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Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:30:15 No.51739075 View View Reply Original Report

Why hasn't there been a REAL g*ra killer yet is being le funny shork girl really that hard to copy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:32:27 No.51739191 Report

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>>51739075
because the moment you try to compare to Gura, you curse that vtuber with never being able to reach Gura levels of meme popular. It's a universal curse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:35:05 No.51739314 Report

Quoted By: >>51739452 >>51760422

Kobo would have been the real Gura killer if she were EN only

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:35:47 No.51739357 Report

Quoted By: >>51739465

The prophecy states that the Gura killer is a washed up YouTuber who'll become a male Vtuber. That hasn't happened yet.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:35:51 No.51739362 Report

Quoted By: >>51742634 >>51754995 >>51769331

>>51739075
It was the perfect storm of right person, right place, right time, right model/character. It wont happen again in the west; vTubing has lost most of its mystique due to constant degradation from twitch whores and vTweeters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:35:55 No.51739364 Report

Quoted By: >>51739492

There won’t be a “gura killer” because EN Vtubers popularity is starting to stagnate she was a product from her own ability to hold an audience that was being formed because of Covid now that everyone is going back to their real life normal people aren’t consuming this type of content thus leaving a throne that won’t be touched

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:36:50 No.51739413 Report

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>>51739075
Gura was the gura killer in the end, lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:37:39 No.51739452 Report

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>>51739075
Because tempiss killed future gura killer and this dumb indog opinion >>51739314

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:37:52 No.51739465 Report

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>>51739357
Vinny....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:38:27 No.51739492 Report

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>>51739364
>actually thinking the covid lockdown was a one-time event

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:38:39 No.51739505 Report

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>>51739075
You can't duplicate fluke

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:39:58 No.51739588 Report

Quoted By: >>51739821

>is being le funny shork girl really that hard to copy?
Ask that penguin that got bullied into stopping her streams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:40:55 No.51739624 Report

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>>51739465
He even released an album this year he's more of an idol than Gura...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:44:44 No.51739821 Report

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>>51739588
Penguin? I think I know who you're talking about, but my mind is a little fuzzy. The one posted here a couple days ago?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:44:45 No.51739822 Report

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>>51739492
I mean if you’re trying to start another pandemic to make your 3view “gura killer” win then go ahead

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:44:46 No.51739824 Report

Quoted By: >>51739922 >>51741832

>>51739075
The problem is is it's hard to out-Gura Gura and as long as the real Gura exists, it probably won't happen. People who try really hard to copy her generally lack her humor/wit (or lack of it sometimes) and her general bouts of weirdness. Or they have the humor or weirdness but just don't sound even 1% as cute as her so the voice just doesn't match her kind of model. Because it's rare to have a voice like hers with such a range the odds are low that a voice-alike is going to also match her other traits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:46:41 No.51739922 Report

Quoted By: >>51755059 >>51787428

>>51739824
also forgot to add, an excellent of example of why you can't out-gura Gura is Mumei.

Mumei can sound actually-kinda-close to Gura. You can describe her as weird/autistic/funny sometimes too. Yet somehow Mumei just isn't Gura in the fucking slightest, because she doesn't have that wit or that terminally-online kind of sense of humor to her, she's more of just aloof and standoffish.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:47:09 No.51739944 Report

Quoted By: >>51741961

>>51739075

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:51:13 No.51740163 Report

Quoted By: >>51755237

You don't kill something be trying to play at its own game. You kill it by offering something related but at a similar or higher quality.
Remember, all of Halo clones from the mid 2000s didn't kill Halo, it was Call of Duty improving and reinventing itself with Modern Warfare.

The true "Gura Killer" will be a vtuber you'd never expect or maybe never even heard of, hitting the mainstream and becoming a star overnight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 04:55:12 No.51740350 Report

Quoted By: >>51740821 >>51740941 >>51742744 >>51751797

Gura just happened to become a viral meme at a time when everyone was locked up due to coof, it isn't like her videos are anything special, the same minecraft and fotm game shit that everyone in holo does
Trying to recreate the circumstances that lead to her is basically the same as trying to recreate fidget spinners or among us suddenly exploding

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 05:01:18 No.51740664 Report

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Gura is too good at everything. She even saw that everyone was failing to kill her and said “well fuck, guess I have to do it myself.”

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 05:05:27 No.51740821 Report

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>>51740350
Gura actually does have some specialties like rhythm games and singing but perms completely choked off basically every fucking last bit of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 05:08:17 No.51740941 Report

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>>51740350
Ride on Time was legitimately good and went viral.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 05:10:07 No.51741024 Report

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>>51740941
It was always overrated. Her singing is painfully mediocre

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 05:30:19 No.51741832 Report

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>>51739824
I think the closest is the ghost girl in Idol. I don't think she's trying to be a Gura copy but she obviously idolizes her and using her style as a template.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 05:30:49 No.51741849 Report

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>>51739075
Blue Doritos is a thing and none of the 'Gura killers' have any actually viral memes or moments to their name. Plus she debuted during the (previous) golden age of Vtubing. In the overall scene Salome was probably the closest thing to a next Gura. But we all know how that ended.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 05:33:35 No.51741961 Report

Quoted By: >>51811593

>>51739944
too ESL to be similar to Gura. should have posted the clown since at least shes a burger

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 05:50:12 No.51742634 Report

Quoted By: >>51742823

>>51739362
>It was the perfect storm of right person, right place, right time, right model/character.
'Right time' will never happen again but can you get all the others in one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 05:52:32 No.51742744 Report

Quoted By: >>51751797

>>51740350
Yeah, people either weren't here for or forgot how big of a meme she was as soon as the first A tweet dropped. A good design and a cute voice help, but 99% of what made Gura what she is is being in the right place at the right time, and not even Hololive will be able to replicate that again at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 05:54:40 No.51742823 Report

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>>51742634
Fillian is probably the equivalent of what that looks like in 2023 - I dunno I dont watch her but I know shes made some waves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 06:53:28 No.51744846 Report

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>>51739075
Rindo could have done it if she actually wanted to. Now Gura is killing herslef.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 06:58:58 No.51745024 Report

Quoted By: >>51748409

>>51742823
nah its not even similar. fillians alright but her jokes are all the same zoomer shit and half her clips are just;

>chat donation sound plays
>lel she fell over

Its cancer.

On the other hand shes got some pretty good takes about the industry generally and we shes having a serious conversation doesn't seem too bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 08:42:05 No.51748409 Report

Quoted By: >>51770639

>>51745024
If Filian got rid of the fart sound, stopped the collabs with nobodys, stopped the react streams, she would be the best vtuber on the market. Sure, her numbers, fanbase, and income would take a hit, but she would have the highest quality streams, simply because she's the only one that knows how to do 3D well, now that the OGs have graduated or moved onto the Live2D straightjacket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 09:56:05 No.51750255 Report

Quoted By: >>51810186

>>51739075
The market conditions aren't the same. Gura came out at a time when Hololive was on a massive incline, everyone was locked at home, and the EN vtubing scene was barren. Maybe someone will eventually replace her through slow and steady hard work, but I doubt EN vtubing is ever going to see the massive boom that she had again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 10:48:14 No.51751797 Report

Quoted By: >>51751918 >>51758726

>>51740350
>>51742744
>this much cope
gura managed to go viral twice before being gura, there must be something she does right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 10:51:51 No.51751918 Report

Quoted By: >>51751969

>>51751797
having views on a viral music video =/= successful numbers as a streamer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 10:53:34 No.51751969 Report

Quoted By: >>51754872

>>51751918
>coping this hard
explain why only gura became such a sensation during that initial wave then, no other chuba came close

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 11:07:11 No.51752504 Report

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>>51739075
> is she hard to copy?
No. But if you directly copy her, you'll only get hate. You can only copy a version of her that is somewhat changed by you. Then again, I think anyone who tries, will translate her traits and personality a bit differently, so you will never get a perfect copy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 11:51:17 No.51754028 Report

Quoted By: >>51757017

>>51739075
Cover said that the next big thing isn't something that can be predicted and is different from the vtubers that we know today.
There will always be a possibility of a Gura killer. But suspect Gura will hold the reign for quite a while.
Don't forget that her old channel with no updates in three years still receives 14k+ viewers per day. That's amazing. And Gura's current channel also receives plenty of views per day without streaming. Even with her algorithm being shot for now. But she is capable of recovering it easily, just by streaming. She has so many paths for kino content, like I'd love to see Red Gawr again. Another ASMR? Gura humming tunes can't be beat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 11:57:27 No.51754271 Report

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>>51739075
Those who tried to copy her got swarmed by pedos and got put off by the whole thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 12:01:55 No.51754456 Report

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Gura's first karaoke stream. She killed it. Brought me and others down the rabbit hole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlS5TmnFZyA
Shows how nervous she was with a crowd over 120k.

It wasn't that easy for Gura. Remember her first stream after debut? That Maneater stream almost made her want to quit, giving her PTSD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 12:12:52 No.51754872 Report

Quoted By: >>51755281 >>51755799 >>51771024 >>51777731

>>51751969
Like I said already retard, fucking memes and design at the right place and time. No one knew who she was before debut and she still rocketed ahead clear of the others by the time she made her very first literally nothing but the letter A tweet. If her being her was the key factor, then her own streaming efforts would have been wildly more successful than they were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 12:16:58 No.51754995 Report

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>>51739362
VTubers were never that magical, Gura was just highly versed in feeding simpslop to her viewers from the getgo and her pedobait model could be marketed for children and pedophile manbabies in the closet alike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 12:19:23 No.51755059 Report

Quoted By: >>51787428

>>51739922
Mumei is definitely terminally online alright, she’s just one of those e-girls that can’t help but be utter shrews

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 12:24:10 No.51755237 Report

Quoted By: >>51772133

>>51740163
Except the Halo killer was Halo. The WoW killer was WoW or more aptly bungie/343 and blizzard. Medal of Honor was killed by cod though but nothing has killed Cod except Cod

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 12:25:14 No.51755281 Report

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>>51754872
Gura's old channel had 800k subscribers in March, while Fubuki and Korone had around 500k/300k. Before she joined Hololive. Gura felt bad reaching 1 million before them after starting over.
Also let's not forget they weren't the first EN. Nijisanji and others tried to accelerate after Gura's success, though they struck gold with Luxiem. Salome grew faster than Gura. But longevity is the true metric of success.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 12:33:23 No.51755604 Report

Quoted By: >>51756770 >>51770880 >>51781253

>Luxiem
>Kobo
>Salome
One of these even took Gura’s title of fastest to a million and then they sputtered out. Going on 3 years multiple fan meltdowns, cancel attempts, and fleshstreamers trying to leech still no effect on her popularity while none of the three there lasted a year. Myth would have been dead in the water without Gura and no matter which model she had she’d be the most popular. People really say it’s because of model but forget she has the worst model in EN googly eyes, awful rigging, and a basic design. Let’s ignore her genmates being half as popular, if we’re being generous, what about the fact nijien debuted right around her near 200k outfit reveal? Why didn’t they blow up

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 12:38:18 No.51755799 Report

Quoted By: >>51756309 >>51756512

>>51754872
In Holo
>120k karaoke
>2 100k outfit reveals/highest reveal
>Most vods over a million
>Debut is top 3 most watched streams
>60k is guaranteed 1 million while 90-100k isn’t guaranteed for anyone else
I mean what else do you want

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 12:47:06 No.51756080 Report

Quoted By: >>51810604

gura has a unique personality in vtubing, somehow raw, somehow like a grandma, somehow comforting, very likeable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 12:54:32 No.51756309 Report

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>>51755799
Everybody would be better off if she never had those huge numbers.
Less chumbuds = less obnoxious chumbuds ruining everything, and Gura might not have impostor syndrome discouraging her from streaming and keeping them placated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 13:00:02 No.51756512 Report

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>>51755799
For her to stream or get fired for being a cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 13:06:39 No.51756770 Report

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>>51755604
She has a pedobait model, retard. That’s a bonus and a half.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 13:12:34 No.51757017 Report

Quoted By: >>51757809

>>51754028
She has probably gotten to a point where revenue doesn’t suffer from taking the Ayame approach to any extent that her life is affected in the least, and she saw how disinterested and bitchy all her branchmates are. No competition, no stimulus, no point in streaming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 13:27:52 No.51757809 Report

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>>51757017
Those bitchy branchmates who are the only reason she even appeared at all the past month.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 13:45:43 No.51758726 Report

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>>51751797
The OK boomer song only went viral due to that one spic chic dancing to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 14:17:04 No.51760422 Report

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>>51739314
Indo native language isn't cute so no mass appeal. Wait until we get a true british EN girl who is also fluent in Japenese.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 14:33:43 No.51761351 Report

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>>51739075
Just because its hard doesnt mean it no one should try

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 14:48:19 No.51762029 Report

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>>51739075
She is literally one of a kind, this ridiculous creature was just born that way and is effortlessly Gura.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 14:54:43 No.51762314 Report

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>>51739075
it's because chumcucks are drones and refuse to watch literally anyone else, even when Gura is MIA for months

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 16:16:48 No.51766992 Report

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>>51739075
Lightning in a bottle. A lot of her subs were from casuals who were bored during lockdowns and don't even watch vtubers anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 17:00:09 No.51769331 Report

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>>51739362
I agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 17:11:44 No.51770028 Report

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>>51739821
Reminder to drink water anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 17:21:21 No.51770639 Report

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>>51748409
There are tons of VRChat "vtubers" who actually know how to 3D without standing in front of a virtual green screen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 17:25:49 No.51770880 Report

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>>51755604
people who hate gura just have to cope about how "she got lucky bros"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 17:27:58 No.51771024 Report

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>>51754872
>No one knew who she was before debut
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHA
people were doubting it was HER because at the time joining a holo sidebranch was considered a step down from her current position

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 17:46:24 No.51772133 Report

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>>51755237
>COD being anywhere near close to dead
Maybe in 2013-2017 with the future titanfall ripoff games, but for better or worse, MW 2019 saved the franchise, and the stuff that came from it like warzone is gonna keep the series safe for another 5 years at least.

COD isnt even comparable to halo or WoW as far as dead games go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 19:07:44 No.51776308 Report

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>>51739075
weeeeeeeeee

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 19:40:00 No.51777731 Report

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>>51754872
>No one knew who she was before
Blatant tourist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 20:30:40 No.51780152 Report

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http://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/user/A5B1728808E00D8C_7fbc9f
You got to see her, she's coming

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 20:48:19 No.51781120 Report

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>>51741832
The Blacked girl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 20:50:59 No.51781253 Report

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>>51755604
Her design is fantastic, no one gives a shit about the model or if it's a rhombus or whatever minor nitpicking you have to justify the insane buff such an iconic design gave her

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 20:55:14 No.51781443 Report

Quoted By: >>51784656

>>51739075
Gura is the biggest Gura killer.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 21:54:59 No.51784656 Report

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>>51781443
The real Gura killer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 22:36:56 No.51787006 Report

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>>51739075
The “____ killer” label is an albatross that hangs around the neck of the product that receives it, setting unrealistic expectations and causing backlash when it fails to live up to the hype. A non-vtuber example of this is Killzone being labeled the “Halo killer”. As with the Halo example, the only thing that can kill the product or franchise in question is the product and its creators themselves through mismanagement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 22:44:48 No.51787428 Report

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>>51739922
>>51755059
Neither of you actually watch Mumei, though I agree with the first anon saying that she’s unable to out-Gura Gura, but more because the weirdness gets dialed a bit too far for the bulk of viewers to relate. Gura is fairly weird, but is weird in a relatable way, whereas Mumei doesn’t have a frame of reference for what’s considered normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 23:13:49 No.51789064 Report

Quoted By: >>51790854

>>51739075
the Gura killer is filian, unironically. she managed to reach 4 digits in only a year as an indie which is amazing. it’s only a matter of time before she passes Gura given her work ethic (and honestly beating Gura the way she is now isn’t really that big of a deal)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 23:15:46 No.51789171 Report

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>>51740821
nobody watches Gura for her pro gaming skills lmao. shes just stagnating because doesn’t stream. the JP holos are still growing because they’ve stayed consistent unlike EN

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Jun 2023 23:46:07 No.51790854 Report

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>>51789064
cover should throw all the money at her
she'd be Coco 2.0

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2023 00:59:19 No.51800132 Report

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>>51739075
The formula hasn't been figured out yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2023 01:24:37 No.51803686 Report

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an 80 minutes stream kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2023 02:11:41 No.51807859 Report

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>>51739075
>is being le funny shork girl really that hard to copy?
No, but vtuber companies are incompetent

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2023 02:13:16 No.51807948 Report

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>>51739465
more like Jerma

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2023 02:25:28 No.51808849 Report

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>>51739075
Chumbuds were the gura killer all along

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2023 02:44:52 No.51810186 Report

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>>51750255
cover really moved at the perfect time, and Myth really knocked it out of the park imo
I think a few JPs were multiplying their overseas viewers massively at the time too; if it weren't for foobs and korone I wouldn't have been able to watch the EN debuts
(also I was only planning to watch the lolishork and tentagirl, but ended up catching every debut because of how fun they were)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2023 02:47:02 No.51810323 Report

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>>51739075
The same reason there hasn't been a COD killer or a wow killer for all those years. You can't kill a product by being the same product but with mild alterations

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2023 02:50:59 No.51810604 Report

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>>51756080
I enjoy this anon, or LLM or whatever this is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2023 03:03:20 No.51811410 Report

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Because being a genuine character as Gura is something that is hard to come by, to many unquantifiable things. Its pure talent for being whatever a vtuber entails. Iconic characters like this appear once in a decade in any media.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2023 03:05:34 No.51811593 Report

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>>51741961
Clown is not wholesome and panders too much to the coomers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2023 03:49:41 No.51814668 Report

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>>51739075
How many girls you know have a very young voice without it being ear-piercing or screechy? Now how many of them are vtubers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Jun 2023 03:51:24 No.51814778 Report

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maybe the real Gura killers were the friends we made along the way

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