>>53572963also samefagging while I'm at it to comment, the holo reddit literally doesn't fucking matter in reality. they are like the tail wagging the dog and getting away with it, because people don't seem to question it (rather they are not allowed) nor care to research its metrics.
also, much of what is actually-there on reddit is fucking useless fluff. stale "memes" that aren't memes but random one-off things made by people who don't actually understand what a meme is. participating in caption contests and group activities like charts, aren't memes. they discuss active streams actually way, way way less than /vt/ does.
the actual public forum of vtuber talk is basically just twitter and here. that doesn't make us (or them) so great or worthy - reddit is just-that-irrelevant. and yet, people venerate it as the be all end all. lol no, it fucking isn't. it's cover's mouthpiece and heavily-sterilized grounds. it's a fucking company's official PR site, it's NOT community run so the community doesn't actually get to say what it thinks if Cover doesn't wanna hear it. that reflects badly on them, not us, because we're simply the customers and they are very much now trying to tell you what you want instead of give you what you want. they do this out of arrogance, assuming "what are they gonna do? it's us or nothing for them" and seem naive of the fact yes, people actually do drop them over this shit and they only commanded the English market in fall 2020. they've lost probably over half the original holoEN audience to indies/small corpos/niji by now, judging by how seemingly most people in the small corpo space are former Holo fans etc.
