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Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:20:18 No.44266162 View View Reply Original Report

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Come on...you can't seriously expect me to believe this.
You don't even get to 1 hour considering talking segments and merch shilling and some of the songs barely have any choreography.
Then an actual sololive that is close to 3 hours of actual performing takes 1.5 years to get done?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lPE4muv5cc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:25:12 No.44266438 Report

Quoted By: >>44268553 >>44270597

Then we have the company, some of the holos and many users here talk about their quality as performers and idols.
Well, real idols do a tens of concerts in a 6 months period, all way over an hour. And they do them live and often without lip-syncing.
Holos do mini-concerts like a kid pretending to ride a bike but is actually riding a tricycle with 2 extra small wheels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:27:18 No.44266545 Report

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>>44266162
They aren't going to be in a perfect linear relationship. Rehearsing the songs/dance routines etc. will be directly proportional to prep time but creating merch, schedules, locations etc. etc. is going to be a similar time where the concert lasts 30 minutes or 3 hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:30:02 No.44266667 Report

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>>44266162
>hi pegora can you appear in my concert later this year?
>uhh I'll get back to you pego
>few month passes
>i'm too busy that day sorry pego!
this counts as few months of prep time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:31:40 No.44266748 Report

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>>44266162
If you only practice like 1hour at weak then take 3 month of practice to learn at choreography but you need time to reserve the day of concernt and like you said the merch take time too (depends what kind of merch if something poorly like ninjisanji pins so one month for it its enough time)

>Also
Yes I believe you are so retard and this isnt shitposting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:31:49 No.44266756 Report

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We can expect many more threads like this as fes approaches

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:32:26 No.44266784 Report

Quoted By: >>44266845 >>44266868

It a usual lie that every vtuber say to her fanbase, to make it like they work hard and are all about their vtuber life, but the real reason is to keep unicorns and retards believing that they don't have a life outside vtubing.

All of them are women with lots of money and with a lot of free time, so obviously they spend their time with friends, partying,with their boyfriends or husband, sometime even their kids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:33:43 No.44266845 Report

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>>44266784
Keep projecting your Western retardation. Japanese women are pure and don't do that shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:34:03 No.44266868 Report

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>>44266784
their friends, boyfriends, husbands & kids? all me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:34:58 No.44266918 Report

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>>44266162
>The back and forth with management on what to put in the show
>The process of getting all the guests together and also prepping their material (especially if they’re enlisting the help of someone like an EN)
>Booking studio time for rehearsals, recording, etc
>engineering the prerecorded performances to make them listenable (for some holos)
Reckon it’s the paperwork shenanigans, over indulgence and jap autism that take a considerable amount of time
id imagine they could just do something more stripped down with their original material and fully live to save the time and recording sessions but.. I don’t know if there’s too many holos who can do that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:43:52 No.44267330 Report

Quoted By: >>44267945

Miko says in the clip that she her workload nowadays is 50% streaming 50% non-streaming which puts her at around 30 hours per week.
But funny enough she is in the upper-middle in numbers of hours streamed and, i don't have an insider knowledge, but by my impression she does equal or more sponsor, merch, shill work than any other holo so this must certainly mean that most other holos put less than 30 hours per week, maybe closer to 20 hours.
Hololive truly is a very well remunerated part-time job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:46:38 No.44267457 Report

Quoted By: >>44268001 >>44270013

>>44266162
Is true. Especially when you have to memorize everything in between dancing and singing and asian autism about things needed to be perfect. Plus they need to tell their government in advance and get okay for the concert which takes months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:47:28 No.44267495 Report

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>>44266162
Several months sure but half a fucking year sorry Miko that's a fucking lie, perfect example would be Coco's graduation or hell any graduation, contracts are normal signed for a year and most talent aren't going to wait midway through a year to not reup they'll know by the end of the last months or so before the reup, yet we had time for her to go through the China arc AND prep for her 3D live? not buying it even gen4 said they only had 3 months knowledge advanced than the viewers.

If it took half a year that wouldn't make sense for all the lives that get canceled or moved back because they'd been recording them months in advance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:49:52 No.44267604 Report

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ITT: Anons discover what lead times are

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:56:44 No.44267945 Report

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>>44267330
>but by my impression she does equal or more sponsor, merch, shill work than any other holo
Your impression is terrible

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:57:39 No.44268001 Report

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>>44267457
>Plus they need to tell their government in advance and get okay for the concert which takes months.
Anon, she's talking about Youtube-only 3D lives.
And memorizing everything is false too since they're recording at different sessions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 22:59:50 No.44268106 Report

Quoted By: >>44269155

There are 35 girls in jp
Only one studio. Is not like they use it for a few hours and the next comes in.
A girl or group of girls will take the whole studio for herslef for the whole day and just for on session.
They reqlly need to finish the new studio.by yesterday

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:00:29 No.44268140 Report

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>>44266162
I'm sure we'll have many experienced people in the entertainment industry posting in this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:03:52 No.44268302 Report

Quoted By: >>44274575

>Miko says half a year of prep work
>Anon believes it's half a year of full time studio preproduction

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:08:42 No.44268553 Report

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>>44266438
>Holos do mini-concerts like a kid pretending to ride a bike but is actually riding a tricycle with 2 extra small wheels.
I'm fucking dying
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:11:16 No.44268691 Report

Quoted By: >>44270774 >>44273776

>>44266162
Think about all of the workers involved in making one of these. You've got:
>producers
>directors/coordinators
>musicians
>songwriters
>audio engineers
>people who manage the software involved
>people making 3D models and outfits
>people making 3D effects
>motion tracking people and the dancers they hire
>advertisers
>promoters
>social media bullshit
>not to mention the talents themselves
There's a lot that I'm missing here but you get the idea. Each of these things takes time to get working properly and not everything is happening in sync. I think the live show that Ironmouse did a while back took like 2 years to put together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:20:46 No.44269155 Report

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>>44268106
Meanwhile on EN side you've got Ame building her own studio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:25:56 No.44269417 Report

Quoted By: >>44269638

>>44266162
Miko is not a fulltime idol so she can't spend as much time practicing dancing and singing. Regular idols don't stream long hours many times a week like her nor have a say on the merch, songs, etc they release.
Holomems are more self-managed than regular idols, stream a lot (at least most of jp) and also take into account they have like one 3D studio to film the live and if you invite 12 guests then you have to learn like 6 dances, plus the songs she's gonna sing by herself, etc.
So yeah, it can take 6 months, and that can be because of the studio alone as she has said you really need to prepare 3D stuff like half a year before because the studio booking is insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:30:32 No.44269638 Report

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>>44269417
>Miko is not a fulltime idol so she can't spend as much time...
Because she is busy working her fulltime job, math teacher?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:32:19 No.44269729 Report

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>>44269638
You know how to write but not how to read. Interesting.

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Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:33:38 No.44269791 Report

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>>44266162
you all are fucking morons. please. like you guys are genuine fucking retards. all of you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:37:52 No.44270013 Report

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>>44267457
Don't forget the autism about every one of those steps needing at least 3 meetings on top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:43:35 No.44270286 Report

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>>44266162
I mean, their game permissions guy went on vacation for months. Hololive loves their 3-month vacations so they're missing 1/4th of their staff at any given moment and have to wait for them to come back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:50:02 No.44270597 Report

Quoted By: >>44270740

>>44266438
>Well, real idols do a tens of concerts in a 6 months period, all way over an hour.
If the hololive talents just did their lives on the same shared generic stage with a single static camera and no effects, I'm sure they'd get a lot more lives done too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:52:56 No.44270740 Report

Quoted By: >>44271374

>>44270597
Well, they do in fact share all of the 3D backgrounds they use if you watch them, including the main stage with a little decoration that i doubt that much time to put and the holos aren't the ones doing it anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 Mar 2023 23:53:34 No.44270774 Report

Quoted By: >>44272427

>>44268691
Retards here don't know about the logistics needed to prepare for an event.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 00:05:09 No.44271374 Report

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>>44270740
They tend to use some shared stages for the anniversary and birthday lives, and I imagine those take a lot less time to produce. However, some of those as well as all sololives get brand new stages that have to be built from the ground up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 00:19:25 No.44272181 Report

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Miko works hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 00:23:32 No.44272427 Report

Quoted By: >>44272537

>>44270774
Yogiri did a 3D concert that was so much better than holofes that it started getting memed on how fucking awful it was, and that took 1 month. If they're taking that long then the entire staff of cover is complete dogshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 00:25:40 No.44272537 Report

Quoted By: >>44272707

>>44272427
Yeah, holofes can be prepared in like 1 month. Cover is incompetent. My The Chinese should manage hololive so that they can achieve the 1 month

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 00:28:35 No.44272707 Report

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>>44272537
They can take however long they want as long as the quality reflects that, not something from a third rate indie company

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 00:31:33 No.44272881 Report

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>>44269791
Well what you gonna expect? Moron gonna do a bad faith discussion by comparing something they don't even know just to justify their mental illness.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 00:48:12 No.44273776 Report

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>>44268691
The more collab the longer it gets. I mean, umisea for example. There’s 5 people that have to go to 1 place at the same time to have good concert.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 01:03:46 No.44274575 Report

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>>44268302
kek. Usual /vt/ retardation

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Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 01:10:53 No.44274980 Report

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>>44266845
You ain't a gook, you're a mutt nigger AT BEST. Keep seething subhuman

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 02:22:33 No.44278774 Report

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>>44266162
Believe it

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Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 02:52:05 No.44280640 Report

Quoted By: >>44280710 >>44282115

If you're reading this, Broadway performances take more than that to prepare, so I'm not fazed by that statement. Months of preparation for 2-2.5 hrs of performances is pretty common. Then you got to do those performances everyday 2-3 times a day for several weeks. Musicals and plays are genuinely a beautiful performance but are a slog to prepare for. There's also the fact that things can go horribly wrong (e.g. sickness, injury, accidents on set, nobody comes).

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Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 02:52:59 No.44280710 Report

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>>44280640
but anon how dare you put logic into the board that evokes gossip

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 02:53:20 No.44280729 Report

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>>44266162
EOP faggot, you should know Japanese really like their paperworks and meetings bullshit. If something can be done over the phone, they will do it in person to "show respect", only the pandemic was able to nerf that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 02:57:52 No.44281112 Report

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It takes six months because it takes six months. Not because the amount of work, effort and coordination involved actually constitutes six months worth of full or even part time work for those involved but because that's the timeline that those people have allocated to it from "hey I want to book the studio for my birthday" "yeah cool I'll let you know to performance.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 02:59:47 No.44281318 Report

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>44280710
Dude I know that. That's why I've [REDACTED] the thread in order to prevent more bumps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 04 Mar 2023 03:05:40 No.44282115 Report

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>>44280640
Comparing a Broadway production from casting to curtains opening night to a mocapped performance in unreal that's half to a third the length is retarded.
t. theatrecunt

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