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Sayu of the Pitch-Black Void (真黒)

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 04:16:32 No.45093806 View View Reply Original Report

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How it ended the first time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkNVJLXLH8U
https://twitter.com/shylilytwitch/status/1579988349989052416

How it ended the second time:
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1634147534795841536
https://twitter.com/AcmekdKun/status/1635444341165674496

What should Sayu do upon redebuting as 真黒?
Bottle it all up? Never speak a word about all the pain, the shame, the disgraced reputation?
Speak up and share her side of things, cautious not to break NDA?
Speak up and share her side of things, going all-out and breaking NDA? Threaten to subpoena Nijisanji livers for defamation?
Anonymously drop a pastebin somewhere, then redebut as if nothing happened?

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 04:17:35 No.45093859 Report

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>>45093806
Scorched Earth strat

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 04:26:27 No.45094340 Report

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>>45093806
Initially I thought it's best to redebut and not speak of anything, but evidently it's no longer possible with the severe smear campaign going on. I really don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 04:29:25 No.45094478 Report

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>>45094340
I really want her to redebut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 04:35:39 No.45094769 Report

Quoted By: >>45097547 >>45101422

Kind of sad all the dramatubers are siding with Niji even though they tried to kill their channels only a few weeks ago. Surely the company trying to sniffle free-speech would never mistreat their employees and slander them...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 05:40:28 No.45097547 Report

Quoted By: >>45100026 >>45103503

>>45094769
Yeah just noticed a new video from that sheep dramafag about Zai's "gaslighting", and of course he's liking comments supporting Finana
Absolutely mental, not a single one of those retards looked at the situation critically

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 05:43:43 No.45097704 Report

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Despite everything people are saying I feel so convinced that Sayu is a good person. It feels strange that everyone sees her as this horrible and toxic streamer, yet I have never seen this present anywhere. Other Indies seemed to love her before, she freely interacted with her fans in the discord and is just fairly chill on stream. Think that has bothered me the most since this drama started.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 05:45:16 No.45097775 Report

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>>45093806
colony drop NijiEN

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 06:39:40 No.45099790 Report

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>>45094478
I mean yeah, me too. I meant the part about her speaking about stuff. Nijisisters will continue hounding her until she gives an actual defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 06:46:58 No.45100026 Report

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>>45097547
Why don't YOU look at the situation critically? NijiEN has 29 other livers that are able to stream multiple times a week without having to private their VODs or run afoul of management. Hpw anybody can honestly, non-shitpostingly believe that the problem is with the company and not the individual - who signed a contract to abide by certain terms and conditions, btw - is beyond me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 06:55:03 No.45100344 Report

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>>45100026
Why are you people always trying argue why she was fired (which no one really has a problem with) instead of how she got fired?
She got tarred, feathered, demonized and doxxed by everyone around her with no way to defend herself.
So fucking disingenuous I swear

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 07:09:10 No.45100859 Report

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>>45100344
>She got tarred, feathered, demonized and doxxed by everyone around her with no way to defend herself.
So providing a reason for her termination is tarring and feathering now? It's called closure, and they did it for the sake of transparency, for the fans that aren't terminally /here/ or suckling at the teat of dramatubers.

As for doxxing, pleasure show me just ONE example of ANY of her co-workers or management doxxing her. Do you even know what doxxing means? She was fully doxxed before she even graduated from her PL.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 07:25:43 No.45101422 Report

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>>45094769
They would have terminated Zaion earlier, but they needed to use scare tactics to bring the dramatubers to their side first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 07:28:30 No.45101504 Report

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>>45093806
Monitoring for more Sayu activity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 07:39:45 No.45101847 Report

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>>45100026
Not that many of her VODs were privated. Millie had worse troubles with bad actions and privating during her early days and Kyo is still privating his VODs when his inflammatory dramabaiting backfires. A good chunk of Zaion's VODs, the ones not in her initial streams, were only taken down after her suspension was announced, when the awful and vague phrasing attacking her for unstated jokes lead to a witchhunt that combed through her VODs for things to be mad about, leading to more getting taken down.
>>45100859
Retard.
>reasons for termination
They tacted on completely bullshit, petty things that were obviously not contributory. A joke about raid shadow legends sponserships was enough to make the list according to NijiEN and some of the bulletpoints are just vague statements about other infractions which must be even less notable than that or else they'd have tried to mention them as directly as well. The entire thing is laughable. They also tried to cite things she started to do in preparation for her exit after her leaving NijiEN was already decided, just to try to kick her while she's down. Unbelievably petty.
And even the things that seem more notable are hypocritical as they are seen in many, many other streamers in NijiEN. Throwing her to the wolves for jokes? Ones that her coworkers have already made? Disgusting.
>As for doxxing, pleasure show me just ONE example of ANY of her co-workers or management doxxing her
lol nice goalpost moving. He didn't even say that. But it is funny you go to her coworkers because we do know her coworker had joined in the attacks against her even during her suspension, before she decided she needed to leave NijiEN. So much for NijiEN being against harassment.
>Do you even know what doxxing means? She was fully doxxed before she even graduated from her PL.
Lurk more, rabid NijiEN fans were posting her full name, address, phone numbers etc. What the hell more do you want, them to post her SSN too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 08:20:19 No.45103067 Report

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>>45101847
>A good chunk of Zaion's VODs, the ones not in her initial streams, were only taken down after her suspension was announced, when the awful and vague phrasing attacking her for unstated jokes lead to a witchhunt that combed through her VODs for things to be mad about, leading to more getting taken down.
Nice headcanon but that's simply not true lol. Also, Millie and Kyo obviously learned from their mistakes and stopped doing whatever management smacked them down for, Zaion clearly did not.
>They tacted on completely bullshit, petty things that were obviously not contributory
I didn't know we had a company insider that knows the ins-and-outs of managerial decisions posting among us. How else would you know for certain what was contributory and what was not?
> A joke about raid shadow legends sponserships was enough to make the list according to NijiEN and some of the bulletpoints are just vague statements about other infractions which must be even less notable than that or else they'd have tried to mention them as directly as well.
So you're criticizing them for vague statements while deriving her sponsorship joke from... a vague statement. OK.
>They also tried to cite things she started to do in preparation for her exit after her leaving NijiEN was already decided
You don't know when it was decided.
>He didn't even say that
>>She got tarred, feathered, demonized and doxxed by everyone around her
Who else would "everyone around her" imply, retard?
>rabid NijiEN fans were posting her full name, address, phone numbers etc
Not disproving my point, all of this info was known before Zaion even existed.

Try again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 08:20:29 No.45103075 Report

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>>45093806
>Speak up and share her side of things, cautious not to break NDA?
I think weaving in her perspective and some truths P.T.-style in her new lore would be enough to tell her side of the story
Anything more concrete would just fuel the harassment campaign again and she would not hear the end of it
I also highly doubt she wishes any real harm on Niji people
She has direct contact with them, she can clear up misunderstandings privately if need be and ask them to stop sending their rabid fanbases her way
I trust her to make a right call and to move forward after the debut

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 08:30:03 No.45103370 Report

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>45103067
>OK.
I accept your concession. I know it is tough to admit you were wrong, but the important thing is that you learned from your mistake. I'm glad you agree that Zaion was an innocent victim that did not deserve the treatment she received (and is still receiving).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 08:32:41 No.45103449 Report

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>>45094478
It will happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 08:34:44 No.45103503 Report

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>>45097547
Why would they? Dramatubers just want to keep the drama going for as long as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 08:35:00 No.45103507 Report

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>>45103370
Nice try, Holobrony but you need to lurk more before you attempt to argue with me again. Back to the cuckshed with you, I’m sure it won’t be long before some new “””yab””” draws you out again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 08:36:38 No.45103560 Report

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>>45099790
Retarded Nijifans won't care about the truth. They don't know, why would they care if she said it?

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 08:38:07 No.45103607 Report

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>>45103507
Continue playing your part in her future success nijisis

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 08:40:26 No.45103648 Report

Quoted By: >>45103689 >>45107362

She have friends in many places
https://youtu.be/pxJqev8i7IE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 08:42:28 No.45103689 Report

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>>45103648
Yeah, me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 08:44:33 No.45103747 Report

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>>45103067
>Zaion clearly did not.
Show me the repeat offenses

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 08:44:42 No.45103754 Report

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>>45103067
>Nice headcanon but that's simply not true lol. Also, Millie and Kyo obviously learned from their mistakes and stopped doing whatever management smacked them down for, Zaion clearly did not.
Yeah she should have been fake like Enna and waited for a bit. https://streamable.com/51juoi
>So you're criticizing them for vague statements while deriving her sponsorship joke from... a vague statement. OK.
It's ok if management does it.
>You don't know when it was decided.
Her Streamlabs went down days before the notice was posted. If you take away her rice bowl it's a clear indication.
>Not disproving my point, all of this info was known before Zaion even existed.
Just because she has been doxxed before doesn't mean she can't be doxxed again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:11:37 No.45104464 Report

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>>45099790
>Nijisisters will continue hounding her until she gives an actual defense.
The weird thing about all this is that she has not really been accused of anything worth hounding anyone about. So she can't really give a good defense when everything against her is pure innuendo without substance.
>Muh gaslighting.
Uuuuuhhhhhhhh, you mean about her own personal business when asked? Why would anyone care?
>Muh jokes.
Not targeting any group unlike Enna the chicken eater. They tried to pin her for a few passing comments but they don't stick as actual joke sor steretypes attacking any group of people.
So what is this actually about in the end? Tribalism, literally just us vs. them. Zaion was labeled an outsider and must be destroyed to protect the group, that is all.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:15:00 No.45104557 Report

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latest mutual

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:22:39 No.45104778 Report

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>>45104464
It's scary when you think about it. You don't even need to break any of the "unwritten rules" of being online for a hate campaign to happen these days. Any comment that is at worst "in bad taste" can be spun as the spark to ignite a fire that a corporation or group wants to happen.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:25:14 No.45104856 Report

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>>45093806
She's so full of hope and optimism back in 2021... we failed protect this smile. Please let us hear your laugh once more...

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:27:34 No.45104936 Report

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>>45093806
She's so full of hope and optimism back in 2021... we failed protect this smile. Please let us hear your laugh once more...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:32:24 No.45105102 Report

Quoted By: >>45107322 >>45110204

>>45093806
She's so full of hope and optimism back in 2021... we failed protect this smile. Please let us hear your laugh once more...

Fuck I can't get soundposts to work https://streamable.com/gmgnyo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:53:29 No.45105755 Report

Quoted By: >>45105860

>>45100026
i love zaion but she fucked up and anons have difficult to accept that. she clearly didnt like being in a corpo and thats why she wasnt willing to change, because it means she would need to change herself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:54:39 No.45105797 Report

Quoted By: >>45105880

>>45093806
>Speak up and share her side of things, cautious not to break NDA?
What are the actual, real world implications of her breaking NDA now she's no longer with the company? Niji is a JP company and she's an American (I assume) citizen. Can they sue her? Would such a thing even go to court or have any ramifications?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:56:53 No.45105860 Report

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>>45105755
Fuck off sister. Seriously, just fuck off. Nobody wants your scripted therapy here. You have zero justification to keep running this hate campaign against her. She was fired, time for you to stop.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:57:19 No.45105870 Report

Quoted By: >>45105926 >>45105939 >>45105972 >>45106110

none of you faggots gave a fuck about her till you thought you could use her as ammunition against Nijisanji

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:57:43 No.45105880 Report

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>>45105797
Japanese corpo lawyers are as slimy as their american counterpart, they can find ways to fuck you over even outside their jurisdiction. The public humiliation is just the first step.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:59:23 No.45105926 Report

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>>45105870
Black companies fuck themselves over sister. They had a slam dunk firing and they made her into a martyr instead. Hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 09:59:52 No.45105939 Report

Quoted By: >>45106080

>>45105870
We literally had Zaion threads here right when she debuted.
She was clearly the most liked of the new gen here.
Not sure why Nijisisters can only lie and gaslight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 10:00:59 No.45105972 Report

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>>45105870
>actually started getting into Niji because of her
>was never against it before, just not really interested
For awhile I was watching exclusively other NijiEN streamers (including males) whenever Zaion wasn't streaming. When pressed to choose between her and them, though, the choice is obvious. I'll follow her wherever she goes.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 10:04:09 No.45106080 Report

Quoted By: >>45106214 >>45107355

>>45105939
They're all kpop stans prior to finding out about nijiEN, of course they're attuned with the ways of deception and disingenuous arguments. The next time their Luxnoc oshi gets fucked in the ass by the company, see how quickly they do a 180 and promptly Kyoani the anycolor HQ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 10:05:15 No.45106110 Report

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>>45105870
Soon reality itself will crumble under the force of your own denial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 10:08:23 No.45106214 Report

Quoted By: >>45108180

>>45106080
They all follow the same script even when they pretend to be her former fans, the whole female obsession with therapy and corporate slogans shines through:
>I am totally a fan of hers, but everyone offered her help, help I say! She was a bad fit for our corporate branding. She needs to revalue her life choices to change and grow from this career experience.
They are soulless automatons.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 10:51:24 No.45107322 Report

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>>45105102

Times have been rough for her throughout 2022.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 10:52:49 No.45107355 Report

Quoted By: >>45108282

>>45106080
fake Pomie kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 10:53:10 No.45107362 Report

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>>45103648
No one gives a fuck about EN VA.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 11:03:36 No.45107683 Report

Quoted By: >>45107794

What did she mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 11:06:43 No.45107794 Report

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>>45107683
She thinks her community is adorable and humorous

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 11:20:21 No.45108180 Report

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>>45106214
Keep coping sister. Maybe you'll get a gift card if you try enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 11:20:39 No.45108185 Report

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>>45093806
>Speak up and share her side of things, going all-out and breaking NDA?
Yes. She should tell us whether she's a nijispy sabotaging and responsible for most of the recent yabs or nijiEN is really incompetent and she's just icing on the cake.

I'm not surprised if the answer is both.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 11:23:48 No.45108282 Report

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>>45107355
I don't about him, but as a day 1 pomudachi I share the sentiment. Lazusydia was magical and then we got utterly replaced and terraformed. I have no interest in NijiEN anymore with the amount of bullshit both in-corp and in-fanbase it has currently.
My only hopes are eventually NijiEN has so many waves it segregates itself into cliques that don't interact with each other like in NijiJP (and Pomu drops Enna and the other assorted pieces of shit), and the newfag wave number 12345 fanbase becomes "Pomu who?" so I can enjoy Pomu in peace. That or waiting for her becoming indie again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 12:13:49 No.45110204 Report

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>>45105102
She'll be back and better than ever.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Mar 2023 12:31:53 No.45111168 Report

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>>45106110
sure thing, anytime soon

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