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Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:05:28 No.57814994 View View Reply Original Report

What can a 2view vtuber realistically do to get far?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:06:38 No.57815035 Report

Quoted By: >>57815346 >>57815582 >>57823847

>>57814994
make good content and pr

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:09:04 No.57815095 Report

Quoted By: >>57815582

Get lucky. There is no other way. Hard work will give you more chances to get lucky but networking, chasing trends and pure luck are the only way to ensure any modicum of success. Any of the blue Dorito girls have been obscure 2 views who just caught a major break. Most of them aren't exceptionally talented compared to the industry standard they just happened to be at the right place at the right time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:11:05 No.57815155 Report

Quoted By: >>57815582

>>57814994
standing out, create a niche, hardwork + networking or pure luck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:13:53 No.57815232 Report

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>>57814994
Several 2views were able to make it. After all they all had to start from something. The question is could you handle the grind? Because 5 year grind is soul crushing for some but someone did it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:14:33 No.57815261 Report

Quoted By: >>57815582

focus on unique content but still fun to watch. turn off viewcount so you can pretend you are entertaining a huge crowd rather than a small gathering. make sure your mic doesnt peak. work on improv instead of fake laughs or awkward "what do you meaaaan" to end tangents. keep a fun but not overly serious kayfabe. the fun part of watching chuubas is i get to pretend le anime exists irl. if you dont have any kayfabe, you might as well be a shitty persona youtuber. with your kayfabe, you can make your personal stories more entertaining to listen to. have a simple/easy to remember design so you can do fun stuff with it like find assets of outfits to overlay. for example: maid cafe stream? you can find a maid outfit png and easily overlay it. and set long term goals so it doesnt feel like a waste of time watching you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:15:05 No.57815273 Report

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>>57814994
To be honest the only consistently true answers are to network well and get lucky. I mean, it's true that you should work hard and be talented, but not everyone who does those things succeed. Every content creator that gets big had some luck involved or knew the right people.

Growth simply isn't linear where you get results equal to your effort. A lot of hololive for example was dead in the waters for years until their big break.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:16:32 No.57815315 Report

Quoted By: >>57815582 >>57819156 >>57820562

>>57814994
good content? i know it is a weird concept for holofags

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Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:17:07 No.57815332 Report

Quoted By: >>57817339 >>57819293

>>57814994
do something that stands out /here/, get 50 viewers, use those viewers to attract normalfags and leech off of streamers who are bigger than you, drop /here/, completely ignore streamers who are smaller than you.
apply to corpos, take the first one that can get you into 3-4view territory, constantly apply to hololive while doing this. drop your small corpo the moment hololive accepts you or you blow up enough to ditch them and become a 4-5 view indie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:17:31 No.57815346 Report

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>>57815035
>>57814994
and a Blue Dorito badge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:25:30 No.57815582 Report

Quoted By: >>57816518 >>57817374

>>57815035
>>57815155
>>57815315
meritocracy is a lie

>>57815095
In fact I've been doing a lot of research about that, after all Hololive is popular just by luck, I think im very lucky and Im very focused on form a community (Although I don't plan to join agencies, even some like idol I can't trust) my plan rn is making covers, as easy like that because my pc sucks.

>>57815261
Very detailed, tysm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:28:39 No.57815681 Report

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Prostitution.

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Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:43:58 No.57816104 Report

Quoted By: >>57817339

>>57814994
>network with other 2views and low 3views
>create a bunch of content proving you're funny and talented
>get discovered by someone big and impress them
>network with people in their friend group and make yourself known
If you're actually interesting and talented even established 4view chuubas will invite you to collab with or make stuff for them once they discover you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXfDtgbDMGs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:57:38 No.57816496 Report

Quoted By: >>57817179

>>57814994
Being loud and leeching off Hololive seems to work for most

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:58:25 No.57816518 Report

Quoted By: >>57817339

>>57815582
>meritocracy is a lie
correct. Nepotism is a thing, but you still need to be a appealing content creator to be successful within the entertainment industry. Together with good PR (e.g. blue dorito) for continued growth. So a combination of all three or even more factors CAN result in a 2view growing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 07:59:40 No.57816558 Report

Quoted By: >>57817339

>>57814994
have sex with me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 08:02:27 No.57816640 Report

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be half as sweet as iroha
or be half as sexy as koyo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 08:22:11 No.57817179 Report

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>>57816496
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 08:27:55 No.57817339 Report

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>>57815332
>>57816518
good recommendations too, thanks and appreciated

>>57816104
Actually a lot of streamers who have a lot of followers are talking with me, of course I dont try to force collabs or shit like that but im glad about their interest.

>>57816558
you were wrong, cucking is going to bankrupt me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 08:29:18 No.57817374 Report

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>>57815582
Meritocracy in the entertainment industry isn't a lie but it's a partial truth.
If you're trash no connections and no amount of money can save you. People with rich parents have tried to buy their kid into stardom and the best they can achieve is lolcow status (ie Rebecca Black).
It's meritocracy to get out of 1view status. It's partial meritocracy to get out of 2view status. It's mostly luck or nepotism to get out of 3view status.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 08:57:23 No.57818129 Report

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>>57814994
Give people a reason to watch them. Give people a reason to come back and watch them again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:13:43 No.57818590 Report

Quoted By: >>57818778 >>57819351

To clarify in general im trying to make good content (and stay in indie is the best way to at my pov, Hololive = no stream, Vshojo = zzzz, small corpo = grooming). I dont want to be a celebrity just for a red sc and a rain of comments that I can't even read, In general, I wanted to get into the world of entertainment because of how (stupid) but nice it sounds to be able to brighten someone's day, even if I consume vtubers and I'm glad to see how they have fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:18:48 No.57818716 Report

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>>57814994
Acting crazy and stream sniping. Maybe do like, adderall caffeine and modafinil and start freestyling

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:20:59 No.57818778 Report

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>>57818590
You say that now but you will eventually need to dream higher, either to pay the bills or for self validation.
You fail to plan, you plan to fail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:22:49 No.57818822 Report

Quoted By: >>57818965 >>57821066

Buy an ad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:28:27 No.57818965 Report

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>>57818822
This won't work, you'll waste your money

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:29:42 No.57818999 Report

Quoted By: >>57819039

>>57814994
Revolutionize or setting new streaming standard with advanced technology. If you can't do that, tough luck, try to join a corpo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:31:16 No.57819039 Report

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>>57818999
What is that these days, onahole syncing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:35:58 No.57819156 Report

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>>57815315
rent free

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:41:52 No.57819293 Report

Quoted By: >>57819586 >>57831014

>>57815332
>apply to small corpo
>ditch them once hololive accepts you
Is that an actual thing some vtubers did? That feels like a grift.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:44:28 No.57819351 Report

Quoted By: >>57819676

>>57818590
>small corpo = grooming
How is it different from being groomed as indie, or did you read too much /kuro/ shitpost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:46:13 No.57819391 Report

Quoted By: >>57819544

>>57814994
money and use that money to leech bigger content creator. that's the only way

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:52:04 No.57819544 Report

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>>57819391
Are there girls that do pay to play

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:53:31 No.57819586 Report

Quoted By: >>57819683

>>57819293
Nothing wrong with grifting, it's all about the hustle and if you think grifting is bad then this ain't for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:56:25 No.57819676 Report

Quoted By: >>57820295

>>57819351
How I can get groomed as an indie, and no, I were part from a groomer agency, so at least you're staff from another "good" agency and have proof aren't shit I won't believe you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 09:56:41 No.57819683 Report

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>>57819586
If you ain't sacrificing to mammon baby what is you doin

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 10:17:24 No.57820295 Report

Quoted By: >>57820473

>>57819676
As an indie you have to look out for oilbarons, nice and funny guys instead of CEO and manager?
And who in their right mind would want a job that is basically wrangling group of unstable woman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 10:22:37 No.57820473 Report

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>>57820295
Pedophiles.

That's why agencies doesn't work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 10:26:11 No.57820562 Report

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>>57815315
You will never be white or a woman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 10:31:39 No.57820714 Report

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Ask Bijou. She went from literal who to getting HoloEN in 2 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 10:32:14 No.57820732 Report

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>>57814994
Buying bots

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 10:35:05 No.57820819 Report

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>>57814994
i shit you not, a very good mic or at least a knowhow to make your voice not be a constant filter. good model, content, branding, schedule, personality, etc, is mandatory, a semi professional and decent sound setup is absolute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 10:40:54 No.57820977 Report

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>>57814994
repeatedly do novel and interesting things that stand completely on their own merits, that large numbers of people would be interested in and will volunteer to watch based on a very short description or thumbnail, completely independently of anything to do with the identity or characteristics of the vtuber that's doing them

You need to give people a reason to give a shit about you - only once you've built up an audience can you coast and do shit that people don't give a shit about but will watch just because you're you and they like you. But even then, if you want to incline you're going to have to do interesting things again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 10:44:02 No.57821066 Report

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>>57818822
Absolutely do NOT do this. I dunno, just my opinion, but every single vtuber ad I've seen has made me say "well I'm not watching that." And I'm one of the few sane people on this board. Just imagine what the psychopaths think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 10:49:26 No.57821249 Report

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I would usually tell you to fuck off to /asp/ but that thread is constantly derailed and useless these days. Even now there's a predebut writing essays about how he's better than all of them. At least it's fun to read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 10:49:46 No.57821259 Report

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>>57814994
Audition for hololive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 11:08:38 No.57821839 Report

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>>57814994
luck and unmatched charisma and creativity. There already are way too many vtubers. How are you gonna stand out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 12:04:24 No.57823847 Report

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>>57815035
sound advice

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 12:32:38 No.57824793 Report

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>>57814994
yes, post tits

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 13:43:12 No.57827323 Report

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>>57814994
hard work

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 13:49:30 No.57827613 Report

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>>57814994
don't use bgm
i keep searching but i can't find a single chuuba that doesn't constantly have some annoying shit music in the background

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 13:53:33 No.57827778 Report

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>>57814994
Assuming your content is good - Networking is probably the only thing you can do to get exposure.
Find a high-3 or low-4 view with similar tastes, try to become friends and orbit them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 13:55:18 No.57827866 Report

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its all meritocracy. just because the vast majority of people who've made it have done it through sheer chance - doesn't make a willfull push impossible

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 14:13:55 No.57828707 Report

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>>57814994
Are you a female vtuber OP? if yes how about you collab with me? I am a male 4view vtuber and I can easily promote you to my viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 14:57:48 No.57830948 Report

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You missed the boat.
Get an absolutely sex model and flaunt it, or fade away.
Also your voice better not be shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Sep 2023 14:59:00 No.57831014 Report

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>>57819293
It's not like its just Holos who've had this happen, bunch of other vtubers jumped from one small corpo to better ones. iirc Rosemi in particular was like fairly new to her previous corpo that were investing quite a bit on her before she just dumped it when she got into NijiEN.

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