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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:26:41 No.59704281 View View Reply Original Report

Why the fuck would you leave the biggest, most popular vtuber company on the planet for some shady poaching corpo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:28:19 No.59704312 Report

Quoted By: >>59711272

literally who? if that's a dude then why should i or anyone with a heart, eyes, ears, and an IQ above room temperature care?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:28:53 No.59704332 Report

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I assume you mistake pic with kson one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:29:43 No.59704354 Report

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>>59704281
but anon, he left niji not holo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:29:51 No.59704358 Report

Quoted By: >>59704385 >>59704556 >>59705663

>>59704281
Nijisanji has one of the worst contracts in the industry. Whatever agreement he has now is miles better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:30:57 No.59704385 Report

Quoted By: >>59705971

>>59704358
the only bad thing is the merch, the rest is the same as the rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:32:51 No.59704429 Report

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>>59704281
The list of things he wants to do and is already doing should be enough to explain that to you.
His debut merch mogs Nijisanji's and they already have his 3D model nearly completed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:36:51 No.59704556 Report

Quoted By: >>59704602

>>59704358
Proof?
Oh, right, besides a few /vt/ shitposts, NONE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:37:20 No.59704568 Report

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>>59704281
>Why the fuck would you leave the biggest, most popular vtuber company on the planet for some shady poaching corpo?
because he didn't leave the "biggest bestast chuba corpo on the planet"
he left the retarded dying cancerous work culture side branch of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:38:30 No.59704594 Report

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>>59704281
Because he wanted to be a reaction andy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:38:50 No.59704602 Report

Quoted By: >>59706018 >>59711630

>>59704556
The proof is that he left one and joined the other. Why else would he do that if it wasn't financially advantageous?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:39:47 No.59704624 Report

Quoted By: >>59705087

He got 5k subs on Twitch after 1 stream and gets to keep all that money unlike when he was working for Niji. I think he'll be fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:47:19 No.59704812 Report

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Tax is hard and no one want to help him with his 350k debt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:48:16 No.59704836 Report

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If he wasn't getting a better contract he'd have become an indie

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:57:44 No.59705066 Report

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well he can abal sex with kson,nazuna and henya soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 08:58:13 No.59705087 Report

Quoted By: >>59705429 >>59707943

>>59704624
Don't forget twitch takes 50% of donations

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:09:00 No.59705429 Report

Quoted By: >>59706765 >>59706809

>>59705087
Only for subs. Still that's better than Youtube + Nijisanji cut.
From what I've heard ad revenue is a lot better on Twitch compared to YouTube.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:12:38 No.59705540 Report

Quoted By: >>59714946

>>59704281
>most popular vtuber company on the planet
>niji
I don't know about that one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:17:18 No.59705663 Report

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>>59704358
Seems like you've actually seen Nijisanji's contracts before if you're making that judgement. Care to share?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:18:35 No.59705712 Report

Quoted By: >>59705816

>>59704281
KUROsanji...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:20:50 No.59705759 Report

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>>59704281
Biggest yes, most popular I think genuinely no, but by no measure is it the best to work for. Nijisanji management are both predatory and cheapskates looking for every reason to retain every dollar of income and only care about you if you hit it big. Yeah sure they are cool and chill and zero pressure - if you are a flop. That's not bevause they are nice, it's because they stopped caring about you and don't deem you worth the effort coaching and catering to. If you hit it big they work you to the bone and alway to are pressuring you on how to grow your channel and make more money. And all the thanks you get for making Riku more money is your plaque being kept to pimp Anycolor corporate, your events being postponed and canceled last minute and being punished for arbitrary offenses to managers' egos if you tell them things are not realistic or cannot be done.

Even so, while I don't blame him one bit for leaving I think it was kind of naive if not scummy of him to go to vshojo. They are not built for the kinds of fans he has, it makes little sense really and if anything is setting things up for them to get all menhera over him again if he gets close to vshojo girls. He'd have done just fine as an indie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:21:45 No.59705786 Report

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>>59704281
>leave the biggest, most popular vtuber company
he didn't
>>59704281
>for some shady poaching corpo?
maybe there he can keep more then 2% of the money he earns, but that's just a guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:22:42 No.59705808 Report

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>>59704281
Nobody wants to deal with chinese fujos

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:22:56 No.59705816 Report

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>>59705712
Imagine if he keeps making jokes like 'I may be black, but not as black as some companies out there'

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:25:23 No.59705879 Report

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He broke away from The Clique

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:26:52 No.59705916 Report

Quoted By:

>>59704281
He has standards that Nijisanji clearly didn't fulfill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:28:46 No.59705958 Report

Quoted By:

>>59704281
menhera, puriz andaztando

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:29:14 No.59705971 Report

Quoted By: >>59706008 >>59706246

>>59704385
He gets 100% of donos / subs
50% of merch.
owns his IP
no permission autism
can make the content he wants

it's really not the same. It's a big fucking upgrade assuming he can pull the same numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:30:30 No.59706008 Report

Quoted By: >>59706059

>>59705971
>owns his IP
can we stop with this misinformation? Rushia took a dump on your statement, 5ch laughed at you and you still spread this garbage
it makes your entire post look illegitimate and you arent helping. are you a anti falseflagging?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:30:58 No.59706018 Report

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>>59704602
To become the 1st male in females branch. So he can have harem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:32:49 No.59706059 Report

Quoted By: >>59706126

>>59706008
What in the world are you talking about? Rushia was Hololive and Hololive doesn't let you keep your IP.
But she owns Nazuna in Vshojo just like Veibae, Silver and Nyanners owned their IP and could just fuck off when they wanted to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:34:01 No.59706090 Report

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so it is a anti
no more (You)s for your dumb shit posts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:35:12 No.59706126 Report

Quoted By: >>59706199 >>59706251 >>59708453 >>59712705

>>59706059
Veibae, Silver and Nyanners always had the rights to their IP. Chuubas who reincarnate into a new Vshojo identity do not have that privilege, as per Nazuna.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:37:44 No.59706199 Report

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>>59706126
They do have that privilege, dumb rrat peddler.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:39:18 No.59706246 Report

Quoted By: >>59706281

>>59705971
NTA but
>He gets 100% of donos / subs
wrong
>50% of merch.
true
>owns his IP
wrong
>no permission autism
true
>can make the content he wants
technically wrong since there are still twitch TOS so he couldn't murder somebody IRL on stream for example but i get what you mean, so mostly true
>it's really not the same. It's a big fucking upgrade assuming he can pull the same numbers.
true

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:39:31 No.59706251 Report

Quoted By:

>>59706126
Henya confirmed that she has all the rights to her own ip

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:40:45 No.59706281 Report

Quoted By:

>>59706246
>He gets 100% of donos / subs
After the twitch cut, of course. Vshojo doesn't take anything from that, unlike Niji.

>owns his IP
Yes, he does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:40:54 No.59706286 Report

Quoted By:

>>59704281
because a japanese company wouldn't help with his(a contractor btw) taxes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:45:32 No.59706408 Report

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There's no good place for male vtubers other than an agency like vshojo or being indie. Full corpo vtubing as a male seems like such a timesink into a whole lot of nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:55:37 No.59706712 Report

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>>59704281
you dont get it anon they helped him with his taxes!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:56:59 No.59706765 Report

Quoted By: >>59706809

>>59705429
>From what I've heard ad revenue is a lot better on Twitch compared to YouTube
you are a complete idiot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 09:58:12 No.59706809 Report

Quoted By: >>59706945 >>59707568

>>59705429
sorry forgot the pic>>59706765

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 10:02:20 No.59706945 Report

Quoted By: >>59708406

>>59706809
nta but that's rather interesting if real
you have a source for that? otherwise i sadly can't take it for anything more then just some random shit you just threw together in MSPaint

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 10:25:12 No.59707568 Report

Quoted By: >>59711618

>>59706809
>not normalized for views
>no exclusivity mentioned
0 views post stream? how?
I could go on but that graph seems to intentionally crafted to shill youtube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 10:37:13 No.59707943 Report

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>>59705087
If he retains 350 natural subs (not gifted) then in three months he'll be Partner Plus and get 70%

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 10:43:11 No.59708147 Report

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>>59704281
He hated the fanbase he and his colleagues cultivated, as well as his colleagues fucking up which affected him by proximity. Both of which caused him to go on frequent menhera episodes. And now, just like the kpop sisters who fucked off from NijiEN to go and ruin something else, he left NijiEN to go an ruin Vshojo even more than it already is.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 10:50:14 No.59708392 Report

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graduate on AUGUST 27
Join Vshojo on JULY 30

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 10:50:44 No.59708406 Report

Quoted By: >>59708920 >>59715045

>>59706945
i vaguely remember it being an extremely dishonest comparison, ads on twitch are opt in but the reason why so many streamers run them are because of ad contracts being very lucrative depending on the time of year

also twitch ads will never beat the google advertising machine in a raw numbers game due to google farming so much data for optimising personalised ads while twitch has no personalised advertising system, they just have bulk inventories for ads for each county that run until the inventories are depleted so you aren't getting ads on twitch for finding a wife in the Philippines like you would on youtube after watching a holoID stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 10:52:24 No.59708453 Report

Quoted By:

>>59706126
You are incorrect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 11:09:58 No.59708920 Report

Quoted By:

>>59708406
The guy who posted this comparison has 4 streams with 10k+ views with the highest one at 24k (Nov '22) on his YT channel. The last time he streamed close to 90h on Twitch in a 30-day period was in March '23 with 75 total hours, with 25 avg CCV (2k total watch hours). He is not an affiliate on twitch, but he does have memberships enabled on youtube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 11:13:42 No.59709031 Report

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>>59704281
Vshojo is the vtuber retirement home. Got tired of the limelight? Go to vshojo and do react content, stream as little as you want, and still make bank because this industry is a joke to make money in once you reach the level people in Vshojo are. They're providing a valuable service much as they'd never want to admit it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:23:50 No.59711084 Report

Quoted By:

>>59704281
Freedom is more important than you think

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:26:52 No.59711198 Report

Quoted By:

>>59704281
I hope Enna joins next

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:28:55 No.59711272 Report

Quoted By:

>>59704312
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:33:02 No.59711449 Report

Quoted By:

>Already making garbage reaction content
That's why he left, for the same reason others run to twitch, to get easy money doing lazy content

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:35:41 No.59711540 Report

Quoted By: >>59711609

>>59704281
niji wouldn't help him when he fucked up and ended up owing 350k to the government so he went crying around the vtuber community until a charity case took him in. This is about niji being a black company and mysta being a financial retard.
I'd be surprised him if going around begging for help with every indie and corpo he could get his hands on didn't blacklist him from a bunch of people's friends groups.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:35:55 No.59711552 Report

Quoted By: >>59711661

How do hololive fans stomach making threads like these?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:37:29 No.59711609 Report

Quoted By: >>59711667 >>59712470

>>59711540
>niji wouldn't help him when he fucked up and ended up owing 350k to the government so he went crying around the vtuber community until a charity case took him in.
Paying income tax is fucking up how? do you retarded NEETs even know what income tax is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:37:45 No.59711618 Report

Quoted By: >>59711669

>>59707568
>0 views post stream? how?
Twitch considers the VOD and the stream different things, so when the VOD is published, it starts as zero.
Also, the unskippable ads on Youtube is only halfway true, on phone you just refresh and it goes away, on desktop refresh until you get one that lets you skip it in 5, or keep refreshing until it's gone, while on twtich refreshing just resets the ad timer.
t. no subs/membership on either

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:38:12 No.59711630 Report

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>>59704602
>financial retard looking for more people to leech off of
you're never supposed to invite in the people who drive themselves into crippling financial situations when they come begging to you for help. They're going to suck you dry and fuck you over. I hope gunrun gives this guy a handler to keep tabs on his spending

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:39:05 No.59711661 Report

Quoted By: >>59711842

>>59711552
It's not holofans, it's phasefags

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:39:15 No.59711667 Report

Quoted By:

>>59711609
everyone knows what income tax is. that's why they pay it. Except this guy apparently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:39:19 No.59711669 Report

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>>59711618
>it starts as zero.
Yeah but it doesn't stay as zero so the comparison is weird.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:39:53 No.59711696 Report

Quoted By: >>59711947

3 people left this year, excluding the tons of IDs leaving so there's clearly some issues

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:43:51 No.59711842 Report

Quoted By: >>59712009 >>59712069 >>59714437

>>59711661
>It's not holofans, it's phasefags
I'm reading /#/ all weekend and they're responsible for all the shitposting. /#/ is a holofag den if you are trying to play coy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:47:17 No.59711947 Report

Quoted By: >>59711979 >>59711985

>>59711696
And all 3 just so happened to join Mythic, AFTER one of them was dating a Mythic founder, AFTER she had his brother look over her VShojo contract, so they could offer all 3 of them a better one.

Don't get me wrong, offering a competitor's talents a better deal is a good thing, but it doesn't exactly mean VShojo was doing something wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:48:17 No.59711979 Report

Quoted By:

>>59711947
...shit I'm stupid, I thought you were talking about 3 VShojos leaving, fuck (me)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:48:28 No.59711985 Report

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>>59711947
Anon, I'm talking about nijiEN, vshojo has no ID branch. I think their issues are more personal than managerial like nijien

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:49:20 No.59712009 Report

Quoted By:

>>59711842
>/#/ is a holofag den
It's a free-for-all repost den, slowchama.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:50:52 No.59712065 Report

Quoted By:

>>59704281
He's retarded, that's why

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:50:59 No.59712069 Report

Quoted By:

>>59711842
>I'm reading /#/ all weekend
Saddest thing I've read in a while here

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:54:41 No.59712193 Report

Quoted By: >>59712241

I don't know where you've been recently, but Vshojo's reputation is waaaay better than NijiEN these days.
Nothing is more degenerate than NijiEN which literally has mixed gender offcollabs, basically NTR streams in hotels and bedrooms and stuff. It's a bunch of shitty pog memes and twitch garbage, disgusting and degenerate content. Vox made millions posting literal pornography on youtube.

VShojo by comparison has its foibles but it's not even in the same tier of degeneracy as NijiEN has become

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 12:55:58 No.59712241 Report

Quoted By: >>59712727

>>59712193
ennaschizo even enna told you to quit being a cuck please seek help

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 13:01:45 No.59712470 Report

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>>59711609
>reading comprehension
He fucked up by not paying taxes retard, which is somehow Niji's fault for not teaching him how to do his taxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 13:08:02 No.59712705 Report

Quoted By:

>>59706126
stop talking about things you don't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 13:08:46 No.59712727 Report

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>>59712241
You crazy fuck

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Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 13:48:40 No.59714139 Report

Quoted By: >>59714196 >>59714204 >>59714288

Are Filipinos always this menhera?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 13:50:21 No.59714196 Report

Quoted By:

>>59714139
No, but fujoshis are, and he's not letting that shit happen again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 13:50:30 No.59714204 Report

Quoted By:

>>59714139
This is extremely sane of him though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 13:53:10 No.59714288 Report

Quoted By:

>>59714139
>anon apparently doesn't understand neither normal chat rules nor common courtesy
i'm not surprised, not even a little bit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 13:57:39 No.59714437 Report

Quoted By:

>>59711842
It’s always holofags on nearly every thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 14:04:29 No.59714700 Report

Quoted By:

>>59704281
>biggest
niji is bloated
>most popular
that's holo
>shady poaching corpo
far less shady than niji
they can poach from niji because the talents there are underserved by management in a myriad of ways.
I would honestly be surprised if the next graduation wasn't around the corner

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 14:10:47 No.59714946 Report

Quoted By:

>>59705540
>in bed with ccp
>popular in portugal
>used to be #1

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Oct 2023 14:12:55 No.59715045 Report

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>>59708406
They arent opt in anymore.

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