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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 00:19:11 No.38787100 View View Reply Original Report

What went wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 00:20:15 No.38787167 Report

Quoted By: >>38788479 >>38790618 >>38814030 >>38819021 >>38819134 >>38821020

Some Nijifag could summarize this wave?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 00:22:23 No.38787258 Report

Quoted By: >>38818901 >>38835885

>>38787100
Solid wave with 6 good talents but Iluna fucked them and the entire branch's growth over preemptively by even existing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 00:44:38 No.38788253 Report

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>>38787100
It’s only been like 2 days man

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 00:49:41 No.38788479 Report

Quoted By: >>38827998

>>38787167
2 dudes in the back suck but will do alright with sisters, probably
The girls are good
The fag in front is a vanilla gook so he's a guaranteed lock for yumes and fujos alike, and probably won't be an annoyance for anyone else

Better than Iluna/10 but any kind of momentum is already dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 01:02:35 No.38789020 Report

Quoted By: >>38789268 >>38807090 >>38810281 >>38812702

they severely miscalculated by treating en like jp imo
en is a lot more tight knit than jp, people usually have a few oshis but still keep up with most of the other talents and tune in now and then. wave spam will decrease average numbers all over the board. i don't think another miracle like luxiem that pulls in huge amounts of new viewers will happen in the foreseeable future, what market is there right now that is untapped? iluna, xsoleil, even noctyx to an extent only spread them thinner. the market is already oversaturated and this will only accelerate the trend.
however, the graphs posted show most of nijien is on the upturn (except the current downwards trend all across the industry, probably temporary fall debuff), so maybe i have no idea what the fuck i'm talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 01:07:09 No.38789241 Report

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>>38787100
Kotoka isn't waiting for me in bed, that's what's wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 01:07:42 No.38789268 Report

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>>38789020
yeah you have no idea what you're talking about.

they will bring new viewers for sure but not as crazy as the early waves and luxiem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 01:19:20 No.38789927 Report

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>>38787100
honestly im boring with their sex joke....

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 01:22:33 No.38790100 Report

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>>38787100
Your birth

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 01:22:45 No.38790114 Report

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>>38787100
Looks like (Student) Councils didn't do well as expected

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 01:31:18 No.38790618 Report

Quoted By: >>38881994

>>38787167
They seem alright. Kotoka and Meloco might need to get a little creative because they're non-gamers but their debut zatsus were good. Zaion seems very promising and charming. Doppio seems genuinely retarded but his dedication to kayfabe is incredible. Ver might be alright if he has good game selection and keeps tardwrangling hard. Not that interested in Hex, have not watched him at all yet.
So far they've done a lot less lowest-hanging-fruit pandering compared to iluna and seem more engaged with and understanding of vtuber culture, I believe several were previously indie vtubers.
It's unlikely NijiEN's ever gonna have another Luxiem in terms of explosive growth & popularity but these six seem like they have the potential to each carve out a decent niche for themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 01:33:37 No.38790748 Report

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>>38787100
They debuted males. Good otherwise

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 02:08:09 No.38792985 Report

Quoted By: >>38811014

For one, most of their names are dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 03:17:04 No.38797339 Report

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>>38790114
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 03:56:10 No.38800102 Report

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>>38787100
not being just the three girls

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 04:25:03 No.38801878 Report

Quoted By: >>38835885

>>38787100
Unironically Iluna living a sour taste on everyone's mouth, SEXLEL is fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 04:27:09 No.38801994 Report

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>>38787100
RIP blondie. Shes headed to 3views town in a week or two. Funny enough the female with the worst grasp on the english language is the better of the 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 05:43:58 No.38806404 Report

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>>38787100
*what went right

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 05:55:59 No.38807090 Report

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>>38789020
Viewers dilution is definitely there, with each talents pulling from other people

But then, the amount of talents and the amount of streams they are doing means that they are definitely capturing new people, even if people will flow on to others.

Basically, even if its not good for individuals, its net good for the group overall and the company

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 06:01:16 No.38807387 Report

Quoted By: >>38835885

>>38787100
The momentum died with Iluna, Xsoleil is a way better wave tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 06:35:06 No.38808887 Report

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>>38787100
nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 07:06:28 No.38810281 Report

Quoted By: >>38811110 >>38811182

>>38789020
I think you’re pretty spot on though I feel like there’s still some untapped audiences out there like the KR audience. Maybe one of the new members that speaks Korean can leverage it well enough.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 07:27:26 No.38811014 Report

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>>38792985
Well it could've been worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 07:30:34 No.38811110 Report

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>>38810281
Gooks dont want ur corpo goyslop, koreans like their indies which is why every korean vtuber company or branch has ultimately failed and everyone who went back to being an indie grew

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 07:32:38 No.38811182 Report

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>>38810281
Niji kr bombed. Thank God you don't work for them. You'd probably recommend making niji IND as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 07:38:01 No.38811365 Report

Quoted By: >>38811497 >>38830696

I enjoyed Melocco, so far, but I like helping JP ESLs with culture and language, so this could just be Beatani rebound. Hex seems okay, kinda chill, hopefully will not turn into a phone sex operator like Vox. Haven't check the others yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 07:42:08 No.38811497 Report

Quoted By: >>38811598 >>38839832 >>38869776

>>38811365
Kotoka is ok so far but it remains to be seen how she turns out in the long run.

I wonder if the JP girls know better than to go for the cuckjisanji emasculation experience the Western girls seem to relish so much, like Mel literally is a big Holo/GFE fan like 100% confirmed, so it's interesting to see if she's gonna get dragged down to the OTV-wannabe lowest common denominator or not. we'll just have to wait and see.

Also, amusingly the JP ENs could form an alliance with Petra IMO because she can converse with them in either language just fine and washed her hands of the EN branch effectively, so actually they could have their own clique if they tried.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 07:44:55 No.38811598 Report

Quoted By: >>38812259

>>38811497
is melocco the only jp? Do you know mel's rm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 08:06:15 No.38812259 Report

Quoted By: >>38812740

>>38811598
all three of the new nijiENs are JP girls. mel and kotoka live in japan, they just confirmed it via time zones (I think the third one is stateside, although she herself said that she is fully nip). mel's PL is that one that looked a ton like she could have been Fubuki's sister, there was just a big thread about it the other day.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 08:21:35 No.38812702 Report

Quoted By: >>38838680

>>38789020
>however, the graphs posted show most of nijien is on the upturn (except the current downwards trend all across the industry
I have no idea how you could come to that conclusion. The dip started before the current winter blues that is hitting every EN. But even if we pretend that is the case, they were at best stagnant and not pulling in new audiences. Their numbers were being carried hard by Luxiem who have fallen off quite a bit.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 08:22:53 No.38812740 Report

Quoted By: >>38813089 >>38849764

>>38812259
>mel's PL is that one that looked a ton like she could have been Fubuki's sister
Fubuki's sister was the very Korean vtuber Lee Siu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 08:35:39 No.38813089 Report

Quoted By: >>38814081

>>38812740
Fubu has more than one sister Anon. Funnily enough the one anons are talking about was a hedgehog, though I'm still not convinced it's actually her

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 09:11:02 No.38814030 Report

Quoted By: >>38814140

>>38787167
GUYS

purple hair with white streaks - BFE (nasally voice)
glasses guy - BFE (deep voice)
Short guy with dark red hair - Korean ESL

-----------------
GIRLS

Marin - JP ESL
Raiden - JP ESL (way worse English than Olivers)
Keqing - Hag voice petite bodytpe (not in a good way but fleshtuber using an avatar type of way)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 09:13:29 No.38814081 Report

Quoted By: >>38814280

>>38813089
the coriander thing kind of does it for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 09:15:33 No.38814140 Report

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>>38814030
kotoka's accent is reasonably light, she talks just fine in English really, she does flub a word sometimes but it's rather similar to how Irys does it. mel's got a peanut-butter thick accent but IMO it's cute anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 09:21:24 No.38814280 Report

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>>38814081
Japs hate coriander. It's really common there to complain about coriander.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 09:27:36 No.38814423 Report

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>watch gyaru
>I wanna cook with everyone
>btw I don't cook lol
>my room is a pigsty lol
>some male genmate should come and clean and cook for me *wink* *wink*
>close stream

One of the dudes has a god tier voice, but I don't watch male chubas, so...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 09:29:03 No.38814458 Report

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>>38787100
All three girls are great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 09:31:15 No.38814510 Report

Quoted By: >>38838883

>>38787100
>Be Nijisanji
>take random people off the street
>give them a model that doesn’t fit their voice nor personality
>repeat every 3 months

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 12:40:27 No.38818901 Report

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>>38787258
They're doing their best...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 12:44:53 No.38819021 Report

Quoted By:

>>38787100
>>38787167
Named the gen LOLISEX, but had no lolis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 12:47:45 No.38819134 Report

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>>38787167
Guy named Doppio Dropscythe

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 13:36:12 No.38821020 Report

Quoted By: >>38835498 >>38888165

>>38787167
Unmedicated schizophrenic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 14:02:27 No.38822176 Report

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They're actually not that bad. But holy shit Illuna definitely fucked things up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 14:08:25 No.38822480 Report

Quoted By: >>38831165

>>38787100
The gyaru looks sex. Can anyone tell me wether she's worth watching, and if she's gonna coomerbait?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 16:02:14 No.38827998 Report

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>>38788479
>Better than Iluna/10 but any kind of momentum is already dead
Yeah pretty much.
Jap corporations never learn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 16:57:34 No.38830696 Report

Quoted By:

>>38811365
>Hex
He has chinese subs on his lore video, its over

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 17:09:03 No.38831165 Report

Quoted By:

>>38822480
she's cute and doesn't shower often, all the girls are good though and i think the boys are probably ok too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 17:09:57 No.38831209 Report

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really really shitty talents. It doesn't get much worse than this

Hex has talent, he'll probably do great. But the others suck ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 18:54:57 No.38835460 Report

Quoted By:

>>38787100
nijisanji

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 18:56:09 No.38835498 Report

Quoted By: >>38838249 >>38838685

>>38821020
Tell me it's just a bit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 18:59:51 No.38835655 Report

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>>38787100
That hex motherfucker has the deepest voice of any chuuba I've seen.
Makes me feel inadequate ngl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 19:05:32 No.38835885 Report

Quoted By: >>38838970

>>38787258
>>38801878
>>38807387
Why are you faggots coping so much? Xsoleil failed because they're a boring vanilla ESL wave. Iluna has nothing to do with it so no point blaming them for management's fuck up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:04:47 No.38838249 Report

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>>38835498
Pio-kun is very sick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:13:22 No.38838575 Report

Quoted By: >>38866377

>>38787100
Still no EN3 so you need to talk about Xsoleil all day?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:16:02 No.38838680 Report

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>>38812702
Isn't that just EN in general?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:16:11 No.38838685 Report

Quoted By: >>38839685

>>38835498
No you should of seen his debut this guy is pure cringe I would even go as far as to say hes Mori levels of cringe or God forbid, worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:20:53 No.38838883 Report

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>>38814510
I ought to touch grass more to hopefully win the lottery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:22:52 No.38838970 Report

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>>38835885
The new wave got 10k or even more than that LESS than iLuna watching them for debuts. iLuna would have a ripple effect for future waves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:25:20 No.38839090 Report

Quoted By: >>38888857

I have to imagine all these clearly Japanese talents in EN are basically going to EN because they don't really have a choice in the matter if they want to get into Niji. So they're thrown to an audience of native speakers with their busted ass accents and hope for the best. I guess with girls it can become a charm point but I feel real bad for Yugo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:34:11 No.38839505 Report

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Even EN fans are getting tired of the shotgun approach.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:35:03 No.38839547 Report

Quoted By: >>38839792

How's the ESL girl(?) in the 2nd wave of boys doing? Not gonna lie the concernfagging made me want to SAAAVE but I'm not into nijimales

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Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:38:22 No.38839685 Report

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>>38838685
THAT JAPANESE IS LIKE SOMEONE REFINED NORMAL CRINGE AND CREATED SUPER CRINGE WHAT THE FUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:41:08 No.38839792 Report

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>>38839547
I absolutely love Yugo and watch tons of his streams but yeah.
Something crazy probably happened. Right after we saw the Cover x Anycolour thing aber tracking down schizos.
Probably some mental breakdown sadly. Yugo is even mentally weaker than some menheras out there sadly, despite not showing much of menhera behaviour, since Yugo acts mostly like a male.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 20:42:08 No.38839832 Report

Quoted By: >>38869176

>>38811497
>Also, amusingly the JP ENs could form an alliance with Petra IMO because she can converse with them in either language just fine and washed her hands of the EN branch effectively, so actually they could have their own clique if they tried.
Petra didnt wash her hands of EN, shes just busy as fuck to do collabs in general. she hasnt done any jp collab since she came back, in fact her only collabs were with EN members
>I wonder if the JP girls know better than to go for the cuckjisanji emasculation experience the Western girls seem to relish so much, like Mel literally is a big Holo/GFE fan like 100% confirmed, so it's interesting to see if she's gonna get dragged down to the OTV-wannabe lowest common denominator or not. we'll just have to wait and see.
Meloco is a big fan of Utako and Chigusa. shes not a holofag, shes a unityfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Dec 2022 22:36:14 No.38845073 Report

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>>38787100

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 00:12:31 No.38849764 Report

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>>38812740
what happened to her?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 01:28:40 No.38853740 Report

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>>38787100
More losers hiding behind a live2D avatar rather than being a good vtuber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 01:50:22 No.38855038 Report

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>>38787100
They are forgettable and safe chuubas

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 02:14:24 No.38856430 Report

Quoted By: >>38884522

I LUNA
X SOLEIL
DIX GALAXY

10 GENERATIONS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 02:50:14 No.38858799 Report

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I don't get why they couldn't have waited until at least next month with debuting them instead of shoving their debut into the same month as Luxiem's, it's a ridiculous decision because no one is gonna give a fuck merch-wise when they're gonna save money for Luxiem's anniversary merch lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 04:05:31 No.38863442 Report

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>>38787100
They're not worse than Iluna (so far) which means nothing went wrong yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 04:18:01 No.38864274 Report

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Sisters keep buying bot subs to subs boost them but it's triggered the YT's anti-bot system to look at them.

So now not only it's culled the bot subs, some legit subs also taking a hit due to suspicious behavior like bot.

Sisters are the one to blame

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 04:54:18 No.38866377 Report

Quoted By:

>>38838575
pretty much

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 05:45:57 No.38869176 Report

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>>38839832
oliver...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 05:59:16 No.38869776 Report

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>>38811497
>washed her hands of the EN branch effectively
literally
>I don't like how EN branch does things, so petra and the others should just get away from them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 06:01:06 No.38869844 Report

Quoted By: >>38871130

>people saying xsoleil went wrong
>while kotoka and zaion are streaming overdone games and doing better than any ILUNA girl did after their 2.0

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 06:30:12 No.38871130 Report

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>>38869844
failed loli didn't do that good with a chilla game
I'll give you colorful gyaru, tho, she's doing okay-ish

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 07:21:49 No.38873241 Report

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>>38787100
Its much too early to say that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 10:11:36 No.38877377 Report

Quoted By: >>38878555

>>38787100
Nijisanji "scouting"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 10:59:01 No.38878555 Report

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>>38877377
Whats wrong with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 12:49:28 No.38881752 Report

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>>38787100
nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 12:58:14 No.38881994 Report

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>>38790618

This is the most intelligent take I have seen on this board, bravo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 14:12:19 No.38884522 Report

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>>38856430
>DIX
>Dicks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 15:17:27 No.38887132 Report

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>>38787100
Nothing they're pretty cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 15:21:11 No.38887286 Report

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>>38787100
Nothing honestly, i really like zaion

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 15:31:09 No.38887664 Report

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Zaion is cute and entertaining. Haven't really watched the rest beyond their debuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 15:43:41 No.38888165 Report

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>>38821020
Wait, this guy is actually funny?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 15:59:19 No.38888857 Report

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>>38839090
But does it mean they have too many JP talents and needed to fit them somewhere or does it mean their EN auditions are already scraping the bottom for native EN talents so much that they had to resort to pulling from the JP pool?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 16:09:25 No.38889303 Report

Quoted By: >>38891249 >>38892170

Is NijiEN just done with fantasy-themed designs now? Haven't had that since Ethyria.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 16:38:31 No.38890525 Report

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who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 16:55:00 No.38891249 Report

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>>38889303
Don’t Aia and Maria count?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Dec 2022 17:18:51 No.38892170 Report

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>>38889303
NijiEN will never normal human theme.....

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