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Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 18:46:28 No.41376037 View View Reply Original Report

Was Myth a good gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 18:47:38 No.41376072 Report

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No, they poisoned the hobby on this side of the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 19:02:56 No.41376734 Report

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>>41376037
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 19:07:40 No.41376944 Report

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>>41376037
Yes. Emphasis on
>was

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 19:07:52 No.41376953 Report

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>>41376037
Gen, as in group of people? No. Gen, as in 5 people to make Vtubing known in western market? Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 19:10:09 No.41377057 Report

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No they lucked out on the Covid internet boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 19:14:10 No.41377258 Report

Quoted By: >>41384062

They were a good gen. Too bad Kiara is the only one these days who likes her job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 19:33:45 No.41378204 Report

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>>41376037
No, yes, Maybe depending if she survives this year, no, no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 19:37:02 No.41378370 Report

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Was Jerry West a good basketball player

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 19:41:06 No.41378554 Report

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>>41376037
They were the best among english speaking non-corpo willing-to-work-for-cover vtubers at the time. You have to remember a lot of newer vtubers are better streamers or entertainers but they weren't streaming then, because people with actual talent weren't looking to get into "pretend to be an anime girl" until they realized there was a market for it.

But obviously as time goes on you see the 'pioneers' for what they were, which is semi-talented, lazy whores who got lucky that japanese people actually do their jobs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 20:45:06 No.41381564 Report

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>>41376037

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 20:47:26 No.41381669 Report

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>>41376037
Yup a real dream team of uniquely talented individuals

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:06:26 No.41382524 Report

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>>41376037
They were the pioneers of EN vtubing, anon. Nothing more, but nothing less either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:11:51 No.41382760 Report

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>>41376037
They were lightning in a bottle and probably one of the strongest gens ever.
And then management fucked everything up by not using their momentum and blocking them at every corner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:18:44 No.41383065 Report

Quoted By: >>41383184

Myth is like if (insert iconic sports figure here) had a kid and that kid was hyped up to be the next big thing. The kid fails to live up to expectations and fades away into obscurity.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:21:07 No.41383184 Report

Quoted By: >>41383448

>>41383065
But even the girls themselves had no expectations.
One of Ames goals pre-debut was just getting a 100k subs, Kiara admitted she didnt think Hololive would be taking up so much time and originally planned to just do the minimum as per the terms of their contract.
I'd say they lived up their expections and surpassed them, they just wound up burning out, possibly on account of their follow up EN gen being so weak and lazy, thus forcing Myth to keep it going when most of them needed some kind of a break.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:22:19 No.41383230 Report

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>>41376037
Good individual members, terrible as a cohesive unit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:24:36 No.41383334 Report

Quoted By: >>41383538 >>41384245

Hmmmm tough question to answer.
They really had no chemistry with each other. Sure you had amesame and "takamori" but honestly even these collabs always felt like there was a large gap between them.
Mori treated Kiara like she was ashamed to be streaming with her and Ame kinda didn't really add much to guras dynamic.
Ina didn't really add anything period.

But they were all uniquely talented in their own ways

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:24:54 No.41383347 Report

Quoted By: >>41387249

>>41378554
I don't really think there are better vtubers. Most of the good ones got in early. A lot of the people you see getting into it now are very low spec.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:25:17 No.41383363 Report

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>>41376037
It has Mori so no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:27:09 No.41383448 Report

Quoted By: >>41383538 >>41387336

>>41383184
The bar moved when they were bombarded with subs, money and views. They were supposed to be the next big thing and they fell very short of that expectation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:29:05 No.41383538 Report

Quoted By: >>41383791

>>41383448
>Get a lot of subs, views and money
>This is somehow not a criteria for being the next big thing
Then what the fuck is?
>>41383334
This I agree with, it was always Kiara that got them together for those group collabs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:32:27 No.41383653 Report

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>>41376037
What's to love?
Mori - attitude, loves rap, hates idols
Ina - doesn't stream,Middle school sense of yabai, boring , can draw
Gura - retarded, fakes being retarded, doesn't stream
Kiara - Stacy with no energy match
Ame - Doesn't stream, awkward collabs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:33:17 No.41383690 Report

Quoted By: >>41384325

imagine if EN never got Gura

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:33:49 No.41383707 Report

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>>41376037
there hasnt been a single good gen (in any vtubing company, not just hololive) since holoJP gen 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:36:08 No.41383791 Report

Quoted By: >>41386301

>>41383538
You must be a Myth only viewer. Myth was trending to be the next Gen 3 but they're basically JP Gen 2 now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:43:26 No.41384062 Report

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>>41377258
If any of them hated their jobs at least one of them would have already graduated. There are specific issues that Myth seems to be trying to fix now so there won't be graduations later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:47:52 No.41384245 Report

Quoted By: >>41403836

>>41383334
They had amazing chemistry for the first year or so.
They wee forced to work together with no help from management and got really close.
Now things are different and they are drifting apart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:50:02 No.41384325 Report

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>>41383690
It would have been a million times better because Chumbuds would have ended up watching Nijis instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:55:29 No.41384542 Report

Quoted By: >>41384703

>>41384325
baffling post

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:56:59 No.41384581 Report

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Was, the lack of unity recently and Gura’s absence kinda kills the whole thing for me. Even when they did collab it just felt forced recently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 21:59:59 No.41384703 Report

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>>41384542
Explain

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 22:08:50 No.41385077 Report

Quoted By: >>41386699

>>41376037
Kiara Ina Gura are ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 22:12:22 No.41385236 Report

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>>41376037
Together they are less than the sum of their parts but they all have their field of talents individually and many of them share a close connection with one another anyways, especially Kiara. The only reason it might look bad is because Gura has always done her own thing, whether it involved others or not, and most of the attention was on her, so mostly chumbuds are the ones crying about the state of Myth right now since their oshi is trapped in the mold monster that's been growing under her bed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 22:34:39 No.41386301 Report

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>>41383791
That doesnt negate their previous accolades.
Youre just grasping as shit to whine about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 22:44:00 No.41386699 Report

Quoted By: >>41391649

>>41385077
>gura
Nah. She doesn't even do her job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 22:45:05 No.41386737 Report

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>>41376037
AMELIA WATSON
Known for:
>rage, latinx, le creatividad
GAWR GURA
>a, shork, cunny
NINOMAE INA’NIS
>drawing, comfy, huge futa cock
TAKANASHI KIARA
>esl, menhera as fuck, loves jap pussy
CALLIOPE MORI
>Raper, shotacon, single-handedly ruining English vtubing
BY OUR POWERS COMBINED! WE ARE HOLOLIVE MYTH!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 22:49:44 No.41386945 Report

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They were. Past tense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 22:55:40 No.41387249 Report

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>>41383347
This. A lot of the good Vtubers did it out of passion, like Suisei.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 22:57:22 No.41387336 Report

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>>41383448
>they fell very short
No they didn't. They hit the mark and surpassed it. They WERE the big thing for a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 23:15:32 No.41388130 Report

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>used to be a big Myth fanboy
>2+ years later
>my oshi is in NijiEN and all the other chuubas I watch are indies and small corpos

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 23:30:57 No.41388815 Report

Quoted By: >>41388868 >>41389055

>>41376037
if Gura knew how to carry them, like Coco or Pekora did with their gens, maybe. But sadly she's too much of a lazy whore who hates streaming to do that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 23:32:09 No.41388868 Report

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>>41388815
>Pekora
Marine is the closest thing Gen 3 has to a leader and Noel was the one carrying at the very start

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 23:36:52 No.41389055 Report

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>>41388815
>The big numbers one should carry the rest
It doesnt work that way and I dont even like Gura.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Jan 2023 23:59:14 No.41390382 Report

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I was a huge myth fan for a while and seeing what the EN vtuber sphere looks like now it makes me amazed any one of them even got hired.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 00:17:32 No.41391649 Report

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>>41386699
Ina didn't do her job for months too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 00:56:20 No.41394139 Report

Quoted By: >>41405852

>>41376037
Only until Council.
After it got exposed they really aren't friends.
>Gura only collabs out SNOT.
>Ina got her nepotism friend in because she had nobody.
>Everyone ignored Kiara except Amelia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 01:11:00 No.41395408 Report

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>>41376037
Yes, the best gen actually. I miss their collabs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 02:22:34 No.41402982 Report

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>>41376037
they were

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 02:32:18 No.41403836 Report

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>>41384245
Honestly no. They really didn't. Council has better chemistry together than myth ever did. I thought the same for a long time but when council debuted and so did other corporations it became glaringly obvious that these girls had next to nothing in common with each other and that being friends before hololive didn't necessarily translate to chemistry on stream.
The few times they got together for events it'd involve at least one of them fading into the background, sometimes it was ina, sometimes it was gura.
It's hard to explain but looking back it feels so stilted and not really free flowing. It feels like people who were told to be friends by their managers but after they got done streaming couldn't wait to go back to doing their own thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 02:44:05 No.41404902 Report

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>>41376037
The thing about Myth is that they were the perfect thing at the perfect time, a fucking powerhouse who could've shaken the foundations of ENVtubers even more leaving such a legendary mark, the rapper, the idol, la creatividad incarnated, A fucking S tier artist and the textbook definition of cunny..... but they all had issues to resolve that pushed them back A LOT
Mori
>Didn't care about senpais, whined about not collabing with critikal on stream, didn't care about her genmates and was a headache to be with in collabs
Kiara
>She was desperate for attention after failing so fucking hard on her idol stuff(she talked about this so get off my dick jannies), the least liked in her last idol group and also the least liked in Myth, that took a toll on her and made her ME ME ME 100 times worse
Ame
>Before the tempiss her own teamates were complaining on how abrassive she've become, how she would rage quit streams after like 50 mins of playing and being an overall bitch
Ina
>She was a fucking mess, the definition of womanchild, she had to take many months off to recover
Gura
>She is such a social autist that she dropped most of her holo friendships by ghosting them even if her initial goal was to make friends in Hololive because she was a firendless mess.
On paper they were god's chosens, but in reality they were too broken to live up to the expectations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 02:49:42 No.41405321 Report

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>>41376037
Now that the dust has settled you have to say it's been the most destructive gen in hololive history. Almost single-handedly destroyed vtubing in the west.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 02:55:43 No.41405852 Report

Quoted By: >>41407327

>>41394139
they had the right set of talents to make the group stand out and get a massive audience. It's due to that that 4 of the 5 are all autists who can't hold natural conversations with each other for longer then 5 minutes. Council are the average talent- high social skill normie types that EN needs in order to create a sense of unity because otherwise it's up to Kiara to herd the autistic cats all alone from her side of the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 03:14:39 No.41407327 Report

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>>41405852
This anon actually makes sense. Council was THE streamer gen for HoloEN that's perfect follow-up to an explosive first-gen like Myth. In Myth the only consistent streamer is Kiara (Yes yes, Mori streams alot too but her schedule is too erratic and she has music stuff). In Council there's Bae, Fauna and pre-bane Sana. While Fauna streams less than Mori, she still streams most days and always on the dot.

While I think Tempus is a miscalculation on management's part, you can still clearly see that they're an attempt expand market of possible new viewers. Irregardless of their actual success, we can expect HoloEN's next attempt to expand the market is EN3, and the 5 new girls would cater more niche new viewers. And I understand the delays because it's tough to find enough females that are embedded in these niches that aren't already visible figures with enough success of their own or aren't autistic femcels too terrified to even audition or stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 03:14:59 No.41407352 Report

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>>41376037
It was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Jan 2023 03:19:23 No.41407648 Report

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>>41376037
I think for the first few months, possibly the first year they were. They were humble and they wanted to prove themselves...but the overwhelming success went to their heads. Mori used to be this girl who would cry getting a red supa, now she just acts like she was always on top of the world. The rest of the girls have just gotten lazier, save for Kiara who has continued to grind away but just never gets as much recognition.

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