>>55749774>Did you guys scare beggars too hard or something ?>>55750290>I'd like to think that they've realized their actions are just virtue signaling and look devoid of sincerityIt's not that. It is a little bit of what
>>55749924 alluded to.
Wanna know what is pretty much the recipe for success for the Hololive internet community, but the local and the "kaigai"?
1) It is, for the most part, "wholesome", trying to stay out of controversy for the most part staying warm and positive
2) It is, for the most part, "family friendly", trying to stay out of gratuitous promiscuity for the most part (keeping it segregated from the main community)
3) It is, for the most part, "insular", trying to stay segregated from the overall vtuber community and from the overall "otaku" community as much as possible
There are communities that have some of these qualities but the Hololive community managed (in this day and age on the internet) to maintain all three characteristics and that created a virtuous cycle
>new fans feel welcome and overwhelmed by the positivity>artists, developers, clippers and other content creators feel incentivized to produce content for their favorite Holos>The Holo girls themselves feel safe to be part and interact with the communityHere is where it fell through with the western Holostars community
1) They allowed themselves to be taken over by people with a vested interested not connected to their hobbies.
Instead of "warm and positive", they put forward a facade of "preachy, demanding and holier-than-thou"
2) Instead of keeping it "family friendly" in their main public communities, they (both the talent and the audience) succumbed to a type of promiscuity which is not for all tastes.
That behaviour greatly limits their potential audience to one interested in themes equally promiscuous
3) They allowed themselves to be taken over by "I am fan of X but I want Holostars to succeed", "I am fan of Y but I support the Holostars".
That ends up creating an environment that their most vocal supporters actually don't even care about the Holostars themselves as their hobbies and passions lie elsewhere far from the Holostars.
Now, NOTHING of that in itself would result in their community being completely discombobulated and scattered, but they made one additional mistake
>they allowed their inherently escapist and positive hobby to turn into a battlefieldThey allowed their most vocal supporters to be the exact ones trying to shout out people in other community, insulting them with their most heartfelt insults, a type of behaviour which, at least on the Hololive communities is labeled as
>schizobut in the Holostars EN communiity, it is done by their biggest "influencers" INCLUDING sometimes their streamers.
The desire to "own" their perceived enemies pushed them away from the wholesome virtuous cycle described above.
They didn't even notice what was going on, the more they entered in shouting matches with schizos (that for the most part didn't even post anything, just downvoted and laughed) the more they were destroying their own community.
Based on the ghost town that the Holostars subreddit is now, and based on how few Holostars related posts the Hololive subreddit gets now, it is CLEAR that the good people in the Holostars community wants NOTHING with their internet community, not anymore, not after their own "influencers" destroyed their image