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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 18:41:34 No.53382858 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>53383927 >>53384176 >>53384667 >>53385000 >>53389072 >>53391600 >>53392465 >>53392490 >>53393386 >>53394457

Why is there so few JPs collabing with stars compared to EN ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 18:43:36 No.53382946 Report

Quoted By: >>53382994 >>53383642 >>53383685 >>53388264 >>53391813

Taking the first post to say Valorant isn't as bad as the board says. Give it a chance instead of Apex

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 18:44:38 No.53382994 Report

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>>53382946
Taking the second post that both are worse than what the board is saying, and avoid it at all cost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 18:55:12 No.53383481 Report

Quoted By: >>53383596 >>53384932 >>53388025

Hololive pivoted towards a more idol focus, as well as more catering to gachikoi, around the time of Sankisei, and of the past three JP gens only Towa, Laplus, and technically Polka (sponsored stream) have collabed with the stars.

When Cover created HoloEN both management and probably some talents figured that those factors would be less relevant and that there would be less stigma around Stars collabs. They were *partially* right--there was backlash to Kronii and Ame collabing with Tempus but nowhere fucking near what would happen if say Pekora did.

Mumei is an interesting one because she had that one-off Stars collab but has never interacted with Tempus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 18:57:42 No.53383596 Report

Quoted By: >>53384228

>>53383481
>Pekora
why you always put a Pekora as example?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 18:58:47 No.53383642 Report

Quoted By:

>>53382946
Both are bad, play a real man’s game like Splatoon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 18:59:47 No.53383685 Report

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>>53382946
>Valorant isn't as bad as the board says
Yeah. It's even worse than that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 19:04:39 No.53383911 Report

Quoted By: >>53384042

>EN
>Ame, Mori, Bae, Kronii
>4 (5 if u want to count that song collab with Ina)
>JP
>Fubuki, Matsuri, Aki, Suisei, Sora, Laplus, Polka, Towa
>8 (10 if u want to count Choco and Roboco)
only reason why it looks bigger because there's only 2 gens compared to 7, but in reality JP has more members that interact with the stars than EN

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 19:05:03 No.53383927 Report

Quoted By:

>>53382858
>so few

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 19:07:39 No.53384042 Report

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>>53383911
6 if you also count Mumei, like OP is trying to do, but at that point you might as well throw in all the pre-Sankisei JPs who used to do male collabs but stopped. Honestly, you could say the same if you’re choosing to include Ina.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 19:10:21 No.53384176 Report

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>>53382858
Because you don't speak Japanese.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 19:11:18 No.53384228 Report

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>>53383596
Because she's a well established no-males chuuba.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 19:20:50 No.53384667 Report

Quoted By:

>>53382858
Western women only care about penis

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 19:26:16 No.53384932 Report

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>>53383481
Polka's stream with Oga wasn't sponsored, she was very clear on that on the stream. They worked on dogengers together, but they didn't get paid to do watchalong of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 19:27:32 No.53385000 Report

Quoted By: >>53387845

>>53382858
Really? Every week some girl is in Roberu's bar. I don't think any of the EN boys have collabed with girls as much as Roberu and Astel have. The playboys of hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 20:20:00 No.53387845 Report

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>>53385000
Regulars wish Roberu had someone visiting his bar every week. Lately he just sticks to Tamaki and Mea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 20:23:16 No.53388025 Report

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>>53383481
They are idols like three times a year for concerts and birthday lives. Other than that they just stream a game like every other non blue dorito vtuber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 20:27:55 No.53388264 Report

Quoted By: >>53388319

>>53382946
Valorant is a better game than Apex, it just so happens to be a boring competitive game like classical chess, also people have bad aim and can't let go of their aim assist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 20:29:01 No.53388319 Report

Quoted By: >>53388361

>>53388264
Valorant has aim assist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 20:29:59 No.53388361 Report

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>>53388319
You have no reading comprehension anon im talking about apex

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 20:42:44 No.53389072 Report

Quoted By: >>53389155 >>53390178 >>53390520 >>53391710

>>53382858
Better question, how come nobody talks about Mumei's collabs with stars when mixed gender collabs are brought up? Isn't Mumei's audience mostly made up of gachis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 20:44:16 No.53389155 Report

Quoted By: >>53389360

>>53389072
You would be correct anon, except mumei sounds and acts like gura, and so people are more willing to forgive

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 20:48:16 No.53389360 Report

Quoted By: >>53389620

>>53389155
If it were Gura collabing with Stars, her whole fanbase would be on fire, so is it really just Mumei's voice that gives her a free pass? I mean, she still is held in high regards compared to other HoloENs, not nearly as much as Gura, but still. Perhaps it was just luck on her part?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 20:53:01 No.53389620 Report

Quoted By: >>53389983

>>53389360
Mumei also isnt outspoken/vocal/wanting to stick it to the incels about wanting homos, unlike kronii mori bae and ame so that helps too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:00:01 No.53389983 Report

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>>53389620
I see.
Thinking about it, this makes me question what would happen if she did a one on one Tempus collab. Would people be as forgiving as to her other Stars collabs, would people push her until she spoke out against gachis, would she just decide to do it after the collab in the next stream unprompted? So many scenarios that could possibly play out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:03:53 No.53390178 Report

Quoted By: >>53390437 >>53391768 >>53392917

>>53389072
She was pretty much silent in the Collab as opposed to the other girls that acted like the Stars are gods, + this Collab always had an huge feeling that it only happened because of Bae's influence

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:09:27 No.53390437 Report

Quoted By: >>53392917

>>53390178
Even if Bae was the one who orchestrated the collab, Mumei could have refused, it's not like a Sora collab with another JP that isn't Azki where they possibly feel like they can't refuse because of the work culture or anything like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:11:10 No.53390520 Report

Quoted By: >>53390603

>>53389072
People aren't stupid, they can tell intent. You have to be beyond autistic to think Mumei's collab was meaningful in any capacity, especially since she can't even communicate with them. There's effectively no threat there for a unicorn, on top of the fact that she's avoided males since. Mumei is at the very least showing that she's being mindful of the idol path.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:12:56 No.53390603 Report

Quoted By: >>53390727 >>53390801 >>53390848 >>53391398 >>53391554

>>53390520
That still doesn't explain why she accepted to do the collab though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:15:43 No.53390727 Report

Quoted By: >>53390998

>>53390603
Kindness it was a different time, showing kindness to JP stars ends in things going back to normal after the stream ends, showing it to tempus ends up with leeching and that one member being associated with you forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:17:17 No.53390801 Report

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>>53390603
I don't get what you're trying to get at. There isn't any significant meaning either way, and you're a schizo if you think there is. She probably just wanted to draw meme pictures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:18:15 No.53390848 Report

Quoted By: >>53391398 >>53393880

>>53390603
She was acting as emotional support for Bae.
Bae didn't want to be only HoloEN there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:21:16 No.53390998 Report

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>>53390727
Still, if she would've refused, I'm sure they would have understood.
But the fact that a Tempus collab equates to leeching just because they're less popular sounds dumb. If we were to apply that to all collabs, pretty much all would all come down to leeching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:29:35 No.53391398 Report

Quoted By: >>53392243 >>53394840

>>53390603
She didn’t ask if guys were involved before she accepted, and the other girls didn’t realize it was important to mention to her, in addition to what >>53390848 says. Mumei asked for Bae’s help reaching out to the other branches and doing collabs with them. This was the same week she piggybacked on Bae’s Haachama collab, followed by a Reine collab later that day, and one with Bae, Lui, and Chloe the next week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:32:46 No.53391554 Report

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>>53390603
Anon, if you do your reps, youll know why mumei wouldnt mind doing a collab with male vtubers.
Mumei did a drawing stream a few hours before the collab and she was excited to show cursed art to the JP stars, so at least she thought it would be fun to be there.
Now like other anons pounted out, times were diferent, everyone knew that collab was a one off, it didnt even had a lot of CCV, it just came and went.
Now things are different with the arrive of tempus and kronii and ame being retarded.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:33:49 No.53391600 Report

Quoted By: >>53391674

>>53382858
?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:35:46 No.53391674 Report

Quoted By:

>>53391600
Based winning son!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:36:29 No.53391710 Report

Quoted By: >>53391814

>>53389072
Mumei has sworn out of male collabs after backlash. That's why this is the only one

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:37:49 No.53391768 Report

Quoted By: >>53393509 >>53394179

>>53390178
>as opposed to the other girls that acted like the Stars are gods
I skipped all the mixed collabs, did that really happen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:38:29 No.53391813 Report

Quoted By:

>>53382946
It's literally a CS:GO reskin for zoomers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:38:33 No.53391814 Report

Quoted By: >>53391996

>>53391710
But there wasn’t a backlash. Just the usual Mumei antis using it as an excuse to shit on her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:42:07 No.53391996 Report

Quoted By: >>53392059

>>53391814
It was enough backlash to upset the gachis thinking Mumei would become another ID whore collabing with Stars every week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:43:13 No.53392059 Report

Quoted By:

>>53391996
Anon, that was just the usual Mumei antis doing the same bullshit they were doing since debut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:46:54 No.53392243 Report

Quoted By: >>53392428

>>53391398
>She didn’t ask if guys were involved before she accepted, and the other girls didn’t realize it was important to mention to her
NTA but this is 100% your fanfiction, theres no way to know who asked who for the the collab and It's not that mumei found out that she will collab with the jp stars the day before.
And as i said in another reply, if you do your reps youll know that mumei doesnt really mind male vtubers, at least at that time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:50:57 No.53392428 Report

Quoted By: >>53393438

>>53392243
>NTA but this is 100% your fanfiction
Wrong, Mumei told Iofi during their swimsuit drawing collab that she automatically accepts collab invites without asking for details.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:51:48 No.53392465 Report

Quoted By: >>53392635

>>53382858
Why is there so few Mumei bait threads that actually talk about something that happened in the last year?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:52:26 No.53392490 Report

Quoted By: >>53392679

>>53382858
because they respect their audience

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:55:35 No.53392635 Report

Quoted By:

>>53392465
Because there’s nothing to bait with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 21:56:24 No.53392679 Report

Quoted By:

>>53392490
*because they want to milk their incels viewers
Fify

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:00:53 No.53392917 Report

Quoted By:

>>53390178
>>53390437
The collab was organized by Iofi, who wanted another artist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:10:15 No.53393386 Report

Quoted By:

>>53382858
>so few JPs
>Sora
>Azki
>Suisei
>Fubuki
>Matsuri
>Mel
>Aki
>Towa
>Polka
>Laplus
that's already more than EN

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:11:18 No.53393438 Report

Quoted By: >>53393690

>>53392428
that is IF the girls didnt told her about the stars and as i said before is not that mumei didnt knew about the stars until the day before and ther are reasons why mumei wouldnt mind a collab with them at that time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:13:00 No.53393509 Report

Quoted By:

>>53391768
No idea what the hell that anon's talking about, stars were going out of their comfort zone just to communicate in english to mumei so she would feel more included. I remember people feared bae and roberu would be flirting but they barely interacted, it was just fun stream with mumei freaking them out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:17:25 No.53393690 Report

Quoted By: >>53394069

>>53393438
She didn’t ask when she accepted, everything else you’ve said is irrelevant.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:21:42 No.53393880 Report

Quoted By:

>>53390848
there was a lot of "emotional support" in that stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:25:54 No.53394069 Report

Quoted By: >>53394331

>>53393690
you dont know if iofi didnt mentioned the starts, everything else you’ve said is irrelevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:28:35 No.53394179 Report

Quoted By:

>>53391768
>Stars say anything
>Homolovers girls ''HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA THAT'S HILARIOUS OMG FUNNIEST JOKE IN ALL HOLOLIVE *ScREAMS INTO THE MIc'*''
Iofi and Ollie always try to sell the stars in these type of collabs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:32:02 No.53394331 Report

Quoted By: >>53394780

>>53394069
Why would Iofi tell her while inviting her if Mumei immediately accepted? Quit moving goalposts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:34:35 No.53394457 Report

Quoted By:

>>53382858
The JP Holostars have a history of being attacked by JP Hololive fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:41:08 No.53394780 Report

Quoted By: >>53394895

>>53394331
How do you know the exact way Iofi asked mumei about the collab? do you know? no you dont, of course you dont, like i said that is your fanfiction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:42:22 No.53394840 Report

Quoted By: >>53394948

>>53391398
This is a 100% headcanon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:43:20 No.53394895 Report

Quoted By: >>53395043

>>53394780
Quit being a retard, you don’t know what fanfiction is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:44:21 No.53394948 Report

Quoted By:

>>53394840
>least obvious samefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jul 2023 22:46:30 No.53395043 Report

Quoted By:

>>53394895
again, can you confirm me that Iofi didnt mentioned the jp stars when she asked mumei about the collab? no you cant.

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