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Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 12:46:36 No.39728041 View View Reply Original Report

Is this the worst redesign in vtuber history?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 12:47:45 No.39728105 Report

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>>39728041
twitch whorepocalpse is much worse.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 12:48:58 No.39728181 Report

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>>39728041
Alexa, post every single vshojo redesign.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 12:50:16 No.39728226 Report

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>>39728181
Is it really worth mentioning for someone who gets a redesign every month?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 12:50:39 No.39728251 Report

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I miss them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 12:51:58 No.39728330 Report

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>>39728226
Only because each redesign gets worse and worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 12:54:42 No.39728462 Report

Quoted By: >>39729004 >>39729046 >>39729258 >>39730794 >>39732334 >>39737101

Didn't he drop viewers since that as well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 13:04:54 No.39728934 Report

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>>39728041
Sad day for ojisan lovers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 13:06:15 No.39729004 Report

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>>39728462
yep. which sucks, since i find his exposed armpit and fuckboy energy very sexual and ripe for rape fantasies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 13:07:08 No.39729046 Report

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>>39728462
oof...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 13:12:08 No.39729258 Report

Quoted By: >>39732651

>>39728462
I just added up the views for the 80 streams prior to the redesign and the 80 streams following it and averaged them out.
7715.5 before
8617.5 after
The collabs and some special events had significantly higher numbers than his usual streams though so the median results might be different.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 13:47:07 No.39730645 Report

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>>39728041
should've went full wehraboo instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 13:49:09 No.39730717 Report

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>>39728041
post the Pikamee

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 13:50:57 No.39730794 Report

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>>39728462
He's always had low viewers, the redesign didn't change anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 14:36:32 No.39732334 Report

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>>39728462
nah, there was no change

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 14:43:30 No.39732585 Report

Quoted By: >>39732796 >>39734369 >>39734901 >>39770910

>>39728041
No, because his face is still the same.
A chuuba's personality is embodied by their model. If a stranger showed up to your door claiming to be your wife or husband, would you believe them? For this reason, any design, even if it's an objectively good design, that changes a chuuba's face entirely is bad.
Even though I like Azki's redesign more than her original model, if I were an Azki fan, I would feel like it's an entirely different person. This more often than not hurts the chewber innit too, because I've noticed *most* of the time they will decline after a redesign.
So while pizzaman's new design is objectively shit, it still looks like him and I could still watch him the same way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 14:45:20 No.39732651 Report

Quoted By: >>39773343

>>39729258
Pizzapapa ain’t coming back then…
Wait a minute he’s already done 80 streams with his new look???

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 14:50:09 No.39732796 Report

Quoted By: >>39734210

>>39732585
you can definitely get a new face while keeping the same "feel" it had before and not alienate everyone who was familiar with you. see: suisei, irys, flare (although hers a lot less drastic).

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Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 15:06:42 No.39733353 Report

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it still hurts, can't get over it...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 15:31:48 No.39734210 Report

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>>39732796
Suisei is very different now but I think she was one of those cases where it was needed. Her original model looked no better than a stock Live2D, very plain and cheap looking. Most of the times it's not really NEEDED, but rather the chuuba is schizo. See: Ironmouse
>
Irys I'd say is about 50/50. I think a lot of the unique charm was lost, but at the same time it doesn't feel entirely unfamiliar due to having the same artist. For me I think the new model feels a little sterile. It is nice though. She's declined a little bit since the reveal.
>
Flare is a good example. Mostly the eyes were made to look a little bigger, the coloring was more vibrant and her shoulders were raised. But the face was kept almost entirely the same.
Roboco is another good example of this. She even made sure the same hairstyles and accessories were available for her new model.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 15:36:24 No.39734369 Report

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>>39732585
>I would feel like it's an entirely different person
migo...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 15:46:33 No.39734762 Report

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Honestly, I think the fuckboi DJ model is pretty hot too. His hair colour and skin tone combo is really sexy in both versions, and it still looks like him. While it's a shame he lost the ojisan charm, I don't think the new model itself is bad at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 15:50:09 No.39734901 Report

Quoted By: >>39755049

>>39732585
>his face is still the same.
Are you blind? His younger face is shorter and squarer and has less pronounced cheekbones. It has a smaller nose and a wider jaw. The mouth is smaller and his eyebrows are less angular.
I know it's anime and all but for fuck's sake anon, the faces are clearly different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 16:45:37 No.39737101 Report

Quoted By: >>39739939

>>39728462
the change was so minor that it shouldn't be an argument.
I miss Arupapa, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 18:04:59 No.39739939 Report

Quoted By: >>39740024 >>39751147

>>39737101
>the change was so minor
>stylish older man changed into a young guy that dresses like a flamboyant homosexual hood rat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 18:07:16 No.39740024 Report

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>>39739939
i meant the viewership change, should've clarified, sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 20:25:59 No.39747208 Report

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>>39728041
yes. it's horrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:25:11 No.39751034 Report

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>>39728041
Good model, awful redesign.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:26:57 No.39751147 Report

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>>39739939
Honestly would be better if he was a young buck to start with and then became an old man.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:27:58 No.39751197 Report

Quoted By: >>39751380 >>39751619 >>39752083 >>39773489 >>39782290

No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:30:53 No.39751380 Report

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>>39751197
Was she possessed by a lewd demon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:35:22 No.39751619 Report

Quoted By: >>39782290

>>39751197
First time hearing about her. Hope it would be the last one as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:38:42 No.39751798 Report

Quoted By: >>39752125

>>39728041
OG Pizza papa will always be my preferred style but the new one does thematically fit in with the rest of Holostars more. And if it assuages his midlife crisis then good for him. Worst would easily go to Pikamee. Even if it's not a redesign it's all she ever uses and she tells anyone that likes the old design to fuck off. GYARI terminated the wrong VOMS member.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:44:15 No.39752083 Report

Quoted By: >>39782290

>>39751197
First they came for the VShojos
And I did not speak
Because eww, gross twitch whores
Then they came for the small corpos and indies
And I did not speak out
Because I'm not a paid shill and/or paypig
Then they came for the Niji girls
And I did not speak out
Because I am not a cuck
Then they came for the cunny
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:44:56 No.39752102 Report

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It's what women want

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:45:34 No.39752125 Report

Quoted By: >>39752224

>>39751798
Yeah Pikamee had *two* separate disastrous redesigns. No way is she not the queen of this.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:47:33 No.39752224 Report

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>>39752125

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:50:29 No.39752365 Report

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Hololive fans should not be allowed to comment on vtuber designs outside of their bubble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:51:42 No.39752436 Report

Quoted By: >>39754259

>>39752224
Honestly just seems really disrespectful to GYARI, like telling him directly to his art sucks and to fuck off I wanna be a loli. I know people shit on the chibi hoodie pikamee, but I thought that was really cute and unironically the one of the most underrated things of anything ever, but now she doesn't even use that and just uses the shitty loli models now.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 21:52:44 No.39752501 Report

Quoted By: >>39782290

>>39728041

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 22:04:19 No.39753091 Report

Quoted By: >>39755542

>>39752224
I'm fine with this one because the OG style filtered the fuck out of me.
Ugly cartoon style with no chin. And the kaiju hoodie model was even worse, she had fucking goblin proportions with a tiny body and long arms and a huge head, also staring into the side permanently.
Her new look is cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 22:04:20 No.39753094 Report

Quoted By: >>39761385

>>39752224
Why do people hate the kaiju costume?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 22:30:47 No.39754259 Report

Quoted By: >>39754388

>>39752436
GYARI deserves it for firing magnet out of nowhere.
Right after she celebrated her fucking 100k subs too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 22:34:10 No.39754388 Report

Quoted By: >>39754993

>>39754259
Wasn't she fired for having a drunk stream while being underage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 22:49:48 No.39754993 Report

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>>39754388
famous theory but not confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 22:50:55 No.39755049 Report

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>>39734901
Same style, still the same face. Other redigns usually fuck up everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 23:03:07 No.39755542 Report

Quoted By: >>39758137

>>39753091
>Her new look is cute.
It is but it doesn't fit her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Dec 2022 23:13:48 No.39755908 Report

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>>39728041
Yes. Absolutely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 00:15:16 No.39758137 Report

Quoted By: >>39760949

>>39755542
You probably say that because you were used to the older look.
She's a cute girl, that's a cute girl avatar. Fits well enough to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 01:23:47 No.39760949 Report

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>>39758137
>She's a cute girl
She's a gremlin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 01:28:21 No.39761118 Report

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>>39729004
I watched him to see Itariajin ojisan antics, now it's just Itariajin mafia fakuboi.
I still tune in the Pizza Pasta song he did with FBK when I have free time desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 01:28:35 No.39761130 Report

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>>39752224
All 3 of these are really good and fit her. The only people who say otherwise aren't even pika fans. Now fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 01:30:17 No.39761190 Report

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>>39728041
I hate this

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 01:36:04 No.39761385 Report

Quoted By: >>39761641

>>39753094
Because it went full retard with the body proportions. It looks fine when you're only seeing it from the shoulders up on stream though, which creates an illusion that it's not so bad. But it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 01:41:52 No.39761641 Report

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>>39761385
What the hell, why would you give it midget legs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 01:42:54 No.39761700 Report

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>>39728181
Its not a redesign though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 01:52:33 No.39762118 Report

Quoted By: >>39763394

>>39728041
Which one is the redesign? Because the one on the right looks way better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 02:20:59 No.39763394 Report

Quoted By: >>39763499

>>39762118
That is the original. He had a unique (among Cover talents at least) ojisan look, then threw it away to become a fuckboy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 02:23:28 No.39763499 Report

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>>39763394
Holy fuck that is a horrible redesign then. I assumed it was the opposite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 02:23:30 No.39763501 Report

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>>39728041
>Covers endgame is turning the old men/women of the company to zoomers
Hide your oshi

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 02:24:00 No.39763522 Report

Quoted By: >>39763952

>>39728041
Yes. Emasculate the man because all male chuubas should look like a bishie and then wonder why people don't watch them other than fujos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 02:33:31 No.39763952 Report

Quoted By: >>39764122

>>39763522
Aruran himself was the one that wanted to look younger though, and most fans seemed to like him better as an ojisan, so...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 02:36:37 No.39764122 Report

Quoted By: >>39772223 >>39774193

>>39763952
So he wanted to emasculate himself thinking his fans would like his bishie self when his fans liked his ojisan design. Simple as. Aruran is dumb, but I guess he felt left behind in looking cool and hip like the zoomers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 03:55:28 No.39767418 Report

Quoted By: >>39767780

>>39728041
He's going through a mid life crisis, plead be nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 04:04:28 No.39767780 Report

Quoted By: >>39768995

>>39767418
Wouldn't pretending to be a young guy just make it worse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 04:36:34 No.39768995 Report

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>>39767780
Mid life crisis doesn't work like that anon, there's a reason why most men who suffer from it buy big red expensive sports cars

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 04:50:59 No.39769519 Report

Quoted By: >>39769573

>>39728041
I will forever die on this hill: The redesign isn’t bad, it’s how he handled it was god fucking awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 04:52:25 No.39769573 Report

Quoted By: >>39769990

>>39769519
Funny, I see it as the opposite. He did a good job of trying to sell it, but the redesign is just too horrible to accept regardless.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 04:57:02 No.39769752 Report

Quoted By: >>39798331

>>39728181
>>39728041
I don't care if she ditch it already, the latina being coomer bait is cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 05:03:58 No.39769990 Report

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>>39769573
Ok now I’m curious, how do you think he sold it well? I have a few ideas on how MAYBE he tried, such as trying to get his audience used to it by using it up until the Arupapa design farewell on his birthday. So far tho, the bad kind of outweighs the good for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 05:07:20 No.39770114 Report

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>>39728041
Looks fine to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 05:14:37 No.39770403 Report

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>>39728041
The worst part is that he apparently wanted this for a very long time. His original design is genuinely really goddamn good but he willingly wanted to become a generic bitchboy.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 05:25:40 No.39770813 Report

Quoted By: >>39782290 >>39796288

>>39728041
Nope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 05:28:31 No.39770910 Report

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>>39728041

In Cover, definitely. VShojo though probably has the worst when it comes to being unrecognizable when they do changes.

There is no way anyone would see the Underworld Goddess version of Ironmouse and go "Yep, that's the same character." Hell, her initial, free avatar was more recognizable as her. Zen's switch from dragon to Cyborg is equally as unrecognizable.

I'd also say that Pikamee is up there in terms of redesigns just completely changing changing the feel of her from her previous models.

>>39732585
How face blind are you that you think those look the same?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 05:30:14 No.39770959 Report

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>>39728041
If I ever tried to become a vtuber, I would have loved to have his old design. What a damn waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 05:30:55 No.39770980 Report

Quoted By: >>39770991 >>39773296

... I like Flare old lizard face..

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 05:31:15 No.39770989 Report

Quoted By:

>>39728041
Yeah it's up there

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 05:31:26 No.39770991 Report

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>>39770980
It was kinda cute in a way.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 06:03:51 No.39772223 Report

Quoted By: >>39786935

>>39764122
What, exactly, about the redesign is "emasculating"? He still looks very masculine, he just looks like a young fuckboy instead of a middle-aged man.

Whether you think that's better or worse is subjective, but his redesign has not made him a "bishie". He still looks like a muscular older brother figure next to the slender pretty boy types like Rikka, Miyabi, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 06:38:53 No.39773296 Report

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>>39770980
How dare you. That face was my favorite, and that voice…
>tfw you will never get Flare’s old singing voice back :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 06:40:24 No.39773343 Report

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>>39732651
He streams....a lot. Like a stupid amount. Think Kaela/Koyori.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 06:45:15 No.39773489 Report

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>>39751197
on the one hand,
sex
on the other hand
SEX

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 07:09:35 No.39774193 Report

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>>39764122
I think he just wanted a younger model as he's not that old and doesn't really like larping as older man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 09:10:43 No.39777533 Report

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>>39728041
For a man, it's up there

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 09:41:07 No.39778293 Report

Quoted By: >>39778938

>>39728041
Which is the re-design? I guess it makes sense he got older.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 10:12:53 No.39778938 Report

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>>39778293
His old model is on the right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 11:28:54 No.39781603 Report

Quoted By:

>>39728041
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 11:42:18 No.39782290 Report

Quoted By: >>39787071 >>39790070

>>39751197
>>39751619
>>39752083
>>39752501
>>39770813
kill yourselves pedos

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 13:10:41 No.39786935 Report

Quoted By: >>39796442

>>39772223
>He still looks very masculine, he just looks like a young fuckboy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 13:13:33 No.39787071 Report

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>>39782290
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 14:26:45 No.39790070 Report

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>>39782290
Die whore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 15:56:36 No.39793548 Report

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>>39728041
I could have lived with something in between the two, keep the facial proportions the same but go younger, maybe a bit less zoomershit as far as outfit style goes, but I just can't bring myself to like this redesign.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 17:00:05 No.39795922 Report

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>goes from having one of the most gorgeous designs to Veibae with a wig

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 17:07:51 No.39796288 Report

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>>39770813
Is there a lazier answer than this one, probably by the same person every time these threads show up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 17:10:57 No.39796442 Report

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>>39786935
If you think his new model looks feminine, you might want to get your eyes checked dude
https://twitter.com/arurandeisu/status/1606288847733551104

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Dec 2022 17:56:51 No.39798331 Report

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>>39769752
Will anything ever come close to Mousey's first model?

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