>>5543469>Kizuna AI is irrelevant these days anyway. Even if you try to stretch some "bbut she started the concept of virtual youtubers" narrative out of it, she's not even close to the early ones. Annoying Orange is more relevant than her in that division.She coined the term and meets all the criteria, including modern criteria such as streaming and using a rigged model. And yes, she is close to the early ones, the only ones you could reasonably say came before her are "precursors" like Ami Yamato or Eilene. Annoying Orange is not remotely a VTuber, it's a webseries/cartoon with someone's real face spliced onto a cartoon.
>>5546075>Sonic is one of the most popular characters in fiction history and still VERY popular with everyone, adults and kids alike.Popularity doesn't extend to all formats a character takes on, that's why some business ventures fail.
>If Hololive struggles with Kuzuha and other male vtubers, and can't even beat Pewdiepie/Annoying OrangeNow we know you're a falseflagging troll with no actual interest in VTubers or the thread. Pewdiepie streamed only once with a (poorly made) VTuber avatar and never since, so he is irrelevant in any sort of discussion. Annoying Orange is, as previously stipulated, not a VTuber in any way, shape or form.
>Sonic is literally the 3rd most popular mascot character at the moment only behind Mario and Spongebob.No, that would be Mario and Pikachu. Spongebob is irrelevant at this point. Spreading misinformation everywhere and namedropping shit that has nothing to do with VTubers while somehow trying to worm them into relevancy to serious replies is duplicitous.
