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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 03:26:55 No.39479240 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>39479311 >>39479408 >>39479500 >>39480358 >>39483036 >>39483102 >>39483772 >>39485645 >>39486978 >>39494044 >>39504883 >>39506134 >>39509452

Nobody said it was easy
No one ever said it would be so hard
I'm going back to the start

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 03:28:48 No.39479311 Report

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>>39479240
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NIJIBROS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 03:30:57 No.39479408 Report

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>>39479240
Vtubing bubble is crashing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 03:32:43 No.39479500 Report

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>>39479240
They said he was a liar, they said he spreading LIES!

What did lie? He see the future, and you ignored him

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 03:50:27 No.39480358 Report

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>>39479240
Pumped and dumped, just like the niji livers lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 04:44:32 No.39483036 Report

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>>39479240
So what's the reason for the recent fall anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 04:45:14 No.39483078 Report

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BUY THE DIP PLEASE!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 04:45:57 No.39483102 Report

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>>39479240
ALL TIME LOW, GET IN

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 04:47:12 No.39483170 Report

Quoted By: >>39483572

>>39483036
I guarantee no one here actually knows

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 04:55:07 No.39483572 Report

Quoted By: >>39485989

>>39483170
That is a pretty foolish assumption. The stock had a high valuation because people were betting on nij en driving growth and the market obviously no longer believes that so the stock’s multiples have contracted. General global bear market and people selling after lockup periods exacerbate this too of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 04:57:44 No.39483697 Report

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Buy the dip

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 04:58:58 No.39483761 Report

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Nijibros, what happened? I trusted the plan, we need to accelerate even further...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 04:59:12 No.39483772 Report

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>>39479240
Imagine if you shorted it at the peak

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 05:37:59 No.39485544 Report

Quoted By: >>39493388

OH NO NO NO! RELEASE NEW WAVES NOW!!

ACCELERATE!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 05:39:59 No.39485645 Report

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>>39479240
Looks like Nijisanji didn't do as well as expected

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 05:46:03 No.39485974 Report

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>>39483036
Locked up stock was opened up to sell. Caused a dump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 05:46:27 No.39485989 Report

Quoted By: >>39486653 >>39489799

>>39483572
I doubt it.
The foreign markets have always been relatively thrown away after thoughts. The JP market was always the main focus for both groups, it likely has more to do with the slowdown and rather lackluster JP gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 05:55:31 No.39486405 Report

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>>39483036
Niji used bots to simulate high demand and then once the stock was able to be sold the execs sold all their shares and got the fuck out. Classic rug pull.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 05:56:37 No.39486458 Report

Quoted By: >>39486690 >>39486691 >>39486853 >>39497085 >>39499444

What's the reason behind this?
Don't say because enna fucked kyo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:00:55 No.39486653 Report

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>>39485989
I thought the growth from en was a big part of the investment thesis at least in order to justify those multiples. JP is the core market of course but closer to saturation unless EN vtubing just completely collapses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:01:35 No.39486690 Report

Quoted By: >>39487199

>>39486458
The whole point of the IPO was to fool investors to thinking that NIjisanji had more worth than it did. That's why Salome came about, why Salome stayed at ~100k ccv and hit one million subs at the same time that the IPO launched. That sent Niji stock soaring high. When that started to wane Niji did some hilarious projections about how NijiEN would continue to exponentially grow as it had so far (thanks to Luxiem) which got even more investors to buy in. It was all based off deception and trickery to fool people to stupidly spend way more money on something than it's actually worth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:01:39 No.39486691 Report

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>>39486458
investors dont give a fuck what happens in the streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:05:49 No.39486853 Report

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>>39486458
Investors sold after the lock period ended
Anycolor put out their financial report that only really showed minor growth in merch/events but nothing impressive compared to their first one they showed to investors so it was definitely disappointing
It was super overvalued at the start which is typical for "tech" companies and investors being greedy/optimistic/dumb
I don't really know about any of the other factors like how the overall market is doing

/#/ doesn't really know much either outside of their usual shitpostings

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:08:43 No.39486978 Report

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>>39479240
Those who realize Salami performance was artificial, especially early investor immediately dumping at Dec 5. Then investors confidence just slipped from here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:12:53 No.39487161 Report

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>>39486853
>+28% ytd
>minor

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:13:41 No.39487198 Report

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so what's the bet?
are anons /here/ pink or green?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:13:41 No.39487199 Report

Quoted By: >>39487686

>>39486690
The illusion that NijiEN is performing well due to Chinese fujos crumbled when Anycolor decided to release iLuna.
We are now at the timeline when Tempus unironically brought iLuna down and in turn made Nijisanji kneel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:16:33 No.39487352 Report

Quoted By: >>39504248

>>39487161
Compared to whatever estimated growth they shopped out, yeah. Investors obviously didn't give a shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:18:27 No.39487436 Report

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>>39487161
Kek nigga you should see Anycolor's projection for this period on their first report compared to the actual data now. No wonder the investors are bailing (Hell even their own CFO completely cashed out)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:19:13 No.39487456 Report

Quoted By: >>39492480 >>39504248

>>39487161
You do know investors want to to see explosive growth each quarter. That is impossible but tell that to investors that poor a lot of money into them. There's also pack mentality where a lot of people dump stock when they see everyone else dumps a lot of stock. Also, for the company, it's not what you show to investors that is important but also how you tell them good or bad news if they are confident you can turn it around or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:19:17 No.39487460 Report

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You faggots have a numbers thread to waste time in since you obviously have no streams to watch anymore, kek, so go ahead and use it.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:24:19 No.39487686 Report

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>>39487199
>They bought, and released Iluna?
>Dump it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:35:55 No.39488199 Report

Quoted By: >>39489652 >>39490681 >>39505711

>>39487686
>a total autist rambling about how much he enjoys peeling plastic film off electronics is responsible for the downfall of Nijisanji

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 06:38:23 No.39488315 Report

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>>39486978
It's less artificial and more superficial. Salome's success really didn't bleed much to the rest of the company. For now the only benefit Salome brings to 2434 is an endless stream of sponsors and mainstream attention that's focused on her and her alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 07:17:07 No.39489652 Report

Quoted By: >>39489829

>>39488199
>nijiseethe

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 07:20:18 No.39489745 Report

Quoted By: >>39489795 >>39490604 >>39497013 >>39508767

Ahh, it's going negative now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 07:21:43 No.39489795 Report

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>>39489745
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
QUICK ! INSULT ANOTHER HOLOLIVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 07:21:46 No.39489799 Report

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>>39485989
Anon you see that massive jump in September? That's because anycolor put out a financial report where their earnings jumped up over a hundred percent because they debuted luxiem, so investors piled on hoping that noctyx, iluna and whatever the new wave is would see a similar jump in revenue
Clearly that didn't hold out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 07:22:21 No.39489829 Report

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>>39489652
It's a joke anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 07:47:30 No.39490604 Report

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>>39489745
jesas

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 07:50:18 No.39490681 Report

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>>39488199
I believe this rrat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 07:52:48 No.39490745 Report

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>>39483036
Go ask /biz/, they probably know

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 07:57:45 No.39490887 Report

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>>39486853
>It was super overvalued at the start
By like 300% or 400%, mind you. They cashed in much more than they should during the IPO lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 07:59:09 No.39490928 Report

Quoted By: >>39491052 >>39491200 >>39491924 >>39492138 >>39510614

>every day until you like it, multiple times a day
Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 08:02:42 No.39491052 Report

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>>39490928
Literal nijicope

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 08:07:26 No.39491200 Report

Quoted By: >>39491924

>>39490928
the sheer number of people willing to roleplay as rabid nijifags just to shit on their numbers is actually embarrassing, like on the same level of people going on /pol/ and calling people "chuds" and extolling the virtues of marxism

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 08:24:58 No.39491715 Report

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>>39483036
Grossly inflated market cap (company is not and never will be worth 1.25 bil USD), global economy is in a recession/likely depression, and interest rates are being hiked globally so all of the macro indicators point to continued downward movement. I also notice there's no P/E ratio listed on those screencaps, which means they probably aren't publicly reporting profits, which means they're probably losing money, which is not a big problem during a bull market with low interest rates, but could turn into a death spiral with the direction things are headed. It's not unheard of for tech stocks to bleed crypto levels of market cap after IPO and that's probably what will happen to Niji within the next few months (Coinbase and Truth Social are a couple of recent examples).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 08:32:20 No.39491924 Report

Quoted By: >>39492126 >>39492172 >>39496387

>>39490928
Now watch there will be no thread about them when it raises again. Anyway, it's just an year end and Japan rised the benchmark interest rate recently, but you can't really have a conversion with your average SEA's underage on here
>>39491200
The level of obsession over them is reaching schizo level kek, SEA's board I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 08:39:01 No.39492126 Report

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>>39491924
>when it raises again
Pass me whatever you're smoking anon. I need to blur these twinkling lights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 08:39:17 No.39492138 Report

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>>39490928
Cope more bitch

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 08:40:30 No.39492172 Report

Quoted By: >>39494940 >>39495269

>>39491924
>Anyway, it's just an year end and Japan rised the benchmark interest rate recently
Yeah sure that explains why nijisanji stock fell by 8 times the market average

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 08:49:53 No.39492408 Report

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As I mentioned a few months ago, this is a typical Chinese style investment scam, usually seen in mobile game companies
Chinese company A uses the shareholder's money for marketing or advertising expenses
The payment is made to a newly established foreign game developer B
B becomes the most downloaded game company in the world and its share price rises dramatically
If the financial performance is good or the company is large, it is treated as a foreign version of Company A
If the financial performance is not good, sell B shares to cash out and set up company C
Repeating these steps, Chinese investors can easily convert other shareholders' money (AB) into free cash from other countries.
This is why many mobile game companies do not go out of business when no one plays their games, investors need them for fake transactions
How to distinguish these Chinese fraudsters is very simple: numbers
They only mention how big the numbers are, not how good the product or service is compared to the competition
Also, the Chinese only look for trustworthy capital when doing these things, so you only have to look at the investor's history with China or the tourism industry to know if the business is a Chinese piggy bank

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 08:52:41 No.39492480 Report

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>>39487456
It's more about expectation than specifically explosive growth, and how that gets priced in. Investors will still have their money in old behemoth companies that see no growth, but the price they pay for that investment reflects the expectation that there will be no growth and they are primarily taking dividends etc.
If a company projects explosive growth then investors will price that in and the share price will reflect that expectation. If it fails to meet projections, even if the results are good in isolation, the price will dip because the previous pricing had been based around even better performance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 09:28:38 No.39493388 Report

Quoted By: >>39495674

>>39485544
Excessive waves are actually what's killing EN. Viewers don't want a mediocre batch of streamers thrown at them every 4 months, they want awesome streamers and time to build a relationship with them. There are very few fans who are willing to watch every streamer that Anycolor puts out, so the greater the number of Niji members, the smaller the chance that a viewer will discover someone they're willing to watch regularly.

We're seeing the law of diminishing marginal returns in action. A large enough amount of a good thing means certain death for your business.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 09:48:08 No.39493928 Report

Quoted By: >>39497221 >>39498816 >>39507302 >>39508501 >>39512979

Is there any chance for Nijisanji to bounce back?

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 09:50:33 No.39494008 Report

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>doomp eet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 09:51:43 No.39494044 Report

Quoted By: >>39494329 >>39494407 >>39496748

>>39479240
Where were the threads celebrating the increase when it was going well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 10:01:25 No.39494329 Report

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>>39494044
There actually were some of them, especially when the stock hit 10k.

For why it wasn't spammed on catalogue daily like when it fell off back to square one today, probably because it wasn't as hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 10:03:46 No.39494407 Report

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>>39494044
there were a couple but they'd just get like 3 replies and then die because obviously
if they bounce back you will probably see some as grudgeposts/turncoat shitposting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 10:24:46 No.39494940 Report

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>>39492172
oh no no no, nijibros...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 10:36:17 No.39495269 Report

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>>39492172
>compared an IPO bubble burst period to a stable market
do /vt/ SEA schizos really? do you realy think Anycolor worth 1 bil USD?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 10:49:03 No.39495674 Report

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>>39493388
What do you think debut streams are for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 11:13:38 No.39496387 Report

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>>39491924
>you can't really have a conversion with your average SEA's underage on here
>conversion
Lol, found SEAfag right here

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 11:25:30 No.39496748 Report

Quoted By: >>39499904

>>39494044
I remember there was a thread congratulating Riku on becoming a billionaire when the stock hit over 10k (with almost 200 reps). They even talked about buying Hololive

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 11:33:53 No.39497013 Report

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>>39489745
BUY THE DIP BUY THE DIP

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 11:35:54 No.39497085 Report

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>>39486458
It's because kyo fucked enna without releasing the sex tape

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 11:40:11 No.39497221 Report

Quoted By:

>>39493928
Here’s how Nijisanji can still win

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 12:26:38 No.39498816 Report

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>>39493928
Iluna killed all the momentum that Salome brought to the company

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 12:48:22 No.39499444 Report

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>>39486458
Japan's>>39486458
economy is worsening as of late. It's also the reason why Cover change their shipping policy, I think

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 13:03:59 No.39499904 Report

Quoted By: >>39505920

>>39496748
Hololive is making the better choice of staying private. They’d fuck up if they even think of becoming a public entity like Anykara.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 14:38:22 No.39504121 Report

Quoted By:

Thanks iluna

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 14:41:09 No.39504248 Report

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>>39487352
>>39487436
>>39487456
ffs faggots. i pulled that number out of my ass wanting that at least one of you would have fact checked what the actual growth numbers were

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 14:55:52 No.39504883 Report

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>>39479240
nijisisters...

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 15:15:14 No.39505711 Report

Quoted By: >>39506400 >>39512109 >>39512315

>>39488199
>Hello, hello. This is Vesper Noir - today we're gonna be doing something kind of different. Kind of different. So - does anyone know about "dumping"? Don't take that out of context - I meant stocks. Anyway, does anyone know about dumping? So today we're going to be dumping some stocks and, we'll just, we'll just see what happens. So let's just choose any stock, we'll try this, it's called "Anycolor". It's called "Anycolor", weird name but I think that's what we'll pick. So I've got some stock here, don't ask how I have it but I have some here, and see that sell button? We're just going to sell a lot of this, like a metric CRAPTON of this stock. We're just going to "market sell" this stock until the price goes down - why does it do that? Well, we're going to be selling this stock to the lowest bidder basically, so we're going to be erasing millions in equity by doing this. It'll be great. Okay, so we'll sell this stock, and look; the stock's already down like $15. It's already down $15, and sucks for that guy. Welp, management's not gonna like that, oh well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 15:20:20 No.39505920 Report

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>>39499904
I don't see how Cover ever goes public
Public investors would want Cover to deprioritize holostars and I don't see how Yagoo would ever agree to that

Actually, there is one situation I can see this happening:
if the whole holo alternative project becomes such a massive long-term money sink that not even holo profits can sustain,
they might resort to public investment

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 15:24:30 No.39506134 Report

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>>39479240
Time for VShojo to claim their rightful place as No. 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 15:25:04 No.39506168 Report

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>>39483036
The Jews. It's always eventually the Jews.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 15:27:07 No.39506279 Report

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>>39483036
Do you really believe anycolor was seriously worth 1.25 billion?
Also Management fucking sold their shit the day it was legal for them to do so, causing even the fanboys to dump their stock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 15:29:34 No.39506400 Report

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>>39505711
That's a good imitation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 15:50:54 No.39507302 Report

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>>39493928
Accelerate with an EN salome; but this could also failed spectacularly if its another nepotism hire

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 16:20:09 No.39508501 Report

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>>39493928
Make another Holo clone talent like what they went with Salome

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 16:28:04 No.39508767 Report

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>>39489745
HODLLLL IT MUST NOT DIP BELOW 5000

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 16:47:00 No.39509452 Report

Quoted By: >>39510880

>>39479240
Kuzuha, Mito, Sasaki, Dola, Kenmochi...

YOU'RE WELCOME

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 16:51:25 No.39509592 Report

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>>39479500
>motherfucker pulled a "two more weeks" and nobody believed him

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 17:20:56 No.39510614 Report

Quoted By: >>39512465

>>39490928
This is actually new news though, going back to the original IPO price. Do you want another 50 Gura and Enna threads instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 17:27:07 No.39510880 Report

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>>39509452
Pls bring Hima as well. She's... stagnating... hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 18:00:18 No.39512109 Report

Quoted By:

>>39505711
I read it in his voice

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 18:06:37 No.39512315 Report

Quoted By:

>>39505711
I admire the dedication to the bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 18:10:10 No.39512465 Report

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>>39510614
biz would be proud

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Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 18:14:33 No.39512626 Report

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>>39483036
2 reasons:
1 - IPOs usually come out really overinflated pricewise, then drop over time to a much more realistic price. They managed to hold the price for a long time, but it was always bound to correct.
2 - Japan's economy is taking a massive shit. It's recovering slowly, but still heavily down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 18:20:37 No.39512878 Report

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>>39483036
Venture capitalists are dumping their shares because they don't see the stock growing anymore
It doesn't mean that anycolor is going to die or anything, but it does mean that we will probably see way more graduations of talents that just weren't producing for the company going into 2023

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 18:23:09 No.39512979 Report

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>>39493928
Vtubing as an interest is dying, there's no new fans coming in like with traditional anime season

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Dec 2022 18:52:00 No.39514066 Report

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>>39483036
It'd have fallen (or stabilized, whatever way you want to look at it) much earlier, but there was an IPO lock until recently. It has been dropping ever since the lock is released because their stock was massively overpriced (and still is, so expect it to drop another thousand or so).

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