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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:20:25 No.38686221 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>38687268 >>38690193 >>38691849 >>38692674 >>38694506

Can people redpill me about nijisanji because I don't get them at all, why do they release a new wave all the time? It just kills the charm, there's no novelty about them after a couple of days, it seems to me like they farm debut hype and that's it, on to the next one, am I wrong about this?
Also i'm not comparing them to any other vtuber agency, I just don't understand their model

safe

safe Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:31:34 No.38686550 Report

Quoted By: >>38686902 >>38689619 >>38692724 >>38694482

Why do corpofags flood the catalog about what corpo they hate, stop fucking BUMPING MY THREADS OFF
>redpill me
>why do holo
>why do niji
kill yourself
IN ALL FIELDS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:38:53 No.38686806 Report

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>38686550
Is that the "safe" word?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:39:58 No.38686846 Report

Quoted By: >>38686993 >>38687150 >>38687268 >>38687842

Pic related.
If you look closely, you'll see the top 30 Niji talents don't compare to the top 30 holo talents. But Nijisanji has more viewing time than Hololive, specifically because they have hundreds of smaller talents. They add up.

I think this way of doing things started, becaust Nijisanji made a phone-app for convenient streaming on the go. The idea was, after developing this app, just spread it to as many people as possible, let them do their own streams, and take a portion of the revenue. In that sense, the more streamers you have using your app, the better. 100? 200? 1000? The more the better.

Originally the JP branch released "waves" of talents. But soon they gave up on that, and started just debuting vtubers all the time. The EN branch was constructed to more closely follow the Hololive model. For example, in the main branch, talents are often openly in relationships, or openly married. But in the EN branch there is a big taboo about mentioning relationships (although not a strict rule). And the EN branch releases waves of talents, kind of like Hololive's "generations", and has established a tradition of giving each wave their own original song at debut.

But it's kind of a vicious system when you think about it.
-- Debut brings in lots of new viewers, but also stretches the old fanbase thin among more people.
-- Once these new viewers get interested in the company, they cling to the most talented vtubers, surging their numbers even higher.
-- Meanwhile the new debuts stretch thin the viewers of the poorly-performing talents, forcing many of them into graduation.

It's basically a system that kills the weak, and rewards the strong. Keep debuting more people, driving your weak vtubers into graduation, while the debut highs surge the numbers of the successful people even higher than before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:42:07 No.38686902 Report

Quoted By: >>38686991

>>38686550
Who the fuck are you to dictate what should or shouldn't be posted here faggot, go back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:45:11 No.38686991 Report

Quoted By: >>38689099

>>38686902
i can't dictate anything since the mods deepthroat your brown cocks on the clock so i have to see holoniji shit stomp my music and indie threads off the board

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:45:15 No.38686993 Report

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>>38686846
Ah, that would make sense. I figured it was "quantity vs quality" but the natural selection bit makes sense too. They can curate higher quality while the weaker ones get weeded, but while they're still there, they still can at least get some views.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:49:56 No.38687150 Report

Quoted By: >>38687187

>>38686846
>And the EN branch releases waves of talents, kind of like Hololive's "generations", and has established a tradition of giving each wave their own original song at debut.
thats literally how it has been for JP for years too
> The EN branch was constructed to more closely follow the Hololive model. For example, in the main branch, talents are often openly in relationships, or openly married
We literally know Enna, Millie and Aia had boyfriends before. And only very few in JP say they have relationships
> and has established a tradition of giving each wave their own original song at debut.
This has nothing to do with hololive who didnt do such thing before for them to copy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:51:01 No.38687187 Report

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>>38687150
>thats literally how it has been for JP for years too
>We literally know Enna, Millie and Aia had boyfriends before. And only very few in JP say they have relationships
>This has nothing to do with hololive who didnt do such thing before for them to copy
The question was answered and your questions here have also been answered. Got any more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 07:53:28 No.38687268 Report

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>>38686221
I know this is bait, but anyway.
Nijisanji's model is to create a large pool of talents, which allows almost everyone to find something that interests them. By debuting more people, more choices will be given to the viewer, and they can stick to one or a few talents that fit them.
By doing this, Nijisanji creates a large rollercoaster consisting of people who mainly focus on a few talents. And when a company-wide event happens, the total viewership will be high, just like Koshien.
On the contrary, Hololive focus on delivering similar content and creating a tight culture around the brand. Most hololive fans know and support almost all of them. This makes pic like >>38686846 possible because most Holofans basically watch anything with a brand of Hololive, which most Nijisanji fans don't really care about besides who they mainly watch. Hololive is more successful on average, but Nijisanji is more significant in total.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 08:11:44 No.38687842 Report

Quoted By: >>38689120

>>38686846
Also, this "driving your weak vtubers into graduation" argument is dumb as even a vtuber with around 100 viewers is earning money. If you think the poorly-performing talents in Nijisanji are starving, you're fucking retarded.
You can literally not stream at all but still stay in Nijisanji. And they are earning money as long as any talent stream. Every debut is making the rollercoaster bigger, even the weeks. Because they will still attract some people that mainly focus on them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 08:56:27 No.38689099 Report

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>>38686991
Hey if you don't like it you can always go back to /jp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 08:57:30 No.38689120 Report

Quoted By: >>38689297 >>38691384

>>38687842
If that's the case why do almost all nijisanji talents do it as a side job?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 09:04:02 No.38689297 Report

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>>38689120
>almost all nijisanji talents
First, holy threadwatcher, proof then
Second, even Shibuya Hajime is doing vtuber full-time.
Last, people can choose to maintain their connection with society as Vtuber is never a "real job" with a foreseeable future to begin with

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 09:17:01 No.38689619 Report

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>>38686550
Hear me out. If you killed yourself, you would NEVER have to see threads like this again. Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 09:29:40 No.38689930 Report

Quoted By: >>38690098

>38689619
faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 09:36:08 No.38690098 Report

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>>38689930
Seethe, cope, dilate, and kill yourself. If your shit indie or music threads were worth more than 2 replies then they would stay up on the board for longer than an hour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 09:39:44 No.38690193 Report

Quoted By: >>38690911

>>38686221
Think Zerg vs Protoss

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 10:09:12 No.38690911 Report

Quoted By: >>38691405

>>38690193
It makes sense in theory but I dont see nijisanji zerg rushing anyone in EN

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 10:30:16 No.38691384 Report

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>>38689120
Cause a lot of them dont see themselves being vtubers 10-20 years down the line

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 10:31:10 No.38691405 Report

Quoted By: >>38691454

>>38690911
gee anon they only have 3 times more talents tahn their competitor, that surely isn't a zerg rush

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 10:33:29 No.38691454 Report

Quoted By: >>38691572 >>38691646 >>38691707 >>38693055

>>38691405
But they are not winning, whats your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 10:38:53 No.38691572 Report

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>>38691454
God I hate saying this, but even if they aren’t winning, god damnit those Zerg players are having more fun (subjectively) I’ve always loved the spammy races/factions in RTS games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 10:42:57 No.38691646 Report

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>>38691454
The Protoss player isn't building additional pylons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 10:46:09 No.38691707 Report

Quoted By: >>38691771

>>38691454
just because you do zerg rush doesn't mean you win anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 10:48:47 No.38691771 Report

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>>38691707
>the last 2 NijiEN gens were just failed zergling 6pools

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 10:50:38 No.38691813 Report

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THE ONLY GOAL SCORED IN THIS ENTIRE GAME IS A ZETA OWN GOAL WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 10:52:24 No.38691849 Report

Quoted By: >>38691881

>>38686221
If you swing for every ball one of them is bound to be a home run, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 10:53:53 No.38691881 Report

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>>38691849
or to put it in another way, if you throw enough shit at the wall some of it is bound to stick

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 11:22:26 No.38692674 Report

Quoted By: >>38693055

>>38686221
Because Nijisanji's CEO Riku is lazy fuck and instead of focusing on doing research like Yagoo (Hololive and Homostars CEO) who does research and seeks to find out what is relevant, focuses on quality, and tries to refine quality of his product by having somewhat high bar established and tight frames that employees have to fit into, Riku only cares about aggressive expansion in vtubing no matter what to establish the name, which in this case is - building up hype and hiring lots of talents with questionable quality, doesn't matter if it's going to work or not, as long as there's interest in vtubing and there are funds for that, then eventually he's going to filter out the weak, which means at least 50% of all talents will be yeeted.

>TL;DR: throwing as much shit as possible until some of turds stick to wall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 11:24:08 No.38692724 Report

Quoted By:

>>38686550
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 11:33:48 No.38693055 Report

Quoted By: >>38693175

>>38691454
>Not knowing about their financial report
>>38692674
Nice fanfic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 11:37:15 No.38693175 Report

Quoted By: >>38694597

>>38693055
Fanfic how? Riku is unironically lazy fuck who bulk hires people without clear vision. All his vague vision is establishing name in the industry by throwing people around like crazy, and expecting to make money from that Nijisanji and quality don't belong in same sentence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 12:18:45 No.38694482 Report

Quoted By:

>>38686550
welcome to the /v/ in /vt/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 12:19:47 No.38694506 Report

Quoted By:

>>38686221
Money laundering, that's all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 12:23:34 No.38694597 Report

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>>38693175
>unironiclly don't realize all the praise he wrote toward Yagoo is his pure fantasy, and they are basically the same get-one-time-lucky-and-become-billionaire type of entrepreneur
Catalogfags never failed to entertain me.

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