>>41683615Which parts are untrue? I'd like to see a single part that is not true. You just seem in denial.
>Oliver and Reza were on different branches so they weren't part of EN collabs.Fact. EN collabs are by definition EN only collabs. So ID weren't part of them.
>They had their own communities and kept their distance from EN.Fact. Oliver was often invited to phasmo and a couple other games but he'd usually be called to fill a spot
>Their collabs were fairly limited. There would be a game they were going to play together or there would be an interview. You'd rarely see them outside such specific contexts.Fact, the girls interacted very casually all the time, Oliver and Reza were never part of those random unplanned moments, but Luxiem/Noctyx/etc did join anytime for those
>You could watch NijiEN 99% of the time and neither of them would show up.Numerical exaggeration but gist of it is true. You are in blatant denial of reality if you want to pretend otherwise. Plenty of people watched NijiEN back then and dropped it.
>Luxiem, Noctyx and beyond were part of NijIEN so they were at branch collabs. Fact, already mentioned
>They were integrated in that community and their server so collabs with them became regular. Unplanned collabs with them are a regular thing.
Fact too, this is just a NijiEN thing and when the guys joined they became part of it. Oliver and Reza wouldn't be randomly joining EN collabs.
>They made a habit of randomly joining girls on their streams. They joined them on their off collabs.I watched a ton of NijiEN Lazulight/Obsydia/Ethyria content and never saw Reza or Oliver randomly join a girl's stream but I saw Luxiem do that a lot in the short time I coexisted with them.
>They would interact on a regular basis and flirt on stream giving us ships like Reimu x Vox or Enna x Kyou.Fact, never saw Reza or Oliver have a ship like those either.
>For a diehard NO MALES ON STREAM, EVER, IF MY MAIDEN INTERACTS WITH A MALE SHE'S DEAD crowd Oliver and Reza or even some twitch male indies that also interacted with NijiEN before Luxiem would be too much.This is a fact too and seeing you randomly go on about relationships with streamers when they weren't ever brought up really tells me you think it's all 0% of 100%.
People either ship themselves with a vtuber or they enjoy males on their streams. Evidence shows that's not true, plenty of indies and small corpos navigate that line.
Things aren't HoloJP GFE or NijiEN, there's room in the middle.
>You can look at HoloEN as an example of a similar contrast. There are guys on the side branch and they have had a few collabs but it's not comparable to NijiEN yet either.The guys are still in their own branch, most of the girls don't interact with them and their presence so far at least is still limited to a few collabs.
These are facts too. People following HoloEN already know that Ame and Kronii will interact with the males and give them the middle finger. They are either ok with it or they drop them. But Ame and Kronii don't interact with any of the stars as regularly as NijiEN females and NijiEN males do.
The male tolerance needed to enjoy NijiEN is much higher than HoloEN needs.
NijiEN before Luxiem debuted was like a light rain a few days in a month, you just listen to the forecast and carry an umbrella and it's fine, you can avoid getting wet. After Luxiem's debut there can be a heavy rain any day of the week without warning, most days it rains.
>>41683657Hell yeah, we had some good times. All good things eventually end but I am glad I was there for the Lauzlight/Obsydia days.
>>41683658Yeah Ethyria didn't have the same atmosphere, really didn't like it but could tolerate it.
>>41683855I heard the new gyaru blonde is great but I'm not gonna bother going back to NijiEN, it's not for me.
