the barrel grifter garbage. I have no idea how Ironmouse's viewers tolerate him being her on stream boyfriend without feeling pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:22:18 No.38431979 Report

Quoted By:

>>38431441
>you realize Hololive members poop right?
>it’s just sad man, they are actual people that take actual poops.
>why don’t you want them to poop?
>if you don’t want them to poop they are laughing at you.
kek

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:23:11 No.38432034 Report

Quoted By:

>>38430878
ogey.
get new material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 04:32:44 No.38432532 Report

Quoted By:

>>38431931
Last time I heard anything about that piece of shit was when he’s was trying grift some “woke bucks”. Virtue signaling about the scourge of hentai which apparently was the primary focus of their content prior to this. Typical cuck behavior, trying to garner attention condemning something you supported, and farmed for content.
>righteous indignation dollar that’s a big dollar
https://youtu.be/u_Z64d8_5-U

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 05:11:15 No.38434580 Report

Quoted By: >>38435231

>>38426584
They were all announced beforehand, and you were able to simply skip the collabs or stop watching them at any time. No one forced you to watch anything, you chose to. Why should anyone care when you cry about that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 05:24:56 No.38435231 Report

Quoted By:

>>38434580
NTA but the general spam along with all the management decisions to blur the lines between branches was the actual issue more than any single collab.
If they debuted with exactly the same level of distance as the average JP stars gen and a few of the girls decided to do a collab now and again almost nobody would have sperged out.
>Why should anyone care
Well clearly something is going on because there has been nothing in the way of collabs between tempus and holoEN in many weeks now, barely any mentions either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 06:49:59 No.38439342 Report

Quoted By: >>38444081

>>38422664
>chumcucks
>talking about unwanted memes
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 07:53:41 No.38441646 Report

Quoted By:

>>38422664
>2023 will be better right?
more stagnation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 07:56:04 No.38441716 Report

Quoted By:

As you get older you'll be lucky to even get socks, anon.

t. Hasn't received a gift that wasn't clothes or a gift card in 3 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:15:32 No.38444009 Report

Quoted By:

>>38428900
I still cant get over Gura popping off like that. So based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:18:45 No.38444081 Report

Quoted By:

>>38439342
get mogged

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:35:16 No.38444457 Report

Quoted By:

>>38423599
Yeah ok Dumbledore, nice lies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:39:54 No.38444576 Report

Quoted By:

>>38422664
NijiEN got their 2nd mixed Gen. You want that in Hololive? EH?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:42:44 No.38444648 Report

Quoted By: >>38444677 >>38444691

>>38427540
You're a fucking naïve motherfucker. The last tempiss collab was almost 4 weeks ago and it was Mori's worst performing stream OF ALL TIME.
You really think they all just decided to stop the collabs overnight for no reason AT ALL?
They saw the drop in income.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:43:50 No.38444677 Report

Quoted By: >>38444742

>>38444648
>They saw the drop in income.
Anonchama they fell off WAY before that, I understand the need to cope and rightfully so, but face the facts: Tempuss had nothing to do with it.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:44:19 No.38444691 Report

Quoted By: >>38445385 >>38457225

>>38427540
>>38444648
>A world without Tempiss

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:46:34 No.38444742 Report

Quoted By: >>38444793 >>38444848 >>38445760

>>38444677
Yeah, next you'll tell me it's a complete coincidence that the ones that didn't collab with tempus haven't been bleeding money and viewers as fast as the ones that did.
That or go "FUCK NUMBERS REEEEEEE" like all you fags do when confronted with hard facts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:48:52 No.38444793 Report

Quoted By:

>>38444742
Wasn't gonna say that/those.
Plus, all you've done is put up a pretty chart showing who is a good streamer and a bad streamer.
All else follows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:49:13 No.38444798 Report

Quoted By:

>>38422664
>cool [...] members
Let's not get crazy now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:51:48 No.38444848 Report

Quoted By: >>38445306

>>38444742
>people in decline before Tempus remain in decline
no way

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:52:50 No.38444868 Report

Quoted By:

Pretty sure they carry water for these fags just to see Hololive fall desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 09:56:30 No.38444964 Report

Quoted By:

Bro did you even see the Nijisanji PV? It was so cringe and I'm a Nijisanji fan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 10:06:54 No.38445263 Report

Quoted By: >>38445431

>like a kid getting socks for Christmas
Growing up poor makes you appreciate life more. Which is what you should do instead of whining. If other corpos are doing something cool in your eyes, why not like go enjoy it? Are you some kind of brand loyalist? Corporations don't care about your loyalty. Yagoo will never give you a medal for sticking to Hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 10:08:11 No.38445306 Report

Quoted By:

>>38444848
>ignores how much harder Kronii, Ame and especially Mori declined compared to the rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 10:12:00 No.38445385 Report

Quoted By: >>38445407

>>38444691
You'd only be seething about something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 10:13:06 No.38445407 Report

Quoted By:

>>38445385
Found the tempiss fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 10:14:09 No.38445431 Report

Quoted By: >>38450499

>>38445263
>go watch other companies anon
>I am totally not a shill

Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 10:15:26 No.38445458 Report

Quoted By:

>>38425467
Kiara literally wanted to be part of Axel cover.
She will collab with males if and when something she wants to do herself show up.
will she be like zeta and playing valorant with homos? No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 10:25:19 No.38445702 Report

Quoted By:

>>38422664
Why do you care chumbro, just watch your Os..h..i...oh... sorry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 10:28:44 No.38445760 Report

Quoted By:

>>38444742
How many views did Nezumi Scheme have after 2 days?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 10:31:44 No.38445822 Report

Quoted By:

>>38422805
>he still hopes that Ina will ever come back
Takobro...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 11:51:19 No.38448295 Report

Quoted By:

>>38422664
>What a year...2023 will be better right?
StarsEN2

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 12:36:22 No.38449706 Report

Quoted By:

>>38423450
Keep telling yourself that..if they're such great male brotubers they wouldn't have to quit streaming irl and leech off holos branding

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 13:06:11 No.38450499 Report

Quoted By: >>38458610

>>38445431
>cries the others gets cool stuff and have fun playing together
>gets told to try join in
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
You will not a loyalty badge but you will keep crying every single time Gura ghosts you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 13:09:14 No.38450584 Report

Quoted By:

>>38422664
I imagine it's hard to find EN girls who can fit and not feel like twitch fleshtubers, if it's a hard process it's better to be cautious then to drop a bunch of soft yab machines

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 13:51:12 No.38451976 Report

Quoted By: >>38453773

>>38422664
>We still dont have EN3
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 14:33:26 No.38453773 Report

Quoted By:

>>38451976
Because EN management wants to turn HoloEN into NijiEN lite.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 14:36:56 No.38453947 Report

Quoted By:

>>38422664
things are just gonna get worse and then keep on getting worse. and we're just basically in a hopeless situation as it stands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 14:54:44 No.38454721 Report

Quoted By:

>>38431121
>>38430960
I wonder if Kronii even realizes what happened yet?
I'm sure Mori considers damage to the rest of hololive a win because it helps her real streamer friends in vshojo and such

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 15:17:42 No.38455839 Report

Quoted By:

>>38427215
Anon there is always a high amount of collab spam and then suddenly none as both sides burn out from it. This is a thing that happens every gen, just the first time that it was then ID with am the new boy unit.
I do think management was trying to force something but more of lessening the deluge by staggering when En, ID, and Jp could. They were also weirdly concerned with mental health.
You’d see this easily if you actually watched streams instead of bitching too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 15:22:44 No.38456058 Report

Quoted By:

grr pink woman

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 15:34:24 No.38456554 Report

Quoted By:

>>38426269

Yet here you are complaining about them for no other reason. What does that say about you? Go watch the streams you like and ignore the ones you don’t. Go to your Oshi’s thread, go support her, but instead you do this and make yourself agitated and pissy. Your Oshi would not like to see you upsetting yourself when you can just not engage and keep your mental in a good place. All you do is obsess over someone that doesn’t even interact with you and allow them to destroy and dictate your mental health. Accept that people like them and move on. It’s what your Oshi wants most of all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 15:44:30 No.38456994 Report

Quoted By:

>>38425057
She’s no where near as bad as Ollie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 15:47:46 No.38457146 Report

Quoted By: >>38458230 >>38461768

>>38422664
There will be a new gen.
But it will be 3 girls and 2 boys in the same generation.
Look into your heart, you know this is true. It cannot be helped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 15:49:43 No.38457225 Report

Quoted By:

>>38444691
Calliope would still exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 15:53:39 No.38457401 Report

Quoted By:

>>38428221
Wow, Marine has more subs than Mori and Kobo is passing Amelia? Impressive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:13:21 No.38458230 Report

Quoted By: >>38458334

>>38457146
i have strong doubts that they want to fuck this up even more. the backlash from one true mixed gen and a Cover JP just might travel overseas and throw whoever is responsible literally out of a window.
in fact it might already be happening right now. the lowest point has already been reached.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:15:45 No.38458334 Report

Quoted By: >>38458443

>>38458230
Anon, EN upper management is headquartered in JP
It's why the girls in NA have to be awake at godawful hours for meetings
And why there's such a long turnaround for communications b/w the talents and upper management

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:18:37 No.38458443 Report

Quoted By: >>38458670

>>38458334
>And why there's such a long turnaround for communications b/w the talents and upper management
No, that's just incompetence and laziness. Timezones and langue barriers can't explain why it takes them literal months to get back to the talents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:19:21 No.38458478 Report

Quoted By:

>>38426269
Yet here you are bitching at them for no other reason. What does that say about you? Go watch your oshi's streams, go to their threads, but instead you do this. All you unicorns do is post about homos. Accept that they are here to stay or just accept you are a faggot and can't stop yourself from thinking about homo cock all day

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:22:06 No.38458610 Report

Quoted By: >>38459134

>>38450499
Notice he didn't deny it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:23:25 No.38458670 Report

Quoted By:

>>38458443
Well sure, but those barriers seem to multiply that JP bureaucratic incompetence

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:34:22 No.38459134 Report

Quoted By: >>38462279

>>38458610
which company got shilled here retard-kun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 16:35:38 No.38459185 Report

Quoted By: >>38471456

>>38422664
hope EN is disbanded asap. ID will follow suit too though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 17:05:06 No.38460444 Report

Quoted By:

>>38423599
>Getting clothes/socks for Christmas sucks as a child but is great as an adult.
>All the fags bitching about Tempus are children.
It all makes sense now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 17:31:53 No.38461768 Report

Quoted By:

>>38457146
>mixed gen
Next you'll say that Stars will be part of HoloFes (I'm talking about the concert, not the Expo before some retard says they're already there), Cover will force HoloJP to invite them to big member-hosted events such as the Mario Kart tournament and the sports festival and that they'll start graduating any member who oppose to this changes, effectively losing all of their big earners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 17:42:33 No.38462279 Report

Quoted By: >>38462975

>>38459134
Your shilling against Cover you retard. It's obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 17:45:42 No.38462435 Report

Quoted By: >>38466492 >>38468447

Unicucks are truly cancer specially the gurafags and its funny considering that senzawa did a drunked stream with her boyfriend

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 17:56:36 No.38462975 Report

Quoted By:

>>38462279
I don't shill agaist anyone.
You can watch other vtubers but you chose to watch exclusively Hololive English and complain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 19:04:50 No.38466492 Report

Quoted By:

>>38462435
new rrats are being manifested in real time ITT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 19:48:15 No.38468447 Report

Quoted By:

>>38462435
>senzawa did a drunked stream with her boyfriend
Yeah me!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Dec 2022 20:48:24 No.38471456 Report

Quoted By:

>>38459185
ID still seems to be fine, or at the very least isn't falling off at the rate or magnitude of EN. If anything they might be first in, last out for Hololive's english-speaking branches.
>captcha: 88SS8
kek

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