I'm sick of seeing this exact same thread appearing every fucking day on this board so I'm gonna essaypost to hopefully stop this dumb ass posting permanently. I got into this at the end of 2019, start of 2020, when it really started taking off for reference as an EOP.
>Clips and China
Hololive's success can entirely be attributed to the start of 2020 and early clips. I saw the same frequency of Hololive and Nijisanji clips at this beginning stage and enjoyed both of them without really knowing the difference. During this time though, there was a rise of a massive chink subbing group which reached like 250k subs at its peak before Taiwan, more than some Hololive members and the like at the time. This group essentially functioned as massive hub for content with multiple daily uploads but only for Hololive. This in turn caused a massive positive feedback loop for Hololive, due to the ease of checking this channel, when compared to the depths of random subbing channels. Other viral clips like Matsuri's and Miko's got people to look up Hololive and see this massive entity constantly putting out translations.
On the other side of the lane with Nijisanji, the largest channel I saw at the start of 2020 was approximately 20k subs for reference and was not putting out as much videos as HLM was.
>too Japanese
Sure, I'll admit that Nijisanji overall does not appeal to the average random EOP, but it doesn't change the fact that Nijisanji clips in the past reached high view counts, especially with everyone's favorite, Minecraft. However, this "too Japanese" argument is essentially covered in some sense of elitism of JSLs and their more exclusive group. I personally remember searching for Ars Almal over any Holo at the time cause I thought the stuff I saw of her was really entertaining, even being an EOP. However, the effort I needed to put into for finding Ars clips at the time was way harder than I wanted to do for some fun thing like vtubers, so I naturally went to HLM at the time.
>number of streamers
This is probably one of the more fundamental ones that people frequently argue about, and hopefully not up for too much debate. There's a lot of Nijisanji streamers. Is that a bad thing? No, not necessarily, but when most people's introductions at the start are from random clip recommendations, this "issue" really exemplifies itself. When you watch Hololive, you inevitably get more Hololive, same with Nijisanji. However, with Nijisanji, the average viewer is only gonna click on faces they recognize in the thumbnail. Hololive's smaller number makes it so all their faces are easily more noticeable and thus, people are more likely to click on things they already know about.
>Coco and Pandering
Coco alone probably helped ensure EOPs stayed invested in Hololive alone. Asacoco frequently had English subtitles that would give any slightly invested fan 20 minutes worth of content giving an update on the rest of Hololive, which is massive and an amazing funnel for dedicated fans. Coco herself having a knowledge of English also ensured that EOPs had at least a baseline to jump from to other Hololive member streams, as they could get some streamer interaction in often fairly cringe comments for new viewers. On top of this clips at this time of growth for Hololive often encouraged EOP and streamer interactions with the ever so funny boing boing Rushia topic, while comparatively I don't think I ever saw a clip that had a highlight of the streamer talking with EOPs.
>Nijisanji is a failure
No. They're doing just fine with what they're doing regardless of a Western audience which is fine.
At the end of the day, this topic is pointless and I fucking hate seeing this every day on this fucking board. You fuckers just want to start shit every single time when all of you anons got into this as a fun little hobby but now you spend your days talking about Nijisanji sucking compared to Hololive in the west. It's a stupid fucking topic as what's done is done at this point. Vtuber itself has become synonymous with Hololive in the West and there is nothing that can be done about it. Now watch whatever you want to watch, I don't care and neither should any of you fuckers.
