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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 19:55:16 No.38709995 View View Reply Original Report

Was Coco ever good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 19:57:35 No.38710076 Report

Quoted By: >>38731704 >>38736613

>>38709995
Only in Hololive where she was La Creatividad saviourchad who always pushed the limits. In her new company she's an utter disappointment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 19:57:42 No.38710078 Report

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>>38709995
I liked when she would say "motherfucker" what a hoot that was

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 20:05:40 No.38710336 Report

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>>38709995
In Hololive she was a whore pushing the boundaries of idols, therefore really sticking out from the crowd. As an indie she was just a whore, albeit an amusing whore. In VShojo she is just one whore in company of even worse whores.

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 20:08:52 No.38710458 Report

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>>38709995
https://streamable.com/347lkp
Listen to this and tell me she doesn't fit into Hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 20:11:10 No.38710533 Report

Quoted By: >>38711406 >>38712885

>>38709995
I'm convinced "Coco" is one of those creative types that is much better with managerial restrictions focusing her ideas.

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 20:38:37 No.38711406 Report

Quoted By: >>38731371

>>38710533
Yea that's why Asacoco 3 was the best version

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 21:03:30 No.38712170 Report

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>>38709995
I miss THIS bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 21:06:22 No.38712295 Report

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>>38709995
Yes but that’s because she was unique in the setting that is Hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 21:18:41 No.38712885 Report

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>>38710533

That and putting her into a group of relatively prim and corporate vtubers shook things up in a very entertaining way

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:02:07 No.38714849 Report

Quoted By: >>38716136

>>38709995
I never liked her western whore behavior, so no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:03:21 No.38714916 Report

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>>38709995
She paved the way, that's all that matters I will forever miss that bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:04:13 No.38714965 Report

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>>38709995
Yes. But, what's make her shine the most was her interactions and funny skits she came up with, with the girls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 22:29:52 No.38716136 Report

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>>38714849
I never liked her. People told me she was a good gateway into vtubers years ago and she put me off the entire scene.

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Anonymous Sat 10 Dec 2022 23:33:24 No.38718938 Report

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>>38709995
Love Coco
Love Kson
simple as

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:08:08 No.38726431 Report

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>>38709995
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:13:51 No.38726826 Report

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>>38709995
Coco wasn't ever good. She is a reddit person. Reddit people are worse than the Polish

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 01:35:14 No.38728133 Report

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>>38709995
As a collab partner? yes, as solo content creator?? LMAO, I remember her fallout streams getting around 2k - 3k views in the middle of COCO IS THE MOST FAMOUS VCHUUBA EVAH wave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 02:09:25 No.38730565 Report

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>>38709995

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 02:20:52 No.38731371 Report

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>>38711406
cover management went too far in one direction as usual, she would benefit from having someone who tells her when an idea is bad and dumb. I think she got used to her fans telling her everything she does is awesome

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 02:25:34 No.38731704 Report

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>>38710076
>>38709995
She was creative in a company of japanese people who all do the same shit to an even greater level than normal people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 02:27:50 No.38731832 Report

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Abe and Trump being highly anti-Chinese meant that even redditors ended up on the Coco bandwagon when it became the Great Patriotic Vtuber War against the Communist Menace. The idea that China is going to eat your lunch is just really compelling to most people in Japan and America now.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 02:28:35 No.38731883 Report

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>>38709995
As a collab partner? no
As a solo content creator? Fuck yes!
Imagine getting rival company chuubas to wake up early and start tweeting about your show.
Also pretty based how atleast once a week she would shit on the /vyt/ schizos latest rrats

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 02:34:42 No.38732314 Report

Quoted By: >>38739565

>>38709995
Asacoco 1.0 was one of the best things to happen to hololive. Her zatsudans and stuff like bar coco were good too. She could also be pretty good with collabs, but that really depended on who she was collabing with. Never really cared for her other solo streams though. Sad that people on this side of the world remember her for reddit review more than asacoco, but I guess that's a testament that she knew what she was doing and it actually brought in a lot of EOPs.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 02:36:01 No.38732409 Report

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>>38709995
she was fun, her Fallout 4 playthrough was pretty comfykino to watch at the very least for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:36:08 No.38736613 Report

Quoted By: >>38736797 >>38738986

>>38710076
>In her new company she's an utter disappointment.
It really is amazing how restrictions and borders actually helped her content so much, but now it's just all a mess. But that's also VS in general I suppose.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:38:48 No.38736797 Report

Quoted By: >>38736976 >>38737183 >>38737886

>>38736613
She had almost no restrictions when she was at her peak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:41:23 No.38736976 Report

Quoted By: >>38737484

>>38736797
>She had almost no restrictions
lol

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:44:36 No.38737183 Report

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>>38736797
lol no
But even if you want to cling to that lie, she still had direction and a theme. Now that she is the master of her own destiny, she's aimless and stale.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:49:00 No.38737484 Report

Quoted By: >>38737655 >>38737886

>>38736976
never demonitized even by youtube till April 2020
Then restrictions by management began, and she wasn't the fastest growing vtuber anymore
Then she got streaming restricted by youtube
Then she fought with the managers who permabanned her from the main channel (May 2020)
Kanata forest and end of asacoco 1.0 (and a massive downgrade to her popularity) in June 2020

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:49:40 No.38737519 Report

Quoted By: >>38737553

>>38709995
In a group of whores the virgin stands out
In a group of virgins the whore stands out
She's now in a group of whores so no longer stand out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:50:10 No.38737553 Report

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>>38737519
Actually, this is a good way to put it.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:51:59 No.38737655 Report

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>>38737484
tbf she wasn't monetized for a really long time, and that just helped her get more popular

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:55:10 No.38737844 Report

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Reminder that nip students study about this bitch in school

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:55:43 No.38737886 Report

Quoted By: >>38738001 >>38744160

>>38736797
>>38737484
This pretty much, her ranking in CCV across the company was unmatchable early on in 2020 but as Cover threw more shackles onto her, her drive and output and popularity

>#1 Holo in January, February and March
>#4 Holo in April
>#7 Holo in May
>#8 Holo in June
>#14 Holo in July and August
>#20 Holo in September
>#7 Holo in October
>#22 Holo in November and December

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 03:57:56 No.38738001 Report

Quoted By: >>38738656 >>38740463

>>38737886
>Cover threw more shackles onto her,
What were the shackles and what content caused them?

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:08:22 No.38738656 Report

Quoted By: >>38739046 >>38739417

>>38738001
Do not mention certain people on stream
Do not show fanmade content on stream
Get permissions from managers of other holos before involving them in skits (even though the talents themselves agreed to participate)
Do not show anything on stream unless a separate manager approves it first (so content that she usually prepared at 2AM for her 6AM show was all dropped now)
Don't talk about hololive news unless you first have a meeting with managers and get it approved from all involved parties. (so stuff like pic related wasn't allowed)

Basically asacoco - the show that was mostly about hololive, was no longer about hololive and mostly only about Coco.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:10:47 No.38738792 Report

Quoted By: >>38739000

>>38709995
She is the type that will entertain you in how she try to push the boundry of Idol.

But without boundry to push in Indie then Vshojo then she became nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:14:04 No.38738986 Report

Quoted By: >>38739063

>>38736613
>freedom is slavery
Read another book

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:14:12 No.38739000 Report

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>>38738792
>Vshojo
It's just a basket at this point for bottom of the barrel lewd commentary with no substance to it. Explicitly stating and explaining all your jokes and innuendos is just tiring when watching any of thing. But people seem to love it, so it can't be help when it comes to just hiring/recruiting more girls that do much the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:14:57 No.38739046 Report

Quoted By: >>38739417

>>38738656
Was this before meme review? I kinda forgot if Asacoco and Meme review ever ran together

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:15:13 No.38739063 Report

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>>38738986
why is her content worse now with being in vshoujo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:21:08 No.38739417 Report

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>>38739046
Meme Review began in between the 2nd and 3rd iterations of AsaCoco. The 2nd was still pretty good but suffered from the restrictions that >>38738656 mentioned. AsaCoco 3.0 was a sanitized husk that she quickly abandoned after a brief last attempt and by then she fully turned to Meme Review as her only regularly ongoing series.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:23:25 No.38739565 Report

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>>38732314
>Asacoco 1.0 was one of the best things to happen to hololive. Her zatsudans and stuff like bar coco were good too. She could also be pretty good with collabs, but that really depended on who she was collabing with.
I think this is the general opinion of those who were around back then. Asacoco was a nice way to keep up with the other girls and a way for them to gain some exposure too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:34:05 No.38740154 Report

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She was during the early days of Asacoco 1.0 and when active english engagement was still a novelty, but then Hololive management started strangling what she could do/talk about and it became clear most of her appeal was acting as a glorified clipper and getting Luna to say english curse words. She also just got lazy/burnt out on anything that wasn't fucking Ark, which like newfags today act like Pokemon season or whatever fotm plague has anything on the dark days of when Hololive was 85% Ark streams, mostly thanks to Coco. Then most of all she went full bore on pandering to redditors, with her borderline unwatchable meme reviews, and ultimately served as the biggest tumor of cringe faggotry that's been metastasizing through english vtubing ever since.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:40:18 No.38740463 Report

Quoted By: >>38740642

>>38738001
>what content caused them?
As far as I remember, the first controversy that made management actually step in and interfere was a graphical suicide joke thrown in for no reason. It was probably a case of the straw that broke the camel's back, except it was a particularly heavy straw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:43:24 No.38740642 Report

Quoted By: >>38740897

>>38740463
>graphical suicide joke thrown in for no reason
Kanata hanging herself from a tree and swaying limply from side to side?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:47:29 No.38740865 Report

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>>38709995
When in collabs yes.
Solo solidly maybish? AsaCoco yes. Other stuff wildly fluctuating between good and just bleh as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:48:02 No.38740897 Report

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>>38740642
Yeah, that one. It was after that episode that management started actually putting a real filter on asacoco content, which completely fucked her production schedule, since she started depending on checks by a bunch of different people for a show she essentially put together between midnight and 6AM, and made it essentially impossible to continue the way she'd been doing it so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:52:39 No.38741166 Report

Quoted By: >>38741214 >>38741632

>>38709995
Her gimmick was being the whore of hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:53:37 No.38741214 Report

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>>38741166
Now we have all of EN and ID, she just wasn't unique anymore and especially now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 04:56:32 No.38741363 Report

Quoted By: >>38742219

>>38726826
lol i did not expect to read such a terrible take today
did a Polish steal your girl or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 05:01:17 No.38741632 Report

Quoted By: >>38742033

>>38741166
>whore of hololive.
that position was held by several of his sempais and kohais

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 05:02:38 No.38741727 Report

Quoted By: >>38741914

>>38709995
I feel like in hololive she had too many restriction put on her by management but great chemistry with other members.
Whereas now in Vshojo it's the exact opposite. Freedom but no members really to make asacoco about.
Can't have it all I guess...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 05:05:32 No.38741914 Report

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>>38741727
Her old ideas and themes literally don't work for her now, and she honestly would've been better off dumping the vtubing shit and doing something new than trying to retread old ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 05:06:52 No.38742014 Report

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>>38709995
No, her only popular streams were made by the Hololive community, on her own she had the same numbers as Kson.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 05:07:04 No.38742033 Report

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>>38741632
>sempais
>kohais

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 05:10:14 No.38742219 Report

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>>38741363
It's not a terrible take. Take off the blinders and just look at the bitch and her content. She's absolute shit tier. And I'm not going to even try to sell you on the Polish. Hitler ransacking that shit country was the best thing that ever happened to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 05:44:16 No.38744160 Report

Quoted By: >>38744648

>>38737886
>New debut that speaks engrish on stream during the period EOPs started clamouring for vtubers is #1 for 3 months straight
>starts dropping off after holoEN releases.
I wonder .

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 05:51:45 No.38744535 Report

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>>38709995
fun fact, she was the last ace cover ever produced, 5th and 6th gen just had ok vtubers that never soared in subs or had more than 30k viewers on regular streams, and EN was a wasted investment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 05:53:22 No.38744607 Report

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>>38709995
No. Seeing clips of her in 2020 is what made me write off vtuvers as a whole until this year when I finally got sucked in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Dec 2022 05:54:11 No.38744648 Report

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>>38744160
>starts dropping off after holoEN releases
That's around september and the decline started in july.

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