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Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:22:53 No.48502418 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>48502594 >>48502667 >>48503673 >>48503791 >>48505515 >>48506735 >>48509309 >>48509367 >>48510773 >>48511502 >>48518497

Maybe they wouldn't be in deep shit now if they actually held proper auditions for a Gen 2 instead of scamming everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:27:08 No.48502594 Report

Quoted By: >>48502632 >>48509309

>>48502418
This except HoloEN and EN3

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:28:06 No.48502632 Report

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>>48502594
T3MPUS
V4NGUARD

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:29:04 No.48502667 Report

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>>48502418
So what the fuck happened to Vshojo JP? Why do they only have two members? What was that "talent freedom" advertisement campaign in Tokyo about?
Was it seriously a ploy to poach members from hololive and nijisanji that failed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:29:46 No.48502696 Report

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>>48502667
It was a performance act for their investors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:37:50 No.48503056 Report

Quoted By: >>48511442

>>48502667
> Kson is friend with Melody, de facto coowner of V-Shojo.
> Melody was hungry for more she can chew and wanted to establish JP branch.
> Kson wanted to bounce back after leaving Hololive.
> They decided to work together but needed somebody else.
> Rushia things happened, Kson immediately grabbed her and poached into V-Shojo JP. completely disregarding what happened, Melody's retardness and V-Shojo's absolute lack of understanding Japanese market.
> The same market that Kson hates and did everything in her power to be loud about it, which scared away any potential further hires, investors and viewers.
> Also, Melody practically left her and Rushia/Mike/Nazuma with no support or prospect of development.

So you have two failed Hololive ex-members that may or may not be blacklisted from Japanese market, stuck in side branch of western company co-owned by literal cum-guzzling bimbo and bag seller. Fun times for everyone!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:39:38 No.48503141 Report

Quoted By: >>48503224 >>48511551

>>48502667
The advertisements were to raise awareness of the brand and get people to apply, which worked, but they are apparently not comfortable enough with any of them to sign any. Or they are but they're incredibly slow about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:41:45 No.48503224 Report

Quoted By: >>48503302 >>48511551

>>48503141
>there's people who actually believe this
Vshojo only signs up people that already have huge audiences. And no established JP except Kson is retarded enough to sign up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:43:45 No.48503302 Report

Quoted By: >>48503459 >>48511551

>>48503224
"Only signing people with large audiences" does not conflict with anything that I posted, thirdgradereadinglevelchama.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:45:36 No.48503382 Report

Quoted By: >>48505485 >>48505712 >>48508068 >>48509658

>>48502667
if kson wanted to poach holos (she doesn't) she could just talk to them irl or on discord, she wouldn't need ads in the subway or a livestream for that lol
pika is very obviously joining vsjp, not sure who else though
gotta agree that ad campaign was the one of the weirdest and stupidest things i've seen in vtubing though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:47:28 No.48503459 Report

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>>48503302
It does tho if you realize that no established Japanese Vchuuba will get into business with western company with no influence in Japan outside hiring two Hololive rejects with nuclear-level yabs on their backs. Nobody who can make money on their own will jump into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:47:34 No.48503463 Report

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>>48502667
They adding people in July. Unless they backed out. Wouldn't blame them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:53:45 No.48503673 Report

Quoted By: >>48503963

>>48502418
Gunrun didn't offer anything for them. Things like Holofes and Nijifes matters not just for the audience, but for the talents themselves. When you're so Talent Freedom that you become an absent parent, don't be surprised that they up and just leave at the first opportunity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 12:56:44 No.48503791 Report

Quoted By: >>48503963 >>48511731

>>48502418
I wonder how frantically GunRun is running around to try to speed up hiring any new members to soothe over the fact they lost three fucking members in a week, with one of them being one of their higher-earning members. Having the least amount of members compared to Niji/Holo and being so slow to add new members only taking their nepo hires surely coming back to bite them in the ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:01:22 No.48503963 Report

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>>48503791
The thing is that as >>48503673 mentioned - Vshojo has nothing to offer to anybody. No side projects, no support, the group has little to no chemistry between girls and they are currently falling apart. Only random 2views with nothing to lose will ever want to join in and even them will probably pick it as third or fourth choice after being rejected everywhere else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:34:30 No.48505485 Report

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>>48503382
The one behind Mirai Akari probably. More than Pika, she's the one that obviously will be back swinging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:35:15 No.48505515 Report

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>>48502418
Maybe they wouldn't be in deep shit now if everyone in vshojo wasn't a backstabbing whore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:39:16 No.48505712 Report

Quoted By: >>48505782

>>48503382
>Pikamee is going to join the people that harassed and bullied her into graduating
????????? Was she the named retard who didn't read the contract and got fucked over by Vshojo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:40:32 No.48505782 Report

Quoted By: >>48505894

>>48505712
>vshojo bullied pikamee
now that's an epic rrat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:41:43 No.48505844 Report

Quoted By: >>48506107

I like Vshojo but why would anyone join if they don’t have an already established audience? And if you aren’t big enough they’ll be taking some of your money. VS+ only works for big names and PLcreators, they’re only there to facilitate connections and make merch. This business model doesn’t really work that well with small creators because they wouldn’t have a community to sell to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:42:43 No.48505894 Report

Quoted By: >>48506152

>>48505782
Do you know something we dont anon? Are Froot and Ironmouse leaving Vshojo too? Or did you just block out them harassing Pikamee and Silvervale in your head

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:47:12 No.48506107 Report

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>>48505844
This, there's a reason they scrapped the whole "auditions" idea and opt for just poaching existing vtubers instead

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Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:48:07 No.48506152 Report

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>>48505894
I can't believe she said this. The most sickening harassment I've ever seen.

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Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:48:08 No.48506154 Report

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SVB is the catalyst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:49:21 No.48506216 Report

Quoted By: >>48506330

>2021
Braindead retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:51:53 No.48506330 Report

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>>48506216
You could own me epic style with a clip of Ironmouse harassing PIka, but we both know that doesn't exist. Or at least I hope you do otherwise rratworms have eaten holes in your brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 13:59:12 No.48506735 Report

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>>48502418
Yeah, they should have recruited some strong indies while they still seemed like they were on the rise, just so enough talents stick around long-term despite the fact it is easy to leave (because you can keep your vtuber identity).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:02:59 No.48506948 Report

Quoted By: >>48507448 >>48511551 >>48511572

>>48502667
I have a feeling they wanted Kson to groom holos who were on the fence about their work environment at the time (Haachama in particular) and ex-holos like Delta (until Rushia burnt that bridge) into joining their company. VshojoJP was never about scouting for Japanese talents but rather an attempt to turn it into a retirement home for the big dogs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:12:11 No.48507448 Report

Quoted By: >>48511551

>>48506948
If Kson wanted to do that she would just go to their house and talk to them, not buy subway ads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:14:36 No.48507581 Report

Quoted By: >>48507954

>let your talents keep their model if they leave
>arrive at contract negotiations
>you (the company) have zero leverage
>the moment the deal isnt to their liking they take their model and their fans and leave

absolute 5Head business strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:21:31 No.48507954 Report

Quoted By: >>48511730

>>48507581
it's cute to see holofriends confused at how talent agencies exist without the ability to delete the talent from existence

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:23:46 No.48508068 Report

Quoted By: >>48508201 >>48509230 >>48511168

>>48503382
>pika is very obviously joining vsjp
INTENSE COPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:26:27 No.48508201 Report

Quoted By: >>48509805 >>48511887

>>48508068
yea she's obviously gonna join hololive where they support the cause

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:45:41 No.48509230 Report

Quoted By: >>48511664 >>48514924 >>48519283

>>48508068
>isekai pikamee and the associated merch run (not organized by voms) showed her willingness to be more independent
>kson helped her with the isekai pikamee merch
>she compared kson to a big sister and cried when she saw people calling kson fat
>she quit literally at the end of the japanese financial year
>one of kson's first comments about pikamee's graduation is that she thinks vtubers should never graduate (other times when she says this exact same thing she goes into more detail about model ownership and that it's a shame that vtubers have to leave their characters behind when they quit a company)
>in a karaoke stream kson dedicates two songs to pikamee, weather hackers and your dreams never end
>when talking to kson they brought up having an offcollab this autumn
>when contemplating buying a new phone she wondered if it could do facetracking the same way her old one can
>her second to last stream is her exploring kson's vrchat maps
>she constantly complained that in voms she can't do stuff like 3D lives, including on her graduation stream
>her graduation stream was incredibly unemotional and she ended by saying またね
>kson and mouse both pointed out she said that

obviously she was bullied off the face off the internet by le hecking evil ironmouse+froot cabal for saying she wanted to play the wizerd grame though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:47:27 No.48509309 Report

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>>48502418
The audition scandal was just a sign of their true intentions. After the well of hopeful prospects dried, they turned on their own, but the ones being screwed figured out that they can just leave with zero consequences.>>48502594

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:48:33 No.48509367 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:54:08 No.48509658 Report

Quoted By: >>48509805 >>48511612

>>48503382
Pika would be a retard if joined vsjp, it's either Holo or never again

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 14:57:28 No.48509805 Report

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>>48509658
>>48508201

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Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:16:23 No.48510738 Report

Quoted By: >>48510794 >>48511610

Kson is experienced with idol agencies but she has no clue what MCNs are and that VShojo is just another one of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:17:16 No.48510773 Report

Quoted By: >>48510981

>>48502418
Why do you think this means that they're in deep shit kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:17:46 No.48510794 Report

Quoted By: >>48511083

>>48510738
What does MCN mean again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:22:06 No.48510981 Report

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>>48510773
When half your talents quit in under a week you are in deep shit "kek"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:24:28 No.48511083 Report

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>>48510794
Multi-channel networks.

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Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:26:32 No.48511162 Report

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>>48502667
i wonder how much money they wasted trying to advertise in japan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:26:48 No.48511168 Report

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>>48508068
You underestimate how much Kson has groomed her

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:30:51 No.48511367 Report

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>>48502667
Nobody takes talent freedom shit seriously. All talk no action. You need to prove it by making such contents. Otherwise it's just a shitty catch phrase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:32:32 No.48511442 Report

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>>48503056
Timeline wrong and stop use green text
Asshole

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:33:50 No.48511502 Report

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>>48502418
Their problem was their model from the bottom up. Getting a dozen popular people that have no reason to give a shit about anyone else in the group and you get a group of people that don't give a shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:34:18 No.48511516 Report

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>>48502667
They put too much faith in Kson actually doing work for the company, she got Nazuna in then fucked off doing her own thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:35:26 No.48511551 Report

Quoted By: >>48511669

>>48503141
>>48502667
>>48503302
>>48503224
>>48506948
>>48507448

Shut the fuck up and watch Kson interview with JP CEO ( not Gunrun)

They will debut 3 members this year

End of story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:35:59 No.48511572 Report

Quoted By: >>48511753

>>48506948
Haachama's problem was never really her work environment, but rather herself. She doesn't know what she wants to do and hasn't for over 3 years because she was hired as a dumb kid.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:36:58 No.48511610 Report

Quoted By: >>48512125

>>48510738
>VShojo is an MCN
Are you the one who wrote this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:37:00 No.48511612 Report

Quoted By:

>>48509658
Stop making shitposts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:37:56 No.48511664 Report

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>>48509230
>>weather hackers

You are wrong here but mostly true

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:38:01 No.48511669 Report

Quoted By: >>48511827 >>48512090 >>48518814

>>48511551
I can't wait for them to invite people and get pressured by Japanese law due to not having permissions for their growing JP branch. Also nice Reddit format, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:39:18 No.48511730 Report

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>>48507954
>the model is the talent

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:39:19 No.48511731 Report

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>>48503791
If the audition saga taught us anything it's that Gunrun is borderline incompetent if he couldn't put a proper hiring praxis in place to get new members at a good pace while they had momentum. Squandering the open auditions and just hiring friends people already thought was part of your group was the dumbest move in history at least have a token 2-view also in the mix ffs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:39:36 No.48511753 Report

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>>48511572
>> Kill Co-Exist
>> Kill Haachama
>> need only Akai Haato

Banishment room culture is a thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:41:31 No.48511827 Report

Quoted By: >>48516223 >>48518814

>>48511669
Kson has knowledge about JP law more than anyone here.

I don't worry about legal thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:42:53 No.48511887 Report

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>>48508201
>muh cause
If you want to use that logic, Vshojo would be even worse for their active tranny fanbase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:47:18 No.48512090 Report

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>>48511669
https://www.youtube.com/live/kGxXVeVElHs?feature=share

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 15:47:50 No.48512125 Report

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>>48511610
It's not wrong, if all they take is an extra % of adsense/memberships and a lion-share of the merch revenue it's basically just another Machinima but less successful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 16:42:20 No.48514924 Report

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>>48509230
>>in a karaoke stream kson dedicates two songs to pikamee, weather hackers and your dreams never end
Is this a good thing? That bitch can't sing for shit. I would feel utterly embarrassed listening a chopped song dedicated to me. kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:06:09 No.48516223 Report

Quoted By: >>48516710

>>48511827
Proof?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:07:01 No.48516274 Report

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>>48502667
nobody was going to fall for that shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:14:21 No.48516710 Report

Quoted By: >>48517289

>>48516223
she's an entertainment professional living in japan
people arguing against her are filipino children living in corrugated metal sheet shacks in the outskirts of manila
who knows the most about japanese ip law?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:23:52 No.48517289 Report

Quoted By: >>48517395

>>48516710
>she's an entertainment professional living in japan
So is Mori and she was retarded enough about the law that she was paying double taxes to both the US and Japan until an accountant explained to her how retarded she is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:25:39 No.48517395 Report

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>>48517289
kson actually speaks japanese and literally collabed with her accountant

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:36:57 No.48518068 Report

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Talent freedom kind of goes out the window when you had Nazuna saying she was told not to stream Hogwarts.

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Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:44:58 No.48518497 Report

Quoted By: >>48519953

>>48502418
Everyone knew the auditions were a scam and >>48477202 confirmed this.

They didn't want to hire promising 2views, they only wanted their friends. That's why they went with Haruka even though she was an orbiter, she would have got less shit over it compared to snuffy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:50:35 No.48518814 Report

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>>48511669
This already happened with Nazuna. I don't know why it doesn't apply to Kson.
I assume they'll get in massive trouble sooner or later when Nintendo or Sega notice them.
>>48511827
Kson is a proven retard and doesn't have a law degree. Doesn't change the fact that if someone threatens to sue them, they are fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 17:59:28 No.48519283 Report

Quoted By: >>48519677

>>48509230
>in a karaoke stream kson dedicates two songs to pikamee, weather hackers and your dreams never end
>weather hackers
wait wtf
source? is that even allowed? surely kson singing a song on stream which is the intellectual property of a company and 'character/person' that she was under NDA to not mix with her own person/say it was her falls under some kind of legal fuckery, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 18:07:26 No.48519677 Report

Quoted By: >>48520289

>>48519283
cover does not own it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 18:13:11 No.48519953 Report

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>>48518497
>they used a nice autistic girl and took advantage of her naive nature
absolute scum over at vshojo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 May 2023 18:19:53 No.48520289 Report

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>>48519677
>cover does own an orisong by one of their members who is their IP
are you retarded?

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