During my dive of the archives, I got curious regarding the reason for the original /vyt/ - hololive split, and decided to try finding some answers.
First thing I found was that there was already a narrative war right at the start of /vt/ regarding what happened, nijifags blaming holofags, holofags blaming nijifags, people blaming 2hus etc. etc.
And since the board was so new, no one linked any sources.
And unfortunately warosu for some reason has no archives of the time period that the split happened, and archived moe does not have a fucking search function for /jp/, so I had to mix and match the two in order to find the right threads.
It took me a while, but the effort did pay off.
The split was thought to be needed because Hololive gained a lot of popularity from the Azur Lane collab + Asacoco making waves among the EOP scene, and Hololive discussion basically drowned out everything else on /vyt/.
>>>/jp/22612999 (December /vyt/ thread)1334 posts in 39.6 hours
>>>/jp/22863086 (January /vyt/ thread)1693 posts in 19.5 hours
> /#/ today1427 posts in 8.5 hours
/#/ today went at double the speed of those threads back then, yet people still called it relatively "slow".
Naturally this speed only increased once HoloEN broke into the scene, eventually causing the creation of this very board.
So in hindsight, the split WAS probably in the best interests of the non-holos, since primetime discussion would end up being hololive streams alone.
There was also a lot of shitposting about various topics (with even jannies getting involved), examples being -
> choosing which OP to use for /vyt/, and tribalist autism regarding holos and nijis (mostly against holos), occasional deletion of OP pics when the jannie didn't like it etc.> doxxfags spamming all chuuba faces, calling them ugly etc. (not restricted to one company)> shitting on newfag EOPs and other forms of gatekeeping attempts, including spreading random rrats (that people easily believed at the time), some of them persisting to this day due to EOPs outnumbering JSLs now.> occasional numberposting was tolerated, but they would mostly be praised when nijis were winning and shit on when nijis were losing. Origins of the hatred of numberfagging on /hlg/ and later /hlgg/ since it was mostly used for shitposts.After the split, discussion in /vyt/ was mostly still Nijis, with the occasional indie posts, and surprisingly Pikamee and VSPO chuubas as well (
>>>/jp/24843419).
Here's some of these historic threads which I'll link directly because there's no other way to find them from the archives -
Very first /vyt/ after the split :
https://archived.moe/jp/thread/22922302/First Hololive-only thread :
https://archived.moe/jp/thread/22914980/First Nijisanji-only thread :
https://archived.moe/jp/thread/22917493/You can make up your own minds about the state of the threads.
One thing I noticed was that an attempt to split the thread had been done multiple times since December when the Azur Lane collab and Coco brought in a bunch of new Hololive fans into /vyt/, causing a lot of friction with the existing audience.
But these were shut down by /jp/ jannies, possibly due to having less space for touhou threads.
/jp/ natives from other threads were used to their board being slow, and chuubas taking over likely left a bad taste with some of them, causing a bunch of shitposts and raids, with even janny support sometimes.
"Thread Splitting" was sometimes used as an excuse to start shitpost timeloops during December-January after the first split attempts were shut down, so people were mostly tired of it by the time the split actually happened.
Funnily enough the first successful holo split thread was created by a nijifan -
/vyt/ Thread where it was spawned :
https://archived.moe/jp/thread/22909575/Posts -
https://archived.moe/jp/thread/22909575/#22914984https://archived.moe/jp/thread/22909575/#22915006https://archived.moe/jp/thread/22909575/#22915046https://archived.moe/jp/thread/22909575/#22915138He cited that Hololive fans were only there for Hololive while Nijisanji fans had no problems discussing other chuubas, and so should just use /vyt/ (kek).
The split actually stayed this time without getting nuked, implying that he was a janny or a mod.
12 hours later, naturally Nijifans wanted their own thread and split off as well.
Once the idea was accepted, the splits naturally stabilized with their own fanbases and cultures, until Myth debuted and messed up the dynamics once again.
