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Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 17:52:09 No.57466443 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>57467524 >>57468456 >>57471814 >>57471913 >>57472893 >>57477790 >>57484794 >>57488281

>80 talents
>like 3 time slots, tops

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:02:29 No.57466969 Report

Quoted By: >>57467384 >>57472450 >>57476144 >>57480057 >>57488702 >>57490942

Blue Dorito will sooner commit Sudoku than hire an European

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:10:14 No.57467384 Report

Quoted By: >>57469937 >>57478011 >>57478816

>>57466969
Good, we don't have tip (superchat) culture anyway. Members yes, merch yes, supa eeeh. You also risk another Kiara that will stream in EU friendly hours, but it doesn't matter because no one wants to watch you and would rather catch up to their US oshi vod. Or just straight up watch JP streams instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:12:43 No.57467524 Report

Quoted By: >>57468163 >>57468398 >>57468593 >>57469397 >>57471359 >>57473181

>>57466443
We've been over this already. Fuwamoco streamed multiple times for EU hours and got shit views and SC compared to what they got for NA and JP hours.
It's clear EU doesn't watch streams. They don't tip. They don't donate. They don't buy merch. All they do is whine and whine and whine and beg and whine.
>But we watch HoloJP, not EN
Fuwamoco is as close to JP, but EN, as you can get, if you're not watching them then you just have yellow fever and don't actually care about vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:24:40 No.57468163 Report

Quoted By: >>57468411 >>57469693

>>57467524
Fuwamoco morning is far more EU than NA or JP, and it does good numbers.

>Fuwamoco streamed multiple times for EU hours
Streaming with such buff games as fucking Sakura Wars 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:26:02 No.57468247 Report

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europooreans deserve nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:29:04 No.57468398 Report

Quoted By: >>57468675 >>57480241

>>57467524
>They don't donate
>You also risk another Kiara that will stream in EU friendly hours
Isnt Kiaras SCs pretty high up in EN though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:29:23 No.57468411 Report

Quoted By: >>57480882

>>57468163
Sakura Wars may be a huge debuff, but the streams are kino.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:30:14 No.57468456 Report

Quoted By: >>57469041 >>57469397 >>57469905

>>57466443
Why do EU fags always whine about the timeslot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:32:32 No.57468593 Report

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>>57467524
Would you donate to someone whose streams are unwatchable 90% of the time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:33:58 No.57468675 Report

Quoted By: >>57469085

>>57468398
Don't bother, for these "people" Kiara has the magical ability to be both a shitter and the top superchat earner depending on the agenda they want to push.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:41:30 No.57469041 Report

Quoted By: >>57471430

>>57468456
Funny you post Luna, because she does a more consistant job at streaming during EU friendly hours than Kiara.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:42:29 No.57469085 Report

Quoted By: >>57469200 >>57469569

>>57468675
well there's a pretty simple explanation for that. ever heard of saviorfagging? it's when people artificially try to boost a chuuba with repeated views or large donations because they perform poorly (usually they are the runt of a group). Kiara's fans know that she is the least popular and therefore they are way more dedicated to her then other fanbases are to their oshis. They donate way more and listen to kiara's music on repeat to support her because in their minds, she needs it more then the others

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:44:28 No.57469200 Report

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>>57469085
>listen to kiara's music on repeat
Poor souls. Your brain has to be built different to survive that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:47:57 No.57469397 Report

Quoted By: >>57469726

>>57467524
>>57468456
I don't give a fuck about EU, I just want less overlap

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:51:39 No.57469569 Report

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>>57469085
But this whole discussion started because some claimed that Euros dont watch streams or dono

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:54:22 No.57469693 Report

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>>57468163
That stream is the necessary chemotherapy that is needed to filter shitters

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:54:56 No.57469726 Report

Quoted By: >>57469873

>>57469397
Honestly, why, not like you are gonna watch 24/7 to catch everything, just sticking to like 2-3 streamers is pushing it if you also wanna catch bigger event streams elsewhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:58:06 No.57469873 Report

Quoted By: >>57470053

>>57469726
>just sticking to like 2-3 streamers is pushing it
Nta, but chances are those 2-3 streamers are perma overlapping

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:58:58 No.57469905 Report

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>>57468456
Because it's fucking barren if you don't LARP as Japanese. I want passive listening I can actually understand but I refuse to watch Kiara.
t. US EST but early to sleep early to rise so can only catch EU and JP times

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 18:59:26 No.57469937 Report

Quoted By: >>57470034 >>57489412

>>57467384
>turn on EU twitch streamers
>they get spammed with donations to open their shitty csgo chests or FIFA loot boxes
EU just doesn't like vtubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:01:29 No.57470034 Report

Quoted By: >>57470114 >>57470135

>>57469937
>Watch non Vtuber streams
>WTF, WHY ISNT THERE ANY VTUBERS HERE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:02:03 No.57470053 Report

Quoted By:

>>57469873
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:03:13 No.57470114 Report

Quoted By:

>>57470034
Chicken or the egg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:03:37 No.57470135 Report

Quoted By: >>57470212

>>57470034
the point was, EU does donate, but not to vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:05:02 No.57470212 Report

Quoted By: >>57470315 >>57470798 >>57470916

>>57470135
>EU does donate, but not to vtubers
Kiara wouldn't do good numbers if that was true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:07:04 No.57470315 Report

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>>57470212
Most of her Superchat money does not come from Europe though

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:17:03 No.57470798 Report

Quoted By: >>57470916 >>57473262 >>57479890

>>57470212
subsidized by the deep pockets of the US KFP branch
ah ah ah ah

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Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:19:39 No.57470916 Report

Quoted By: >>57473262

>>57470212
>>57470798

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:28:11 No.57471359 Report

Quoted By: >>57471789

>>57467524
Why are you even bringing up numbers and views here? Fucking obsessed number monkey

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:29:22 No.57471430 Report

Quoted By: >>57476106

>>57469041
Honestly I wish I wasn't lazy dirty EOP, JP timeslot literally perfect for me, when I go on YouTube there is always JP holo streaming and I subbed to maybe 10 of them at best.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:30:19 No.57471469 Report

Quoted By: >>57473767

>They all stream at the same time, EN needs more members!
>Council debut
>They all stream at the same time, EN needs more members!
>Advent debut
>They all stream at the same time, EN needs more members!

It's never going to change

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:36:23 No.57471789 Report

Quoted By:

>>57471359
because not streaming in EU times is a purely economical decision

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:37:03 No.57471814 Report

Quoted By:

>>57466443
yeah it's like a big buffet, what is the problem here?
>muh EU
oh, lol, welcome more wealthy immigrants from east asia not refugees from the desert and maybe things will turn around for you guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:39:08 No.57471913 Report

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>>57466443
why does Bae intentionally do shit that destroys her numbers? just move to 9pm where you're only starting against shiori. ame has moved her stream at least twice already for this stream. and speaking of ame, a minecraft stream called 'digging dirt' sounds like a really fun stream for viewers. I wish Jap would force them into a reasonable schedule.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:50:35 No.57472450 Report

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>>57466969
Euros are all obnoxious schizos so everyone's avoiding them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:57:39 No.57472825 Report

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Everyone is absolutely going to get mogged by Moom karaoke so who cares?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 19:58:52 No.57472893 Report

Quoted By:

>>57466443
estGODS are the only people who matter so this is fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 20:04:10 No.57473173 Report

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>man this overlap is hell I wish they'd spread out streams a little more
>yeah that'd be good
>and people in other timezones might be able to catch streams too
>NOOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 20:04:13 No.57473181 Report

Quoted By: >>57498491 >>57499464

>>57467524
The secret is this:
USA hours = LATAM hours
EU hours = Africa hours

Between these, who the fuck do you think has more disposable income?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 20:05:31 No.57473262 Report

Quoted By:

>>57470798

>>57470916

I don't understand why you are posting these graphs. With a simple photo of the average KFP, you will know that such ample waist could only belong to a 'Murrican.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 20:14:53 No.57473767 Report

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>>57471469
this gif never fails at making me laugh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 20:17:23 No.57473893 Report

Quoted By: >>57478000 >>57480050

Just because EU doesn't watch hololive doesn't mean it doesn't watch vtubers you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 21:02:06 No.57476106 Report

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>>57471430
Just learn Japanese

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 21:02:49 No.57476144 Report

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>>57466969
Agreed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 21:30:33 No.57477790 Report

Quoted By:

>>57466443
we need EU chuubas NOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 21:33:36 No.57478000 Report

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>>57473893
They don't watch hololive because there's no holomem to watch besides Kiara. We need at least two European girls in the next gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 21:33:44 No.57478011 Report

Quoted By:

>>57467384
Europoors are truly the black people of white people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 21:45:39 No.57478816 Report

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>>57467384
We do have tip culture, retard.
It is just not required because people get payed for what their work is worth it and so we can tax them harder

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Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 22:01:52 No.57479890 Report

Quoted By: >>57481078

>>57470798
>Average EUR supacha = 6.569,9 JPY
>Average USD supacha = 4.701,4 JPY
Looks like the guys sending supachas in USD actually send less money, but there are just more of them. Really makes you think, they have less money they can spend (i.e. being poor). Am I missing something here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 22:04:07 No.57480050 Report

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>>57473893
oh really? why doesn’t europe have its own big vtuber agency then? where’s the holo rival, the vshojo killer, the niji destroyer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 22:04:13 No.57480057 Report

Quoted By: >>57480780

>>57466969
They do, and she streams uncontested, and has shit numbers.

Why invest in a timezone that has nothing to offer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 22:07:42 No.57480241 Report

Quoted By:

>>57468398
Look at her streams’ SC currencies distribution, anon. The top is almost always USD instead of any EU currency

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 22:18:04 No.57480780 Report

Quoted By:

>>57480057
Most of her streams start at 23 or 24 JST. She should start around 3 hours later to target European prime time and stream until Ameripoors return from being wage slaves so they can send her their money.
Instead she tries to target the late-night Japanese audience and also Koreans for some reason by starting early.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 22:19:48 No.57480882 Report

Quoted By:

>>57468411
I don't disagree, but you definitely can't use it as proof for anything numberwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 22:23:26 No.57481078 Report

Quoted By: >>57481807

>>57479890
does it matter though? the total is still way lower.
youÄd also have to check if you are comparing EU gachikois vs mutts who just toss kiara a superchat because she's in hololive and spend more on their own oshi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 22:28:06 No.57481299 Report

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EU can't watch chuubas because chuubas are haram. There's literally no point in streaming EU hours unless you're a fleshtuber (which is halal).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 22:33:45 No.57481607 Report

Quoted By:

europoors really try to gaslight us every time this is brought up despite getting exposed over and over

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 22:36:54 No.57481807 Report

Quoted By:

>>57481078
If only the total amount matters, clearly the best business move is to go back to China then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 23:28:45 No.57484707 Report

Quoted By:

pick one, wishy-washy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 23:30:11 No.57484794 Report

Quoted By:

>>57466443
>Botan zatsu
Based. Know what I'm watching tonight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 23:32:50 No.57484943 Report

Quoted By: >>57486534

EUs should just give up and take the 2views pill, bigger basket to pull EU hours chuubas from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 23:48:06 No.57485820 Report

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I wish Europe had South America below it rather than fucking Africa. Then streaming in its prime time would bring good numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 23:52:40 No.57486090 Report

Quoted By: >>57486534

Hololive has given up on EU primetime, even Kiara starts too early. It's Niji and Twitch vtubers who get the views and money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 Aug 2023 23:59:09 No.57486534 Report

Quoted By: >>57486881 >>57488928

>>57484943
>>57486090
If Hololive doesn't hire euros for EN4 they're legit retards. EU market is almost untouched, hiring europeans would bring in new fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 00:03:46 No.57486881 Report

Quoted By:

>>57486534
lol do you guys even have decent japanese restaurant there in euroland? kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 00:11:12 No.57487399 Report

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>SEA bros thinks its about EU
>When its really 14 hours or so viable hours for NA streamers and hololive occupy 2 or 3 hours

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 00:16:55 No.57487816 Report

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does membership streams don't appear if you are not a member? that doesn't make sense, how come i can't see bijous stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 00:23:39 No.57488281 Report

Quoted By:

>>57466443
Well at least gura not stream today

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 00:29:50 No.57488702 Report

Quoted By: >>57488763 >>57490527

>>57466969
>Hire Europoor
>shit viewers because they don't like anime or vtubing
>shit revenue because they are greedy as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 00:30:39 No.57488763 Report

Quoted By:

>>57488702
>brown wakes up and starts seething at the streams he missed in EU hours

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 00:32:45 No.57488928 Report

Quoted By: >>57489145

>>57486534
Kiara numbers bad = No new EU talents

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 00:36:09 No.57489145 Report

Quoted By: >>57490640

>>57488928
This is retarded. It's not guaranteed that every single EU viewer will like Kiara. We need some variety. When we get that, we can talk about numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 00:39:58 No.57489412 Report

Quoted By:

>>57469937
FUTchamp vtuber when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 00:56:55 No.57490527 Report

Quoted By: >>57490868 >>57492543

>>57488702
Doesn't VAT also play into it? I've heard VAT is taken out of EU donations before they even reach Youtube. Which is super fucked if true since it means the talent is effectively getting taxed twice if they don't live in Europe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 00:58:50 No.57490640 Report

Quoted By: >>57492230 >>57492867 >>57492888 >>57492949

>>57489145
this is just how it is. you can whine all you want, but until you start watching what you have you won't get more. every time holo puts something in an eu timeslot, you people never show up. what do you really expect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 01:01:41 No.57490868 Report

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>>57490527
The EU is actually fucking retarded. Tax me once shame on you, tax me twice, shame on me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 01:02:31 No.57490942 Report

Quoted By:

>>57466969
And that's a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 01:16:25 No.57492230 Report

Quoted By:

>>57490640
>thinks putting random streams every other month in a different timeslot will get the same reach as their usual stream time
you're retarded. it would be the exact same if kiara streamed at NA time. it's about building an audience, not the time itself.

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Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 01:20:07 No.57492543 Report

Quoted By: >>57492888 >>57497101

>>57490527
Big announcement stream done during EU primetime got her the most viewers this week. Your argument?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 01:23:41 No.57492867 Report

Quoted By: >>57497101

>>57490640
>FUWAMOCO gets more viewers in EU hours than NA
owarida

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 01:24:01 No.57492888 Report

Quoted By:

>>57492543 (me)
meant for >>57490640

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 01:24:38 No.57492949 Report

Quoted By: >>57493152

>>57490640
People don't even notice when random EU steam happen, people rely on schedules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 01:26:38 No.57493152 Report

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>>57492949 (me)
streams*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 01:37:55 No.57494132 Report

Quoted By: >>57494687 >>57495637

>Bad numbers from EU
>Bad first impressions of EU women (Veibae and Kiara)

Why would Mr.Jap hire a Eurowhore?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 01:43:34 No.57494687 Report

Quoted By:

>>57494132
There are many cute EU chuubas around

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 01:53:35 No.57495637 Report

Quoted By:

>>57494132
Who cares about european girls, there are 24 hours in a day and people work for 8 of those. 2 hours for travel and eating and that's 14 hours suitable for NA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 01:57:22 No.57495956 Report

Quoted By: >>57500132

The reason why EU is cursed because there is no overlap whatsoever
Distance between US and East Asia (+SEA) is literally day and night (10-14 hours), and EU time is so awkward in comparison.
Not to mention weeb culture is not as strong there compared to US and Asia, so there are less interest on VTubers instead of flesh streamers.
Individually, people there would donate more, but there are less individual overall, both watching and giving money, which is bad for Youtube metrics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 02:10:05 No.57497101 Report

Quoted By:

>>57492867
fwmc morning? i'm fine with that, i watch it too, but if it were much later in the day i couldn't.
>>57492543
gj, keep it up!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 02:25:02 No.57498491 Report

Quoted By:

>>57473181
PT is one of the worst timezones for targetting JP unless you can tolerate a fucked sleep schedule.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 02:34:35 No.57499464 Report

Quoted By:

>>57473181
The africans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Sep 2023 02:42:07 No.57500132 Report

Quoted By:

>>57495956
still want my eu loli wife

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