>>56757750Both? Maybe.
It's just the fact that the people who are still somehow gachikoi like towa fans say things: "they're just collabs, they're trying to entertain, it's not like they have an actual relationship, you're being an incel" but the reality is that when you watch all these female chuubas (including Mike of course) having their first male collab, laughing harder than with you, puting a higher pitch voice even if they're not flirting, seemingly way more excited, basically becoming secondary characters to them, and this more often than not conducing to a lot more of male collabs on the way...
In my eyes, it's hard for me to see any actual fan (again, even if they say they're fine with male collabs) not getting heartbroken, becoming alienated by the fact that their chuubas that promised them love and to stream for them, to have a good time together and then discovering they're now basically a secondary dish to "her friends" (whetever they're male or female).
They're now the thing that gets attended when the chuuba needs to do a filler stream or when "her friends" are too busy with something else.
And all of this not taking in account that many of these male chuubas are basically complete weirdos, trash, sexual harassers and so on.
I think that's the main reason many of us are against male collabs. It's not thing of being her boyfriend or whatever (although it would make it way worse), it's a thing with ALL possible male collabs.
