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Would things be different if they debuted first?

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 10:18:10 No.53168141 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 10:19:38 No.53168222 Report

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>>53168141
Yeah simply because Vesper and Magni have personalities that love conflict.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 10:19:45 No.53168228 Report

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>>53168141
Probably, they are much more tame and knows to not ruin the Hologirls and their fanbases.
They stay on their bubble which is why they aren't controversial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 10:20:02 No.53168236 Report

Quoted By: >>53168460

>>53168141
Purple man hangs out with the cancer e-celeb crowd just like magni. I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually becomes a liability too.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 10:20:48 No.53168278 Report

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>>53168141
Things would be much better if Tempus wasn't formed at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 10:21:07 No.53168290 Report

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They seem a lot more stable, yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 10:23:54 No.53168430 Report

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>>53168141
Things would be way better if all of them never debuted

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 10:24:24 No.53168460 Report

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>>53168236
People didn't have too much issue with e-celeb crowd. They only got a lot of pushback when they started doing a bunch of collabs within a short period with HoloEN members, and their fans tried to push other EN members for more collabs
They probably would've been doing much better than they are right now if they, like the new 4, stuck to their lane and stayed away from the girls

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 10:26:40 No.53168596 Report

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>>53168228
That opinion is so simple. It's mindblowing that none of the Stars EN dudes would've caught the hate if they stayed away from the girls and stopped being controversial.
Instead they chose this path just for some Holo pussy.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 11:16:43 No.53170884 Report

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>>53168141
Bettel success would have made them change course

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 11:16:57 No.53170896 Report

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>>53168278
This.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 11:30:15 No.53171507 Report

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Literally would have avoided at least 75% of the pure nonsense that's gone on.

They've stayed in their own lane enough that they're almost completely avoidable

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 11:42:06 No.53172023 Report

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>>53168141
Nope, cause i'm sure as hell that most of tempiss shilling back then was mandated by management.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 11:49:11 No.53172350 Report

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Yes. They're unironically a 100 times better than the first wave in terms of everything. Model, work ethic, personality, collabs, everything yet they get less traction just because they debuted later. If it was just them a lot less people would be even complaining about tempiss due to these guys not trying to leech of the girls as nearly as much.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:25:07 No.53173923 Report

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>>53168222
Vesper's personality keep spiralling down since the days he was known as tempura's grandpa.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:35:02 No.53174332 Report

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>>53172350
They get less traction because besides Bettel, none of them are that entertaining. It's the same with Altare and Axel. Vesper, Magni, and Bettel are the only Tempus boys that aren't complete flops.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:36:50 No.53174409 Report

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>>53168596
blue fag actually realized this and quickly backpedalled after that infamous kronii collab lol. Still remember how uncomfortable af he was on Ame's worms collab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:39:56 No.53174539 Report

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>>53168141
Lmao no one cares about them at all. Magni and Vesper not taking any shit is good, they're butting heads with management for creative freedom in content creation and get meet with the Japanese hierarchical structures where the nail that sticks out needs to be hammered down. I'm glad they're not taking any of it, cover have proven multiple times to be absolute shitters when they try to manage content on their own instead of letting their talents take the reins freely.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:42:13 No.53174635 Report

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>>53174332
vesper and magni only got traction because they came before the second wave and because they leech off the girls more than anyone else in tempus.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:43:04 No.53174673 Report

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It probably would have been even worse for the homos. Vesper and Fagni had some decent traction for the first couple of months at least. The tempoop homos are all worthless other than the clown. I know some retards here are trying to force some meme about Shinri being le based because he doesn't collab with girls but he's a worthless 3view runt. The fact that tempiss as a whole managed to stay relevant for a month of two was pretty much entirely down to Vesper and Fagni.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:43:21 No.53174689 Report

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>>53174539
I forgot rrat makers are some of the most retarded folk on this board

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:43:45 No.53174705 Report

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>>53168141
>Vastly superior models for a stronger first impression
>More interesting games
>Better consistency in streams
>Each member is significantly different from one another
>Hakkos would have gotten a supreme buff from being the first Stars gen AND an ES speaker at once
>Shinri would have had a better chance at standing off the fujobait first impression and being the go-to for comfy content
>Bettel would have kept the creative streams going for longer than Magni and Altroon keeping Tempus in the highlight
>Flayon is a shota so the initial Holo/Stars intermingling would have been undermined by oneeshota fags cooming out
>No internal squabbling so it would have continued as the strongest unity gen
>Altroon could have missed the Hogwarts drama being too debut-anxious to comment
>Nodoka would have started working in the background by this point, removing Axel's uncomfortable flirts
>Vesper would have missed the Twitch endurance stream, preventing the suspension fight with his manager, thereby saving his momentum from being killed
>Vesper's artist would have been MIA for long enough that Pako would have been the defacto artist
>Magni would be the spark that makes Vanguard more interesting again rather than him drifting towards apathy and having to be propped up
>Vanguard would have gotten Yagoo's initial favoritism which would have funded better projects than the shit we got, like 12 months on a theoretical podcast or 2 model redesigns
>Altroon/Axel wouldn't have been there to push for Niji collabs during Apex season, potentially meaning the Niji/Holo crossovers would never have happened

In every way possible it would have been a better timeline

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:45:58 No.53174793 Report

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>>53168141
>Better chemistry
>Better models
>Better fanbase
>Better content
>Starmin members
>No Vesper-level menhera member
Yes, they should have been the only tempus members.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:47:20 No.53174849 Report

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>>53168228
It's because none of them care for the girls and are actually more interested in collabing with other Holostars.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:49:31 No.53174941 Report

Quoted By: >>53175175

>>53168596
True, but we also must remember that those interactions were started and instigated by Mori, the only reason she didn't touched the new Tempus members was because 5 months had happened from Tempu's debut and she got bored of using them for her image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:51:14 No.53175025 Report

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so what is up with EN and their second gens having more chemistry than the first?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Jul 2023 12:54:17 No.53175175 Report

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>>53174941
>Became a much better holo memeber once she got the males shit out of her system
It's like that was holding her back from embracing the company because she was just being contrarian over the no males stigma

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