>>50740719also Sana. also half the main girls went to shit just because the dudes started existing and management was too incompetent to get them to comprehend why they should have just avoided the subject.
to take a tangent here it feels like half of holoEN is dead even with the girls still existing just because they had attitude shifts over time. regardless of whether what we see of them now was the real person all along, sometimes the real person isn't as fun to be around and watch as the fake. I'd say half of what unicorns feel slighted about isn't even the males themselves - it's the idea that the girl they idolize doesn't respect the fans as an entity, and dismisses interactions as "anything you don't like about me is always your fault" which is just impossible to keep liking as a person. male collabs are just a pothole in the road, an obstacle that will trip up the girls who weren't observant or didn't think running into it would damage their vehicle. if starsEN didn't exist people would still think kronii is a big lesbo, ame would probably have a lot of goslings still etc. it all adds up.
the notion of letting girls decide what to do made sense for most of the JP girls, who understand moe/anime/idol culture far more thoroughly and intuitively and thus come to a natural conclusion that there is nothing to be gained bringing males into the mix. it was a mistake to assume EN girls would feel the same. because it hurts their feelings to tell them what to do the best option was to just deny them the opportunity to sabotage themselves by never having the males be a wayward option for them to begin with. if tempus wasn't there and it was en3, holo would look like the shining city on the hill still and proud of being its own thing. in trying to play catch-up to nijiEN, holoEN looks weaker - because there wasn't even anything to actually catch up on. they dropped everything to try to compete with people who have fractions of their sub counts and CCVs. the only high thing was income, from mainland chinese girls looking for something new to do after kpop got banned on the mainland - luxiem debuted almost right after that. it was a truly right place/right time deal and won't happen again.
